boognish_bear said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) November 6, 2025
Reuters reports that Trump is preparing to establish U.S. military presence at an airbase in Damascus
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Good grief……why ?
boognish_bear said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) November 6, 2025
Reuters reports that Trump is preparing to establish U.S. military presence at an airbase in Damascus
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Ted Cruz: "I think right now the 2 frontrunners for the Democratic nomination in 2028 are AOC and Mamdani. Now, he's not even eligible, but what do they care? Law doesn't mean anything to them. That's where their party is." pic.twitter.com/zSlwbyhmUx
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 6, 2025
Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 6, 2025
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BREAKING: Deal is near to reopen the government, per Politico.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 6, 2025
boognish_bear said:
Damn homieJUST IN: Tesla $TSLA shareholders approve Elon Musk's $1 trillion pay package. pic.twitter.com/FEfEj7I7Jz
— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) November 6, 2025
Ben Shapiro on if the Supreme Court strikes down President Trump’s global sweeping tariffs: “Watch the stock market absolutely explode. Seriously, you will watch the S&P 500 jump like nobody’s business, and the president will be in the awkward position of having to explain why… pic.twitter.com/QLEoz2VZZu
— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) November 6, 2025
Ben Shapiro: “I think the Senate filibuster is actually quite important because if you do not have the Senate filibuster, what you end up with is a country that is already pendulumingside to side, doing so even farther with 51 votes in the Senate.”
— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) November 6, 2025
“Ramming through massive… pic.twitter.com/PCEGoLKy7N
boognish_bear said:Ben Shapiro on if the Supreme Court strikes down President Trump’s global sweeping tariffs: “Watch the stock market absolutely explode. Seriously, you will watch the S&P 500 jump like nobody’s business, and the president will be in the awkward position of having to explain why… pic.twitter.com/QLEoz2VZZu
— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) November 6, 2025
Trump on SNAP: "Our country has to remain very liquid because problems, catastrophes, wars -- it could be anything. We have to remain liquid. We can't give everything away." pic.twitter.com/mMv4n7o12h
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 7, 2025
This sociopath is literally saying, "Yeah, I'm making billions building up a bubble, but that's okay, because when it bursts, the American taxpayers will bail me out, so I can keep making more billions." Hard to even find words for the depravity of these MFers. https://t.co/NePFqYJfaG
— Aaron Regunberg (@AaronRegunberg) November 6, 2025
Walmart CEO: "25% less than the basket we had last year." https://t.co/dDeBPFPisI pic.twitter.com/GkHEaUqktV
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) November 6, 2025
Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:
We are a very impatient people. The foundation of the economy is much better than it was last year. Unfortunately, we haven't started seeing the wall framing going up yet.
Most of our older generations worked their way up the ladder to gain whatever success they had as their goal. Post WWII generations - all of them - were blessed with a lot more opportunities than people before that war. A younger generation that sees a time of contraction gets nervous that they won't have those same opportunities. The vast majority of them are not starving, but they are having a harder time getting started than their parents.
Gen X faced this coming out of the rampant inflation of the late 70's and the booming cost of housing. This is not new, except to the ones who haven't experienced it - the younger generation of the time.
We still live in a place with a lot more opportunities than just about any other. We just had a misguided couple of administrations weakening the economic foundations of the country. The last one in particular. It will take more than 8 months to get the economy turned.
What about the "foundation of the economy" is stronger? Any perceived foundational improvements are built upon paper. Tariffs might be taken away by SCOTUS or Congress at any point.
Until the investment happens and manufacturing is actually brought back, any perceived improvement is a simple function of a new tax levied upon those that were already struggling.
As Ford proved, you can build billion dollar factories and still make more money not using them, than using them. For jobs to have been created by Japanese investments, they have to actually he created. Until then it is a big gamble.
American workers can not compete with slave wages in the 3rd world.
