https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-trump-promises-a-25-per-cent-tariff-on-products-from-mexico-canada/

https://www.euronews.com/2024/11/04/trump-promises-high-tariffs-to-mexico-unless-illegal-immigration-stops

boognish_bear said:

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— IAmSilky (@IAmVerySilky) November 25, 2024

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Love it.

This is one reason he is doing this, Fentynal coming in from both North and South. Cartels are making billions and funding as many liberal politicians as possible. Hopefully Trump makes all of them public, Canada, Mexico and especially the USA

Overall, drug overdose deaths rose from 2019 to 2022 with 107,941 drug overdose deaths reported in 2022. Deaths involving synthetic opioids other than methadone (primarily illicitly manufactured fentanyl) continued to rise with 73,838 overdose deaths reported in 2022.

KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a weak dementia stricken Obama puppet.

Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.

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Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

The real danger is from the Mexican drug cartels. They could activate assassination squads already present in the US to kill dozens of our political leadership.

KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.

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Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

The real danger is from the Mexican drug cartels. They could activate assassination squads already present in the US to kill dozens of our political leadership.

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Doesn't Mexico and the US know where these cartel *******s live. Give Mexico a few months to go scorched earth on the cartels, and if they fail, bomb every mansion owned by every one of the *******s.

KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.

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Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

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Exactly

Mexico and Canada are dependent on the American economy and the American consumer

They will capitulate

They have no other choice

Proud 1992 Alum said:

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KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.

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Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

The real danger is from the Mexican drug cartels. They could activate assassination squads already present in the US to kill dozens of our political leadership.

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Doesn't Mexico and the US know where these cartel *******s live. Give Mexico a few months to go scorched earth on the cartels, and if they fail, bomb every mansion owned by every one of the *******s.

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The drug cartels already go scorched earth in Mexico.
They kill almost anyone who gets in their way.

Thank God Trump won this election as we were on the verge of allowing the various drug cartels an unassailable perch in American cities.

But even now there are going to be some casualties rooting them out.

Proud 1992 Alum said:

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KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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According to a couple of Border Patrol agents I met in 2018 along the Border Wall in southern New Mexico......
Trump threatened a 5% tariff against Mexican imports if they didn't stop illegals in Mexico from even approaching the Wall.

The Border Patrol agents then pointed out a Mexican federal army trooper with full body armor and an automatic rifle walking along the Mexican side of the Wall.

Trump's threat had obviously made an impact.

( took a few pictures of the Mexican trooper to show my family )

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This is why I believe what will ultimately happen is Mexico and Canada will both suddenly start caring about cracking down on illegals traversing their country to get into the USA as well as the fentanyl traffic - which will result in the tariffs either never being actually imposed or not lasting long at all. They know they're no longer dealing with a dementia stricken Obama puppet.

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Our media will have a ****……but such tariffs would devastate the economies of both Mexico and Canada.

The real danger is from the Mexican drug cartels. They could activate assassination squads already present in the US to kill dozens of our political leadership.

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Doesn't Mexico and the US know where these cartel *******s live. Give Mexico a few months to go scorched earth on the cartels, and if they fail, bomb every mansion owned by every one of the *******s.

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Mexican government is probably to corrupt for that

But Trump might do what no other U.S. president has done and take off the gloves in our armed forces dealing with them (if covertly)

Also some evidence the cartels are now scared and moving away from fentanyl…looks like several of the Cartels are now dealing out the death sentence for dealing fentanyl

Sinaloa cartel in Mexico: stop killing our customers with fentanyl or your life will be in question. Why did it take so long for them to use common sense?https://t.co/PY1g9itL3E https://t.co/nwTDt1BW52

— Special Situations 🌐 Research Newsletter (Jay) (@SpecialSitsNews) November 25, 2024

We need to designate the major cartels as terrorist organizations. Opens up a lot of options to disrupt their business operations.

Proud 1992 Alum said:

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We need to designate the major cartels as terrorist organizations. Opens up a lot of options to disrupt their business operations.

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Trump just might do that

He also might just send in special forces and dare Mexico to say something (which they won't dare do)

🔥 Special Forces Vet. Evan Hafer & Joe Rogan on Trump Declaring War on the Cartels: 'It Is Going to Get Wild Come January 20th'

"If we declare war on the cartel, these dudes are not gonna understand what the f*ck is going on. They are in for a world of ultra-violence they've… pic.twitter.com/lUp0onVgRr

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) November 19, 2024

"Our past experience shows that great prosperity in this country has always come under a protective tariff."

— President Teddy Roosevelt, 1902

But wait, there's more. 👇 pic.twitter.com/XfeW9HW8ej

— Joshua Lisec, Ghostwriter (@JoshuaLisec) November 26, 2024

"The well-being of the wage-worker ... should be treated as an essential in shaping our whole economic policy. There must never be any change which will jeopardize the standard of comfort, the standard of wages of the American wage-worker."

— Roosevelt, 1902 pic.twitter.com/67nAx77Ow0

— Joshua Lisec, Ghostwriter (@JoshuaLisec) November 26, 2024

"[Tariffs are] for the protection and encouragement of American industry so as to secure higher wages and better conditions of life for American laborers."

— Fmr. President Teddy Roosevelt, 1912 pic.twitter.com/vFAXAQtlOQ

— Joshua Lisec, Ghostwriter (@JoshuaLisec) November 26, 2024

So many tariff naysayers thinking Trump just doesn't get it.

Every single globalist news media and politician has been scaring you since the 80's. Communities are lessened by American workers having to compete with slave labor. The globalists don't give one iota about the crime in your neighborhoods, the weakening of the moral fabric of society, the poverty, the foreign control of the American workforce, or you or your family. They just want to transfer wealth from you to them. If you can't see what they've done to our communities by flooding it with illegals and exporting jobs, that's on you.

if American companies can't use slave and child labor, then American consumers shouldn't be able to buy from these globalist companies that do. American workers should not have to compete against slavery. Fair trade with free market as a guideline.

