Hunter Biden pardoned

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Jacques Strap
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By claiming that Hunter was singled out because he was Biden's son, the pardon announcement also comes right out and says that Justice Department prosecutions are politicized and unfair. Not that we didn't know that, but still.


Yogi
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Jacques Strap said:

In case you missed it...

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-issue-pardon-son-hunter-biden-rcna182369


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The president has discussed pardoning his son with some of his closest aides at least since Hunter Biden's conviction in June, said two people with direct knowledge of the discussions about the matter. They said it was decided at the time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son even though doing so remained on the table.



Wouldn't that be "DISINFORMATION"?

"There will be moments when we disagree, and there will certainly be days where we disagree for extensive parts of the briefing even, perhaps. But we have a common goal, which is sharing accurate information with the American people...[Biden] plans to bring transparency and truth back to the government to share the truth, even when it's hard to hear." - Jen Psaki, January 2021
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
J.R.
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Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious. For the record, this pardon is BS.
BearlyHeardFrom
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-sweeping-pardon-that-exposed-bidens-corruption-once-and-for-all?topStoryPosition=2
Use Reader view to read the whole article. Bolded part is appropriate to the people on here whining about what Trump MAY do

"But the most consequential point is that, with this pardon, Democrats have once again proved their willingness to wield their power to the fullest extent possible, no matter how their opposition feels about it or what they say about it. Democrats are as ruthless as they are shameless. There's no way to look at this pardon and come to any other conclusion.
They will spend years telling you one thing, only to do another all without any degree of remorse or self-awareness. They'll extol the virtues of "the rule of law" and "democracy," only to admit, on their way out the door, that actually none of that was ever remotely important to them.
This is the lesson that Trump needs to keep at the front of his mind for the next four years, as Democrats repeatedly try to use conservatives' values against us. That's the strategy they've been using for many years, to great effect. And they're going to keep on doing it.
But now that Democrats have admitted they have no values themselves, there's no reason for Trump or any elected Republican to listen to a word they say. And if most Americans come to that realization, then Hunter Biden's pardon will probably, on balance, be a net positive because it means that no family as corrupt and power-hungry as the Bidens will ever control the White House again."


Married A Horn
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.


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J.R.
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Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.


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figured as much as I hum a little Cyndie Luaper's "True Colors Shining Through". So, do you not have a definition, but you throw that term around like pancakes?
KaiBear
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.
Is this an open invitation ?
Married A Horn
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J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.


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figured as much as I hum a little Cyndie Luaper's "True Colors Shining Through". So, do you not have a definition, but you throw that term around like pancakes?


Pass because everyone on here knows what it means. Kai feels up for it. He can.
KaiBear
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.
Is this an open invitation ?

Folks who often mean well, but are constantly unaware of the human realities involved with their concepts.

Unjustified arrogance is common, personal misery standard, either extreme wealth or extreme poverty a must.
FormerFlash
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A liberal is a democrat. Someone with political views and beliefs left of center. A leftist, by contrast, is an extremist with political views and beliefs that are far left and not palatable to most democrats or republicans with the tiniest amount of common sense. Concepts like men can have babies.

That's why he asked how liberals were feeling about this and not how leftist were feeling about this. No one cares what leftists think or feel because they're morons. He's asking democrats to weigh in.
Sic Everyone.
Married A Horn
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FormerFlash said:

A liberal is a democrat. Someone with political views and beliefs left of center. A leftist, by contrast, is an extremist with political views and beliefs that are far left and not palatable to most democrats or republicans with the tiniest amount of common sense. Concepts like men can have babies.

That's why he asked how liberals were feeling about this and not how leftist were feeling about this. No one cares what leftists think or feel because they're morons. He's asking democrats to weigh in.


A democrat/liberal to me should focused on taxes & education. Welfare & social programs. While we disagree on what is good for the people and the nation, those things arent evil.

