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"only 4 seem to have had any kind of Political motive and they were all linked to the Right Wing (3 of the 4 I mentioned in the previous post and the 2018 Pittsburgh Synagogue shootings)"

You ignore plenty of attacks with political motives by trans people, greenies, etc. not to mention the terrorist attacks, of which they have been hundreds since 9-11. Those certainly were politically motivated.

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Oldbear83 said:

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no cms, you threw out a garbage opinion which evaporates in daylight and now you want to pretend otherwise.

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cms186 said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Oldbear83 said:

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no cms, you threw out a garbage opinion which evaporates in daylight and now you want to pretend otherwise.

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no, i didnt, its an opinion that i backed up with researched facts, rather than your huffing and puffing about something i didnt say.

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Not sure that's accurate.

Can you get in trouble for "misgendering"? Or saying something like "only women can give birth"?

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If you say "only biological Women can give birth" which is a factually accurate statement then no.

If you said "only women can give birth" then I dont think you would get in legal trouble, depending on the context and visibility of your statement, then you might get online hate for it

same goes with Misgendering people

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UK citizens should be able to tell someone claiming to be transgender that they're insane, lying to themselves and their promotion of their ideology is a danger to society and children.

For it or against it?

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There is nothing currently stopping them from doing so, other than public reaction, I believe there are various celebrities (including JK Rowling) that say things similar to what you are expressing and have suffered no legal repercussions, some of them have suffered loss of earnings, but when you say stupid ****, there are usually some kind of repercussions

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I'm asking if you want it to be legal or not?

And no, that's not a dumb thing to say, it's the truth.

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If people want to show their arses in the way you describe, than sure

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Well your government doesn't agree.

HOLY FUCK

FUCK ENGLAND pic.twitter.com/c902NMyvAL

— GBH 🤡 ⚔️ Remilio (@xbtGBH) August 13, 2024

This is outrageous.

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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Hey ⁦@elonmusk⁩ this Brit wants to extradite you to the UK, says you’re “on borrowed time.” You scared?🤣😆 pic.twitter.com/cNVLPZ0dD2

— John Rich🇺🇸 (@johnrich) August 13, 2024

Jack Bauer said:

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Imagine some *****face like this deciding what is offensive speech or misinformation

Hey ⁦@elonmusk⁩ this Brit wants to extradite you to the UK, says you’re “on borrowed time.” You scared?🤣😆 pic.twitter.com/cNVLPZ0dD2

— John Rich🇺🇸 (@johnrich) August 13, 2024

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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nein51 said:

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Not sure that's accurate.

Can you get in trouble for "misgendering"? Or saying something like "only women can give birth"?

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If you say "only biological Women can give birth" which is a factually accurate statement then no.

If you said "only women can give birth" then I dont think you would get in legal trouble, depending on the context and visibility of your statement, then you might get online hate for it

same goes with Misgendering people

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UK citizens should be able to tell someone claiming to be transgender that they're insane, lying to themselves and their promotion of their ideology is a danger to society and children.

For it or against it?

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There is nothing currently stopping them from doing so, other than public reaction, I believe there are various celebrities (including JK Rowling) that say things similar to what you are expressing and have suffered no legal repercussions, some of them have suffered loss of earnings, but when you say stupid ****, there are usually some kind of repercussions

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I'm asking if you want it to be legal or not?

And no, that's not a dumb thing to say, it's the truth.

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If people want to show their arses in the way you describe, than sure

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Well your government doesn't agree.

HOLY FUCK

FUCK ENGLAND pic.twitter.com/c902NMyvAL

— GBH 🤡 ⚔️ Remilio (@xbtGBH) August 13, 2024

This is outrageous.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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historian said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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That's because they are actually fascists. Once one defines the term accurately and understands how it applies to modern events it is obvious. The problem is most people don't know what it means because they were never taught accurately. Marxist educators have been repeating Stalin's propaganda from 100 years ago, probably without realizing it..

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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nein51 said:

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Not sure that's accurate.

Can you get in trouble for "misgendering"? Or saying something like "only women can give birth"?

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If you say "only biological Women can give birth" which is a factually accurate statement then no.

If you said "only women can give birth" then I dont think you would get in legal trouble, depending on the context and visibility of your statement, then you might get online hate for it

same goes with Misgendering people

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UK citizens should be able to tell someone claiming to be transgender that they're insane, lying to themselves and their promotion of their ideology is a danger to society and children.

For it or against it?