Last, Tariffs are a tool and Trump's instincts are usually spot on. His first term was some of the best we've seen. He's clearly going to work with these nations to ensure that they're prioritizing what we need them to prioritize. Could easily see Trump using the tariff with Mexico to reduce immigration and drugs.

If you're siding with progressives on economics, you're probably on the wrong side of things.

Last, the US and the West built China up. We've created a trading partner that can now rival us and is a potential threat to freedom across the globe. Yay team unfettered globalism, good job.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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So many tariff naysayers thinking Trump just doesn't get it.

Every single globalist news media and politician has been scaring you since the 80's. Communities are lessened by American workers having to compete with slave labor. The globalists don't give one iota about the crime in your neighborhoods, the weakening of the moral fabric of society, the poverty, the foreign control of the American workforce, or you or your family. They just want to transfer wealth from you to them. If you can't see what they've done to our communities by flooding it with illegals and exporting jobs, that's on you.

if American companies can't use slave and child labor, then American consumers shouldn't be able to buy from these globalist companies that do. American workers should not have to compete against slavery. Fair trade with free market as a guideline.

Last, Tariffs are a tool and Trump's instincts are usually spot on. His first term was some of the best we've seen. He's clearly going to work with these nations to ensure that they're prioritizing what we need them to prioritize. Could easily see Trump using the tariff with Mexico to reduce immigration and drugs.

If you're siding with progressives on economics, you're probably on the wrong side of things.

Last, the US and the West built China up. We've created a trading partner that can now rival us and is a potential threat to freedom across the globe. Yay team unfettered globalism, good job.

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Sure, but you are forgetting an important thing

THEIR COMMUNITIES are not harmed....that is what is really important

Beverly Hills California, Highland Park Texas, Lincoln Park Chicago, DC, and Manhattan NY are not harmed by globalization and they don't care about how many good paying manufacturing jobs there are in the USA.....just that the stocks go up

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Why in the world do Trump want to start a trade war with two of our best trading partners?

Trump's love for tariffs is a real head scratcher. If he follows through with this, expect inflation to return with a vengeance and shortages of many products. Will be VERY painful for the middle and lower classes.

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It's a popular idea because most people don't know much about economics.

Trump understands we don't have to napalm our enemies to protect US citizens.

Excited to pay more in consumer goods to protect our people from illegals and dangerous narcotics.

Won't be painless, but even our selfish consumers need to join the fight in saving our culture.

KaiBear said:

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Won't be painless, but even our selfish consumers need to join the fight in saving our culture.

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That seems kind of a snooty, Elitist attitude. It has been estimated that two thirds of Americans have been living paycheck to paycheck. To call people barely just getting by and trying to pay their bills "selfish" is a little over the top.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Won't be painless, but even our selfish consumers need to join the fight in saving our culture.

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That seems kind of a snooty, Elitist attitude. It has been estimated that two thirds of Americans have been living paycheck to paycheck. To call people barely just getting by and trying to pay their bills "selfish" is a little over the top.

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A lot of Americans are living pay check to paycheck because our elites shipped the good paying jobs overseas and turned a manufacturing super power into a country with a small group of rich elites and college educated professionals at the top....and poor service workers at the bottom.

KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Won't be painless, but even our selfish consumers need to join the fight in saving our culture.

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That seems kind of a snooty, Elitist attitude. It has been estimated that two thirds of Americans have been living paycheck to paycheck. To call people barely just getting by and trying to pay their bills "selfish" is a little over the top.

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All comes down to walking the walk.

Otherwise 100,000 Americans will continue to die each year from imported narcotics.


There is no easy way out of the hole Biden put us in.

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Agree with you here. We have still a long way to go as far as the appetite for illegal drugs in the U.S. Parents need to sit down with their kids and have a serious discussion about the dangers of drug use. The story we hear over and over is that this was a "one time thing" for my teenager that overdosed. Kids should NEVER accept a pill even from their best friend. Back when we were growing up, popping a pill was no big deal. In 2024, popping the wrong pill could kill you. Don't want to sound like I am victim shaming but perhaps I am. People (especially kids) need to make better decisions. Nancy Reagan said it best. "JUST SAY NO!!!!!"

BearFan33 said:

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Trump is a negotiator

Put something out there that seems outlandish or destructive as your starting negotiating point.

He will use every tool in the toolbox to MAGA.

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Didn't Trump write a book in the 1990s called The Art of the Deal? OK, it was probably ghost written but the basic ideas were his. Amazon link:

https://a.co/d/cK4q0HW

Quite an accomplishment to start with $500 million and grow that into a multibillion dollar empire. Most successful businessmen have done failures along the way. This is true of people in general. The key is learning from mistakes: what one does after.

historian said:

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Quite an accomplishment to start with $500 million and grow that into a multibillion dollar empire. Most successful businessmen have done failures along the way. This is true of people in general. The key is learning from mistakes: what one does after.

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It was also not $500 million but never let a good story go

He had a rich Dad who helped him sure....but he had to work to turn that into a Billion

Trump exaggerated the number....and his enemies also exaggerate the number


[According to the newspaper's findings: "As for that $1 million loan, Fred Trump actually lent him at least $60.7 million, or $140 million in today's dollars."

In the Times' piece, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders reiterated Trump's oft-repeated claim that "The president's father gave him an initial $1 million loan, which he paid back."

Sanders added: "President Trump used this money to build an incredibly successful company as well as net worth of over $10 billion, including owning some of the world's greatest real estate."]

The numbers don't matter. The accomplishment does. I just repeated the number provided.