Which tears taste better?

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KaiBear said:

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You know if you look closely, Biden is pretty darn close to Nikita Kruschchev's older brother


Whatever illusions Biden possessed in regards to his presidential legacy ;

were totally destroyed by Trumps electoral landslide.

Very possible Biden will go down as the worst US president since Grant.
Cant be worse than Jimmy Carter... he was the biggest mess in US history!
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Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

You know if you look closely, Biden is pretty darn close to Nikita Kruschchev's older brother


Whatever illusions Biden possessed in regards to his presidential legacy ;

were totally destroyed by Trumps electoral landslide.

Very possible Biden will go down as the worst US president since Grant.
Cant be worse than Jimmy Carter... he was the biggest mess in US history!


For many years regarded Jimmy Carter to be the worst president in my lifetime.

Till Joe Biden came along.
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KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

You know if you look closely, Biden is pretty darn close to Nikita Kruschchev's older brother
Whatever illusions Biden possessed in regards to his presidential legacy ;

were totally destroyed by Trumps electoral landslide.

Very possible Biden will go down as the worst US president since Grant.
Cant be worse than Jimmy Carter... he was the biggest mess in US history!
For many years regarded Jimmy Carter to be the worst president in my lifetime.

Till Joe Biden came along.
I think Biden's biggest issue was always mental clarity. He just seemed to be out of it during his entire tenure. He seemed to let the far left of the DNC do whatever they wanted.
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KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

You know if you look closely, Biden is pretty darn close to Nikita Kruschchev's older brother


Whatever illusions Biden possessed in regards to his presidential legacy ;

were totally destroyed by Trumps electoral landslide.

Very possible Biden will go down as the worst US president since Grant.
Cant be worse than Jimmy Carter... he was the biggest mess in US history!


For many years regarded Jimmy Carter to be the worst president in my lifetime.

Till Joe Biden came along.
Amen Brother. Biden has been totally worthless. Jimmy Carter can leave this world knowing he was not the worst President in the history of our country.

Pissing on Biden's grave is on the top five of my bucket list.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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rypry said:

Slow clap. It's too easy with y'all.
fascinating

Putting that degree in ethnic studies or sociology to work in this thread
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Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

You know if you look closely, Biden is pretty darn close to Nikita Kruschchev's older brother
Whatever illusions Biden possessed in regards to his presidential legacy ;

were totally destroyed by Trumps electoral landslide.

Very possible Biden will go down as the worst US president since Grant.
Cant be worse than Jimmy Carter... he was the biggest mess in US history!
For many years regarded Jimmy Carter to be the worst president in my lifetime.

Till Joe Biden came along.
I think Biden's biggest issue was always mental clarity. He just seemed to be out of it during his entire tenure. He seemed to let the far left of the DNC do whatever they wanted.

Dementia Joe has been totally controlled by far left handlers going back to his 2020 campaign and has been nothing more than a figure head sock puppet of those radicals throughout his miserable presidency. He can't vacate the White House fast enough.
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Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.
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rypry said:

Enjoy your Hitler and your misery. Google Lacanian psychoanalysis.
I will. The fun part is, you will too.
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rypry said:

Slow clap. It's too easy with y'all.
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Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.
I have a hysterical far-left cousin who decided to send out a mass text to family saying she has written us off because of our support for Trump. Said we are now complicit with racism, rape, and the murder of women and that she would never speak with us again. And she said it in the most vile way possible, despite the fact she had a few 80-something great aunts on the text string who I am sure heads were spinning with her language.

Funny thing is, nobody responded. While I feel for her, as she's mentally ill, it's not much of a loss.
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Mothra said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.
I have a hysterical far-left cousin who decided to send out a mass text to family saying she has written us off because of our support for Trump. Said we are now complicit with racism, rape, and the murder of women and that she would never speak with us again. And she said it in the most vile way possible, despite the fact she had a few 80-something great aunts on the text string who I am sure heads were spinning with her language.

Funny thing is, nobody responded. While I feel for her, as she's mentally ill, it's not much of a loss.
the cold shoulder to an attention seeking individual is powerful.
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You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
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rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Just curious. You planning on going to heaven?
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rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
in your opinion, do those with unrepentant sin, regardless of what that sin is, get into heaven?