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There is nothing currently stopping them from doing so, other than public reaction, I believe there are various celebrities (including JK Rowling) that say things similar to what you are expressing and have suffered no legal repercussions, some of them have suffered loss of earnings, but when you say stupid ****, there are usually some kind of repercussions

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I'm asking if you want it to be legal or not?

And no, that's not a dumb thing to say, it's the truth.

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If people want to show their arses in the way you describe, than sure

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Well your government doesn't agree.

HOLY FUCK

FUCK ENGLAND pic.twitter.com/c902NMyvAL

— GBH 🤡 ⚔️ Remilio (@xbtGBH) August 13, 2024

This is outrageous.

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Im assuming this is in relation to this: https://news.sky.com/story/jordan-parlour-facebook-user-jailed-for-riot-related-social-media-posts-13193894 inciting Violence and riots is the kind of stuff I was told earlier was fine to be prosecuted for

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🇬🇧 Jacob Rees Mogg is one of a number of ousted Tory politicians suddenly finding a voice to speak out against mass-immigration after 14 years of flooding their country with third worlders against the wishes of their voters.

He says his government made a mistake embracing two… pic.twitter.com/O5COUgFP1J

— Keith Woods (@KeithWoodsYT) August 15, 2024

muddybrazos said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Sir Winston Churchill said it best:

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage."

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Winston Churchill

The greatest politician in the English speaking world until
victory was achieved in 1945.

Then the physical and mental ravages of old age took hold.

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I feel what you are saying but Chruchill over saw the end of the British empire (wasted lives and money on two foolish world wars)

While Ben oversaw the British empire reach its peak of power

He was the best PM of the UK

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Reasonable opinion.

But Ben didn't have to deal with the likes of Stalin or Hitler from a position of weakness.

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Churchill was actually a complete POS. Hitler made several peace offeriings and wanted to avoid war with Britian and he rejected all of them. He was paid off to push Britian into war.

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Okay. It is official. We have reached the end of the internet.

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Its true, though. Hitler let Britain get away at Dunkirk. He wanted to kill the bolsheviks and didnt want war with Britain and the US.

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ShooterTX said:

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muddybrazos said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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muddybrazos said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Sir Winston Churchill said it best:

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage."

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Winston Churchill

The greatest politician in the English speaking world until
victory was achieved in 1945.

Then the physical and mental ravages of old age took hold.

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I feel what you are saying but Chruchill over saw the end of the British empire (wasted lives and money on two foolish world wars)

While Ben oversaw the British empire reach its peak of power

He was the best PM of the UK

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Reasonable opinion.

But Ben didn't have to deal with the likes of Stalin or Hitler from a position of weakness.

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Churchill was actually a complete POS. Hitler made several peace offeriings and wanted to avoid war with Britian and he rejected all of them. He was paid off to push Britian into war.

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Okay. It is official. We have reached the end of the internet.

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Its true, though. Hitler let Britain get away at Dunkirk. He wanted to kill the bolsheviks and didnt want war with Britain and the US.

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Hitler was a evil POS who violated every treaty he signed... and yet you call Churchill a POS for not signing a peace treaty with him?

What kind of stupid are you exactly?

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Let me have Professor Ice T explain it to the Englishman.

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I mean, you can say whatever you want about the 2nd amendment, Im not ever going to agree about it, the widescale access to dangerous weapons is insane to me, i can get behind maybe a pistol or something for self defence, but the kind of guns you can buy in the USA is crazy, its even more crazy how you have the issues with gun crime and specifically School Shootings and the reaction of Gun enthusiasts is either a shrug of the shoulders or a claim that more guns and prayers will solve the situation. You can say what you like about my country, it is very far from perfect, but we had a single school shooting and took decisive action to make sure something like that would never happen again.

As I say, it's something i will never agree on, thats fine, the world would be boring if we all agreed on everything.

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The European mind can't comprehend the level of freedom we have.

It's in our DNA and why we're here. You don't have it in your DNA to stand up against tyranny. You won't fight back and you have nothing to fight back with…we don't have that problem.

All governments have a 100% track record of becoming tyrannical. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when. Thank god our founding fathers understood this.

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Europe doesnt stand up against Tyranny might be the single dumbest thing I've read on this Forum.

I would also add, whilst the level of access to Guns the average American has is crazy, if the American Government ever did become Tyrannical and the US populace wanted to rise up, your Guns would matter **** all against a mobilised Army with Air and Armour Support

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