The real reason for Greenland

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KaiBear
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Wangchung said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Before you call this guy a shill for Trump, you might want to google his name - Mark Rutte.



Still another major accomplishment for Trump.

As our NATO 'allies' ignored many other such requests from previous presidents.

I find it odd that Trump haters keep pretending that Trump has been am ineffective president.

When the evidence is crystal clear he has accomplished more than any president since FDR.



I blame Trump himself for much of this response. As he brags constantly and insults those that challenge him on any topic.

If Trump had Reagan's style.....Trump would get far more praise from the American people.

Trump could be the most stylish man on earth and the media would treat him exactly the same.

Possibly, as the legacy media has hated on Republicans for decades.

My favorite was how Mitt Romney ( of all people ) was going to put black people in chains.
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Apparently Trump has got what he wanted in regards to Greenland.

Without any military issues.

Stock market seems happy about it.....at least for today.



the neverTrumpers are the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world. So predictably, often spectacularly wrong.





Well it looks like the drama queens can sleep easy tonight. Thanks to their very public wailing, Trump has backed off the invasion plans, so the US won't be bombing the poor people of Greenland. Thank you TDSers, you saved the planet once again.

Now, one restful nigh for you, well deserved. And tomorrow, you can find something else to beech and moan about.

{slow clap}


I am sure he and his Merry Gang of MAGA will give us and the world something else to head off and insult some Nation.

Maybe he can threaten some Island nation Barton wants?

What Nationality will get picked for deportation today on the Stephen Miller wheel of deplorables,as Dean Martin songs in the background?

Maybe trash the "special relationship" with England over some golf course he wants?

Ah, the day is young, we can threaten and insult so many in one day. After all Canada doesn't exist without us. Gotta be proud...

Every American president in the modern era has made a run at Greenland. Turns out, Trump succeeded where others have failed. Obvious conclusion to most rational people is the it took a bit of *******ry to get the job done done.

Just admit it - you would rather accomplish nothing than ruffle feathers to accomplish a lot.

Please explain what he got that we didn't already have or turned down in the past? Seriously, what is new? What is the concession by Denmark? We could do what we wanted there for defense.

Trump did an about face and backed down after creating a disaster for being able to defend Greenland?

Second, when will it be signed? Or, is it like the manufacturing, all verbal.


"Olesen, the Danish analyst, said he expected the current, long-standing defense agreement between the United States, Denmark and Greenland to be the starting point for negotiations.
"This could indeed end in something that will be an update of the defense agreement, perhaps a little bit more than that will be needed. Perhaps we will see some negotiations about rare earth metals. Perhaps we will see some sort of negotiation about limiting Chinese and Russian influence agreements, something like that. But that in negotiation, for the first time in a long while, a negotiated settlement does seem to be within reach," Olesen said."


Please what have we won? We are updating an existing agreement? They can invest in rare earth minerals? We can do the now. It is all smoke. The NATO guy kicked his butt and Trump doesn't realize it.
Oldbear83
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Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
whiterock
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Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?
Oldbear83
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So much whine, so little substance.

FLBear should either stop watching The View,or apply to join the harpies there.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

So much whine, so little substance.

FLBear should either stop watching The View,or apply to join the harpies there.

Or start drinking heavily...
KaiBear
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Why didn't Trump get the hostages back faster ?
Why isn't the gasoline prices 50 cents a gallon ?
Why didn't Trump get the Venezuelan dictator quicker ?
Why didn't Trump deport all 15 million illegals yesterday ?
Why didn't Trump make our NATO allies pay 25% toward their own defense ?
Why isn't inflation down only to 2.8% from 9% ?
Why are drug overdoses down only 20% from last year ?
Why has Trump negotiated the end of only 4 wars instead of 6 ?
Why hasn't Trump found a cure for cancer by now ?

Gotta luv the internet.
Robert Wilson
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KaiBear said:

Why didn't Trump get the hostages back faster ?
Why isn't the gasoline prices 50 cents a gallon ?
Why didn't Trump get the Venezuelan dictator quicker ?
Why didn't Trump deport all 15 million illegals yesterday ?
Why didn't Trump make our NATO allies pay 25% toward their own defense ?
Why isn't inflation down only to 2.8% from 9% ?
Why are drug overdoses down only 20% from last year ?
Why has Trump negotiated the end of only 4 wars instead of 6 ?
Why hasn't Trump found a cure for cancer by now ?