Or unfair protectionist practices by our geo-strategic adversaries (China) and even our allies....who protect their markets and workers....while exploiting ours
So you either give up and accept that manufacturing jobs will be expelled to other countries (including military rivals) or you do something like tariffs to even the playing field for American companies and workers.
For 30 plus years we have done nothing.....Trump is using Tariffs
Do you have another idea?
PS.....Even the Atlantic magazine has now realized if you can't build ships (or build other things) then you are going to lose a war against a large country that can. And you will also lose the ability to protect yourself and your allies
[China's shipbuilding industry is significantly larger and more dominant globally than that of the United States, which has a minimal share of the commercial market. China's capacity is estimated to be over 200 times that of the U.S. and builds thousands of commercial vessels annually compared to the U.S.'s small output]
[The USA built only two U.S. Navy ships and five commercial merchant ships in 2024.... The US built approximately 500 merchant ships alone in just 1942 and by the end of the war American shipyards had produced 5,788 warships and 66,000 landing craft. Along with thousands of merchant ships to carry goods to allied nations]
I understand the dilemma. It would be great if we could simply talk to every other nation and convince them to band together to make China play fair. But impossible.
All I'm saying is that we have a new tax upon Americans called tariffs, and very little benefit so far. The tariff is the foundation you can build manufacturing up on, but it can be taken away by Congress at any time. Or the Supreme Court, in the next few days.
The American worker really can't compete against the zero wages of robotics and Ai. I'm for creating more domestic production. But let's stop selling the fantasy of jobs around it to try and tax the marketplace.Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:
We are a very impatient people. The foundation of the economy is much better than it was last year. Unfortunately, we haven't started seeing the wall framing going up yet.
Most of our older generations worked their way up the ladder to gain whatever success they had as their goal. Post WWII generations - all of them - were blessed with a lot more opportunities than people before that war. A younger generation that sees a time of contraction gets nervous that they won't have those same opportunities. The vast majority of them are not starving, but they are having a harder time getting started than their parents.
Gen X faced this coming out of the rampant inflation of the late 70's and the booming cost of housing. This is not new, except to the ones who haven't experienced it - the younger generation of the time.
We still live in a place with a lot more opportunities than just about any other. We just had a misguided couple of administrations weakening the economic foundations of the country. The last one in particular. It will take more than 8 months to get the economy turned.
What about the "foundation of the economy" is stronger? Any perceived foundational improvements are built upon paper. Tariffs might be taken away by SCOTUS or Congress at any point.
Until the investment happens and manufacturing is actually brought back, any perceived improvement is a simple function of a new tax levied upon those that were already struggling.
As Ford proved, you can build billion dollar factories and still make more money not using them, than using them. For jobs to have been created by Japanese investments, they have to actually he created. Until then it is a big gamble.
American workers can not compete with slave wages in the 3rd world.
Or unfair protectionist practices by our geo-strategic adversaries (China) and even our allies....who protect their markets and workers....while exploiting ours
So you either give up and accept that manufacturing jobs will be expelled to other countries (including military rivals) or you do something like tariffs to even the playing field for American companies and workers.
For 30 plus years we have done nothing.....Trump is using Tariffs
Do you have another idea?
PS.....Even the Atlantic magazine has now realized if you can't build ships (or build other things) then you are going to lose a war against a large country that can. And you will also lose the ability to protect yourself and your allies
[China's shipbuilding industry is significantly larger and more dominant globally than that of the United States, which has a minimal share of the commercial market. China's capacity is estimated to be over 200 times that of the U.S. and builds thousands of commercial vessels annually compared to the U.S.'s small output]
[The USA built only two U.S. Navy ships and five commercial merchant ships in 2024.... The US built approximately 500 merchant ships alone in just 1942 and by the end of the war American shipyards had produced 5,788 warships and 66,000 landing craft. Along with thousands of merchant ships to carry goods to allied nations]
KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) November 6, 2025
Reuters reports that Trump is preparing to establish U.S. military presence at an airbase in Damascus
🇺🇸🇸🇾 pic.twitter.com/G6UpnMwYz9
Good grief……why ?
nein51 said:
What do you mean by low wages?
