Just comparing their sacred texts, there are sword verses in the Koran. There are also military verses in the Old Testament. However, there are no sword passages in the New Testament. Both Islamic and Christian forces have long committed religious wars, but war for the sake of Christian faith is largely a thing of the past. The sword verses in the Koran are uber motivation for violence for radical Islamists. And (I suspect) the overwhelming majority of Islam hate radical Islam.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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Any idea that Nazi Germany was "not Christian" because many top Nazi officials were atheists or flirted with neo-paganism, and because Catholic leadership opposed the regime, oversimplifies the complex relationship between Nazism and Christianity. While there is a kernel of truth to the idea that certain high-ranking Nazis rejected traditional Christianity, this does not negate the deeply entangled relationship between Christianity and the Nazi movement.

Your map has nothing to do with Catholic complacence toward the Nazi movement. It does draw attention to much of its early support coming from Protestant-majority areas, particularly in northern and eastern Germany. It is inaccurate to imply Nazi voters were not predominantly Christian. In addition to Catholic support or complacence, Nazi support also came from devout Protestants. The Nazi Party platform attempted to align Nazism with a racially reinterpreted version of Christianity, emphasizing obedience, anti-Semitism, and nationalism. Gott Mitt Uns was even stamped on the belt buckles of the military. That's just one example of how the government used Christian imagery and language to legitimize their regime. Hitler frequently invoked God and divine providence in speeches. Churches flew swastika flags; pastors gave the Nazi salute; and many Christian leaders, such as those in the pro-Nazi "German Christian" movement, attempted to reconcile Christian teachings with Nazi ideology.

I'll acknowledge that elements of the Catholic hierarchy, were critical of Nazism, particularly in its attempts to control the Catholic Church. However, this opposition was often limited in scope and motivated more by institutional self-preservation than outright rejection of Nazi ideology. Many Catholic bishops remained silent or even collaborated with the regime in hopes of protecting the Church's interests. Moreover, the 1933 Concordat between the Vatican and Nazi Germany was seen by many as legitimizing the regime.

The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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What research says!! pic.twitter.com/OXQ0kXXrgN

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

[TexasScientist said:

Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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Lutherans were the main church in Gernany. During Hitler's reign of terror:
- The Confessing Church: This movement emerged as a dissenting faction within the German Evangelical Church, actively opposing the Nazi-backed "German Christians" and their attempt to align Protestantism with Nazi ideology. Many Lutherans joined the Confessing Church and resisted the Nazi regime, often at great personal cost.
- Individuals: Prominent Lutheran figures like Martin Niemöller and Dietrich Bonhoeffer became outspoken critics of Nazi interference in the Church and faced imprisonment and even execution for their resistance.
- The "German Christians": It is crucial to acknowledge the existence of the "German Christians," a pro-Nazi group within the German Evangelical Church that supported Hitler's policies and sought to integrate Nazi ideology into the church.

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As was true for the German Catholics, and other Protestants, the majority of the German Lutheran Church was either complacent or aligned with the Nazi regime through participation in the German Christians movement, and/or through passive cooperation with Nazi policies. I'll acknowledge that there was a minority who were courageous and outspoken in their opposition, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer. That doesn't excuse the fact that institutionalized Lutheranism failed to stand up against Nazism.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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No, what I'm saying is you fail to recognize that most people living in Germany professed to being Christian, and those same people either outright supported the Nazi movement, or at minimum their complacence allowed the Nazi movement to flourish.

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Lutherans were the main church in Gernany. During Hitler's reign of terror:
- The Confessing Church: This movement emerged as a dissenting faction within the German Evangelical Church, actively opposing the Nazi-backed "German Christians" and their attempt to align Protestantism with Nazi ideology. Many Lutherans joined the Confessing Church and resisted the Nazi regime, often at great personal cost.
- Individuals: Prominent Lutheran figures like Martin Niemöller and Dietrich Bonhoeffer became outspoken critics of Nazi interference in the Church and faced imprisonment and even execution for their resistance.
- The "German Christians": It is crucial to acknowledge the existence of the "German Christians," a pro-Nazi group within the German Evangelical Church that supported Hitler's policies and sought to integrate Nazi ideology into the church.