Leftists extremists are evil (sinful). Transgender. Abortion. Race baiting & identity politics. Conjured Conspiracies as coups to take down a sitting president. Voter id and illegal immigration invasion.
All lying, cheating, stealing... all sin. This ideology needs to be eradicated.
nein51
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So I don't care much but if any of us were facing federal gun charges we would be saying goodbye to our friends and family for a while.

You cannot be surprised when the average person is jaded by the political process. There are thousands and thousands of people in prison for way less than Hunter Biden and they will spend a long time there while he gets a pardon for the last 10 YEARS of criminal activity.

You also can't be surprised when the conspiracy nut jobs have this kind of ammunition. It absolutely looks like he is getting pardoned for things that could come back to Joe.

This is an awful look and no one but the most partisan hacks can defend it. In fact, I would go so far as to say if you're defending it you're probably someone no one should listen to.
OsoCoreyell
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He should be impeached. Really. There should be hearings over this. And with total, blanket immunity for crimes in an almost 11 year period, Hunter has no ability to take the 5th. If he fails to truthfully and fully answer the questions, he should be prosecuted for lying to congress and contempt.
Married A Horn
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As much as it angers everyone, this is probably not an impeachable offense,right? The president can pardon anyone he wants for any reason...no recourse.
Harrison Bergeron
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Biden cemented his legacy as the biggest liar and likely most corrupt buffoon in U.S. presidential history.

He's a criminal but worth no more time.
OsoCoreyell
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Married A Horn said:

As much as it angers everyone, this is probably not an impeachable offense,right? The president can pardon anyone he wants for any reason...no recourse.
Impeachment is a political process, not a judicial process. So there is no need for some kind of proof of violation of a law. It is for "high crimes and misdemeanors," which can include any interpretation of that phrase that the House and Senate choose. He could be impeached and subsequently convicted by the Senate, but it would be a meaningless gesture.

A better process is the one I've laid out, which should get to the bottom of the alleged crimes and the total corruption of the Biden family so that the American people and voters can understand fully what has been covered up and pardoned.
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Jack Bauer
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This is the best gotcha of all gotchas

J.R.
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.
Is this an open invitation ?

of course!!
J.R.
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Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

J.R. said:

Married A Horn said:

I know liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague, but I'd love to hear their thoughts.

Ya'll still okay? Your world view has come crashing down...not to late to change sides.
Please define "Liberal" as you view it. Just curious.


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figured as much as I hum a little Cyndie Luaper's "True Colors Shining Through". So, do you not have a definition, but you throw that term around like pancakes?


Pass because everyone on here knows what it means. Kai feels up for it. He can.
No, I for one doesn't know what it means. Please let the unlighted know.
J.R.
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Redbrickbear said:


I asked the question specifically, what it means to folks, not anything Wicki
Redbrickbear
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J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:


I asked the question specifically, what it means to folks, not anything Wicki


That post was not defining "liberal"

If was in reference to the Media reaction to the Biden Pardon.

Do you want a definition for "liberal"?

Harrison Bergeron
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The fact this is not universally condemned shows how stupid our politics are and how disinformed so many are.
J.R.
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Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:


I asked the question specifically, what it means to folks, not anything Wicki


That post was not defining "liberal"

If was in reference to the Media reaction to the Biden Pardon.

Do you want a definition for "liberal"?


yes, please
Married A Horn
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OsoCoreyell said:

Married A Horn said:

As much as it angers everyone, this is probably not an impeachable offense,right? The president can pardon anyone he wants for any reason...no recourse.
Impeachment is a political process, not a judicial process. So there is no need for some kind of proof of violation of a law. It is for "high crimes and misdemeanors," which can include any interpretation of that phrase that the House and Senate choose. He could be impeached and subsequently convicted by the Senate, but it would be a meaningless gesture.

A better process is the one I've laid out, which should get to the bottom of the alleged crimes and the total corruption of the Biden family so that the American people and voters can understand fully what has been covered up and pardoned.


Oh, I'm all for that!
Jack Bauer
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Really, bro?

