Is Islam a political ideology of conquest more than a religion?

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J.R. said:

I'm in no way an expert on Islam, though one of my besties is Muslim (muslim lite as she says). Just a quick one relative to my Muslim experience this week. I have been in Thailand for a while and was on the southern tip of o Lanta (far South Island) which is significantly Muslim. The ladies I run into, beit,, hotel, food stalls were the nicest, kindest people I have been around. Again,, don't know if it is regional, cultural or what. most all were Thai.


Good for you.

Safe travels .
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Courtesy Lorri Nells on Facebook:

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races.
Last month I attended a training. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.
After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:
'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, " Nonbelievers"
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'
The Muslim was speechless.
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:
Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
You could have heard a pin drop.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the US. to elect the President.
I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference.
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
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Assassin said:

Courtesy Lorri Nells on Facebook:

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races.
Last month I attended a training. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.
After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:
'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, " Nonbelievers"
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'
He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'
The Muslim was speechless.
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:
Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
You could have heard a pin drop.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the US. to elect the President.
I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference.


I don't agree with eventing in this video, but there is a lot of undeniable truth in it.



TexasScientist
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ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.
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Assassin
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
TexasScientist
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
Assassin
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TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.

Dude, you are anything but a Critical Thinker. More of a Stinker Thinker, much like that outhouse pictures about the toilet in people's home
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
ShooterTX
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.

TexasScientist
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ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.



That's a loaded statement, and conflicts with different passages. You realize there are multiple gods in the OT that tends to change over time from henotheistic to monotheistic. The origin is a compilation of ancient gods, and the character of the Jewish god and later Christian god changes through time. There is extensive scholarship on the subject.
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TexasScientist
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.

Dude, you are anything but a Critical Thinker. More of a Stinker Thinker, much like that outhouse pictures about the toilet in people's home

And I guess you think you reflect the character of Christ no doubt.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
ShooterTX
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.



That's a loaded statement, and conflicts with different passages. You realize there are multiple gods in the OT that tends to change over time from henotheistic to monotheistic. The origin is a compilation of ancient gods, and the character of the Jewish god and later Christian god changes through time. There is extensive scholarship on the subject.


You are completely wrong.

Your "extensive scholarship" is worthless, if that is the conclusion.
Assassin
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TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.

Dude, you are anything but a Critical Thinker. More of a Stinker Thinker, much like that outhouse pictures about the toilet in people's home

And I guess you think you reflect the character of Christ no doubt.

I've stated here MANY times that I am a lousy Christian, but I keep going to church.

You, on the other hand, have nothing. You believe in nothing. You lack substance.
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
TexasScientist
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ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.



That's a loaded statement, and conflicts with different passages. You realize there are multiple gods in the OT that tends to change over time from henotheistic to monotheistic. The origin is a compilation of ancient gods, and the character of the Jewish god and later Christian god changes through time. There is extensive scholarship on the subject.


You are completely wrong.

Your "extensive scholarship" is worthless, if that is the conclusion.


Not my scholarship. Read up on it. There is a lot of work on the sources and origins of he Judeo/Christian/Islamic god. You'll be enlightened.
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TexasScientist
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.

Dude, you are anything but a Critical Thinker. More of a Stinker Thinker, much like that outhouse pictures about the toilet in people's home

And I guess you think you reflect the character of Christ no doubt.

I've stated here MANY times that I am a lousy Christian, but I keep going to church.

You, on the other hand, have nothing. You believe in nothing. You lack substance.

I realize there are a lot of versions of Christianity, but which version of Christianity rewards you for going to church?

I believe in the evidence or reality. Reality is substance.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
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Redbrickbear said:



Many scholars believe Islam was an offshoot of the Christian community that developed in Jerusalem.
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TexasScientist said:

Redbrickbear said:



Many scholars believe Islam was an offshoot of the Christian community that developed in Jerusalem.


Yep

Very possible Islam started as heretical offshoot of Christianity (and Judaism) in the Arabian peninsula.

This new Arab centric movement taking various aspects of Judaism, Christianity, pagan Arab-Meccan religion, and Zoroastrianism (faith of Persia) that it liked… and blending them together into a new religion.

[Mohammed's followers belonged to the "Believers' movement" a coalition of pious monotheists drawn from western Arabia's monotheists, followers of Christianity and Judaism, according to historians such as Fred Donner.
It is clear that the Qur'an addressed people who were already very familiar with the Jewish and Christian faiths and scriptures]
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TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.

Did you actually go to Baylor? None of your posts indicate higher learning

Yes, that's where I continued to learn critical thinking, about science and other important skills in comprehending reality. If you have time, you should consider a formal education.

Dude, you are anything but a Critical Thinker. More of a Stinker Thinker, much like that outhouse pictures about the toilet in people's home

And I guess you think you reflect the character of Christ no doubt.

I've stated here MANY times that I am a lousy Christian, but I keep going to church.

You, on the other hand, have nothing. You believe in nothing. You lack substance.

I realize there are a lot of versions of Christianity, but which version of Christianity rewards you for going to church?

I believe in the evidence or reality. Reality is substance.