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As was true for the German Catholics, and other Protestants, the majority of the German Lutheran Church was either complacent or aligned with the Nazi regime through participation in the German Christians movement, and/or through passive cooperation with Nazi policies. I'll acknowledge that there was a minority who were courageous and outspoken in their opposition, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer. That doesn't excuse the fact that institutionalized Lutheranism failed to stand up against Nazism.

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Simply not true. Not sure why you keep repeating this fabrication.

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What research says!! pic.twitter.com/OXQ0kXXrgN

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That's an opinion poll, not research into which religion is most violent.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

[TexasScientist said:

Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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No, what I'm saying is you fail to recognize that most people living in Germany professed to being Christian, and those same people either outright supported the Nazi movement, or at minimum their complacence allowed the Nazi movement to flourish.

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Not true. we've been over this time and again.

A Syrian Muslim has been charged in Germany for allegedly planning a jihadist attack on a Taylor Swift concert in Vienna. Swift's performances in Austria were cancelled as a result. She has not spoken out to condemn radical Islam, but has condemned Trump. https://t.co/pEgaIWcUmr

— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) June 29, 2025

Having great success and wealth does not always come with intelligence or wisdom

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What research says!! pic.twitter.com/OXQ0kXXrgN

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That's an opinion poll, not research into which religion is most violent.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

[TexasScientist said:

Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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No, what I'm saying is you fail to recognize that most people living in Germany professed to being Christian, and those same people either outright supported the Nazi movement, or at minimum their complacence allowed the Nazi movement to flourish.

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I have acknowledged that the majority of Germans were Christian

You still think the majority of German Christians supported the Nazis….but of course that is not correct

The Nazis as a party never got more than 37% of the vote…so a full 63% of Germans never even voted for them ever…and did not support them. The Nazis overthrew German democracy and created a dictatorship. (Important fact to remember)

And German Catholics were of course even more opposed to voting for the Nazi party….there was almost no support in the Catholic voting community for their movement.

(By using your logic the majority of Russian orthodox Christians were somehow supporters of the Bolsheviks or complicit….even though in truth they were being ruled over by a dictatorial non-democratic communist movement that they never voted for.)

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What research says!! pic.twitter.com/OXQ0kXXrgN

— Emilia Henderson (@Emilia__writes) May 27, 2025

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That's an opinion poll, not research into which religion is most violent.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

[TexasScientist said:

Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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No, what I'm saying is you fail to recognize that most people living in Germany professed to being Christian, and those same people either outright supported the Nazi movement, or at minimum their complacence allowed the Nazi movement to flourish.

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Not true. we've been over this time and again.

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He is also discounting the fact that the Nazi government ( a tyrannical-totalitarian government) used their power to force the merger of these various Protestant churches and then took control of them…

[The Nazis attempted to force the German Protestant churches, which included a large number of Lutherans, into a unified, state-controlled entity aligned with Nazi ideology. This effort, known as the "Gleichschaltung" or coordination, aimed to bring all aspects of German life, including religious institutions, under the control of the Nazi regime]

[On 16 July 1935, Hanns Kerrl was appointed Reichsminister for Church Affairs, a newly created department….

On 24 September 1935, a new law empowered Kerrl to legislate by way of ordinances within the German Evangelical Church, circumventing any synodal autonomy.

…The official German Evangelical Church became subordinate to the new bureaucracy, and Mller lost power but still retained the now meaningless titles of German Reich's Bishop and old-Prussian State Bishop..]

This is more like a hostile takeover under threat of government persecution

If they don't want to live in a country where people eat bacon then they can move back to the place you left. We aren't changing our diets to accommodate obnoxious & rude immigrants.

Seeing this in America, you should be aware of what’s happening in Texas

- Texas is the number 1 state for fastest growing amount of new Muslim Mosques
- Texas state government has allocated approximately $13 million in taxpayer funds to 18 Islamic organizations just in 2025
-… pic.twitter.com/6RxGcG2sJe

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) July 1, 2025

Both Judaism and Islam are religions that preach the kingdom of God on earth. The difference is that Judaism is geographically and genetically restrictive while Islam's mandate is to establish the Dar al Islam (the house of submission to Allah) on the whole planet. Also, the Roman Army cut the heart out of Judaism in 70 AD when it destroyed the temple, sacked Jerusalem, and ended the practice of Judaism.