Yes, I know we all stumble and sin but,( let's use the stereotypical used car salesman ) if I knowingly lie, repeatedly, because it helps me make a good living for my family and I've no intention of changing, is that non-repentant liar going to heaven?

If I provide for my kids and wife, believe the gospel but, I enjoy getting a little on the side during business trips (no harm/no foul) and I have no intention of changing. Am I going to heaven if I die stepping out of the shower one morning?

Cut to the chase. Is being a non-repentant "practicing" member of the homosexual community sinful. Does that individual need to repent of that sin to go to heaven?
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historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
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rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
bless your heart
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The MSM the Joseph Goebbels's of modern totalitarians. They use the same techniques.
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rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?



Those scholars should be locked up for their role in promoting child abusers. At the very least, they should be investigated to see what felonies they might have committed. How many of them are pedos themselves? How many have played a role in sex trafficking? If so, they are also guilty of slavery. I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are guilty of one or more of the above.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?


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historian said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?



Those scholars should be locked up for their role in promoting child abusers. At the very least, they should be investigated to see what felonies they might have committed. How many of them are pedos themselves? How many have played a role in sex trafficking? If so, they are also guilty of slavery. I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are guilty of one or more of the above.
For the record, I have posted here myriad times that pedophilia will be normalized by 2030. Maybe not completely but we will be at the same level of the trans debate today.
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Porteroso said:

historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
While literally you're correct, it is an over-simplification.

But it is hard to deny the level of planned disinformation engaged in by the left-wing, legacy media to influence elections in 2020 and 2024 may be unprecedented in American history. While not fully controlled by the government, the collusion and alignment poses a real threat to democracy and has lead to unprecedented division in the country. Most of what the LWNJ believe about Trump is complete disinformation. So on one hand, I think their intolerance and hate is problematic, I also have sympathy for all the lies and disinformation they have been sold.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

historian said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?



Those scholars should be locked up for their role in promoting child abusers. At the very least, they should be investigated to see what felonies they might have committed. How many of them are pedos themselves? How many have played a role in sex trafficking? If so, they are also guilty of slavery. I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are guilty of one or more of the above.
For the record, I have posted here myriad times that pedophilia will be normalized by 2030. Maybe not completely but we will be at the same level of the trans debate today.

For some fascists, it already is normalized. I would like to think most Americans have not gone that far.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

historian said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?



Those scholars should be locked up for their role in promoting child abusers. At the very least, they should be investigated to see what felonies they might have committed. How many of them are pedos themselves? How many have played a role in sex trafficking? If so, they are also guilty of slavery. I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are guilty of one or more of the above.
For the record, I have posted here myriad times that pedophilia will be normalized by 2030. Maybe not completely but we will be at the same level of the trans debate today.
sadly, I think you are correct
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historian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

historian said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

rypry said:

You all do realize that in Biblical terms everyone is this weird "religion" forum confirming their prejudices are… the Pharisees (and those who use their religion as a weapon against the vulnerable), right? The "brood of vipers" as Jesus would say. "How can you speak good things when you are evil?" A tree is known by its fruit, and all of y'all are pretty rotten. Praying for y'all's salvation.
Friends of yours? Do they get their own Sunday school class?



Those scholars should be locked up for their role in promoting child abusers. At the very least, they should be investigated to see what felonies they might have committed. How many of them are pedos themselves? How many have played a role in sex trafficking? If so, they are also guilty of slavery. I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are guilty of one or more of the above.
For the record, I have posted here myriad times that pedophilia will be normalized by 2030. Maybe not completely but we will be at the same level of the trans debate today.

For some fascists, it already is normalized. I would like to think most Americans have not gone that far.
I'll remind you that five years ago, if I had told you that any dude could declare himself a woman and then compete in women's sports and use women's locker rooms, you would have told me I was crazy.

Not sure how accurate, but I heard a couple of commentators state that polls showed that some Democrat positions were so crazy and extreme that folks who did not pay attention all the time did not actually believe a U.S. political party would have such crazy views.
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historian said:

The MSM the Joseph Goebbels's of modern totalitarians. They use the same techniques.

