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8:20p, 1/28/25
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
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In reply to Porteroso • 8:21p, 1/28/25
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historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.

Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.

These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.
first they had a permit to protest, second they have a right to assemble and protest and use words you dont like according to1st amendment. Wanting to stop it is protesting, acting to stop it is interupting a govt proceeding.

Is it breeching the capital when they were let in from the inside? Or when they were escorted around by police inside?

Its still funny that the crowd "breeching the capital" actually stopped the protest of elector slates as planned which was a lawful process. Congress immediately approved upon reassembly with no protesting of elector slates. Worked perfectly..
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In reply to Yogi • 8:35p, 1/28/25
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Don't you know a buffalo helmet basically is like a nuclear weapon?

Myriad governments have fallen to stoners in Buffalo costumes.
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In reply to Yogi • 8:43p, 1/28/25
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.


This is the part that really makes no sense and kills several arguments of the left on other topics.

For example on guns. They always say "why do you need an AR15 it won't help you against the government" and yet they act like Jan6 we were just minutes away from the entire government collapsing from unarmed people.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 8:52p, 1/28/25
cowboycwr said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.


This is the part that really makes no sense and kills several arguments of the left on other topics.

For example on guns. They always say "why do you need an AR15 it won't help you against the government" and yet they act like Jan6 we were just minutes away from the entire government collapsing from unarmed people.
They're not serious people.

They are authoritarian fascists and January 6 is their Rheichstag Fire ... they had hoped to use it to curtail civil liberties and further punish opponents ... but the democracy kicked the fascists in the balls.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 8:53p, 1/28/25
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cowboycwr said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.


This is the part that really makes no sense and kills several arguments of the left on other topics.

For example on guns. They always say "why do you need an AR15 it won't help you against the government" and yet they act like Jan6 we were just minutes away from the entire government collapsing from unarmed people.
They're not serious people.

They are authoritarian fascists and January 6 is their Rheichstag Fire ... they had hoped to use it to curtail civil liberties and further punish opponents ... but the democracy kicked the fascists in the balls.



Exactly - people weren't buying it and didn't appreciate their intelligence being insulted.
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In reply to Chuckroast • 10:15p, 1/28/25
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Not to mention that it was entrapment. They could have had National Guard there to keep the peace, but they were wanting the crowd to get a little out of hand. It completely served the narrative they were trying to create that Trump supporters were reprobates. A few of the protesters were foolish enough to fall for it and got out of hand. Most simply walked through doors that had been opened for them. The crowd believed that being there might encourage Pence not to certify the electoral count… a remedy they believed was lawful. In no way was it an insurrection.

Dems have continued to play the insurrection card all the way up until election day and even now and are simply in disbelief that their gaslighting is not working.


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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:21p, 1/28/25
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KaiBear said:
Yogi said:
You can only pardon someone for a crime that has been committed; right?


Hope the Supreme Court eventually rules in that direction.


Nixon and a few others in History have preemptive pardons. Of course not to the scope of what Biden just did.

Good catch.

Had forgotten Ford did that.

Did not support it and he deserved to lose the next election.



Tough to look at 40 years later. Those of us old enough to remember Watergate wasnt the only issue of the time, it went from Bay of Pigs, JFK assassination, Viet Nam, RFK assassination, MLK assassination, Munich Olympics and then Watergate. After Johnson and Nixon, Ford was a decent hardworking man that put the Nation first to close the book. Carter never wins in a different era.

So, the Watergate pardon looked at in a solo, yeah bad move. Looked at in context to everything else the Nation had been through? Did we want a trial of the President too? That is what I remember, but I was younger the Kai. I was a kid, but it was definitely talked about at home and school.


Compare watergate to what was done to trump. Really quite unbelievable


Watergate was pretty bad. Nixon did it. It was the uncovering of a crime that was documented and believed to be unconnected.

Trump stuff is more political, policy and opinion-based it for that. , One side sees weaponizing of an agency, the other that Trump committed prosecutable crimes. Gonna be tough to prove a crime, more of a change policy. Just don't put the two in the same category. I know there are some that believe it is worse. I don't see anything they couldn't even impeach over, being in the class of Watergate.


