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No. National socialists were far Left
The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-LEFT political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#:~:text=The%20Nazi%20Party%2C%20officially%20the,supported%20the%20ideology%20of%20Nazism.
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Wikipedia is notoriously wrong on many things. This is another example. It's a common mistake because most people don't know the truth. (They did get the German name correct). Most of us were taught incorrectly in school by Leftist teachers and professors repeating the lie that defies all facts and common sense. Nazi is a shortened form of National Socialist with Socialist being the key word in understanding who they were.
As noted above, the Nazis were no more Christian than the demographics of any other large group. Maybe some of them were nominally "Christian", probably those who called themselves "Christian" because they were baptized or attended church on Christmas and Easter. They were not "Christians" in the Christian sense, that is by God's definition. They were almost certainly the kind of "Christians" Christ said he did not know because they did not truly follow Him:
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'" Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV
And none of this makes the Nazi Party a Christian organization. Nothing about Nazism follows Christian principles as evidenced by Christ's two greatest commandments:
"Jesus replied: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Mathew 22:37-40 NIV
You are convincing no-one except yourself, and that's only because you are too arrogant and stubborn to see the truth. The only way one can truly understand God and come to Christ is through humility and repentance.
Ok so if we add socialist to MAGA, MAGA Socialist make you a lefty. It's generally accepted that Facism and Nazi ideals are far right in the political spectrum.
The rest of what you wrote is nonsense, and underscores the contradictions of so called scripture.
I would add that Christians in Nazi Germany clearly turned a blind eye to the atrocities they and their countrymen were commtting, and Christianity is deficient as a moral compass. The reason it is deficient is because its roots origninate in culutures that excuse violence and atrocities.
It might be generally accepted that fascism & Nazism are ideas of the right but it's a lie. There are a lot of lies that are generally accepted: Hunter's laptop, Russiagate, the ludicrous idea that socialism works, the climate cult (no, we are not destroying the planet), the trans cult (a man cannot become a woman, ever), "Trump is literally Hitler" (Hitler has been dead 80 years), every time a Leftist labels Trump or his supporters a fascist, and many more examples.
You continue making the false argument that the Nazis were Christian's. No they weren't. That lie has already been debunked but Leftists arrogantly stick with their lies no matter how absurd or how much contrary to the facts. Ironically, that is a common characteristic of genuine fascism which makes sense because it is an ideology of the Left.
To be honest, it's easy and naturally for people to turn a blind eye to evils in their midst. Whether it's the crimes of the Nazis, the crimes of the Bolsheviks (or any other communist regime), Apartheid, the crimes of antifa, the covid & vax hoaxes, abortion in demand, the trans cult, or many other example from history. It takes courage to do the right thing and stand up to evil. Few people have the courage of a Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Dietrich Boenhoefer, Rosa Parks, MLK, Raul Wallenberg, Charlie Kirk, etc. That courage is what makes them real heroes.
I will always take God's word over the contradictions of foolish philosophies and arrogance. Scripture, on the other hand, is always accurate 100% of the time and has repeatedly been proven so for centuries. Any fake contradictions are based upon misinterpretations, usually blatant, including taking passages out of context off red distorting usually clear meaning. In other words, lying about it. I will grant that some scriptures are more difficult to understand than others (apocalyptic literature, parables, poetry, etc) but they can be understood to some extent if approached honestly and with humility.
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It might be generally accepted that fascism & Nazism are ideas of the right but it's a lie. There are a lot of lies that are generally accepted: Hunter's laptop, Russiagate, the ludicrous idea that socialism works, the climate cult (no, we are not destroying the planet), the trans cult (a man cannot become a woman, ever), "Trump is literally Hitler" (Hitler has been dead 80 years), every time a Leftist labels Trump or his supporters a fascist, and many more examples.
It's not a lie, and its a generally accepted by scholars as being far to the right at the other end of the political spectrum. Communism and to a lesser extent socialism are to the far left. democracy, in its various forms, and capitalism fall between those extremes. The rest of your statement is a Red Herring and has nothing to do with facism, or socialism per se. To the extent they are true, false, or partially, they have no bearing on cultural and political ideaologies.
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You continue making the false argument that the Nazis were Christian's. No they weren't. That lie has already been debunked but Leftists arrogantly stick with their lies no matter how absurd or how much contrary to the facts. Ironically, that is a common characteristic of genuine fascism which makes sense because it is an ideology of the Left.
It's not a leftist or rightist issue. The fact is Germany was overwhelming made up of Christians. It was their country, their leader and their responsibility. Your persistent idea that facism is an ideology of the left, is not factual, and is not supported by any credible authorities, and is an example of how deep you're mired in your alternate reality. Facism is an authoritarian, anti-egalitarian political ideology at the far right of the political spectrum.
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To be honest, it's easy and naturally for people to turn a blind eye to evils in their midst. Whether it's the crimes of the Nazis, the crimes of the Bolsheviks (or any other communist regime), Apartheid, the crimes of antifa, the covid & vax hoaxes, abortion in demand, the trans cult, or many other example from history. It takes courage to do the right thing and stand up to evil. Few people have the courage of a Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Dietrich Boenhoefer, Rosa Parks, MLK, Raul Wallenberg, Charlie Kirk, etc. That courage is what makes them real heroes.
On this statement we're in general agreement, although I'm not sure what you mean by covid and vax hoaxes. Covid is real, it's not a hoax, and vaccines genarally are effective to various degrees, and are not hoaxes. Most of those poeple you listed, morally stood up against atrocities and wrong doing, possibly motivated by their religious beliefs. Why do you think Christians at large turned a blind eye to evil?
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I will always take God's word over the contradictions of foolish philosophies and arrogance. Scripture, on the other hand, is always accurate 100% of the time and has repeatedly been proven so for centuries. Any fake contradictions are based upon misinterpretations, usually blatant, including taking passages out of context off red distorting usually clear meaning. In other words, lying about it. I will grant that some scriptures are more difficult to understand than others (apocalyptic literature, parables, poetry, etc) but they can be understood to some extent if approached honestly and with humility.
The problem with this statement is that "God's word," be it the Judeo/Christian/Muslim gods, or some other god is clearly written, altered, amended, and compiled over time by various and numerous ancient and prmitive (by our standards) men with a theological/political agenda, in part as an effort to control, and bring meaning and order to their cultures. The Jewish tradition and origins of the god they claim to follow has origins, attributes, and characteristics drawn from ancient Midianite, Edomite, and Canaanite cultural gods that predate them. If by scripture, you are referring to the OT and NT, those documents are full of cantradictions and inaccuracies (many between surviving fragements of texts) that have been abundantly documented by scholars. And, those just happen to be the surviving iterations of those texts, among many nonsurviving versions and/or other alternate texts that were either destroyed, not preserved, or hidden away by the early Catholic Church in favor of their evolving theological doctrine. Even the Religion Department at Baylor acknowledges and teaches this. Fundamentalists often take Old Testament texts out of context to distort the meaning in order to shoe-horn support for a false idea or claim about what they want to believe. If you approach these more or less ancient texts with honesty and humility, you have to acknowledge them for what they are - compilations of ancient and primitive beliefs and lore that evolved, and have been handed down through time.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