That is not accurate. Do you really pay enough attention to say CNN's news output to know yourself? I doubt it. You are just regurgitating a narrative.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
While literally you're correct, it is an over-simplification.

But it is hard to deny the level of planned disinformation engaged in by the left-wing, legacy media to influence elections in 2020 and 2024 may be unprecedented in American history. While not fully controlled by the government, the collusion and alignment poses a real threat to democracy and has lead to unprecedented division in the country. Most of what the LWNJ believe about Trump is complete disinformation. So on one hand, I think their intolerance and hate is problematic, I also have sympathy for all the lies and disinformation they have been sold.

I only applied historians "logic" to the post I replied to.

I think it is not a problem to have biased news sources, but given the decline of American education critical thinking, the real issue is opinion masquerading as fact and news. Whether these people are telling you what to think about the facts, or telling the facts themselves, is at all times unclear. It can certainly be cleaned up. They should imo be responsible for labeling any segment of their show opinion, when not reporting facts. Same way the paper would have opinion columns, and editorials.
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Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
While literally you're correct, it is an over-simplification.

But it is hard to deny the level of planned disinformation engaged in by the left-wing, legacy media to influence elections in 2020 and 2024 may be unprecedented in American history. While not fully controlled by the government, the collusion and alignment poses a real threat to democracy and has lead to unprecedented division in the country. Most of what the LWNJ believe about Trump is complete disinformation. So on one hand, I think their intolerance and hate is problematic, I also have sympathy for all the lies and disinformation they have been sold.

I only applied historians "logic" to the post I replied to.

I think it is not a problem to have biased news sources, but given the decline of American education critical thinking, the real issue is opinion masquerading as fact and news. Whether these people are telling you what to think about the facts, or telling the facts themselves, is at all times unclear. It can certainly be cleaned up. They should imo be responsible for labeling any segment of their show opinion, when not reporting facts. Same way the paper would have opinion columns, and editorials.
It is not an issue of news or opinion. The issue is the legacy media intentionally parroting disinformation as "news." That is where historian is correct - the legacy media has been parroting regime propaganda masquerading as news since Trump was elected the first time.

I think that is behind a decent amount of the LWNJ hysterics - they actually believe the disinformation they have been fed by the regime.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
While literally you're correct, it is an over-simplification.

But it is hard to deny the level of planned disinformation engaged in by the left-wing, legacy media to influence elections in 2020 and 2024 may be unprecedented in American history. While not fully controlled by the government, the collusion and alignment poses a real threat to democracy and has lead to unprecedented division in the country. Most of what the LWNJ believe about Trump is complete disinformation. So on one hand, I think their intolerance and hate is problematic, I also have sympathy for all the lies and disinformation they have been sold.

I only applied historians "logic" to the post I replied to.

I think it is not a problem to have biased news sources, but given the decline of American education critical thinking, the real issue is opinion masquerading as fact and news. Whether these people are telling you what to think about the facts, or telling the facts themselves, is at all times unclear. It can certainly be cleaned up. They should imo be responsible for labeling any segment of their show opinion, when not reporting facts. Same way the paper would have opinion columns, and editorials.
It is not an issue of news or opinion. The issue is the legacy media intentionally parroting disinformation as "news." That is where historian is correct - the legacy media has been parroting regime propaganda masquerading as news since Trump was elected the first time.

I think that is behind a decent amount of the LWNJ hysterics - they actually believe the disinformation they have been fed by the regime.

What one person calls disinformation is another person's opinion. Certainly you don't want Trump running a Ministry of Truth? I do think it is an issue of people thinking they have facts, when they actually have an interpretation of facts, or worse, an opinion about the facts. You and I totally disagree.
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Actually, I have observed MSM using the tactics of Goebbels for 40+ years. I have done some historical research into Nazi propaganda, spending a few months in Berlin for that purpose.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

Porteroso said:

I have to say, the tears are just sad this time. A friend reposted a post saying fascism and rape are the new normal. She is actually afraid. I feel bad for her. It is not entirely her fault- she simply listened to the "news." Nobody in America should live in that much fear.

That's one of the primary propaganda tactics of totalitarians: instill fear, even paranoia to keep the sheep compliant. It often works.