I'm talking the spying on trump Obama did and the pee pee dossier. Watergate not even close


Geez, not one of these things has evidence or brought to trial. A lot of conspiracy theory, a lot of speculation. Since, 2016 not one of what you talk about has been tried. Even with 4 of those years under Trump. Keep in mind, Watergate occurred and played out under Nixon's watch. Watergate cost a sitting President the Presidency, to say any of this is in the same ball park is ridiculous.


Lol Seriously?

The pee pee dossier didn't exist? I'm amazed at you sometimes based on what you post and of course not knowing you at all. But I guess people do exist in reality in that mindset. I think sometimes you're just stirring it up though for funzies


I can't believe you put actual crimes that caused a President to step down and people to go to prison below hear-say that has not been proven or tried. Nothing you mention has resulted in any legal or political action. They couldn't even get an impeachment with a majority on all the Biden crime stuff. Hillary has not had any legal or political action against her for all the worse than Watergate acts.

So maybe all this horrid Dem actions happened as you said, but there has been nothing, no impact. Versus the worst political crisis in US history. Which is worse?


I think you're confused. If you can't see the difference in what the democrats put USA through with fake russia pee pee and laptop and 50 lying military signing off on it, and I could go on, I can't help you. I guess if they can get enough ostensibly common senseicall folks like you to believe watergate was worse, we really are doomed. They impeached a president over a pee pee dossier. They tried to kill him multiple times. I mean, yeah. Watergate

The other posts covered it well. One could type at length. But some people just want to believe not in America I guess. What a way to live. Must be nice.

What the hell are you talking about????? "Not believe in America"???? On a bit of bender, huh? The US flag tie a bit tight?

What does any of that have to do with whether Watergate was worse for the Nation than stuff that was never prosecuted?




Because it was never prosecuted.
Nor impeached. If there are chargeable acts, bring them. This is Trump's second shot at the gold ring, there is no excuse to not prosecute and show that it WAS as bad as Watergate. So far, nothing. So I don't see how you can put these acts in the same category as Watergate, which brought down a sitting President.


Acts vs consequences. We are talking about the acts. You are talking about the consequences.


So, when saying it was the worst acts in us history how do you quantify? None of it has been vetted. It is pieces of info in news stories (ironic discussing the mother of all news stories). How do you put any credence to those acts? Watergate happened, left or right the facts are the facts. There is no dispute.

What Freedom is bringing up as worse is only agreed upon by one part of the population.


Only one part of the population thinks the pee pee was fake? I guess they still believe they needed to fax too to save their life. Fools gonna fool
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In reply to historian • 5:19a, 1/29/25
historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.oK
Ok, "Historian". You are saying that the Clinto Dossier, Benghazi, and the Biden actions against Trump were more impactful than Watergate? Are you a real historian or somebody that likes history? Just curious.

If you are too young to remember Watergate, look it up in detail. It brought down a sitting President. White House Council was disbarred and went to prison. Numerous members of the Executive Branch went to prison - 55 convictions and 15 prison sentences in that time frame, not including the resignation of the President. Even if you include J6, there is no where near the Government impact for all of what you guys are saying is the worst ever combined.

Can that change? Of course, IF something is ever proven and brought to trial. NOT just talked about on the GOP radio shows and Podcast. That is a problem with social media people start to think a Podcast or one document is the same as an investigation, criminal charges and a trial.
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In reply to Yogi • 6:06a, 1/29/25
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.

No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
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In reply to cowboycwr • 6:11a, 1/29/25
cowboycwr said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.


This is the part that really makes no sense and kills several arguments of the left on other topics.

For example on guns. They always say "why do you need an AR15 it won't help you against the government" and yet they act like Jan6 we were just minutes away from the entire government collapsing from unarmed people.

The arguments of the Left generally collapse under serious scrutiny and the application of logic. Often simple common sense is all that's needed ("What is a woman?"). That's one reason they are so adamantly insisting on the need for censorship snd so vehemently hate people like Elon Musk promoting free speech. When people have free discussion of Leftist ideas then they are exposed as ludicrous and unserious. It's an elaborate house of cards built on lies. That's one reason Marxism always fails. Always.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to Chuckroast • 6:16a, 1/29/25
Chuckroast said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
cowboycwr said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.


This is the part that really makes no sense and kills several arguments of the left on other topics.

