come on Assman.. just what in the hell do you think your Furor is doing trotting around the Middle East doing deals? It's called globalism. We cannot and will not be isolationist. You have to be in the game. We aint all that!Harrison Bergeron said:I think for many, "Globalist" has become a loaded term, and one can argue whether or not that is fair. Literally, we have been a globalist nation since the Spanish-American War and went all in when we entered World War I. I think you're correct that when people use "Globalist" as a pejorative term, it is in the context of control ... submitting U.S. interests to the interest of said "Globalists." This tends to express itself in desire for social control.Assassin said:I will let you simmer with the FL definition of globalism. For me, it resides with George Soros, One World Order, Klaus Schwab, Open Society, the EU and all the other players that want absolute control of everything.FLBear5630 said:Gift to Trump? I know it is not personal gift. The US does not need Qatar to give us a plane. Nice gesture, but the answer should be we are fine. No thank you. Ok, you know about the plane.Assassin said:Globalism as a concept dates from the 1940s. In the 21st century, the term "the globalists" was popularized by Alex Jones, and used interchangeably with the concepts of a New World Order and the deep state.FLBear5630 said:You guys are the Party of labels. You can be doing the same actions, but re-label it. You seem more interested in defining the label for whatever it is you are doing more than looking at what is being done! It is amazing.Assassin said:It is still not globalism, which is your argument. Not in the least. Working with other nations is smart economic policy and the opposite of isolationism which the left keeps saying we are becomingFLBear5630 said:No, you guys keep changing the definitions based on what the narrative Trump wants to put out. Trump's words:Assassin said:So you don't understand globalism. The difference between the One World Order and the world's largest economic power doing new deals. I understandFLBear5630 said:Going to the middle east and asking for money, playing peacemaker in Ukraine, Iran, Yemen and India, threatening to invade Greenland, and taking gifts from countries. Sure glad we are not involved around the world anymore. Thank God we don't have a NeoCon Globalist in power getting us involved around the world...Assassin said:Globalism; the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.FLBear5630 said:Yeah, that's it....Assassin said:Massive difference between the Open Society running the world and America/Saudi and everyone else controlling their own fatesFLBear5630 said:What happened to Globalism is bad? Isn't selling America to foreigners Globalist? Or does that not count? Or does it not count if it is Trump?Assassin said:Sometimes I am prophetic. I try not to make a big deal out of it...boognish_bear said:Assassin said:It would be nice if they would just round it up to 1 trillion...boognish_bear said:
That's a lot of BsJUST IN: 🇸🇦🇺🇸 Saudi Arabia to invest $600 billion in the United States.
— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) May 13, 2025JUST IN: 🇸🇦🇺🇸 Saudi Arabia to work on boosting U.S investments to a staggering $1 trillion. pic.twitter.com/Dn0pTPzIKp
— Whale Insider (@WhaleInsider) May 13, 2025
"America is governed by Americans," he said on the opening day of the Assembly's annual General Debate. "We reject the ideology of globalism, and we embrace the doctrine of patriotism. Around the world, responsible nations must defend against threats to sovereignty not just from global governance, but also from other, new forms of coercion and domination."
So, accepting gifts, threatening to take Greenland, being embroiled in every war in the world, and asking for trillions of dollars from anyone that will give it. (Remember how you guys were Anti-Saudi in the past?) These are not forms of coercion and threats? How is this different, besides you changing the definitions of same old- same old to fit the new agenda?
Trump is taking billions of dollars and gifts from the Middle East, yet that is not "Globalism". The US 7th Fleet (I think it is the 7th out of Bharain) is in an active war with the Houthi's and we are threatening Iran at the behest of the Saudi's. How is this any different? We are now out and out mercenaries. If you don't have cash, we will take a airplane or golf clubs. You guys actually don't see this as part of Globalism?
Globalism - a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence
That is not what we are doing by setting up economic treaties with other nations. And please prove that "Trump is taking billions of dollars and gifts from the Middle East". Please note that investments in the USA are not the same as a gift to Trump...
Where are the Saudi's investing a Trillion dollars and what are we doing in the Region? THAT is the Globalit question. We are in a shooting war right now with the Saudi's enemies. We are coming down on Iran at the Saudi behest. What are we doing for the Trillion dollars? If you want to answer the Globalist question, you have to look at the whole equation.
We are a Globalist Nation and have been for over 100 years. I would say Roosevelt's Great White Fleet started this off. I have no issues with Globalism, especially moving forward. There is strength in numbers.
You guys changing definitions drive me nuts. It is what it is. Biden made decisions that were bad for the Nation. That doesn't mean Trump can't do the same things, better. It is all the same in trade and foreign policy. These are not as black and white as immigration which he is killing it. Love it! Love Noem going to Congress. Trump has been a great immigration President.