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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents. If he did that, there is nothing to prosecute. But I'm more certain the case is bogus because Biden has far more documents, gif a longer period of time, and some of them in a facility owned by the ChiComs. And is VP, he did not have that authority.

Every prosecution of Trump is a complete fraud unless they first prosecute Bill Clinton for his crimes (How many times did he go to Epstein's Pedophile Island?), Hillary for hers (How many emails? What other security breaches?), Joe's (taking bribes, extortion, covering up everything, maybe even espionage & treason), & many others. The selectiveness of fascist interest in the law is the worst kind. It includes BLM, antifa, and many other examples of Leftists who act with impunity. Prosecuting Trump is lawfare, a tactic of terrorists, not pursuing justice.

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You know that means nothing. To keep saying "but nobody prosecuted..." is not a defense. Did he have documents that he wasn't supposed to have? You, "historian", really believe all the President has to do is think a document declassified and it is? Using that logic, he can declassify to go to the bathroom. Read it on his throne and the reclassify it walking back... Really?

Using this logic, anything Trump did or anyone else in Congress for that matter is not prosecutable until Clinton, Joe Biden and other s are prosecuted. For how long? For how long does this not allowing to prosecute stay in effect?

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That is all well and good, in theory. How do you do it? Impeach? Unless the GOP either finds enough evidence or is willing to vote in block that has and will go nowhere.

Dem Prosecutors have brought charges, gotten Grand Jury indictments and gone to trial. GOP??? Nothing. Nothing, either because the evidence is not there or there is no political will to do it.

So, once again beyond all the what "should happen", "its not fair" and quoting Animal Farm what is to be done that can be done? So far this Board is great on pontificating, but little in the realm of practical answers.

Once again, Biden should be prosecuted... So what? Trump is in Court and having to defend himself. GOP has no answer and worse doesn't seem to know how to use the process to get the Dems! They are great at using the process to self-destruct.

Sorry, guys. TIme for RealPolitik, not soap box integrity idealists speeches. The key that the Dems get, I give Abrams credit, is that they use the system.

The only GOP candidate that has shown that ability is DeSantis. He can bring it to them, but has no chance of winning as he is charismatic as a toad. Maybe Christie, he has used the system to get his way in NJ.

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GOP investigates and makes speeches. They often do little to nothing. GOP has a bad habit out of governing from a position of fear. Scared of what people will say about them. They've been a spineless bunch of sissies for years now. Not expecting them to all of a sudden to grow some balls.

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Always do nothing.

They did not even have the guts to remove mayorkias for his criminal management of the border crisis.

That is about as low hanging fruit as you can get.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/13/mayorkas-impeachment-vote.html

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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historian said:

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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I've called out both but still waiting to hear why you waited until now given the last 8 years?

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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Considering the crimes the Dems have committed in recent years (not to mention past decades), the moral thing would be to prosecute them and hold them accountable. The immoral thing would be to allow them to get away with it, thus encouraging more of the same behavior and furthering America's descent into chaos or collapse. No one in their right mind would want that to happen.

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

That's what I thought he had done. If not, then I was misinformed.

Still, if they are going to prosecute Trump for mishandling documents they had better do the same to Joe Biden & Hillary Clinton. They are responsible for security breaches far more substantial & dangerous. Until they are, the prosecution of Trump is a gross injustice & a farce.

Justice is supposed to be blind & impartial. Our legal system is supposed to have one standard for all. That's what rule of law means.

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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I've called out both but still waiting to hear why you waited until now given the last 8 years?

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I've been calling balls and strikes on both sides.

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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Considering the crimes the Dems have committed in recent years (not to mention past decades), the moral thing would be to prosecute them and hold them accountable. The immoral thing would be to allow them to get away with it, thus encouraging more if the same behavior and furthering America's descent into chaos or collapse. No one in their right mind would want that to happen.

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Totally agree

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I agree. Trump said it.

I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.
Only he didn't

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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I've called out both but still waiting to hear why you waited until now given the last 8 years?

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I've been calling balls and strikes on both sides.

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You are no 'umpire' on or off this message board.