Gotta luv the internet.

Don't forget the drop in crime rates (pretty astonishing) and not having a new 10-20M illegals flood the country 2025-28.
KaiBear
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Robert Wilson said:

KaiBear said:

Why didn't Trump get the hostages back faster ?
Why isn't the gasoline prices 50 cents a gallon ?
Why didn't Trump get the Venezuelan dictator quicker ?
Why didn't Trump deport all 15 million illegals yesterday ?
Why didn't Trump make our NATO allies pay 25% toward their own defense ?
Why isn't inflation down only to 2.8% from 9% ?
Why are drug overdoses down only 20% from last year ?
Why has Trump negotiated the end of only 4 wars instead of 6 ?
Why hasn't Trump found a cure for cancer by now ?

Gotta luv the internet.

Don't forget the drop in crime rates (pretty astonishing) and not having a new 10-20M illegals flood the country 2025-28.


Nope

Trump is a failure.


Harris would have been the greatest president since Joe Biden.
Should have voted for her.
Redbrickbear
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Oldbear83
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

So much whine, so little substance.

FLBear should either stop watching The View,or apply to join the harpies there.

Or start drinking heavily...

Star for the Animal House reference.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Mitch Blood Green
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Apparently Trump has got what he wanted in regards to Greenland.

Without any military issues.

Stock market seems happy about it.....at least for today.



the neverTrumpers are the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world. So predictably, often spectacularly wrong.





Well it looks like the drama queens can sleep easy tonight. Thanks to their very public wailing, Trump has backed off the invasion plans, so the US won't be bombing the poor people of Greenland. Thank you TDSers, you saved the planet once again.

Now, one restful nigh for you, well deserved. And tomorrow, you can find something else to beech and moan about.

{slow clap}


I am sure he and his Merry Gang of MAGA will give us and the world something else to head off and insult some Nation.

Maybe he can threaten some Island nation Barton wants?

What Nationality will get picked for deportation today on the Stephen Miller wheel of deplorables,as Dean Martin songs in the background?

Maybe trash the "special relationship" with England over some golf course he wants?

Ah, the day is young, we can threaten and insult so many in one day. After all Canada doesn't exist without us. Gotta be proud...

Every American president in the modern era has made a run at Greenland. Turns out, Trump succeeded where others have failed. Obvious conclusion to most rational people is the it took a bit of *******ry to get the job done done.

Just admit it - you would rather accomplish nothing than ruffle feathers to accomplish a lot.

Please explain what he got that we didn't already have or turned down in the past? Seriously, what is new? What is the concession by Denmark? We could do what we wanted there for defense.

Trump did an about face and backed down after creating a disaster for being able to defend Greenland?

Second, when will it be signed? Or, is it like the manufacturing, all verbal.


"Olesen, the Danish analyst, said he expected the current, long-standing defense agreement between the United States, Denmark and Greenland to be the starting point for negotiations.
"This could indeed end in something that will be an update of the defense agreement, perhaps a little bit more than that will be needed. Perhaps we will see some negotiations about rare earth metals. Perhaps we will see some sort of negotiation about limiting Chinese and Russian influence agreements, something like that. But that in negotiation, for the first time in a long while, a negotiated settlement does seem to be within reach," Olesen said."


Please what have we won? We are updating an existing agreement? They can invest in rare earth minerals? We can do the now. It is all smoke. The NATO guy kicked his butt and Trump doesn't realize it.


The only thing NATO guy can offer is to give us what we have. Concessions can only be done the the Danes.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

ok democrat ally, he didn't threaten to invade.
KaiBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Apparently Trump has got what he wanted in regards to Greenland.

Without any military issues.

Stock market seems happy about it.....at least for today.



the neverTrumpers are the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world. So predictably, often spectacularly wrong.





Well it looks like the drama queens can sleep easy tonight. Thanks to their very public wailing, Trump has backed off the invasion plans, so the US won't be bombing the poor people of Greenland. Thank you TDSers, you saved the planet once again.

Now, one restful nigh for you, well deserved. And tomorrow, you can find something else to beech and moan about.

{slow clap}


I am sure he and his Merry Gang of MAGA will give us and the world something else to head off and insult some Nation.

Maybe he can threaten some Island nation Barton wants?

What Nationality will get picked for deportation today on the Stephen Miller wheel of deplorables,as Dean Martin songs in the background?

