My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
FLBear5630 said:
My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:
My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
While enriching himself and his family wildly...
FLBear5630 said:
Oh Ok. Just like other Presidents.
No, you are absolutely incorrect.Assassin said:boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:
My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
While enriching himself and his family wildly...
Already disproven to be fabricated. For example the sons investment came before Trump was in office. They went into detail on it on another thread
FLBear5630 said:
Context.
First, we are literally bombing a theocrat nation. Biblical quotes seems to be a bit poor taste
Second, he didnt go religious before the Pope stuff.
Third, the is famous for not being religious and materialistic.
So, think that and pictures are uncalled for from POTUS at this time.
ATL Bear said:Assassin said:boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:
My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
While enriching himself and his family wildly...
Already disproven to be fabricated. For example the sons investment came before Trump was in office. They went into detail on it on another thread
No, you are absolutely incorrect.
FLBear5630 said:
Because he does it in mocking way. It is a tactic, he is in a pissing match with the Pope, all of a sudden scripture is everywhere and Trump as Jesus pictures. Hegseth quoted Pulp Fiction. Question for you.
You read sincerity? Based on his history?
I read it as a shot against the Pope for not agreeing and calling him out.
FLBear5630 said:
Because he does it in mocking way. It is a tactic, he is in a pissing match with the Pope, all of a sudden scripture is everywhere and Trump as Jesus pictures. Hegseth quoted Pulp Fiction. Question for you.
You read sincerity? Based on his history?
I read it as a shot against the Pope for not agreeing and calling him out.
Assassin said:boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:
My issue is in my opinion we didnt get that guy, the guy that came down the escalator. We got vendetta Donald, that believes he was wronged and is willing to burn the whole world down and will do it
While enriching himself and his family wildly...
Already disproven to be fabricated. For example the sons investment came before Trump was in office. They went into detail on it on another thread
cowboycwr said:FLBear5630 said:
Because he does it in mocking way. It is a tactic, he is in a pissing match with the Pope, all of a sudden scripture is everywhere and Trump as Jesus pictures. Hegseth quoted Pulp Fiction. Question for you.
You read sincerity? Based on his history?
I read it as a shot against the Pope for not agreeing and calling him out.
Got it. Then when any other politician does it we can expect you to start threads on here denouncing it?
FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
Me? He is the one quoting the Bible from the White House and painting pictures of him as Christ. Come in, Trump is as atheist as they come. It is a blatant pander, you are too smart not to see it. It is right out of the Christian Nationalist playbook.
Is he CN? No, he will be Mormon next week if it gets him what he wants. He will say whatever we want to hear.
"Christian Nationalism" is the new "Q-Anon\," a Democrat apparition to demonize conservatives, in this case the religious right.
BS, it has been around since the 70's in the US, it started as the Christian Right, Moral Majority, Trump is using it to get his war through. He is heavenly Christian this month. When he was dealing with Musk, he was a "Cultural Christian" that viewed technology as the savior. In Playboy 1990, he was an atheist. In 2000's, while still a Democrat he was non-denominational, pro-choice. Next week?
As for if something is new, MAGA? Old as time, a venerable institution of political thought...
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FLBear5630 said:
There is when there is supposed to be a separation between Church and State. This isn't a President going to Church because of his personal believes. This is the creation of a political Party partially based on religion. That is not supposed to happen in the US.
Red Herring.
What a person believes or what religious organization YOU belong to and do wonderful things is great. No issues. I could care less if it is Christian, Moslem, Jewish, Bushido, Buddist, or any. Have at it, as long as you are within the law. It should NOT be coming from the Government or its representatives as an official Party or action.
Another Red Herring.
This is a basic.
No, it's classic
Assassin said:
ABC, CBS and NBC. What do they have in common today? Not a word about George Soros' SPLC funding white supremacy groups...
FLBear5630 said:Assassin said:
ABC, CBS and NBC. What do they have in common today? Not a word about George Soros' SPLC funding white supremacy groups...
Was Bessent involved? You should be good with Soros, Bessent made his money working for him. Soros is the Godfather of Bessents financial strategy.
FLBear5630 said:
It is not a Red Herring. Let's change it to quoting from the Quran and a picture of Muhammed. You would be screaming Shia Law and the Establishment Clause. You are very good at seeing what you want.
Oh (raspberry)..... I already know muslims vote their (islamic) values in elections and I'm not talking about limiting their right to reach their political decisions by whatever value system they deem appropriate.. I'm talking stop the damned illegal immigration (because once they're a citizen here, they have constitutional rights....)
The funny thing, you know it is total BS. Trump is as religious as my Chesapeake Bay Retriever. He is using it to get his way. I know you see it, but for some reason decide to look the other way for Trump. Something you never did for Obama or Biden. So, either you are making money off Trump being in office or you are a true believer. I don't believe the true believer part, too smart and morally flexible. There is no way you believe half of what you defend.
If you don't think Trump is a true believer, then how can he be a Christian Nationalist?
whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
Me? He is the one quoting the Bible from the White House and painting pictures of him as Christ. Come in, Trump is as atheist as they come. It is a blatant pander, you are too smart not to see it. It is right out of the Christian Nationalist playbook.