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Did he even know he had them? This is what I mean that Trump left himself wide open for the Dems to mess with him. Same with impeachment, he knew the call was being listened to by oversight. Sloppy, that is what is getting him in the courts. Any documentation showing he declassifyied? Anything??

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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That's an old interview. Trump has said all sorts of things (shocking) but his attorneys have said different. They walked it back.

sombear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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That's an old interview. Trump has said all sorts of things (shocking) but his attorneys have said different. They walked it back.

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He said it. Quit excusing it
I believe him

The lies of the racists eventually catch up with them. Just like the rest of Marxism, cultural Marxism is a fraud built on lies and fantasy theories. It heard little resemblance to reality which is why it always fails. Unfortunately, the con men who impose it on society rarely pay the price for their mistakes. It's usually everyone else.

Wow, my views outside of Harvard liberal circles do not align with middle America???

NEW: @Harvard President Claudine Gay apologizes for her remarks in Congress:

“I am sorry…words matter.”

“I got caught up in what had become at that point, an extended, combative exchange about policies and procedures…I failed to convey what is my truth.”

“It makes me sad.” pic.twitter.com/HfUiGbHvWW

— Steve McGuire (@sfmcguire79) December 8, 2023

Pretty lame attempt at an excuse. All 3 of them deserve to lose their jobs. And DeSantis was correct about those on student visas participating in pro-Hamas demonstrations: they should all have their visas revoked & be immediately sent home. No civilized society should tolerate people advocating mass murder of the innocent. Even those in the womb.

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I'm sure he will do lots of things if he wins. I'll be happy if he gets the economy back to prosperity & cleans up the swamp for real this time. Even a partial clean up would be a step in the right direction.

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Put opponents in prison?

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That's Biden you're talking about. Actually doing it.

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So you Republicans want to do the same thing? Do y'all have a moral compass anywhere?

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LOL the irony of that statement. Buddy it's YOU who are trying to put in prison people you politically disagree with, by all available means.

Your lack of self awareness is highly amusing.

It is somewhat amusing that the Leftists contort themselves into pretzels over Trump's alleged abuses with classified documents, on very dubious grounds, while completely ignoring that VP Biden actually did abuse classified documents recklessly and that Hillary illegally had her own private server with thousands of classified documents and covered up her crimes. These are documented facts with far more evidence of criminal behavior than anything they think Trump did.

On top of all that are all of Biden's other crimes: taking bribes, extortion, espionage, treason, and much more. Yes, if Joe Biden was taking bribes from the Chinese government that is treason. What did he give our enemies in return?

The hypocrisy and double standard reeks.

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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That's an old interview. Trump has said all sorts of things (shocking) but his attorneys have said different. They walked it back.

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He said it. Quit excusing it
I believe him

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You must have a reading comprehension problem. I responded to a pro-Trump post by saying the "already classified" defense is BS and even his lawyers have not made that argument. You're now saying I was defending Trump? This is bizarro world. For the last time . . . the "already declassified" defense is BS, so much so that his lawyers have had every opportunity to state that argument in court but have not.

I don't know what else to tell you. Man, and people say I now have TDS . . . .

Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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Now it is "as I understand it..."

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It is somewhat amusing that the Leftists contort themselves into pretzels over Trump's alleged abuses with classified documents, on very dubious grounds, while completely ignoring that VP Biden actually did abuse classified documents recklessly and that Hillary illegally had her own private server with thousands of classified documents and covered up her crimes. These are documented facts with far more evidence of criminal behavior than anything they think Trump did.

On top of all that are all of Biden's other crimes: taking bribes, extortion, espionage, treason, and much more. Yes, if Joe Biden was taking bribes from the Chinese government that is treason. What did he give our enemies in return?

The hypocrisy and double standard reeks.

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Here you go again, nobody said that Biden's abuse of documents was ok, but Trumps was not. Trump is being prosecuted, that makes the conversation fair game.

You keep throwing in this fair is fair argument. I remember when it was Hunter was being allowed to walk. Well, he isn't now. All this stuff moves at different speeds, Biden should be prosecuted and no one on here has said otherwise.

