I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

Jack Bauer said:

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These people are sick.

Pro Hamas protesters demonstrate outside the memorial service for former First Lady Rosalynn Carter in Atlanta. These people need to go… pic.twitter.com/Hx7kIP88QT

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) November 28, 2023

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Time to just start shooting. These maggots need no air. You kill two or three of the outlandish, the rest will disappear. They don't give a **** about the muck mucks killing Jews.

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Jack Bauer said:

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These people are sick.

Pro Hamas protesters demonstrate outside the memorial service for former First Lady Rosalynn Carter in Atlanta. These people need to go… pic.twitter.com/Hx7kIP88QT

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) November 28, 2023

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Time to just start shooting. These maggots need no air.

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Amen Brother! The terrorists and their Gazan supporters need a one way ticket to meet Allah. Enough. Past time to transform Palestine into a parking lot.

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GrowlTowel said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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These people are sick.

Pro Hamas protesters demonstrate outside the memorial service for former First Lady Rosalynn Carter in Atlanta. These people need to go… pic.twitter.com/Hx7kIP88QT

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) November 28, 2023

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Time to just start shooting. These maggots need no air.

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Amen Brother! The terrorists and their Gazan supporters need a one way ticket to meet Allah. Enough. Past time to transform Palestine into a parking lot.

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Or a nice Marriott or Hilton.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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The only way to fixed social security with a band aid is to remove the cap on taxable income. Lower the tax rate by gradually using scale.

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How does that fix Social Security? It just further shifts the burden of benefit payment to the highest income earners.

Cobretti said:

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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A few of these women could use a year or two as the third harem wife of an Afghan goat herder for some perspective.

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Cobretti said:

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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Anyone surprised many of these Karens are wearing masks?

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no kidding.

It's really sad to see people still wearing masks in 2023.. but it is also helpful. Whenever I see someone with a mask these days, i just know that they are extremely low IQ. It helps me avoid idiots in my daily life.

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Wearing masks definitely screams I AM A MORON either one is a science denier or a virtual signaling fascist.

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Entitlement changes are coming to be sure. But the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are citizens who have spent a lifetime paying into programs that government mandated by law. So first fix everything else...

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The amount paid in, even accounting for a modest IRR, and the amount paid out for most Americans is an upside down mess. No one is contributing to their SS payout, they're paying for current benefits. And don't get me started on the Medicare math.

The thing that needs to be fixed is to stop relying on Uncle Sam for your retirement.

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I have never relied on Uncle Sam or tax deferred retirement accounts for my retirement. I would be perfectly willing to surrender my claim to all future social security benefits IF they stopped taxing me for them today. Think they will make that deal? Of course not. So don't try and steal what I have paid and continue to pay for while there is one red cent left in the budget for Ukraine, Israel, USAID, and a number of other projects that only benefit government-Americans.

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The people receiving benefits are the ones stealing from you, not other budget allocated items. In fact, they are completely independent tax types and line items as far as accounting. FICA tax collections were over $1 Trillion less than what was paid out for SS and Medicare. And do you understand that nearly 50% of the defense budget consists of active and veteran benefits and income security? Unlike the rest of the defense budget, those are mandatory outlays like SS and Medicare. That is what's bankrupting the country and threatening everyone's SS and Medicare benefits.

And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Entitlement changes are coming to be sure. But the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are citizens who have spent a lifetime paying into programs that government mandated by law. So first fix everything else...

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The amount paid in, even accounting for a modest IRR, and the amount paid out for most Americans is an upside down mess. No one is contributing to their SS payout, they're paying for current benefits. And don't get me started on the Medicare math.

The thing that needs to be fixed is to stop relying on Uncle Sam for your retirement.

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I have never relied on Uncle Sam or tax deferred retirement accounts for my retirement. I would be perfectly willing to surrender my claim to all future social security benefits IF they stopped taxing me for them today. Think they will make that deal? Of course not. So don't try and steal what I have paid and continue to pay for while there is one red cent left in the budget for Ukraine, Israel, USAID, and a number of other projects that only benefit government-Americans.