Is he CN? No, he will be Mormon next week if it gets him what he wants. He will say whatever we want to hear.
"Christian Nationalism" is the new "Q-Anon\," a Democrat apparition to demonize conservatives, in this case the religious right.
BS, it has been around since the 70's in the US, it started as the Christian Right, Moral Majority, Trump is using it to get his war through. He is heavenly Christian this month. When he was dealing with Musk, he was a "Cultural Christian" that viewed technology as the savior. In Playboy 1990, he was an atheist. In 2000's, while still a Democrat he was non-denominational, pro-choice. Next week?
As for if something is new, MAGA? Old as time, a venerable institution of political thought...
Correct. You just admitted it. The left always attacks religion, because religion stands in the way of their agenda.
There is nothing sinister about conservative people of faith. Unless you are a leftist.
Christianity isn't what's wrong with America. It's what's right with America.
whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
It is not a Red Herring. Let's change it to quoting from the Quran and a picture of Muhammed. You would be screaming Shia Law and the Establishment Clause. You are very good at seeing what you want.
Oh (raspberry)..... I already know muslims vote their (islamic) values in elections and I'm not talking about limiting their right to reach their political decisions by whatever value system they deem appropriate.. I'm talking stop the damned illegal immigration (because once they're a citizen here, they have constitutional rights....)
The funny thing, you know it is total BS. Trump is as religious as my Chesapeake Bay Retriever. He is using it to get his way. I know you see it, but for some reason decide to look the other way for Trump. Something you never did for Obama or Biden. So, either you are making money off Trump being in office or you are a true believer. I don't believe the true believer part, too smart and morally flexible. There is no way you believe half of what you defend.
If you don't think Trump is a true believer, then how can he be a Christian Nationalist?
You're making increasingly disjointed rants. NeverTrumpism does that to folks.
FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
It is not a Red Herring. Let's change it to quoting from the Quran and a picture of Muhammed. You would be screaming Shia Law and the Establishment Clause. You are very good at seeing what you want.
Oh (raspberry)..... I already know muslims vote their (islamic) values in elections and I'm not talking about limiting their right to reach their political decisions by whatever value system they deem appropriate.. I'm talking stop the damned illegal immigration (because once they're a citizen here, they have constitutional rights....)
The funny thing, you know it is total BS. Trump is as religious as my Chesapeake Bay Retriever. He is using it to get his way. I know you see it, but for some reason decide to look the other way for Trump. Something you never did for Obama or Biden. So, either you are making money off Trump being in office or you are a true believer. I don't believe the true believer part, too smart and morally flexible. There is no way you believe half of what you defend.
If you don't think Trump is a true believer, then how can he be a Christian Nationalist?
You're making increasingly disjointed rants. NeverTrumpism does that to folks.
Geez, you are a piece of work. Ask the English about Bessent and Soros. If this was Biden using a Soros hatchet man???? You are tied to Trump some how, so your credibility is zero on Trump you are normalizing behavior and decisions you know are wrong. His not vetted son in law negotiating for the US??? Billions of dollars, no financial disclosures? If Clunton did this!!!
I have not figured out the why yet. What are you getting or making to defend Trump so much? He has f-ed up everything he touched, yet cheerleading...
FLBear5630 said:
Funny how you guys will overlook what you like. If Obama or Biden worked with someone tied to Soros, oh **** you would go nuts.
FLBear5630 said:
Funny how you guys will overlook what you like. If Obama or Biden worked with someone tied to Soros, oh **** you would go nuts.
whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
Funny how you guys will overlook what you like. If Obama or Biden worked with someone tied to Soros, oh **** you would go nuts.
Yes, we do go nuts because of the supremely bad ideas Soros pushes, not because Soros is a jew or any such other identitarian nonsense.
By conjuring up the "Christian Nationalist" strawman, the left avoids debate on the substance of it (bad) ideas.
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Assassin said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
Funny how you guys will overlook what you like. If Obama or Biden worked with someone tied to Soros, oh **** you would go nuts.
Yes, we do go nuts because of the supremely bad ideas Soros pushes, not because Soros is a jew or any such other identitarian nonsense.
By conjuring up the "Christian Nationalist" strawman, the left avoids debate on the substance of it (bad) ideas.
Add to it the "Nazi Fact of the Day". George Soros is the ONLY PERSON in American politics that actually worked for the Nazis...
FLBear5630 said:Assassin said:whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
Funny how you guys will overlook what you like. If Obama or Biden worked with someone tied to Soros, oh **** you would go nuts.
Yes, we do go nuts because of the supremely bad ideas Soros pushes, not because Soros is a jew or any such other identitarian nonsense.
By conjuring up the "Christian Nationalist" strawman, the left avoids debate on the substance of it (bad) ideas.
Add to it the "Nazi Fact of the Day". George Soros is the ONLY PERSON in American politics that actually worked for the Nazis...
I am not good with Soros. You are good with his henchman that helped him tank the British Pound.
Hmmm... What position should we put him in this Administration??? I know, Sec of Treasury! Typical MAGA thinking, you couldn't write this stuff...