So here you are still, in an argument that you cannot possibly win. Alienating yourself even more from other Baylor students and grads.

Still feeling peppy?
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ShooterTX
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.



That's a loaded statement, and conflicts with different passages. You realize there are multiple gods in the OT that tends to change over time from henotheistic to monotheistic. The origin is a compilation of ancient gods, and the character of the Jewish god and later Christian god changes through time. There is extensive scholarship on the subject.


You are completely wrong.

Your "extensive scholarship" is worthless, if that is the conclusion.


Not my scholarship. Read up on it. There is a lot of work on the sources and origins of he Judeo/Christian/Islamic god. You'll be enlightened.

you really don't understand.

Yes, they try to claim that Allah is the same as the God of the Bible. However Allah is an evil trickster who seems to delight in lying and tricking his own prophet. Allah also never gives his followers any hope or peace of salvation.
There are many other characteristics of Allah that prove he is nothing like the God of the Bible.

The mormons also claim to worship the God of the Bible, and then they teach that he is just a guy who lived well enough to earn godship and has a ton of celestial wives on a planet near Kolob.

Just because someone claims to worship the God of the Bible... and just because a bunch of atheists agree with them... it doesn't mean anything at all.

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ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

historian said:

It's a demonic cult of death

Funny you recognize one cult, but not another.

The Texas scientists?

Look up the definition of a cult, it'll help you out.

Right, the Texas Scientists. That's the cult I was thinking of. Irrational hate of Christianity. Oblivious to the Word of God. Lovers of Islam.

The word is that they prey to Mecca six times a day

^^^ Ignorance is your trademark.

But you are right to the extent Islam and Christianity are cults. Since Islam and Christianity have the same god, and claim his devine word, you're in a real conundrum. Reciting the Lord's Prayer six times a day may help you.

We do not pay to the same God. Islam tries to claim that. Christianity does not.
The god of Islam is just Satan in disguise. The god of Islam is NOTHING like the one true God of the Bible.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Islam is correct, just like Baptists' claims to the same god of the Jews. Christianity hitched a ride on the coattails of Judaism, because it is an offshoot of Judaism. The main Jewish god is a composite of gods from Canaan and the surrounding regions, especially El and Yahweh. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll clear you up on that.


I have studied the Koran and the Hadith extensively.
The god of Islam is not even close to the one true God of the Bible.
I'm not surprised that a god-less atheist would be so easily deceived by muslims.



That's a loaded statement, and conflicts with different passages. You realize there are multiple gods in the OT that tends to change over time from henotheistic to monotheistic. The origin is a compilation of ancient gods, and the character of the Jewish god and later Christian god changes through time. There is extensive scholarship on the subject.


You are completely wrong.

Your "extensive scholarship" is worthless, if that is the conclusion.


Not my scholarship. Read up on it. There is a lot of work on the sources and origins of he Judeo/Christian/Islamic god. You'll be enlightened.

you really don't understand.

Yes, they try to claim that Allah is the same as the God of the Bible. However Allah is an evil trickster who seems to delight in lying and tricking his own prophet. Allah also never gives his followers any hope or peace of salvation.
There are many other characteristics of Allah that prove he is nothing like the God of the Bible.

The mormons also claim to worship the God of the Bible, and then they teach that he is just a guy who lived well enough to earn godship and has a ton of celestial wives on a planet near Kolob.

Just because someone claims to worship the God of the Bible... and just because a bunch of atheists agree with them... it doesn't mean anything at all.



You're kidding. The OT is full of tricks, deception, and tests Yahweh foisted upon various Jewish patriarchs. Abraham, Job, Hezakiah, Moses, Gideon, Ahab, and Pharaoh to name a few.

Uhhh, I think it means they worship the god of the Bible - you know, the god of Abraham.
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Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.
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Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

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Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.


No kidding.
Texas anti-scientist is the epitome of atheism. Nothing to live for. No purpose in life. No reason to try and be better. Just a sad, pointless troll who wants to tear down anything that is good.

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ShooterTX said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.

No kidding.
Texas anti-scientist is the epitome of atheism. Nothing to live for. No purpose in life. No reason to try and be better. Just a sad, pointless troll who wants to tear down anything that is good.

Hard to argue with that. Maybe Jesus will take him under his wing as TS reflects on fading into nothing at the end of his years
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.

I should have known you were aligned with the likes of Enrique Tarrio and Elmer Rhodes. Their Rhetoric is no different than Don Lemon's (maybe worse). You're so blind, you can't see that there is a fine line that separates the far left from the far right. Horseshoe Theory is something you should look into. It would help explain your extremist views and affinity for an autocracy.

I follow media that adheres to standards. I get the evidence of reality.
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TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.

I should have known you were aligned with the likes of Enrique Tarrio and Elmer Rhodes. Their Rhetoric is no different than Don Lemon's (maybe worse). You're so blind, you can't see that there is a fine line that separates the far left from the far right. Horseshoe Theory is something you should look into. It would help explain your extremist views and affinity for an autocracy.

I follow media that adheres to standards. I get the evidence of reality.