I wasn't talking about here. I see no sign from anyone in power of an attempt to prosecute Joe. Yes, Congress has begun an impeachment investigation. But even if they find incontrovertible evidence of everything he is accused of, it will take months and resulting in nothing. For a successful impeachment, 67 senators have to agree to convict. The three times it has been tried, dating back to 1867 it has never happened because highly partisan. If they couldn't get Clinton it's hard to believe they will get Biden. And no one is tried to do anything about Obama's crimes or Hillary's. None of the fascist criminals have experienced anything like what Trump has gone through for years and is going through now.

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I wasn't talking about here. I see no sign from anyone in power of an attempt to prosecute Joe. Yes, Congress has begun an impeachment investigation. But even if they find incontrovertible evidence of everything he is accused of, it will take months and resulting in nothing. For a successful impeachment, 67 senators have to agree to convict. The three times it has been tried, dating back to 1867 it has never happened because highly partisan. If they couldn't get Clinton it's hard to believe they will get Biden. And no one is tried to do anything about Obama's crimes or Hillary's. None of the fascist criminals have experienced anything like what Trump has gone through for years and is going through now.

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The problem is that typically the sitting President's DOJ will give every benefit of the doubt, that is just the way it is. Congress will need to do something or when the GOP gets back in power they will. I don't see Garland going after Joe. Two tier? I would say it is just the way it was from the beginning. Would Randolph, Bradford or Lee go after George Washington?

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historian said:

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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That's an old interview. Trump has said all sorts of things (shocking) but his attorneys have said different. They walked it back.

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He said it. Quit excusing it
I believe him

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You must have a reading comprehension problem. I responded to a pro-Trump post by saying the "already classified" defense is BS and even his lawyers have not made that argument. You're now saying I was defending Trump? This is bizarro world. For the last time . . . the "already declassified" defense is BS, so much so that his lawyers have had every opportunity to state that argument in court but have not.

I don't know what else to tell you. Man, and people say I now have TDS . . . .

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If Mr. Trump is returned to office, people close to him have vowed to "come after" the news media, open criminal investigations into onetime aides who broke with the former president and purge the government of civil servants deemed disloyal. When critics said Mr. Trump's language about ridding Washington of "vermin" echoed that of Adolf Hitler, the former president's spokesman said the critics' "sad, miserable existence will be crushed" under a new Trump administration.

This is not Gaza. This is an official flag-raising ceremony by the city of Fresno, California:
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— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) December 10, 2023

They probably would not have gone after Pres. Washington because they had no reason to. He was about as clean of a president as we have ever had. It also was a very different era in so many ways.

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As I understand the situation, as president Trump had the authority to declassify documents.

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You misunderstand. I suggest more research. A president cannot declassify by merely thinking the act in retrospect.

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I never said the president declassified a document by merely thinking it. That's stupid & ludicrous. I don't know what the actual procedure is but no doubt if he wanted those documents declassified he could have done that before leaving office. That's what he did.

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His attorney have publicly stated that he is not even making that argument.

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Wrong.

Trump: I could declassify documents by thinking about it
The former president insisted in an interview with Sean Hannity that the documents at issue in the Mar-a-Lago probe were all declassified. Evidence, he added, isn't really needed.
Donald Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.
Former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had declassified the documents he took with him to his Mar-a-Lago estate that have since become the subject of an extensive Justice Department investigation.
Speaking on Fox News' "Hannity," Trump declined to point to specific evidence of that declassification. But, in a pre-recorded interview, he told host Sean Hannity that evidence was not needed.
"There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it," Trump said. "You're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified, even by thinking about it."

Pressed further, Trump insisted he had declassified the documents in question when he left the White House, again without pointing to proof of such.

"In other words, when I left the White House, they were declassified," Trump said.
The comments came during a discussion of the ongoing criminal investigation of the highly sensitive documents seized by federal agents from Trump's home and resort in Florida. And they were offered as the ex-president's own legal team has resisted efforts to back up the assertion that the documents in question were declassified.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-i-could-declassify-documents-by-thinking-about-it-00058212

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Now it is "as I understand it..."

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Concept: the originating authority cannot be encumbered. To do so subordinates that authority to another,