I never thought there was a client list like a detailed registry of people, dates, etc. like an appointment log for like say a barber, doctor, etc.

What I did think was that through tracking numerous files, flight logs, payments, etc. the FBI was able to gather who was paying for these children GM trafficked to go to prison for. Sort of the same way they figure out who clients are for other criminal activities by going through "the books" to piece together the information.

I find it hard to believe he never kept any sort of information to track who was paying/owed what, why, etc.

sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-years-including-2024-campaign-trail/story?id=123778541

2024: Trump asked about Epstein on the campaign trail

In June 2024, Trump was asked if he would release various files -- including the John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. assassination files and the Epstein files -- during an interview with Fox News.

"Would you declassify the Epstein files?" Fox News' Rachel Campos-Duffy asked. Trump responded, "Yeah, yeah, I would."

That clip was circulated widely online, including by the Trump War Room -- the social media account of Trump's campaign operation. The account posted it to X with the caption: "President Trump says he will DECLASSIFY the 9/11 Files, JFK Files, and Epstein Files."

But Trump's full answer to the question wasn't shown until it played on Will Cain's radio show.

Trump went on to say in the exchange with Campos-Duffy: "I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died. It'd be interesting to find out what happened there, because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, etc., etc. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one."

In September 2024, Trump made a more firm pledge to release Epstein files during a podcast with Lex Fridman.

Fridman, in conversation with Trump, said "it's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public."

"It's very interesting, isn't it? It probably will be, by the way, probably," Trump said.

"If you're able to, you'll be --" Fridman started before Trump jumped in.

"Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago," Trump said. "They do that for danger too, because it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera, so Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing but I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it."

sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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Below I've quoted a Fox News article that references Bondi making reference to a "list" in February.

In February Fox News was left with the impression Bondi said she had the list. Now 5 months later Leavitt tries to make a distinction that Bondi didn't mean an actual list.

If you want to grant the benefit of the doubt there and say that Bondi was misunderstood why would she let the headlines announce a client list and let all the podcasts get fired up without quickly coming back out and saying...hold up...I haven't said anything about a list yet. Why let that massive misunderstanding fester and brew for 5 months?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-died-suicide-did-not-have-client-list-doj-memo

On Feb. 21, Attorney General Pamela Bondi told "America Reports" host John Roberts that she was in possession of the "client list."

"It's sitting on my desk right now to review," she said at the time. "That's been a directive by President Trump."

In an exchange with White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt on Monday, Fox News' Peter Doocy asked about the apparent contradiction.

"So, the FBI looks at the circumstance surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein," Doocy said. "According to the report, 'this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.' So what happened to the Epstein client list that the attorney general said she had on her desk?"

"Well I think that if you go back and look at what the attorney general said, in that interview which was on your network, on Fox News " Leavitt said.

"I've got the quote," Doocy said. "John Roberts said, 'DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Espstein's clients. Will that really happen?' And she said, 'It's sitting on my desk right now for review.'"

"Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, of all of the papers in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes," Leavitt said. "That's what the attorney general was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that. But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars."

sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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This was just from June when Vance on Theo Von's podcast said "Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list, that is an important thing."

boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

---

Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-years-including-2024-campaign-trail/story?id=123778541

2024: Trump asked about Epstein on the campaign trail

In June 2024, Trump was asked if he would release various files -- including the John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. assassination files and the Epstein files -- during an interview with Fox News.

"Would you declassify the Epstein files?" Fox News' Rachel Campos-Duffy asked. Trump responded, "Yeah, yeah, I would."

That clip was circulated widely online, including by the Trump War Room -- the social media account of Trump's campaign operation. The account posted it to X with the caption: "President Trump says he will DECLASSIFY the 9/11 Files, JFK Files, and Epstein Files."

But Trump's full answer to the question wasn't shown until it played on Will Cain's radio show.

Trump went on to say in the exchange with Campos-Duffy: "I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died. It'd be interesting to find out what happened there, because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, etc., etc. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one."

In September 2024, Trump made a more firm pledge to release Epstein files during a podcast with Lex Fridman.

Fridman, in conversation with Trump, said "it's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public."

"It's very interesting, isn't it? It probably will be, by the way, probably," Trump said.

"If you're able to, you'll be --" Fridman started before Trump jumped in.

"Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago," Trump said. "They do that for danger too, because it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera, so Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing but I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it."

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So 2 years of campaigning, and this is what we come up with?

He was asked two questions, and, as he often, does, gave rambling, non-specific, borderline nonsensical answers.