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And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Possible explanation:
1. He's a teenager
2. In prison
3. Dumb as a box of rocks
4. Lying

ATL Bear said:

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And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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I didn't say that I've never *used* tax deferred investments for retirement. I said I've never *relied* on them for retirement. I do have some of my retirement money in such vehicles. Anyone would be a fool to pass up employer contributions or the 100% immediate return a match represents.

However, it's invested with an eye on the fact that the tax deferral is *now* and that things I am holding for long term capital gains should be held outside such a structure lest I convert gains that are taxable at a long term capital gains rate into gains that are taxable at a progressive income tax rate subject to the bracket and RMD whims of .gov. Such a strategy has worked out very, very well for me. Too many advisors mindlessly recommend such plans without considering the specifics of how much you should put in them and how it should be held. Just as an example, I'd never buy munis, zeros, or precious metals inside a tax deferred account. Also don't automatically assume that your income will go down in retirement and you can avoid higher brackets. Yes, it can be "managed down", but that entails curtailing your standard of living and possibly allocating your investments in a suboptimal way to do it. If you're strictly looking at optimizing how your portfolio is allocated and you've saved and invested wisely over the course of your career it may go up. Possibly substantially.

This doesn't even begin to account for what the Fed and .gov can do to such accounts. Treasury auctions starting to look like a mangy dog? Need to stimulate demand? Ok patriots! 30% of your tax deferred accounts must be held in treasuries. If things get too reich-like around here, just take your brokerage accounts and go where you're treated best.

As for what is bankrupting the country, everything is. My point remains: the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are its taxpaying citizens. Not foreign countries. Not the schemes of current politicians. Not the budgets of its countless bureaucracies. So medicare and social security are the last things to get cut. Veterans health care should be the last thing in the defense budget to get cut. Cut it all the way down to border security and the maintenance of our nukes if you have to. As for who is stealing from me, Zelensky's wife is doing a far more effective job than the single American mother down the street or her neighbor who is someone's grandmother.

"...I care about doing good... and all I see is people who care more about looking good while doing evil."
- Elon Musk

ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Entitlement changes are coming to be sure. But the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are citizens who have spent a lifetime paying into programs that government mandated by law. So first fix everything else...

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The amount paid in, even accounting for a modest IRR, and the amount paid out for most Americans is an upside down mess. No one is contributing to their SS payout, they're paying for current benefits. And don't get me started on the Medicare math.

The thing that needs to be fixed is to stop relying on Uncle Sam for your retirement.

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I have never relied on Uncle Sam or tax deferred retirement accounts for my retirement. I would be perfectly willing to surrender my claim to all future social security benefits IF they stopped taxing me for them today. Think they will make that deal? Of course not. So don't try and steal what I have paid and continue to pay for while there is one red cent left in the budget for Ukraine, Israel, USAID, and a number of other projects that only benefit government-Americans.

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The people receiving benefits are the ones stealing from you, not other budget allocated items. In fact, they are completely independent tax types and line items as far as accounting. FICA tax collections were over $1 Trillion less than what was paid out for SS and Medicare. And do you understand that nearly 50% of the defense budget consists of active and veteran benefits and income security? Unlike the rest of the defense budget, those are mandatory outlays like SS and Medicare. That is what's bankrupting the country and threatening everyone's SS and Medicare benefits.

And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Everyone has used the Government for their benefit. Be it clean water, utilities, tax code, zoning, subsidies, public school, safe food, safe travel. It is the benefit of being a US citizen. There is no way to live in a nation and not take Government benefit

Most if the items on your list are things many people would like to have other options but don't. They use government services because they have no choice. But every single government service could be done cheaper and more efficiently by other means.

The government is not a creative force, it is the opposite. It destroys or, at the very least, leeches off of the productive parts of society. That's one of the evils if socialism.

FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Entitlement changes are coming to be sure. But the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are citizens who have spent a lifetime paying into programs that government mandated by law. So first fix everything else...

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The amount paid in, even accounting for a modest IRR, and the amount paid out for most Americans is an upside down mess. No one is contributing to their SS payout, they're paying for current benefits. And don't get me started on the Medicare math.

The thing that needs to be fixed is to stop relying on Uncle Sam for your retirement.