Maybe trash the "special relationship" with England over some golf course he wants?

Ah, the day is young, we can threaten and insult so many in one day. After all Canada doesn't exist without us. Gotta be proud...

Every American president in the modern era has made a run at Greenland. Turns out, Trump succeeded where others have failed. Obvious conclusion to most rational people is the it took a bit of *******ry to get the job done done.

Just admit it - you would rather accomplish nothing than ruffle feathers to accomplish a lot.

Please explain what he got that we didn't already have or turned down in the past? Seriously, what is new? What is the concession by Denmark? We could do what we wanted there for defense.

Trump did an about face and backed down after creating a disaster for being able to defend Greenland?

Second, when will it be signed? Or, is it like the manufacturing, all verbal.


"Olesen, the Danish analyst, said he expected the current, long-standing defense agreement between the United States, Denmark and Greenland to be the starting point for negotiations.
"This could indeed end in something that will be an update of the defense agreement, perhaps a little bit more than that will be needed. Perhaps we will see some negotiations about rare earth metals. Perhaps we will see some sort of negotiation about limiting Chinese and Russian influence agreements, something like that. But that in negotiation, for the first time in a long while, a negotiated settlement does seem to be within reach," Olesen said."


Please what have we won? We are updating an existing agreement? They can invest in rare earth minerals? We can do the now. It is all smoke. The NATO guy kicked his butt and Trump doesn't realize it.


The only thing NATO guy can offer is to give us what we have. Concessions can only be done the the Danes.


That's my thought as well.

Possibly the Danes will do what their own representatives in NATO suggest.
Redbrickbear
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Sam Lowry
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At the end of the day, we can all rest easy knowing that America will be able to use Greenland in ever more reckless and belligerent ways once the details are worked out. For most of us, I think that's all that matters.
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Sam Lowry
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Redbrickbear said:



What could possibly be the point of this observation, pray tell?
Redbrickbear
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Sam Lowry said:

Redbrickbear said:



What could possibly be the point of this observation, pray tell?


1. It's a Greenland thread…it's a damn interesting fact about Greenland

2. Land has changed hands throughout history. And it's always will. Nothing is permanent

3. One group of modern natives. Is the raging invading oppressors of the past


Around 1200 AD, the Thule moved east.

"Ancestors of the Inuit.
They brought bows, boats, dogs.

They moved faster.
Hunted bigger.
Survived better.

The Dorset… didn't"




Mitch Blood Green
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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Apparently Trump has got what he wanted in regards to Greenland.

Without any military issues.

Stock market seems happy about it.....at least for today.



the neverTrumpers are the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world. So predictably, often spectacularly wrong.





Well it looks like the drama queens can sleep easy tonight. Thanks to their very public wailing, Trump has backed off the invasion plans, so the US won't be bombing the poor people of Greenland. Thank you TDSers, you saved the planet once again.

Now, one restful nigh for you, well deserved. And tomorrow, you can find something else to beech and moan about.

{slow clap}


I am sure he and his Merry Gang of MAGA will give us and the world something else to head off and insult some Nation.

Maybe he can threaten some Island nation Barton wants?

What Nationality will get picked for deportation today on the Stephen Miller wheel of deplorables,as Dean Martin songs in the background?

Maybe trash the "special relationship" with England over some golf course he wants?

Ah, the day is young, we can threaten and insult so many in one day. After all Canada doesn't exist without us. Gotta be proud...

Every American president in the modern era has made a run at Greenland. Turns out, Trump succeeded where others have failed. Obvious conclusion to most rational people is the it took a bit of *******ry to get the job done done.

Just admit it - you would rather accomplish nothing than ruffle feathers to accomplish a lot.

Please explain what he got that we didn't already have or turned down in the past? Seriously, what is new? What is the concession by Denmark? We could do what we wanted there for defense.

Trump did an about face and backed down after creating a disaster for being able to defend Greenland?

Second, when will it be signed? Or, is it like the manufacturing, all verbal.


"Olesen, the Danish analyst, said he expected the current, long-standing defense agreement between the United States, Denmark and Greenland to be the starting point for negotiations.
"This could indeed end in something that will be an update of the defense agreement, perhaps a little bit more than that will be needed. Perhaps we will see some negotiations about rare earth metals. Perhaps we will see some sort of negotiation about limiting Chinese and Russian influence agreements, something like that. But that in negotiation, for the first time in a long while, a negotiated settlement does seem to be within reach," Olesen said."