And as far as I know, the files aren't "classified," so he can't "declassify" them. No doubt some info in the files is protected in other ways - court orders, grand jury, info, etc.

boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

---

Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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Below I've quoted a Fox News article that references Bondi making reference to a "list" in February.

In February Fox News was left with the impression Bondi said she had the list. Now 5 months later Leavitt tries to make a distinction that Bondi didn't mean an actual list.

If you want to grant the benefit of the doubt there and say that Bondi was misunderstood why would she let the headlines announce a client list and let all the podcasts get fired up without quickly coming back out and saying...hold up...I haven't said anything about a list yet. Why let that massive misunderstanding fester and brew for 5 months?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-died-suicide-did-not-have-client-list-doj-memo

On Feb. 21, Attorney General Pamela Bondi told "America Reports" host John Roberts that she was in possession of the "client list."

"It's sitting on my desk right now to review," she said at the time. "That's been a directive by President Trump."

In an exchange with White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt on Monday, Fox News' Peter Doocy asked about the apparent contradiction.

"So, the FBI looks at the circumstance surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein," Doocy said. "According to the report, 'this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.' So what happened to the Epstein client list that the attorney general said she had on her desk?"

"Well I think that if you go back and look at what the attorney general said, in that interview which was on your network, on Fox News " Leavitt said.

"I've got the quote," Doocy said. "John Roberts said, 'DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Espstein's clients. Will that really happen?' And she said, 'It's sitting on my desk right now for review.'"

"Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, of all of the papers in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes," Leavitt said. "That's what the attorney general was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that. But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars."

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I agree with Leavitt. Bondi was referring to the info and/or the files not specifically the list. She didn't know whether there was a list. And lo and behold, there isn't!

boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

---

Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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This was just from June when Vance on Theo Von's podcast said "Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list, that is an important thing."

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If there was a list, I'm sure he'd release it.

Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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What Biden didn't do was pal around with the guy while he raped kids..

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You can't bet Hunter Biden would (probably did)

Plus, until the files are really revealed entirely you have no idea if Biden did not go to Epstein's island. I mean Clinton and a lot others did.

Biden was a known horn dog in DC during his time and is of course a zero morals person.

(Ask in grandchild in Arkansas who he refuses to see if you have questions about his character )

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You're trying to make this harder than it is. In hypothetical world, you and I might be on the list. In the real world, Trump hung out with this guy for 10 years.

There's no way you hang around with me for 10 years and notice that I'm dating "young" girls. Shiiiit, there's no way you hang around me and watch me cheat on my wife.

In grad school, I met a dude (good looking) who cheated on his wife as easily as you and I breath air. I didn't hang out with this dude for 10 years because I didn't want any part of that. And as you know, I'm an immortal, baby eater.

I'm just calling balls and strikes.

sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

---

Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

---

Please show me the quotes saying there is an actual list and they've seen it.

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This was just from June when Vance on Theo Von's podcast said "Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list, that is an important thing."

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If there was a list, I'm sure he'd release it.

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So what do you make of the VP just a month ago referencing releasing the list. Have they kept the truth from the VP since February?

BREAKING: Representative Ro Khanna says he and Rep Massie now have the House votes to force a vote on the Epstein files being released.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) July 17, 2025

sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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There is most certainly data / files on who were Epstein's clients. So it does not matter if there is a single comprehensive list.

These rich criminals need to be prosecuted to the same standard as anyone else.

And it shouldn't matter to anyone if the perps are Democrats or Republicans.

Book em.

Khanna: We got Boebert, we got Marjorie Taylor Greene. We have up to 7 Republicans now.

Psaki: And that’s enough isn’t it?

Khanna: That’s enough pic.twitter.com/6ZNY6doiLt

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 17, 2025

SHANE GILLIS: “There was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but I guess it got deleted… Probably deleted itself, right? — Probably never existed, actually… Let’s move on as a country and ignore that.” #Espys 👀 pic.twitter.com/DBqXIRpBmA

— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) July 17, 2025

5 theories swirling over Trump's frustration with the Epstein Files "obsession." pic.twitter.com/tGwIM8S3LY

— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) July 16, 2025

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5 theories swirling over Trump's frustration with the Epstein Files "obsession." pic.twitter.com/tGwIM8S3LY

— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) July 16, 2025

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Not helpful when you lust for your daughter...

The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

sombear said:

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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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And also Epstein's lawyer in March.

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I just watched the entire video, and he said nothing inconsistent with his recent statements. In fact, he minimized the files even more, saying he only knew of one name in the file that was an accused. The others were accusers.

There is nothing there. Folks should move on to the next conspiracy.

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So why the parade of binders and Bomdi saying they would not release anything more?

