Netanyahu said "we are at war,"

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11:45p, 1/10/25
True?


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Sachs. The Columbia professor and defender of the Palestinian protest encampments, university Presidents, and the phrase "from the river to the sea".

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/l52lk2typbcbezafys88s88abnsjje

Social media bomb throwers and right wing anti-Semites revived this left wing nut job as someone worth listening to. He's the neo-Noam Chomsky.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 2:41p, 1/12/25
ATL Bear said:
Sachs. The Columbia professor and defender of the Palestinian protest encampments, university Presidents, and the phrase "from the river to the sea".

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/l52lk2typbcbezafys88s88abnsjje

Social media bomb throwers and right wing anti-Semites revived this left wing nut job as someone worth listening to. He's the neo-Noam Chomsky.
Professor defends free speech, gets smeared as a commie.

Some things never change.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 2:56p, 1/12/25
There is a difference between defending free speech and supporting genocidal terrorists. Anyone who understands the phrase "from the river to the sea" knows it is an example of the latter.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to historian • 2:58p, 1/12/25
historian said:
There is a difference between defending free speech and supporting genocidal terrorists. Anyone who understands the phrase "from the river to the sea" knows it is an example of the latter.
I'd post a source debunking that claim, but ATL already did us the courtesy.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 4:09p, 1/12/25
Because Jeff Sachs's web site is an objective source of info on issues related to Jeff Sachs. Gotcha
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to historian • 4:54p, 1/12/25
historian said:
Because Jeff Sachs's web site is an objective source of info on issues related to Jeff Sachs. Gotcha
I don't know that the meaning of "from the river to the sea" is an issue particularly related to Jeff Sachs, but feel free to point out his error regarding the phrase.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 5:42p, 1/12/25
You referenced ATLBear & it's in your most recent post quoting him.
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In reply to historian • 5:59p, 1/12/25
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You referenced ATLBear & it's in your most recent post quoting him.
Right, but you're not really countering his argument just by saying it's on his website. A lot of people post their own arguments on their own websites.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 6:40p, 1/12/25
I was merely referencing your post. Nothing more.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 10:42p, 1/12/25
Sam Lowry said:
ATL Bear said:
Sachs. The Columbia professor and defender of the Palestinian protest encampments, university Presidents, and the phrase "from the river to the sea".

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/l52lk2typbcbezafys88s88abnsjje

Social media bomb throwers and right wing anti-Semites revived this left wing nut job as someone worth listening to. He's the neo-Noam Chomsky.
Professor defends free speech, gets smeared as a commie.

Some things never change.
Everyone is free to say dumb ***** I'm addressing those who buy into it.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:45p, 1/12/25
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Of course we can trust the word of a commie politician.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 10:47p, 1/12/25
CBS is another fascist propaganda outlet. They aren't trustworthy. They haven't been for years. I remember when Dan Rather destroyed his career using fake documents in a hatchet job against W.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 8:44a, 1/13/25
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What you see there is stone cold irony.

We hear all the time that Israel owns USG policy in the Middle East. Yet, we hear little of an equal problem - Arab influence on USG policy in the middle east. The US Dept of State is structurally pro-Arab. Always has been. Likely always will be. Former State Dep geographyer Dr. Colbert Held taught a Political Geography class at BU. It was one of the best, most useful courses I took - how & why borders come & go, the forces that push & pull on them, the meanings of "nation" and "state," etc...... He was quite pro-Arab, described our pro-Israel policy as crazy...."why would we form a policy which alienates so many countries in the Middle East?" He didn't harp on it at all. Mentioned it only a couple of times.

He was a quite genial fellow, pragmatic, not at all an islamist or intersectionalist or anything like that. One of the top 3 or 4 favorite classes from my 6yrs getting 2 degrees. Just never understood why he couldn't see the weaknesses of the pro-Arab options. I suppose it was because he was trained as a Geographer, rather than in a national security portfolio. Morel likely, it was just that he was an academic - the academy is structurally hostile to a lot of things Americans at large support, particularly Israel. And then he went to Foggy Bottom and fell into the Arab sympathy mindset. You can google him. He's got a ton of pictures archived.