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I have never relied on Uncle Sam or tax deferred retirement accounts for my retirement. I would be perfectly willing to surrender my claim to all future social security benefits IF they stopped taxing me for them today. Think they will make that deal? Of course not. So don't try and steal what I have paid and continue to pay for while there is one red cent left in the budget for Ukraine, Israel, USAID, and a number of other projects that only benefit government-Americans.

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The people receiving benefits are the ones stealing from you, not other budget allocated items. In fact, they are completely independent tax types and line items as far as accounting. FICA tax collections were over $1 Trillion less than what was paid out for SS and Medicare. And do you understand that nearly 50% of the defense budget consists of active and veteran benefits and income security? Unlike the rest of the defense budget, those are mandatory outlays like SS and Medicare. That is what's bankrupting the country and threatening everyone's SS and Medicare benefits.

And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Everyone has used the Government for their benefit. Be it clean water, utilities, tax code, zoning, subsidies, public school, safe food, safe travel. It is the benefit of being a US citizen. There is no way to live in a nation and not take Government benefit

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Ever use the force of government to get a direct transfer of wealth put in your pocket for doing precious little in return?

That is the entitlement system in a nutshell.

She teaches a class lmao https://t.co/9Qb8rBVv9r

— Second City Bureaucrat (@CityBureaucrat) November 30, 2023

Redbrickbear said:

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She teaches a class lmao https://t.co/9Qb8rBVv9r

— Second City Bureaucrat (@CityBureaucrat) November 30, 2023

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When the left turns on itself....

ATL Bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Realitybites said:

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Entitlement changes are coming to be sure. But the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are citizens who have spent a lifetime paying into programs that government mandated by law. So first fix everything else...

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The amount paid in, even accounting for a modest IRR, and the amount paid out for most Americans is an upside down mess. No one is contributing to their SS payout, they're paying for current benefits. And don't get me started on the Medicare math.

The thing that needs to be fixed is to stop relying on Uncle Sam for your retirement.

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I have never relied on Uncle Sam or tax deferred retirement accounts for my retirement. I would be perfectly willing to surrender my claim to all future social security benefits IF they stopped taxing me for them today. Think they will make that deal? Of course not. So don't try and steal what I have paid and continue to pay for while there is one red cent left in the budget for Ukraine, Israel, USAID, and a number of other projects that only benefit government-Americans.

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The people receiving benefits are the ones stealing from you, not other budget allocated items. In fact, they are completely independent tax types and line items as far as accounting. FICA tax collections were over $1 Trillion less than what was paid out for SS and Medicare. And do you understand that nearly 50% of the defense budget consists of active and veteran benefits and income security? Unlike the rest of the defense budget, those are mandatory outlays like SS and Medicare. That is what's bankrupting the country and threatening everyone's SS and Medicare benefits.

And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Everyone has used the Government for their benefit. Be it clean water, utilities, tax code, zoning, subsidies, public school, safe food, safe travel. It is the benefit of being a US citizen. There is no way to live in a nation and not take Government benefit

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I don't have issue with government services per se. I have an issue with an out of whack scheme to pay for, or better yet not pay for them. Clean water isn't free, nor are utilities or the property within a zone, if you catch my drift. And I would agree with historian's point as to what
and whom are the best vehicles for delivery. Certain social services and military are obvious ones for government. The rest becomes an interesting thought exercise.

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Nice summary of the proper roles of government. And if the government is going to provide utilities, it should be at the local level with the feds having zero input. It's none of their business, quite literally.

As for the rest, it is generally a truism that anything they government touches it destroys, or at least seriously damages. An honest examination of its legacy proves it: education, health care, energy, transportation, etc ad nauseum.

Realitybites said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And if you're actually telling the truth that you've never used tax deferred investments for retirement, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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I didn't say that I've never *used* tax deferred investments for retirement. I said I've never *relied* on them for retirement. I do have some of my retirement money in such vehicles. Anyone would be a fool to pass up employer contributions or the 100% immediate return a match represents.