Jack Bauer said:

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The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

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The MAGA rally, now that the talking points have been set... Epstein never happened, it was a rouse, a ***alli

KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

FLBear5630 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

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The MAGA rally, now that the talking points have been set... Epstein never happened, it was a rouse, a ***alli

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nope. There is no "list." There is only a large file of stuff that's been investigated and deemed, to date, as non-prosecutable.

Here's a template for you to contemplate:

1) if Dershowitz is correct....if what he has seen is representative of the totality of the file....then there is not much more to see other than what we already know.

2) If reports of handing the Epstein file off to a special prosecutor are true, then the substance of what is in the file will be released in a final report (as is often done by a Special Prosecutor).

3) And if that final report says what Dershowitz says......

Then Democrats will have yet again grabbed a turd from the punchbowl, waived it in the air victoriously, and called it candy.

whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

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Don't know.

However the American people vehemently object to the implications of the Epstein 'suicide' and blackmail operation.

They instinctively feel that rich and powerful pedos are getting a pass from their political puppets.

Trump has made several worthy, yet unprecedented decisions since his inauguration last January.

He better make one here or the Republicans are guaranteed to lose the 2026 midterms.

KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

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Don't know.
Because it hasn't happened. Would be an extraordinary thing to do. Bondi is acting responsibly not to politicize the prosecutorial process.

However the American people vehemently object to the implication this blackmail operation.

They instinctively feel that the rich and powerful pedos are getting a pass from their political puppets.

Trump has made several worthy, yet unprecedented steps since his inauguration last January.

He better make one here or the Republicans are guaranteed to lose the 2026 midterms.

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said another way, the Epstein File has become a vessel for public disaffection with social contract.

Politically, the thing for Trump to do is to dump it all out on the table & let the chips fall where they may. But if he does that on Epstein, he will have to do it on every allegation the Democrats make going forward. That's why we're getting hints that a special prosecutor will be appointed. It's an elegant way to de-escalate.

Democrats are in a historically weak position for the mid-terms. GOP currently on track to gain seats. Democrats grabbing onto Epstein is a sign that they are desperate. That's why you see Trump messaging the way he is. He's going to hang it around their necks.

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KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

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Don't know.
Because it hasn't happened. Would be an extraordinary thing to do. Bondi is acting responsibly not to politicize the prosecutorial process.

However the American people vehemently object to the implication this blackmail operation.

They instinctively feel that the rich and powerful pedos are getting a pass from their political puppets.

Trump has made several worthy, yet unprecedented steps since his inauguration last January.

He better make one here or the Republicans are guaranteed to lose the 2026 midterms.

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said another way, the Epstein File has become a vessel for public disaffection with social contract.

Politically, the thing for Trump to do is to dump it all out on the table & let the chips fall where they may. But if he does that on Epstein, he will have to do it on every allegation the Democrats make going forward. That's why we're getting hints that a special prosecutor will be appointed. It's an elegant way to de-escalate.

Democrats are in a historically weak position for the mid-terms. GOP currently on track to gain seats. Democrats grabbing onto Epstein is a sign that they are desperate. That's why you see Trump messaging the way he is. He's going to hang it around their necks.

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Trump repeatedly promised to make public the Epstein files.

Bondi promised to make public the Epstein files.

The FBI director and deputy director clearly wish to make public the Epstein files.

Trump better follow through or no amount of 'spin' is going to save him.

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sombear said:

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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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Does "y'all" mean Trump and his cabinet over the last several months?

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And also Epstein's lawyer in March.

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I just watched the entire video, and he said nothing inconsistent with his recent statements. In fact, he minimized the files even more, saying he only knew of one name in the file that was an accused. The others were accusers.

There is nothing there. Folks should move on to the next conspiracy.

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So why the parade of binders and Bomdi saying they would not release anything more?

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My theory is they truly thought the files were full of gold b/c they were reading all the X warriors "expert" commentary on it.

But one of the few people directly involved all along - Dershowitz - says it's all BS. I'm inclined to believe him.

And to me, it makes the most sense. With the hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved in these cases, there is no way it would have been kept a secret.

As for why they can't disclose the contents of the file, it's pretty simple. Again, as confirmed by Dershowitz and others, much of the info cannot be discloses. It is subject to court orders, privilege, grand jury evidence, etc.

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

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Don't know.
Because it hasn't happened. Would be an extraordinary thing to do. Bondi is acting responsibly not to politicize the prosecutorial process.

However the American people vehemently object to the implication this blackmail operation.

They instinctively feel that the rich and powerful pedos are getting a pass from their political puppets.

Trump has made several worthy, yet unprecedented steps since his inauguration last January.