Please what have we won? We are updating an existing agreement? They can invest in rare earth minerals? We can do the now. It is all smoke. The NATO guy kicked his butt and Trump doesn't realize it.


The only thing NATO guy can offer is to give us what we have. Concessions can only be done the the Danes.


That's my thought as well.

Possibly the Danes will do what their own representatives in NATO suggest.


Naw. They're dug in.
Sam Lowry
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I take it you're ready and willing to pay up for whatever your ancestors may have done?
Redbrickbear
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Sam Lowry said:

I take it you're ready and willing to pay up for whatever your ancestors may have done?


Unlike the Left I don't believe in collective punishments for historical "crimes"

But are arguing that land never changes hands? Or that history is static and unchanging?
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J.R.
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I have $1k that pig man does not get Greenland. Any maga takers? Wanker, Old, LJ, Hammerskin Hank, Teacher man.
whiterock
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.
KaiBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Robert Wilson said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

Apparently Trump has got what he wanted in regards to Greenland.

Without any military issues.

Stock market seems happy about it.....at least for today.



the neverTrumpers are the Wile E. Coyotes of the political world. So predictably, often spectacularly wrong.





Well it looks like the drama queens can sleep easy tonight. Thanks to their very public wailing, Trump has backed off the invasion plans, so the US won't be bombing the poor people of Greenland. Thank you TDSers, you saved the planet once again.

Now, one restful nigh for you, well deserved. And tomorrow, you can find something else to beech and moan about.

{slow clap}


I am sure he and his Merry Gang of MAGA will give us and the world something else to head off and insult some Nation.

Maybe he can threaten some Island nation Barton wants?

What Nationality will get picked for deportation today on the Stephen Miller wheel of deplorables,as Dean Martin songs in the background?

Maybe trash the "special relationship" with England over some golf course he wants?

Ah, the day is young, we can threaten and insult so many in one day. After all Canada doesn't exist without us. Gotta be proud...

Every American president in the modern era has made a run at Greenland. Turns out, Trump succeeded where others have failed. Obvious conclusion to most rational people is the it took a bit of *******ry to get the job done done.

Just admit it - you would rather accomplish nothing than ruffle feathers to accomplish a lot.

Please explain what he got that we didn't already have or turned down in the past? Seriously, what is new? What is the concession by Denmark? We could do what we wanted there for defense.

Trump did an about face and backed down after creating a disaster for being able to defend Greenland?

Second, when will it be signed? Or, is it like the manufacturing, all verbal.


"Olesen, the Danish analyst, said he expected the current, long-standing defense agreement between the United States, Denmark and Greenland to be the starting point for negotiations.
"This could indeed end in something that will be an update of the defense agreement, perhaps a little bit more than that will be needed. Perhaps we will see some negotiations about rare earth metals. Perhaps we will see some sort of negotiation about limiting Chinese and Russian influence agreements, something like that. But that in negotiation, for the first time in a long while, a negotiated settlement does seem to be within reach," Olesen said."


Please what have we won? We are updating an existing agreement? They can invest in rare earth minerals? We can do the now. It is all smoke. The NATO guy kicked his butt and Trump doesn't realize it.


The only thing NATO guy can offer is to give us what we have. Concessions can only be done the the Danes.


That's my thought as well.

Possibly the Danes will do what their own representatives in NATO suggest.


Naw. They're dug in.


Possibly so.

Time will tell.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.

He made a run and failed to buy it, as have several Presidents. As he did again.

What deal? So far the ONLY thing different than the situation before is a reference to China and Russia. Russia, no one wants there. China is problematic as they bring investment and infrastructure. What are we giving to counter that? We building the infrastructure in Greenland?

Look into China/Europe energy collaboration.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
KaiBear
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Very accurate portrayal

LOL
Wangchung
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.

He made a run and failed to buy it, as have several Presidents. As he did again.

What deal? So far the ONLY thing different than the situation before is a reference to China and Russia. Russia, no one wants there. China is problematic as they bring investment and infrastructure. What are we giving to counter that? We building the infrastructure in Greenland?

Look into China/Europe energy collaboration.

Weird how you forgot about the access to rare earth minerals... must have been an honest mistake on your part. Lol
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.

He made a run and failed to buy it, as have several Presidents. As he did again.