Doc Holliday
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FormerFlash said:

A liberal is a democrat. Someone with political views and beliefs left of center. A leftist, by contrast, is an extremist with political views and beliefs that are far left and not palatable to most democrats or republicans with the tiniest amount of common sense. Concepts like men can have babies.

That's why he asked how liberals were feeling about this and not how leftist were feeling about this. No one cares what leftists think or feel because they're morons. He's asking democrats to weigh in.
There is a radicalism to neoliberalism though. It's not so much the concepts they promote, but their failure to accurately assess government.

It's the unwarranted defense of our federal and state governments who have objectively gone too far, fleece taxpayers and spend money with negative ROI.

Ex. The pentagon failed its 7th audit in a row and can't account for damn near a trillion dollars. A rational response to that is that we need to clean house and radically change how government operates. To neoliberals, it's just normal behavior and there's no real outrage. When populists get angry about and demand change, neoliberals tend to defend the actions of the state.
Redbrickbear
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J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:


I asked the question specifically, what it means to folks, not anything Wicki


That post was not defining "liberal"

If was in reference to the Media reaction to the Biden Pardon.

Do you want a definition for "liberal"?


yes, please


There are several kinds

Classical liberals

Progressive Liberals (USA)

Liberal-Conservatives
J.R.
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Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:


I asked the question specifically, what it means to folks, not anything Wicki


That post was not defining "liberal"

If was in reference to the Media reaction to the Biden Pardon.

Do you want a definition for "liberal"?


yes, please


There are several kinds

Classical liberals

Progressive Liberals (USA)

Liberal-Conservatives
lets start with the L/C. I'm interested in the folks that throw that term around here.
4th and Inches
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Jack Bauer said:

Really, bro?


dude is a clown..
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Porteroso
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Most fathers would pardon their kid, and most politicians would lie about it. Not surprising. Of course it is wrong, but Trump pardoned some bad guys too. Including family.

Lying about it is the worst part, but you zealots are pretending like all the sudden, it is just so shocking Joe Biden tell a lie. You guys love to be outraged. Instant dopamine hit.
90sBear
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Porteroso said:

Most fathers would pardon their kid, and most politicians would lie about it. Not surprising. Of course it is wrong, but Trump pardoned some bad guys too. Including family.

Lying about it is the worst part, but you zealots are pretending like all the sudden, it is just so shocking Joe Biden tell a lie. You guys love to be outraged. Instant dopamine hit.
11 years worth of pardon. Over twice as long as Ford granted Nixon.
Wangchung
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Porteroso said:

Most fathers would pardon their kid, and most politicians would lie about it. Not surprising. Of course it is wrong, but Trump pardoned some bad guys too. Including family.

Lying about it is the worst part, but you zealots are pretending like all the sudden, it is just so shocking Joe Biden tell a lie. You guys love to be outraged. Instant dopamine hit.
It's not shocking that he would tell a lie, it's just hilarious when he gets caught and you little lefties aren't given an official lie to regurgitate to try and save face. The desperation in your own post to try and deflect from just how corrupt this move was and what it confirms only adds to the hilarity.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Married A Horn
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90sBear said:

Porteroso said:

Most fathers would pardon their kid, and most politicians would lie about it. Not surprising. Of course it is wrong, but Trump pardoned some bad guys too. Including family.

Lying about it is the worst part, but you zealots are pretending like all the sudden, it is just so shocking Joe Biden tell a lie. You guys love to be outraged. Instant dopamine hit.
11 years worth of pardon. Over twice as long as Ford granted Nixon.


The problem isnt pardoning his son... its what all else is below the surface? The past decade which is for sure about all the influence peddling to foreign agents. I could be wrong, but I think that's treason.

"20% to The big guy" Let's start talking what this is really about. Oh wait, Porto probably still thinks Hunter's laptop was Russia disinformation and the Steele Dossier was legit.
Yogi
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FWIW, I have always fancied myself as classical liberal in the same vein as Thomas Jefferson or a French liberal of the late 18th century.

Now to go jam to some Mozart.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
 
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