They should not be getting one penny from taxpayers

They all define "Kingdom of God" differently. Only Islam envisions it as resulting from global conquest and mass murder. Only Islamofascists see Hitler as a hero who they wish to emulate.

Christian's and Jews are a threat to no one except their enemies who wish to destroy them. They deserve to be destroyed themselves. Thus Israel's ongoing destruction of Hamas after October 7, 2023 is completely valid and warranted.

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Jews are a threat to no one except their enemies who wish to destroy them. They deserve to be destroyed themselves. Thus Israel's ongoing destruction of Hamas after October 7, 2023 is completely valid and warranted.

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Missed John 16:2, eh? The stoning of our first martyr Stephen? The Sicarii? The Irgun and Lehi? Malkhut Yisrael?

Ten days ago. https://t.co/eFFibrOtBk pic.twitter.com/uRYzEfQoVP

— Adam H. Condra ☦️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@PolytropicSage) July 2, 2025

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Jews are a threat to no one except their enemies who wish to destroy them. They deserve to be destroyed themselves. Thus Israel's ongoing destruction of Hamas after October 7, 2023 is completely valid and warranted.

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Missed John 16:2, eh? The stoning of our first martyr Stephen? The Sicarii? The Irgun and Lehi? Malkhut Yisrael?

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Stephen was killed 2,000 years ago, long before the modern state of Israel existed. I was talking about today and used present tense "are" instead of past tense "were". If you are going to count 2,000 years of history, every nation or people is a threat to others. The distinction becomes meaningless. You might is well include the Sons of Liberty.

Blow by blow worldwide for The Religion of Peace

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

⚡️🇮🇷 BREAKING — Iran continues to bury its generals, one after another.
Today, the body of IRGC General Mohammad Saeed Izadi was laid to rest in Qom.

Another senior commander eliminated by Israel during the 12-Day War between Israel and Iran.
The message is clear: no one in the… pic.twitter.com/ZPL2cv3mz9

— 🌞🟣General_QuackerDDF🍅🌞 (@CarmeliBarak) July 3, 2025

What evll culture, how do they give birth pic.twitter.com/PPZPjO4368

— Movies and tvshows (@Movie_tvshows_) July 3, 2025

Tajikistan, a 97% Muslim-majority nation that had already banned burqas and hijabs, is now turning mosques into dance halls to fight radicalization.

Do you like this idea? pic.twitter.com/qPek9T2kji

— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) July 2, 2025

The only hope for any of those people is Jesus Christ. Muhammad & Islam is a one way ticket to hell. And they won't get any virgins to exploit & abuse.

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Stephen was killed 2,000 years ago, long before the modern state of Israel existed. I was talking about today and used present tense "are" instead of past tense "were".

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Half the examples I provided were from ancient church history. Half were from the 20th century. I did that intentionally to pre-emptively address this exact response. In the past month, Jolani's terrorists attacked a church in Syria. Netanyahu's settlers are pushing Christians out of the last Christian town.

There is no Judeo-Christianity no more than there is Chirslam. None of these people are our friends.

I was speaking primarily about the 21st century.

They are our friends to the extent that their agenda aligns with ours. We actually have more in common with Israel than any other country in the region and they do more than anyone else to combat terrorism. That is in our interest too.

The past month is in the 21st century. Just step away from the churches with the Israeli flags on stage and have shofars in the praise band.

I've never been to a church with those features.

I'm dealing with geopolitical realities. Some call it realpolitik. Maybe they think it sounds cool to say it in German!

What Islamists did to Yazidis in Iraq was so much worse than what’s happening in Gaza.

Elderly women buried alive for being too old to be sex slaves.

Mothers forced to eat their own babies.

Young girls locked in iron cages and burned to death.

Yet not a single protest!… pic.twitter.com/jp3nuchlX9

— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) July 3, 2025

I think Islam as a religious force will collapse within 15 years everywhere but the West. A secular wave is going to hit the Islamic world the likes you've never seen. strict Islamism will become a European phenomenon.

