Trump Shuts Down USAID

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Six months ago you Trumpkins were saying there was no need to worry about Trump violating the law because the courts would keep him in check. Now you're saying he should defy the courts and imprison the judges. This is why some of us were concerned about fascism.

Totally predictable and predicted.
the courts are designed to keep congress and exectutive in check.. who keeps the courts in check?
Congress and the executive, working together to pass laws and appoint judges. Not a rogue executive defying the law and imprisoning his enemies, as some here seem to wish.
The President can just ignore court orders.


If the right becomes fascist, you can blame the left and everyone that didn't stand up to their bs. The right has been the "play fair" team for years and it's only screwed them. You moderates didn't say a damn thing and you didn't stop the left…but now you're concerned? Please.
As I have stated 1,000 times, lots of the support of Trump is the reaction to Democrat hypocrisy.
Duh.

Hypocrisy begets hypocrisy.
Incorrect. The Democrats break virtually all of the norms and then feign outrage when they GOP follows their rules. I am not surprised you confound discretionary spending inside the executive branch to buying votes by illegally forgiving student loans.
Every whataboutism is an admission of hypocrisy.

We can agree that the GOP is no better than the Dems (contrary to what everyone claimed to believe during the campaign).


Dumb dumb statement. One of your worst. How many right-wing causes was usaid frauding the taxpayers out of? How many supreme court rulings has Trump ignored? How many right-wing spooks continually lied to keep democrats outbof office? How many right-wing politicians are trying to get dudes in women's sports? For you to say the 2 parties are the same exposes you for the evil that you are.
It was Harrison who said it. I just agreed with him.

You've got a lot to learn about USAID if you don't think they support right-wing criminals and spooks.


Yeah, tons of fraud coming out of usaid going to right-wing causes. /s

You've got a lot of catching up to do.

Way to deflect the fact that you think republicans and democrats are both equally bad.
I'm not deflecting from it at all. I just said I agreed with it.

Y'all are the ones who claim the moral high ground and then say "well, we're just following the Democratic playbook" whenever you get called out. Make up your mind.


So do you think republicans and democrats are equally criminal and evil as each other?
On balance, yes. Each is worse than the other in particular ways.

The problem with Trump is not that he's uniquely evil, but he's inclined to cross certain boundaries that can't be uncrossed.


Let me guess, Kamala wrote that for you.

Try putting together a string of words that actually mean something
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The tit dried up and they panicked

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The tit dried up and they panicked




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The tit dried up and they panicked



When DOGE found empty fields in Treasury's payment system, they uncovered more than missing data. They found a mechanism.

Simple things were left blank:
Payment categories
Payment rationales
Basic audit controls
The kind of fields any small business would require. The kind that let you track where money goes. The kind that stop a billion dollars of fraud. Every week.
Here's what Treasury didn't want exposed:
Over $100 billion flowing annually to accounts without Social Security numbers. No temporary ID numbers. No verification. Nothing. When Musk asked Treasury officials how much was "unequivocal and obvious fraud," the answer revealed decades of corruption: Half.
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Let that sink in.
$50 billion per year.
A billion dollars every week disappearing into accounts that shouldn't exist.
The kind of fraud that would shut down any bank in America. The kind that would land any business owner in federal prison.
But Treasury had perfected its system:
Process payments
Ignore controls
Keep the machine running
Late last week, something shifted.
A judge's order appeared, ex partemeaning only one side could speak. No warning. No defense allowed. Just a wall erected between Treasury officials and their own department's data.
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Look at the numbers. Really look at them.
Treasury bleeds 23.87% of its budget to waste, fraud, and abuse.
Almost a quarter, vanishing into what auditors politely call "mismanagement." More than Labor at 11%. More than Veterans Affairs at 10%. More than Agriculture at 9%.
More than Defense Department's 1.85%. More than Homeland Security's 0.89%.
A pattern emerges. The deeper you go into Treasury's operations, the more the waste grows. The more controls vanish. The more fraud flourishes.
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Until now.
"Everything at Treasury was geared towards complaint minimization," Musk revealed after meeting with officials. Not accuracy. Not accountability. Not protecting taxpayer dollars. Just keeping the machine quiet.
This wasn't incompetence. This was design. Previous management had built a perfect system: Let the fraudsters complain. Let them threaten. Let them pressure. Easier to process bad payments than face their wrath.
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Think about that calculation. A billion dollars of fraud every week was deemed less costly than dealing with complaints from people gaming the system.
That's how machines like this protect themselves. Not through efficiency. Not through good management. But through the path of least resistance. Through empty fields and missing controls and payments without Social Security numbers. Through a quarter of their budget disappearing into the void.
Until someone starts asking where it goes.
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The system's response was swift.
Coordinated.
Precise.
Nineteen Democratic state attorneys general filed suit. Not about the fraud. Not about the waste. Not about billions vanishing into accounts without SSNs. But about "protecting" the Treasury Department from its own Secretary.
A judge in New York responded with something unprecedented: an ex parte order blocking Treasury officials from accessing their own department's data. No warning. No chance to respond. No opportunity to present evidence. Just a wall between the people elected to fix the system and the system itself.
Think about what that means: The Secretary of the Treasuryeffectively the CFO of the United States governmentlegally barred from seeing how money moves through his own department. The people's appointee blocked from viewing the people's accounts. Young coders mapping the missing controls ordered to stop looking.
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The MACHINE has judges. Has lawyers. Has media. Has entire states moving in coordination.
But here's what makes this time different: The DOGE clock keeps ticking.
$74 billion saved and counting.
Each number representing not just dollars, but holes in the machine.
Gaps in the armor.
Places where light gets in.
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They can file motions.
Can issue orders.
Can build blockades.
But they can't make those empty fields disappear. Can't hide a quarter of Treasury's budget vanishing into the void. Can't stop what happens when people finally see truth.
This isn't about spreadsheets anymore. This isn't about waste or controls or management. This is about who controls the machine.
Because when you find something like empty fields in Treasury's payment system, you're not just finding missing data. You're finding purpose. When basic controls sit blank while billions vanish weekly, that's not incompetence. That's design.
The machine is fighting back.
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But this time, it's fighting years and years and years of gathered light. Now activated.
And summer is coming.