For example on guns. They always say "why do you need an AR15 it won't help you against the government" and yet they act like Jan6 we were just minutes away from the entire government collapsing from unarmed people.
They're not serious people.

They are authoritarian fascists and January 6 is their Rheichstag Fire ... they had hoped to use it to curtail civil liberties and further punish opponents ... but the democracy kicked the fascists in the balls.



Exactly - people weren't buying it and didn't appreciate their intelligence being insulted.

The irony is that the fascists created Trump the politician with their radicalism and extremism. Their policies made him into a viable alternative to their insanity and all their efforts to persecute & prosecute him made him more popular. The Schadenfreude over their stupidity and arrogance is truly delicious because they have no one to blame except themselves.

I like to see it as a modern example of God using His enemies to advance His plans.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:31a, 1/29/25
I am too young to remember Watergate but I do know the history. I think all the others combined are far more impactful because they involved more crimes over a longer period of time (Watergate was only 1-2 years) and they involved the deaths of innocents over and over again. Aldi, we are still feeling the negative impacts of the fascist corruption that hadn't been prosecuted. That's not nearly as much the case with Watergate.

Finally, the lack of prosecution for the crimes of the Clinton's, Obama's, & Biden's is not an exoneration. One of the main reason Watergate concluded as it did is that Republicans were willing to turn against their own president. I don't think there is a single example of a Dem Congress critter siding against any of the fascist presidents even when the solid evidence is widely available. For example, not one Dem Senator voted to impeach Clinton even though he clearly was a felon (later admitting to his crime, lying under oath). Instead 7 RINO's sided with the fascists. We can joke about the Clinton Crime Syndicate and people Epsteined (I've seen memes on those themes), but there might be potential whistleblowers who are genuinely afraid to come out publicly with evidence.
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In reply to Porteroso • 7:15a, 1/29/25
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historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.

Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.

These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.

Oh this is rich. Your side doesn't care when millions of illegals trespass. You don't even want to call it a crime. Your side and the MSM call them undocumented and say only the criminals should be deported.
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In reply to ScottS • 7:55a, 1/29/25
"only the criminals should be deported"

Every single person who enters the US is a criminal. They all should be deported. Well said, but I don't if the Left actually uses that phrase because the response is so obvious.
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In reply to Chuckroast • 11:00a, 1/29/25
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Not to mention that it was entrapment. They could have had National Guard there to keep the peace, but they were wanting the crowd to get a little out of hand. It completely served the narrative they were trying to create that Trump supporters were reprobates. A few of the protesters were foolish enough to fall for it and got out of hand. Most simply walked through doors that had been opened for them. The crowd believed that being there might encourage Pence not to certify the electoral count… a remedy they believed was lawful. In no way was it an insurrection.

Dems have continued to play the insurrection card all the way up until election day and even now and are simply in disbelief that their gaslighting is not working.
Absolutely correct in every respect.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:43p, 1/29/25
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historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.oK
Ok, "Historian". You are saying that the Clinto Dossier, Benghazi, and the Biden actions against Trump were more impactful than Watergate? Are you a real historian or somebody that likes history? Just curious.

If you are too young to remember Watergate, look it up in detail. It brought down a sitting President. White House Council was disbarred and went to prison. Numerous members of the Executive Branch went to prison - 55 convictions and 15 prison sentences in that time frame, not including the resignation of the President. Even if you include J6, there is no where near the Government impact for all of what you guys are saying is the worst ever combined.

Can that change? Of course, IF something is ever proven and brought to trial. NOT just talked about on the GOP radio shows and Podcast. That is a problem with social media people start to think a Podcast or one document is the same as an investigation, criminal charges and a trial.


It can't be proven in a court of law if the Biden administration is not willing to indict or even investigate. That is one reason why Trump won in such a landslide. Justice was much more equal in the Nixon days than it was under Biden. Justice was an absolute farce under the Biden administration. I think truth seeking people recognize that. Thankfully, the voters did.
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12:56p, 1/29/25
There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?
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There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?


Not sure if this was a rhetorical question, but yes, I heard that he did.
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In reply to Chuckroast • 1:32p, 1/29/25
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ScottS said:
There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?


Not sure if this was a rhetorical question, but yes, I heard that he did.