All Rharrit did was accumulate a compendium of Palestinian propaganda.
There is nothing unusual about "collateral damage" in war, particularly when one of the combatants hides amongst women & children.
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12:46p, 1/15/25
Did Trump just end the war and free the hostages? Seeing news stuff starting to pop up.
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Both sides know the Biden deal is pretty fair to each of them, that's why they didnt pursue it. They thought they could get a better deal. Their thinking now, is that Trump is too unpredictable to pass up a fair deal right now. Both camps have been saying they don't want a worse deal with Trump in charge.

And of course that is a good thing. Any cease fire means lives are spared, many of them innocents.

There will be 3 phases of negotiation, and this was the easiest. 30 something Israelis for probably hundreds of Palestinians.

The real challenge will be agreeing upon long term governance of Gaza, buffer zones, and on that topic, BBC was reporting that Trump is pro Palestinian statehood, so that might be interesting.

If Israel has weakened Hamas to the point that they don't see themselves as capable of major offensives against Israel in the immediate to mid future, they might actually go for some sort of co-existence.

It has been presented to them many times, but they always had rathered just kill Jews. This may be a real opportunity for something similar to peace.
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Libs gotta be hating this. They have to virtue signal happiness but at the same time: orange man bad!

What a conundrum!!
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In reply to historian • 12:15p, 1/19/25
historian said:
CBS is another fascist propaganda outlet. They aren't trustworthy. They haven't been for years. I remember when Dan Rather destroyed his career using fake documents in a hatchet job against W.
Dr. History. I'd assume you would know what a "Fascist" is. You throw around that term wrongfully and throw it out there like Halloween Candy. You refer to every Dem and every news outlet as fascist, save Foxy News. Please get it straight .
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historian said:
CBS is another fascist propaganda outlet. They aren't trustworthy. They haven't been for years. I remember when Dan Rather destroyed his career using fake documents in a hatchet job against W.
Dr. History. I'd assume you would know what a "Fascist" is. You throw around that term wrongfully and throw it out there like Halloween Candy. You refer to every Dem and every news outlet as fascist, save Foxy News. Please get it straight .


He is quite correct on his usage of the word.
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In reply to J.R. • 3:54p, 1/19/25
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historian said:
CBS is another fascist propaganda outlet. They aren't trustworthy. They haven't been for years. I remember when Dan Rather destroyed his career using fake documents in a hatchet job against W.
Dr. History. I'd assume you would know what a "Fascist" is. You throw around that term wrongfully and throw it out there like Halloween Candy. You refer to every Dem and every news outlet as fascist, save Foxy News. Please get it straight .

Actually, I use the label fascist accurately. Most people assume that fascism is a movement of the political right because that's been the line from the beginning. It doesn't even make sense. Fascism must be understood economically & politically and then one can see that it's a variation of socialism. The two earliest examples were Mussolini & Hitler. Both were socialists. Mussolini created the first fascist party (& gave it its name) after he was kicked out of the Italian socialist party. Nazi is short for National Socialist German Worker's Party. Fascism is most definitely on the Left.

The whole fascist is right myth began with Stalin & the Soviets. They have never been a reliable source on anything.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:28a, 1/20/25
Reminds me of Nazi propaganda trying to dupe the Red Cross & the world into thinking that they treated Jews well. They even built a "model" concentration camp in Czechoslovakia to promote the myth, Theresienstadt. It was a sham and the Jews who were interned there were later transferred to death camps for extermination.

The point is that it's a fraud and only an idiot would believe their lies.
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In reply to historian • 7:31a, 1/20/25
historian said:
They even built a "model" concentration camp in Czechoslovakia to promote the myth, Theresienstadt. It was a sham and the Jews who were interned there were later transferred to death camps for extermination.



Good info

Thanks

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