— Wie Dan🍃 (@LudditeHacker) July 7, 2025

We are so used to an aging society we have totally forgotten how quick cultural change can happen when your population pyramid looks like this. If 15 year olds don't care anymore when they have these numbers it's game over for the culture in 10 years. https://t.co/8nOvkUgHdl pic.twitter.com/0cvDxnOHfV

— Wie Dan🍃 (@LudditeHacker) July 7, 2025

“They massacre by the million; they burn and destroy; they turn fertile districts into desert. They seem incapable of creative effort…”

Hilaire Belloc, The Heresy of Mohammed pic.twitter.com/JPRVhH5Q6l

— Mark W. (@DurhamWASP) July 7, 2025

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What research says!! pic.twitter.com/OXQ0kXXrgN

— Emilia Henderson (@Emilia__writes) May 27, 2025

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That's an opinion poll, not research into which religion is most violent.

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From the start, Christianity was spread through missionary activity at great personal risk by missionaries, like Paul, who generally ended as martyrs. In contrast, Muhammad spread Islam through ruthless conquest and his successors continued that policy for most of the past 1400 years.

With Christianity, violence is not the preferred method of outreach. With Islam it always has been. Naturally, there are plenty of exceptions but the contrasts are real and stark.

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Explain that to the Native Americans. Or the Jews and others during the inquisitions. Or the 'heretical" scientists who presented evidence contrary to established church dogma. Or the Reformation, Crusades etc.

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The German Evangelical Church was the one that helped the Nazis. However it was basically created by the Nazis. Hardly a good way to show that Christians persecuted the Jews. Almost every other church in Germany hated the Nazis. See Deitrich Bonhoffer is you want to know more.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.

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The plan was to always move against the Catholic Church

Atheism or some kind of revived Germanic paganism was the goal

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See response to Assassin.

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I saw the response....and it was not accurate.

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Except they were Christians. And the Catholic Church was in part supportive and at best complacent, many helping hide or facilitate the escape of war criminals.]

The highest ranking Nazis were essential atheists or playing with some form of neo-paganism.

The Catholic Church was not supportive of the Nazis in terms of its hieriarcy...."Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII), publicly criticized Nazi ideology, particularly its racism and totalitarianism, through encyclicals like Mit brennender Sorge" nor its rank and file voters.

Catholic majority areas consistently voted for other parties besides the Nazi party

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The average German identified as being Christian throughout the Third Reich, and Church attendance remained relatively high during the 1930s and early 1940s. Military chaplains served in the Wehrmacht, and Christian burial rites were common for German soldiers. The idea that the Nazi state had completely shed Christian identity is belied by the fact that Nazism thrived in a society that still saw itself culturally and nationally as being Christian. To claim that Nazi Germany was not Christian ignores the reality of how the Germans religious identity was intertwined with the ideology and operations of the Third Reich.

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And you are again confusing average Germans with the Nazi party.

Average Germans were of course overwhelmingly Christian in the 1930s (Europeans all over the continent were).

But the Nazi movement and upper level leadership was a fully modernist political movement that was atheistic/agnostic with strong neo-pagan factions.

And as was shown….Hitler and the leadership planned to move against organized Christianity once the war was won.

Replacing it with modern Scientific-atheism or some kind of revived volkish/Nordic Odin-ism

But average Germans were of course not the Nazi movement….average Germans never even voted for the Nazi party by majorities.

Hitler and the Nazis never even got to 40% of the general German vote before they overthrew the political system

For most of its history the Nazi party only had 8%-13% support levels

[Adolf Hitler's highest percentage of votes in a free and open national election in Germany was approximately 37%…. specifically, the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved this percentage in the July 1932 general election. Hitler also received around 36.8% of the vote in the 1932 German presidential election]

It was a minority political movement….further ruled by a small elite of Nazis subordinate to the Fuhrer (supreme leader)

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No, what I'm saying is you fail to recognize that most people living in Germany professed to being Christian, and those same people either outright supported the Nazi movement, or at minimum their complacence allowed the Nazi movement to flourish.

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Not true. we've been over this time and again.

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Approximately 95% of Germans were Protestants and Catholics with another 3.5% believing in God. You can't deny that.