Not a rhetorical question at all. I didn't know the answer.
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In reply to Chuckroast • 1:38p, 1/29/25
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FLBear5630 said:
historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.oK
Ok, "Historian". You are saying that the Clinto Dossier, Benghazi, and the Biden actions against Trump were more impactful than Watergate? Are you a real historian or somebody that likes history? Just curious.

If you are too young to remember Watergate, look it up in detail. It brought down a sitting President. White House Council was disbarred and went to prison. Numerous members of the Executive Branch went to prison - 55 convictions and 15 prison sentences in that time frame, not including the resignation of the President. Even if you include J6, there is no where near the Government impact for all of what you guys are saying is the worst ever combined.

Can that change? Of course, IF something is ever proven and brought to trial. NOT just talked about on the GOP radio shows and Podcast. That is a problem with social media people start to think a Podcast or one document is the same as an investigation, criminal charges and a trial.


It can't be proven in a court of law if the Biden administration is not willing to indict or even investigate. That is one reason why Trump won in such a landslide. Justice was much more equal in the Nixon days than it was under Biden. Justice was an absolute farce under the Biden administration. I think truth seeking people recognize that. Thankfully, the voters did.
Don't disagree...
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In reply to ScottS • 3:02p, 1/29/25
ScottS said:
There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?

Yes he did.
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In reply to historian • 4:12p, 1/29/25
historian said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.

No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
Doktor History...Don't know if you are a fledgling history teacher or what, but you prolly need to look up the term "Fascist". You use the term indiscriminately in most every post ,, slapping it upon anyone you disagree. I highly suggest you look up the definition of and use it properly.
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In reply to Yogi • 4:13p, 1/29/25
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
They're too late. Analytical thinkers, logicians, found the truth in the anomaly in a heartbeat.
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4:25p, 1/29/25
And another one bites the dust:

Lubbock man granted clemency by Biden arrested; Sheriff Kelly Rowe 'absolutely angry' with former administration's decisions
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In reply to KaiBear • 4:31p, 1/29/25
KaiBear said:
Porteroso said:
historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.

Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.

These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.


Yes

Grandmothers and grandfathers deserved 2-5 months of solitary confinement for trespassing .

Ask your parents to provide you a bloody clue.

Criminals sometimes get punished. Republicans used to understand that. Rules for thee, but not for me, your new motto?
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In reply to Yogi • 4:33p, 1/29/25
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.

Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:40p, 1/29/25
Porteroso said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
You are either digging that hole deeper and deeper, OR, it's almost like you were a Republican, just pulling our leg with all the CNN conspiracy theories. Starting to wonder if this is all an elaborate gag?
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In reply to historian • 4:42p, 1/29/25
historian said:
ScottS said:
There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?

Yes he did.

Legalized murder.
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:47p, 1/29/25
Porteroso said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.

Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
rioters made them do that..

Nobody attempted to take over a govt..

You need serious help
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4:54p, 1/29/25
One of the ads here, wrong team, right colors:

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4:55p, 1/29/25
Oooooooops....looks like former Sen. Mendendez' preemptive pardon slipped through the cracks.......
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In reply to Assassin • 4:59p, 1/29/25
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Porteroso said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
You are either digging that hole deeper and deeper, OR, it's almost like you were a Republican, just pulling our leg with all the CNN conspiracy theories. Starting to wonder if this is all an elaborate gag?

What part is theory?
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 5:01p, 1/29/25
4th and Inches said:
Porteroso said:
Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.

A real insurrection involves guns.

I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.

Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
rioters made them do that..

Nobody attempted to take over a govt..

You need serious help

They recorded themselves saying they wanted to stop the transfer of power. They said they would hang Mike Pence if he didn't throw out the results. They are who need help.

I can understand burying your face in the sand from time to time, but it has been 4 years of coverage on this. Surely you pay some attention?
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In reply to Porteroso • 5:03p, 1/29/25
Porteroso said:
KaiBear said:
Porteroso said:
historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.

Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.

These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.


Yes

Grandmothers and grandfathers deserved 2-5 months of solitary confinement for trespassing .

Ask your parents to provide you a bloody clue.

Criminals sometimes get punished. Republicans used to understand that. Rules for thee, but not for me, your new motto?


Address Biden's 1000s of pardons that even your side has condemned. You have no respect from anyone... probably not even yourself.

Most corrupt justice department ever under Biden.
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