If only it were that easy.whiterock said:nein51 said:
What do you mean by low wages?
Those baristas at Starbucks would make a lot more money building ships than artisinal offerings of caffeine.
ATL Bear said:whiterock said:nein51 said:
What do you mean by low wages?
Those baristas at Starbucks would make a lot more money building ships than artisinal offerings of caffeine.
If only it were that easy.
BREAKING: Elise Stefanik officially files to run for New York governor, calling Hochul the 'worst governor in America' pic.twitter.com/QubzzeSwAv
— Fox News (@FoxNews) November 7, 2025
They're doing very little to solve the fundamental issues, especially the long term ones, and slapped on a jingoistic bandaid of higher costs for Americans and American businesses while creating global economic volatility.whiterock said:ATL Bear said:whiterock said:nein51 said:
What do you mean by low wages?
Those baristas at Starbucks would make a lot more money building ships than artisinal offerings of caffeine.
If only it were that easy.
You are correct.
It is not that easy.
But it is that simple.
We have decades of supremely harmful, downright suicidal trade policy damage to overcome. It will not happen quickly. It won't happen at all if we don't recognize our mistakes and take immediate remedial action. Fortunately, we have an administration who's working the problem well and with alacrity.
JUST IN: 🇺🇸 Taxpayers may see record tax refunds in 2026 due to President Trump's 'big beautiful bill,' CNBC reports.
— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) November 7, 2025
John Fetterman: "You're losing politically if you're telling people to not believe what their eyes are seeing."pic.twitter.com/nklWHElgvP
— Joe Rogan Podcast News (@joeroganhq) November 7, 2025
KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) November 6, 2025
Reuters reports that Trump is preparing to establish U.S. military presence at an airbase in Damascus
🇺🇸🇸🇾 pic.twitter.com/G6UpnMwYz9
Good grief……why ?
boognish_bear said:JUST IN: 🇺🇸 Taxpayers may see record tax refunds in 2026 due to President Trump's 'big beautiful bill,' CNBC reports.
— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) November 7, 2025
ATL Bear said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:
We are a very impatient people. The foundation of the economy is much better than it was last year. Unfortunately, we haven't started seeing the wall framing going up yet.
Most of our older generations worked their way up the ladder to gain whatever success they had as their goal. Post WWII generations - all of them - were blessed with a lot more opportunities than people before that war. A younger generation that sees a time of contraction gets nervous that they won't have those same opportunities. The vast majority of them are not starving, but they are having a harder time getting started than their parents.
Gen X faced this coming out of the rampant inflation of the late 70's and the booming cost of housing. This is not new, except to the ones who haven't experienced it - the younger generation of the time.
We still live in a place with a lot more opportunities than just about any other. We just had a misguided couple of administrations weakening the economic foundations of the country. The last one in particular. It will take more than 8 months to get the economy turned.
What about the "foundation of the economy" is stronger? Any perceived foundational improvements are built upon paper. Tariffs might be taken away by SCOTUS or Congress at any point.
Until the investment happens and manufacturing is actually brought back, any perceived improvement is a simple function of a new tax levied upon those that were already struggling.
As Ford proved, you can build billion dollar factories and still make more money not using them, than using them. For jobs to have been created by Japanese investments, they have to actually he created. Until then it is a big gamble.
American workers can not compete with slave wages in the 3rd world.
Or unfair protectionist practices by our geo-strategic adversaries (China) and even our allies....who protect their markets and workers....while exploiting ours
So you either give up and accept that manufacturing jobs will be expelled to other countries (including military rivals) or you do something like tariffs to even the playing field for American companies and workers.
For 30 plus years we have done nothing.....Trump is using Tariffs
Do you have another idea?