To call the legacy media totalitarians is a pretty big miss, and exactly what you are pretending to criticize. Overly simplifying complex politics into good v evil is also a totalitarian move, no?
While literally you're correct, it is an over-simplification.

But it is hard to deny the level of planned disinformation engaged in by the left-wing, legacy media to influence elections in 2020 and 2024 may be unprecedented in American history. While not fully controlled by the government, the collusion and alignment poses a real threat to democracy and has lead to unprecedented division in the country. Most of what the LWNJ believe about Trump is complete disinformation. So on one hand, I think their intolerance and hate is problematic, I also have sympathy for all the lies and disinformation they have been sold.

I only applied historians "logic" to the post I replied to.

I think it is not a problem to have biased news sources, but given the decline of American education critical thinking, the real issue is opinion masquerading as fact and news. Whether these people are telling you what to think about the facts, or telling the facts themselves, is at all times unclear. It can certainly be cleaned up. They should imo be responsible for labeling any segment of their show opinion, when not reporting facts. Same way the paper would have opinion columns, and editorials.
It is not an issue of news or opinion. The issue is the legacy media intentionally parroting disinformation as "news." That is where historian is correct - the legacy media has been parroting regime propaganda masquerading as news since Trump was elected the first time.

I think that is behind a decent amount of the LWNJ hysterics - they actually believe the disinformation they have been fed by the regime.

The legacy media has been regurgitating the party line for decades. Only it's more obvious now as they don't try to pretend otherwise. Anyone who regularly listened to Rush Limbaugh a few years ago will remember his montages of the media "reporting" on an event: they all used the exact some descriptive phrase. It was almost as if there was an agreement on exactly how to spin a narrative with no pretense at objectivity or real journalism. Most of their tactics are more subtle but they are often clear when one looks for it.
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There are lots of opinions out there masquerading as facts. Both sides do it all the time. It's human nature. But the Left has a monopoly on presenting blatant lies as facts. They cannot honestly define a woman and anyone who disagrees with them is a racist or misogynist. These are two of the most obvious examples, but there are dozens more every day. Every time I see any amount of CNN, MSNBC, etc it includes examples. It's their normal modus operandi.
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rypry said:

Enjoy your Hitler and your misery. Google Lacanian psychoanalysis.
I have read Lacan's work. It's academic charlatanism. Psychoanalysis in general, and not just Lacan's version of it, is today seen by most psychologists/psychiatrists as a dead end or even a fraud for purposes of therapy or scientific research.

Even if his works were academically rigorous and intelligible, it's funny that you think someone can learn a psychological/philosophical system by "Googling" it.
You might need some therapy if you think the party that defended the Jews from violent Democrat party constituents on American campuses is about to carry out a genocide against them.
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historian said:

Actually, I have observed MSM using the tactics of Goebbels for 40+ years. I have done some historical research into Nazi propaganda, spending a few months in Berlin for that purpose.
What tactics? Stoking fear is not a Goebbels tactic, it's normal for politics everywhere for all of time. Having a monopoly on information is not a Goebbels tactic. In a free market, it means people voted for that with their wallets. And I would not say CNN/MSNBC enjoy a lack of competition. More watch Fox News than either.
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Porteroso said:

historian said:

Actually, I have observed MSM using the tactics of Goebbels for 40+ years. I have done some historical research into Nazi propaganda, spending a few months in Berlin for that purpose.
What tactics? Stoking fear is not a Goebbels tactic, it's normal for politics everywhere for all of time. Having a monopoly on information is not a Goebbels tactic. In a free market, it means people voted for that with their wallets. And I would not say CNN/MSNBC enjoy a lack of competition. More watch Fox News than either.

I'm not trying to speak for Historian, but an obvious example is the MSM's constant use of the Goebbels "Big Lie" tactic - such as virtually in unison repeating over and over that Trump is Hitler and his supporters are Nazis. It's clearly a total lie if anyone is even somewhat historically informed, but enough of the "masses" have bought it (as Goebbels sadly predicted roughly 90 years ago) that relationships are now ending and family members are becoming estranged over it. It's despicable and shameful.
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