He better make one here or the Republicans are guaranteed to lose the 2026 midterms.

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said another way, the Epstein File has become a vessel for public disaffection with social contract.

Politically, the thing for Trump to do is to dump it all out on the table & let the chips fall where they may. But if he does that on Epstein, he will have to do it on every allegation the Democrats make going forward. That's why we're getting hints that a special prosecutor will be appointed. It's an elegant way to de-escalate.

Democrats are in a historically weak position for the mid-terms. GOP currently on track to gain seats. Democrats grabbing onto Epstein is a sign that they are desperate. That's why you see Trump messaging the way he is. He's going to hang it around their necks.

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Trump repeatedly promised to make public the Epstein files.

Bondi promised to make public the Epstein files.

The FBI director and deputy director clearly wish to make public the Epstein files.

Trump better follow through or no amount of 'spin' is going to save him.

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How do you get around court orders, privilege, and grand jury evidence?

FLBear5630 said:

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sombear said:

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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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boognish_bear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.
...t was an accused. The others were accusers.

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There is nothing there. Folks should move on to the next conspiracy.

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So why the parade of binders and Bomdi saying they would not release anything more?

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dersh misses his rough rutabaga treatment as administered by calloused kneading hands of a babushka........

- el KKM

D!

{ sipping whatacoffee }

{ eatong whataeggsausagebiscuit }

Go Bears!!

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How do you get around court orders, privilege, and grand jury evidence?

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Maybe Bondi should have thought of that before her publicity stunt with the binders. And she has never actually said she can't release it by the way. Just that she won't. ******-awitz said he couldn't talk about it (while talking about it).

Maybe Bongino also should have thought of that before pedaling Epstein conspiracies on his podcast.

MAGA has floated release of the Epstein files for years and campaigned it. It is hilarious that it is now a Dem hoax.

Now that they can release the files, they refuse to deliver. Make of that what you will. Most people see it as a cover up.

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sombear said:

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How do you get around court orders, privilege, and grand jury evidence?

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Maybe Bondi should have thought of that before her publicity stunt with the binders. And she has never actually said she can't release it by the way. Just that she won't. ******-awitz said he couldn't talk about it (while talking about it).

Maybe Bongino also should have thought of that before pedaling Epstein conspiracies on his podcast.

MAGA has floated release of the Epstein files for years and campaigned it. It is hilarious that it is now a Dem hoax.

Now that they can release the files, they refuse to deliver. Make of that what you will. Most people see it as a cover up.

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Fat Boy needs to fire the Poledancing AG

She's definitely one I'd pay her to put her clothes back on

KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Why do we care?

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You don't care about adults sexually assaulting underage girls? You have a daughter. You should know better.

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You're conflating two different things. Epstein was a despicable person and people who continued to hand out with (him, Cosby, Diddy) I question their character.

But, why is the "Epstein" list so important?

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Some people think that exploitation of underage girls is a crime and should be punished. Others see it as perfectly okay. I am a little surprised by the side you have chosen.

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You're assuming it exists. I don't know. Feels like it could or could be pizza gate.

That doesn't excuse sexual abuse of children. I'm just shocked that Epstein is where Trump supporters have drawn the line. (Not the many other things, some with verifiable facts)

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Again, you seem content that Biden did nothing for years.

Glad Trump voters are pissed off that this administration is clearly continuing the years of stonewalling.

Blue bloods should be held to the same standards as working stiffs.

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"did nothing"

how often has any AG, state or federal, dumped the entire file on a decade-long investigation out for public perusal?.....just to satisfy public outcry over speculation about what's in the file.

Have we ever seen that happen?

---

Don't know.
Because it hasn't happened. Would be an extraordinary thing to do. Bondi is acting responsibly not to politicize the prosecutorial process.

However the American people vehemently object to the implication this blackmail operation.

They instinctively feel that the rich and powerful pedos are getting a pass from their political puppets.

Trump has made several worthy, yet unprecedented steps since his inauguration last January.

He better make one here or the Republicans are guaranteed to lose the 2026 midterms.

---

said another way, the Epstein File has become a vessel for public disaffection with social contract.

Politically, the thing for Trump to do is to dump it all out on the table & let the chips fall where they may. But if he does that on Epstein, he will have to do it on every allegation the Democrats make going forward. That's why we're getting hints that a special prosecutor will be appointed. It's an elegant way to de-escalate.

Democrats are in a historically weak position for the mid-terms. GOP currently on track to gain seats. Democrats grabbing onto Epstein is a sign that they are desperate. That's why you see Trump messaging the way he is. He's going to hang it around their necks.