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I feel like all of this is headed to the Supreme Court. And....I don't see how fraud would carry the day with the Supremes. But if the deep state is big enough, who knows.
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ScottS said:

I feel like all of this is headed to the Supreme Court. And....I don't see how fraud would carry the day with the Supremes. But if the deep state is big enough, who knows.


I think it is big enough, but there are times when it's not worth the exposure. They may choose to wait and rebuild. Afterall it's clear that Americans are easy to manipulate. Progressive voters are living proof of that.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-death-of-usaid-heralds-the-end-of-nation-building/

[The Death of USAID Heralds the End of Nation-Building

Conservatives in government have long watched in exasperation as the agency thumbed its nose at the U.S. national interest.

For years, many career officials in foreign affairs, including this author, observed firsthand as the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) fought bureaucratic battles within the government to protect its turf, budgets, and pet projectsoften with little or no interest in advancing U.S. objectives in target countries. By shuttering USAID, President Donald Trump is not only saving taxpayers billions of dollars but also disbanding a uniquely self-interested bureaucracy with an ideological agenda. The USAID motto "from the American people" stopped ringing true many decades ago....]
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Dems seems to be willing to fight in the streets to save the corruption that flows to them.
Doc Holliday
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Sam Lowry said:

Married A Horn said:

Sam Lowry said:

Married A Horn said:

Sam Lowry said:

Married A Horn said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

Six months ago you Trumpkins were saying there was no need to worry about Trump violating the law because the courts would keep him in check. Now you're saying he should defy the courts and imprison the judges. This is why some of us were concerned about fascism.

Totally predictable and predicted.
the courts are designed to keep congress and exectutive in check.. who keeps the courts in check?
Congress and the executive, working together to pass laws and appoint judges. Not a rogue executive defying the law and imprisoning his enemies, as some here seem to wish.
The President can just ignore court orders.


If the right becomes fascist, you can blame the left and everyone that didn't stand up to their bs. The right has been the "play fair" team for years and it's only screwed them. You moderates didn't say a damn thing and you didn't stop the left…but now you're concerned? Please.
As I have stated 1,000 times, lots of the support of Trump is the reaction to Democrat hypocrisy.
Duh.

Hypocrisy begets hypocrisy.
Incorrect. The Democrats break virtually all of the norms and then feign outrage when they GOP follows their rules. I am not surprised you confound discretionary spending inside the executive branch to buying votes by illegally forgiving student loans.
Every whataboutism is an admission of hypocrisy.

We can agree that the GOP is no better than the Dems (contrary to what everyone claimed to believe during the campaign).


Dumb dumb statement. One of your worst. How many right-wing causes was usaid frauding the taxpayers out of? How many supreme court rulings has Trump ignored? How many right-wing spooks continually lied to keep democrats outbof office? How many right-wing politicians are trying to get dudes in women's sports? For you to say the 2 parties are the same exposes you for the evil that you are.
It was Harrison who said it. I just agreed with him.

You've got a lot to learn about USAID if you don't think they support right-wing criminals and spooks.


Yeah, tons of fraud coming out of usaid going to right-wing causes. /s

You've got a lot of catching up to do.

Way to deflect the fact that you think republicans and democrats are both equally bad.
I'm not deflecting from it at all. I just said I agreed with it.

Y'all are the ones who claim the moral high ground and then say "well, we're just following the Democratic playbook" whenever you get called out. Make up your mind.


So do you think republicans and democrats are equally criminal and evil as each other?
On balance, yes. Each is worse than the other in particular ways.

The problem with Trump is not that he's uniquely evil, but he's inclined to cross certain boundaries that can't be uncrossed.
What's evil is that we have a full blown kleptocracy in D.C. and for some reason you're not concerned about it and you look forward to the continuation of it.

The difference between us is that I realize there's a sinister motivation behind these corrupt judges and you don't have that dog in you that wants to bite back. You don't put your foot down and you don't fight back because you're scared.
 
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