PS.....Even the Atlantic magazine has now realized if you can't build ships (or build other things) then you are going to lose a war against a large country that can. And you will also lose the ability to protect yourself and your allies
[China's shipbuilding industry is significantly larger and more dominant globally than that of the United States, which has a minimal share of the commercial market. China's capacity is estimated to be over 200 times that of the U.S. and builds thousands of commercial vessels annually compared to the U.S.'s small output]
[The USA built only two U.S. Navy ships and five commercial merchant ships in 2024.... The US built approximately 500 merchant ships alone in just 1942 and by the end of the war American shipyards had produced 5,788 warships and 66,000 landing craft. Along with thousands of merchant ships to carry goods to allied nations]
The American worker really can't compete against the zero wages of robotics and Ai. I'm for creating more domestic production. But let's stop selling the fantasy of jobs around it to try and tax the marketplace.
And if ship building is ever going to happen, we need some huge regulatory adjustments, and a workforce that actually can and wants to participate in it.
EatMoreSalmon said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:
We are a very impatient people. The foundation of the economy is much better than it was last year. Unfortunately, we haven't started seeing the wall framing going up yet.
Most of our older generations worked their way up the ladder to gain whatever success they had as their goal. Post WWII generations - all of them - were blessed with a lot more opportunities than people before that war. A younger generation that sees a time of contraction gets nervous that they won't have those same opportunities. The vast majority of them are not starving, but they are having a harder time getting started than their parents.
Gen X faced this coming out of the rampant inflation of the late 70's and the booming cost of housing. This is not new, except to the ones who haven't experienced it - the younger generation of the time.
We still live in a place with a lot more opportunities than just about any other. We just had a misguided couple of administrations weakening the economic foundations of the country. The last one in particular. It will take more than 8 months to get the economy turned.
What about the "foundation of the economy" is stronger? Any perceived foundational improvements are built upon paper. Tariffs might be taken away by SCOTUS or Congress at any point.
Until the investment happens and manufacturing is actually brought back, any perceived improvement is a simple function of a new tax levied upon those that were already struggling.
As Ford proved, you can build billion dollar factories and still make more money not using them, than using them. For jobs to have been created by Japanese investments, they have to actually he created. Until then it is a big gamble.
American workers can not compete with slave wages in the 3rd world.
Or unfair protectionist practices by our geo-strategic adversaries (China) and even our allies....who protect their markets and workers....while exploiting ours
So you either give up and accept that manufacturing jobs will be expelled to other countries (including military rivals) or you do something like tariffs to even the playing field for American companies and workers.
For 30 plus years we have done nothing.....Trump is using Tariffs
Do you have another idea?
PS.....Even the Atlantic magazine has now realized if you can't build ships (or build other things) then you are going to lose a war against a large country that can. And you will also lose the ability to protect yourself and your allies
[China's shipbuilding industry is significantly larger and more dominant globally than that of the United States, which has a minimal share of the commercial market. China's capacity is estimated to be over 200 times that of the U.S. and builds thousands of commercial vessels annually compared to the U.S.'s small output]
[The USA built only two U.S. Navy ships and five commercial merchant ships in 2024.... The US built approximately 500 merchant ships alone in just 1942 and by the end of the war American shipyards had produced 5,788 warships and 66,000 landing craft. Along with thousands of merchant ships to carry goods to allied nations]
I understand the dilemma. It would be great if we could simply talk to every other nation and convince them to band together to make China play fair. But impossible.
All I'm saying is that we have a new tax upon Americans called tariffs, and very little benefit so far. The tariff is the foundation you can build manufacturing up on, but it can be taken away by Congress at any time. Or the Supreme Court, in the next few days.
What you're saying is you don't like the taste of the medicine to cure the illness.
boognish_bear said:Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 6, 2025
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Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:EatMoreSalmon said:
We are a very impatient people. The foundation of the economy is much better than it was last year. Unfortunately, we haven't started seeing the wall framing going up yet.
Most of our older generations worked their way up the ladder to gain whatever success they had as their goal. Post WWII generations - all of them - were blessed with a lot more opportunities than people before that war. A younger generation that sees a time of contraction gets nervous that they won't have those same opportunities. The vast majority of them are not starving, but they are having a harder time getting started than their parents.