However, it's invested with an eye on the fact that the tax deferral is *now* and that things I am holding for long term capital gains should be held outside such a structure lest I convert gains that are taxable at a long term capital gains rate into gains that are taxable at a progressive income tax rate subject to the bracket and RMD whims of .gov. Such a strategy has worked out very, very well for me. Too many advisors mindlessly recommend such plans without considering the specifics of how much you should put in them and how it should be held. Just as an example, I'd never buy munis, zeros, or precious metals inside a tax deferred account. Also don't automatically assume that your income will go down in retirement and you can avoid higher brackets. Yes, it can be "managed down", but that entails curtailing your standard of living and possibly allocating your investments in a suboptimal way to do it. If you're strictly looking at optimizing how your portfolio is allocated and you've saved and invested wisely over the course of your career it may go up. Possibly substantially.

This doesn't even begin to account for what the Fed and .gov can do to such accounts. Treasury auctions starting to look like a mangy dog? Need to stimulate demand? Ok patriots! 30% of your tax deferred accounts must be held in treasuries. If things get too reich-like around here, just take your brokerage accounts and go where you're treated best.

As for what is bankrupting the country, everything is. My point remains: the last group of people a legitimate government should default against are its taxpaying citizens. Not foreign countries. Not the schemes of current politicians. Not the budgets of its countless bureaucracies. So medicare and social security are the last things to get cut. Veterans health care should be the last thing in the defense budget to get cut. Cut it all the way down to border security and the maintenance of our nukes if you have to. As for who is stealing from me, Zelensky's wife is doing a far more effective job than the single American mother down the street or her neighbor who is someone's grandmother.

"...I care about doing good... and all I see is people who care more about looking good while doing evil."
- Elon Musk

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You and I don't agree on a lot of things, but I firmly practice the same stance.

Tax-deferred plans are great when you have an employer match, so long as you use up to the match limits.

We practice with the planning guidelines of "Freedom, Flexibility, and Control". Choosing different investment mechanisms that offer you the most freedom of choice and cash flow, flexibility in entering and exit, and control of your cash as you go along the way.

IRA's/Qualified Plans are a way for the government and financial institutions to have control over your assets in various forms and fashions.

Tax deferral now is "nice", but can lead to an unbelievable tax bill due at an unknown date and at an unknown rate.

Building the "biggest pile" of 'retirement cash' isn't always going to lead to you having the biggest income in retirement, and in fact (depending upon your longevity/legacy/risk appetite/retirement engagement goals) could lead you to being much more restricted in how much money you can spend in retirement without risk of running out of money.

i.e., the very mechanism that talking heads/govt folks/96% of advisors preach to you to build the most will result in you having the most restricted, least controlled, least flexible, most prone to running out of money, most heavily taxed plan available to you.

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Redbrickbear said:

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She teaches a class lmao https://t.co/9Qb8rBVv9r

— Second City Bureaucrat (@CityBureaucrat) November 30, 2023

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Hillary teaches a class? I wonder what the subject is: Advanced treason? How to break laws & get away with it? Alinsky 101?

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Advanced Home Economics

1. Dress Stain Removal Symposia

2. Scrubbing Files

3. Seminar on Emails Concerning Yoga and Weddings

[Palestine-focused version of Zionism was but one of many Jewish territorialist projects there were about 30 such proposals throughout the 19th and early 20th century, historians reckon, although most were never more than utopian slogans.

One of the best-known Jewish territorialist projects not focused on Palestine was the Uganda Plan. Presented by Theodor Herzl at the Sixth Zionist Congress of 1903, it fell only six votes short of a majority. Another was/is Birobidzhan, established by Stalin in Siberia as a socialist haven for the Jewish people in the Soviet Union . The faint echoes of a third proposal, for a Jewish homeland in Alaska, provided the setting for Michael Chabon's 2007 alternate-history noir detective novel, 'The Yiddish Policemen's Union'.]

🚨#BREAKING: Israel-Hamas ceasefire has expired immediately following rocket launches from Gaza, the war has restarted.

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) December 1, 2023

Cobretti said:

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🚨#BREAKING: Israel-Hamas ceasefire has expired immediately following rocket launches from Gaza, the war has restarted.

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) December 1, 2023

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Stupid *****


12,000 dead Palestinians (half of them children) and they keep on attacking a nuclear power they can not hope to beat.


God dang Hamas to hell. So many dead little children

Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

The war has resumed. Time for Israel to finish the job and eliminate Hamas.

Biden and Blinken need to stay the *uc* out of their way.

Jack Bauer said:

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Israel committing genocide on dolls!

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The doll is real like Shaun King is blek.