Billions of people in unison say "Sucka!" You are susceptible to being a Legacy Media sheep. Wolves all around and you are simply walking meat. They are gonna descend on you sooner or later and you want to take as many other sheep down as you can. Luckily, you're not going to do that on this forum. You're gonna get called out over and over, by numerous posters.
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ShooterTX said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.


No kidding.
Texas anti-scientist is the epitome of atheism. Nothing to live for. No purpose in life. No reason to try and be better. Just a sad, pointless troll who wants to tear down anything that is good.



On the contrary, I have more purpose and more to live for than you. I have every reason to be a better person, because I have a real appreciation for the value of life and others, and the amazing opportunity to experience a conscious life in a hostile universe. As opposed to you, you have no reason to be a better person because you think you can say anything, do anything, ask for forgiveness and go your merry way. You believe you are superior to others, because you've been trained to believe you have an inside track to a higher knowledge, power, and afterlife - a belief that is nothing more than progressive refinement over the years of primitive peoples ignorant attempts to understand reality, and cope with their mortality.
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.


No kidding.
Texas anti-scientist is the epitome of atheism. Nothing to live for. No purpose in life. No reason to try and be better. Just a sad, pointless troll who wants to tear down anything that is good.

On the contrary, I have more purpose and more to live for than you. I have every reason to be a better person, because I have a real appreciation for the value of life and others, and the amazing opportunity to experience a conscious life in a hostile universe. As opposed to you, you have no reason to be a better person because you think you can say anything, do anything, ask for forgiveness and go your merry way. You believe you are superior to others, because you've been trained to believe you have an inside track to a higher knowledge, power, and afterlife - a belief that is nothing more than progressive refinement over the years of primitive peoples ignorant attempts to understand reality, and cope with their mortality.

This is why you are nothing more than a Troll, just like he said. At the end of your life, as they drop you in the ground, the choir will sing "All dressed up, no place to go!"
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.

I should have known you were aligned with the likes of Enrique Tarrio and Elmer Rhodes. Their Rhetoric is no different than Don Lemon's (maybe worse). You're so blind, you can't see that there is a fine line that separates the far left from the far right. Horseshoe Theory is something you should look into. It would help explain your extremist views and affinity for an autocracy.

I follow media that adheres to standards. I get the evidence of reality.

Billions of people in unison say "Sucka!" You are susceptible to being a Legacy Media sheep. Wolves all around and you are simply walking meat. They are gonna descend on you sooner or later and you want to take as many other sheep down as you can. Luckily, you're not going to do that on this forum. You're gonna get called out over and over, by numerous posters.


That's an incoherent rant. You're starting to sound like your dear leader Trump. You should get an MRI like he did to see if there is an identifiable cause.
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TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.

I should have known you were aligned with the likes of Enrique Tarrio and Elmer Rhodes. Their Rhetoric is no different than Don Lemon's (maybe worse). You're so blind, you can't see that there is a fine line that separates the far left from the far right. Horseshoe Theory is something you should look into. It would help explain your extremist views and affinity for an autocracy.

I follow media that adheres to standards. I get the evidence of reality.

Billions of people in unison say "Sucka!" You are susceptible to being a Legacy Media sheep. Wolves all around and you are simply walking meat. They are gonna descend on you sooner or later and you want to take as many other sheep down as you can. Luckily, you're not going to do that on this forum. You're gonna get called out over and over, by numerous posters.


That's an incoherent rant. You're starting to sound like your dear leader Trump. You should get an MRI like he did to see if there is an identifiable cause.

Not sure why you would come on a forum from a Baptist school where the posters are probably 98-99% Christian and continue to ooze out your atheist blarney. A forum where 98-99% of the posters are inherently smarter than you and you keep sinking in more ooze.

Anyway, I am done with you.
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Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

Assassin said:

TexasScientist said:

Assassin said:



Sounds a lot like what your Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and other far right extremists advocate.

Sad state of affairs.

You are more corrupt than I thought. Proud Boys have never killed anyone in their political fight, after all these years. And guess what, Oath Keepers haven't either.

You buy what you have been told by the Legacy Media. Just like the Christians in Germany, just like your hate of God. You just don't get it.


No kidding.
Texas anti-scientist is the epitome of atheism. Nothing to live for. No purpose in life. No reason to try and be better. Just a sad, pointless troll who wants to tear down anything that is good.

On the contrary, I have more purpose and more to live for than you. I have every reason to be a better person, because I have a real appreciation for the value of life and others, and the amazing opportunity to experience a conscious life in a hostile universe. As opposed to you, you have no reason to be a better person because you think you can say anything, do anything, ask for forgiveness and go your merry way. You believe you are superior to others, because you've been trained to believe you have an inside track to a higher knowledge, power, and afterlife - a belief that is nothing more than progressive refinement over the years of primitive peoples ignorant attempts to understand reality, and cope with their mortality.

This is why you are nothing more than a Troll, just like he said. At the end of your life, as they drop you in the ground, the choir will sing "All dressed up, no place to go!"

I go right back to where I came from, just like you - star dust. I choose to accept reality and live in reality. You choose to live in illusion, fiction, and fantasy.
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The Somalis seem like the Palestinians of Africa.
 
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