---

Trump repeatedly promised to make public the Epstein files.

Bondi promised to make public the Epstein files.

The FBI director and deputy director clearly wish to make public the Epstein files.

Trump better follow through or no amount of 'spin' is going to save him.

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Don't get fooled by the media narrative that Trump is going to lose his coalition over the Epstein issue.

🚨BREAKING: Even CNN is FLABERGASTED after new polling shows that Trump's approval rating has ROSE, even after the online Epstein fallout.

"I think this one surprised me a bit... You might think his approval ratings were going down with Republicans. If anything, they're going… pic.twitter.com/DZvkQ1oL8a

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) July 17, 2025

GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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sombear said:

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How do you get around court orders, privilege, and grand jury evidence?

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Maybe Bondi should have thought of that before her publicity stunt with the binders. And she has never actually said she can't release it by the way. Just that she won't. ******-awitz said he couldn't talk about it (while talking about it).

Maybe Bongino also should have thought of that before pedaling Epstein conspiracies on his podcast.

MAGA has floated release of the Epstein files for years and campaigned it. It is hilarious that it is now a Dem hoax.

Now that they can release the files, they refuse to deliver. Make of that what you will. Most people see it as a cover up.

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I have never said it was a Dem hoax. I also don't believe it's a Repub hoax. I think it's conspiracy theory that got out of control, just like many others.

And I totally agree many people got way out over their skis on this.

The only argument that I'm making is that there very likely is nothing in that file. No actual list. No virtual list - i.e., credible docs with specific names.

I'm speculating on everything else, such as, my opinion that everyone probably thought there was all kinds of dirt in there. That includes Dem and Repubs.

BTW, Richard Hanania and Michael Tracey - both of whom I disagree with on many issues - have some solid commentary over the last few days. There is fairly strong evidence that there was no Epstein Island where men raped kids. Worth a read.

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Jack Bauer said:

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The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

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The MAGA rally, now that the talking points have been set... Epstein never happened, it was a rouse, a ***alli

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Russian collusion actually happened.

Hunter Biden's laptop never existed

The FBI raided MarALago to get a bunch of Melania's panties

KaiBear said:

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sombear said:

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KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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So which is it... something we should ignore and move on... or something to enlist a special prosecutor to investigate?

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Trump is stalling.

Years have gone by under Biden.

Months have gone by under Trump.

Everyone in power , past and present already knows the realities of the situation.

Publish the client list NOW.

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Epstein's lawyer said there has never been a client list yet yall persist

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There is most certainly data / files on who were Epstein's clients. So it does not matter if there is a single comprehensive list.

These rich criminals need to be prosecuted to the same standard as anyone else.

And it shouldn't matter to anyone if the perps are Democrats or Republicans.

Book em.

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This was exactly my point a little earlier in the thread. No criminal that is any good at their illegal activity has a "client list" like a little book or spreadsheet of their clients they keep.

But they do keep records with fake information that is code for something else.

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FLBear5630 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

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The MAGA rally, now that the talking points have been set... Epstein never happened, it was a rouse, a ***alli

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nope. There is no "list." There is only a large file of stuff that's been investigated and deemed, to date, as non-prosecutable.

Here's a template for you to contemplate:

1) if Dershowitz is correct....if what he has seen is representative of the totality of the file....then there is not much more to see other than what we already know.

2) If reports of handing the Epstein file off to a special prosecutor are true, then the substance of what is in the file will be released in a final report (as is often done by a Special Prosecutor).

3) And if that final report says what Dershowitz says......

Then Democrats will have yet again grabbed a turd from the punchbowl, waived it in the air victoriously, and called it candy.

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I am for the Special Prosecutor. Get it in the open and let's see what there. It won't be the Dems, the GOP and MAGA did their share of crying for it the last few years.

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FLBear5630 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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The marching orders are out...move along

I swear half of the folks commenting here are plum stupid. Many things are at work simultaneously. We may never know who the clients are. There’s nothing we can do about that right now. We can do something about the fentanyl. We can do something about taxes. Etc.

— ℂ𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕚 ℝ𝕒𝕨𝕜 ℙ𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕤𝕤 🇺🇸♥️🤍💙🇺🇸 (@rawk_princess) July 16, 2025

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The MAGA rally, now that the talking points have been set... Epstein never happened, it was a rouse, a ***alli

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Russian collusion actually happened.

Hunter Biden's laptop never existed

The FBI raided MarALago to get a bunch of Melania's panties

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Yeah, they put Epstein's assistant away for life and killed Epstein because there is nothing to see. Prince Andrew really wasn't there and is back on the Royal trail. It is a Le Clarre' novel.