Gen X faced this coming out of the rampant inflation of the late 70's and the booming cost of housing. This is not new, except to the ones who haven't experienced it - the younger generation of the time.
We still live in a place with a lot more opportunities than just about any other. We just had a misguided couple of administrations weakening the economic foundations of the country. The last one in particular. It will take more than 8 months to get the economy turned.
What about the "foundation of the economy" is stronger? Any perceived foundational improvements are built upon paper. Tariffs might be taken away by SCOTUS or Congress at any point.
Until the investment happens and manufacturing is actually brought back, any perceived improvement is a simple function of a new tax levied upon those that were already struggling.
As Ford proved, you can build billion dollar factories and still make more money not using them, than using them. For jobs to have been created by Japanese investments, they have to actually he created. Until then it is a big gamble.
American workers can not compete with slave wages in the 3rd world.
Or unfair protectionist practices by our geo-strategic adversaries (China) and even our allies....who protect their markets and workers....while exploiting ours
So you either give up and accept that manufacturing jobs will be expelled to other countries (including military rivals) or you do something like tariffs to even the playing field for American companies and workers.
For 30 plus years we have done nothing.....Trump is using Tariffs
Do you have another idea?
PS.....Even the Atlantic magazine has now realized if you can't build ships (or build other things) then you are going to lose a war against a large country that can. And you will also lose the ability to protect yourself and your allies
[China's shipbuilding industry is significantly larger and more dominant globally than that of the United States, which has a minimal share of the commercial market. China's capacity is estimated to be over 200 times that of the U.S. and builds thousands of commercial vessels annually compared to the U.S.'s small output]
[The USA built only two U.S. Navy ships and five commercial merchant ships in 2024.... The US built approximately 500 merchant ships alone in just 1942 and by the end of the war American shipyards had produced 5,788 warships and 66,000 landing craft. Along with thousands of merchant ships to carry goods to allied nations]
I understand the dilemma. It would be great if we could simply talk to every other nation and convince them to band together to make China play fair. But impossible.
All I'm saying is that we have a new tax upon Americans called tariffs, and very little benefit so far. The tariff is the foundation you can build manufacturing up on, but it can be taken away by Congress at any time. Or the Supreme Court, in the next few days.
What you're saying is you don't like the taste of the medicine to cure the illness.
Constant expansion of executive power is an illness of its own. Used to be every conservative would agree.
Had Trump gotten Congress to participate in these negotiations, and had them set the tariff rate, I would be much less against it.
Just do what the Constitution says, and there is much less argument against you. Trump is trying to take maximum power for himself through every loophole he knows of, and I do not agree with that no matter who is President.
Porteroso said:boognish_bear said:Steve Bannon: If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included.
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) November 6, 2025
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Both parties upping the ante on politicizing the DOJ. Trump clearly trying to do it even more than Biden did, and guess what the Dems will do once they get back into power?
It’s a conservative principle that passing laws and spending money should require more than a majority.
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 7, 2025
If you make it easier to pass laws and spend money, you’ll get more of both.
This is why the Senate should not nuke the filibuster. It will come back to bite us.
The media is getting it all wrong about @RepMTG. Since she is defying Trump from time to time, they're asking if she is becoming less MAGA. No, her positions are more MAGA, not less. Release Epstein Files, America First not Israel First, Lower Prices, More Affordable Healthcare.…
— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) November 7, 2025
Reporter: On the Walmart thanksgiving meal, it is cheaper but it also contains less
— Acyn (@Acyn) November 7, 2025
Trump: I haven’t heard that. Who are you with?
Reporter: NBC
Trump: Fake news pic.twitter.com/QZt8PaP4nW
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum just said fighting a war against drug cartels is unlawful because it would violate the rights of drug traffickers and it would be "fascist."
— George (@BehizyTweets) November 6, 2025
"Returning to the war against the narco is not an option. First, because it is outside the framework… pic.twitter.com/yxv5q83HwF