What deal? So far the ONLY thing different than the situation before is a reference to China and Russia. Russia, no one wants there. China is problematic as they bring investment and infrastructure. What are we giving to counter that? We building the infrastructure in Greenland?

Look into China/Europe energy collaboration.


Weird how you forgot about the access to rare earth minerals... must have been an honest mistake on your part. Lol

Access? We have had access, they have asked us and everyone else to invest in rare earth minerals and we said no. It is too expensive and the conditions too harsh, it was cheaper to get them on the open market. Denmark and Greenland have been trying for decades to get someone to invest. If Trump wanted to partner on rare earths all he had to do was ask...

But, the reality show is a much better approach. It gets guys like you blood up. We showed them, damn Eurotrash...

Also, look up if the NATO Secretary has the authority to negotiate anything on this for Denmark. He allowed Donald to save face with your ilk, that is what he does. Look up his career. Internet is great, a wealth of information out there to learn what is really going on. Or, rely Bannon, he will tell you what to think.

Did you look into the China/Europe energy deal? Donald did accomplish that.
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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.

He made a run and failed to buy it, as have several Presidents. As he did again.

What deal? So far the ONLY thing different than the situation before is a reference to China and Russia. Russia, no one wants there. China is problematic as they bring investment and infrastructure. What are we giving to counter that? We building the infrastructure in Greenland?

Look into China/Europe energy collaboration.


Weird how you forgot about the access to rare earth minerals... must have been an honest mistake on your part. Lol

Access? We have had access, they have asked us and everyone else to invest in rare earth minerals and we said no. It is too expensive and the conditions too harsh, it was cheaper to get them on the open market. Denmark and Greenland have been trying for decades to get someone to invest. If Trump wanted to partner on rare earths all he had to do was ask...

But, the reality show is a much better approach. It gets guys like you blood up. We showed them, damn Eurotrash...

Also, look up if the NATO Secretary has the authority to negotiate anything on this for Denmark. He allowed Donald to save face with your ilk, that is what he does. Look up his career. Internet is great, a wealth of information out there to learn what is really going on. Or, rely Bannon, he will tell you what to think.

Did you look into the China/Europe energy deal? Donald did accomplish that.
And now China and Russia have no access to those minerals, thanks to this yet to be signed deal.

And for the record, it was YOU idiots that claimed Trump would invade Greenland. It was YOU idiots taking the unanswered loaded questions from biased reporters as answers from Trump. You morons take Trump literally so you can point at the outcome and claim it was a failure because it didn't match the bluster of the negotiations at the beginning . You know nothing of politics, economics nor history and your voting habits bear this out. Whether your ignorance is willful or you come by it honestly, it's destroyed any honest objective opinions you might have ever had.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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I wouldn't piss down pig mans throat is he was on fire.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Sadly, this is what FLBear has become:

Rant.

Ignore facts.

Repeat rant, to the point of pretending the facts support his lies.

LOL here we see a rehash of the conversation I've had with him


What does that have to do with the agreement we have had in place since 1951?

Or, why he didn't ask in in 2016 to 2017?

Or, why he just didn't ask 2 months ago before threatening to invade?

You think that was a positive comment toward Trump by Sowell?

LOL. So sad to see you wallowing in ignorance here. Trump did make a run at Greenland later in his first term. He cancelled a planned state visit to Denmark in 2019 over it. He's better prepared this time, and more resolute. Ergo the outcome is better. He is certainly not the first POTUS to make serious run at it.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/11/the-4-times-the-united-states-tried-to-acquire-greenland-from-denmark/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/brief-history-of-us-trying-failing-buy-greenland-ps-010826
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/07/politics/us-greenland-trump-denmark-history-hnk

Here's what your vanities about how the public persona of a president causes you to misread the situatin. We most certainly will invade Greenland if Denmark demands we leave. or if an independent Greenland asks us to leave. or if a rival power gains a foothold there. Greenland is absolutely more important to us, in geopolitical terms, than it is to Denmark. It's a costly unexploitable asset to the Danes. It's a strategic imperative for us. So if it really is important, isn't it necessary to get where we need to get, however it takes? The deal we see unfolding today echoes of the Truman era.

The orange dude is crude but effective, which is preferrable to polite and impotent.

effective at what? I'd like to know. You take $1K wager for Greenland if you are so cock sure he has done great.
 
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