Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:BREAKING: President Trump is seeking $10 billion in damages in a lawsuit over the Wall Street Journal’s publication of letter to Jeffrey Epstein, per Reuters.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 18, 2025
If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B.
What would he countersue for? Trump didnt post lies about him.
JUST IN: 🇺🇸 US Congressman Thomas Massie pushes for House vote to release full Epstein files after DOJ looks to release only grand jury testimony.
— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) July 19, 2025
He has received support from both Democrats and Republicans. pic.twitter.com/Es8XYZjwc9
boognish_bear said:JUST IN: 🇺🇸 US Congressman Thomas Massie pushes for House vote to release full Epstein files after DOJ looks to release only grand jury testimony.
— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) July 19, 2025
He has received support from both Democrats and Republicans. pic.twitter.com/Es8XYZjwc9
KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Biden had years to let the chips fall where they may.
And did nothing.
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
79% of Americans support releasing the Epstein files, but only 16 members of Congress have sponsored the legislation to do so.
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) July 20, 2025
After 7 legislative days, I’ll be able to collect signatures to force a vote on my bill to release all the files. Cosponsors: https://t.co/Y9hj5s4PiZ pic.twitter.com/p74pD96x26
Assassin said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Why do you think that Biden didnt expose it, if as you say, folks participated in activities with minors? If there was never a list, why do you care?
KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Biden had years to let the chips fall where they may.
And did nothing.
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Biden had years to let the chips fall where they may.
And did nothing.
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
You're right. Biden should have.
It was a keystone of the Trump campaign and a key MAGA conspiracy theory. Trump said he would, but now he's giving inconsistent and evasive reasons not to.
Why doesn't it bother you that he won't release everything and let the chips fall?
KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Biden had years to let the chips fall where they may.
And did nothing.
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
You're right. Biden should have.
It was a keystone of the Trump campaign and a key MAGA conspiracy theory. Trump said he would, but now he's giving inconsistent and evasive reasons not to.
Why doesn't it bother you that he won't release everything and let the chips fall?
Obviously you post crap without bothering to read the thread involved. ( 'cinque' was rarely so sloppy )
As I have commented numerous times how Trump needs to follow through with his promises, made before and after the 2024 election….to publish the Epstein files.
Quote:
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
You forgot the part about how the much-vaunted curiosity of journalists mysteriously vanishes the moment a story threatens to make their people look bad. https://t.co/erXq5WSJb9 pic.twitter.com/Swbuya0fLj
— The Chivalry Guild (@ChivalryGuild) July 20, 2025
TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:KaiBear said:TexasScientist said:1713 Baylor said:
He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.
None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.
He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).
If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?
They had years to do so, yet did nothing .
Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?
No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.
Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.
I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.
Biden had years to let the chips fall where they may.
And did nothing.
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
You're right. Biden should have.
It was a keystone of the Trump campaign and a key MAGA conspiracy theory. Trump said he would, but now he's giving inconsistent and evasive reasons not to.
Why doesn't it bother you that he won't release everything and let the chips fall?
Obviously you post crap without bothering to read the thread involved. ( 'cinque' was rarely so sloppy )
As I have commented numerous times how Trump needs to follow through with his promises, made before and after the 2024 election….to publish the Epstein files.Quote:
However that doesn't seem to impact you as much.
Don't draw erroneous conclusions.
whiterock said:
kinda funny to watch Trump toss the hot potato into the lap of the judiciary. If they don't release the grand jury testimony, they'll become a part of the conspiracy.
FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:
kinda funny to watch Trump toss the hot potato into the lap of the judiciary. If they don't release the grand jury testimony, they'll become a part of the conspiracy.
They are NOT releasing the Grand Jury testimonies... You know as well as I do that once they do that, they will NEVER get another Grand Jury member to say anything. It is a delaying tactic.
Besides, I thought that Grand Jury testimony meant nothing, "ham sandwich". Remember when Grand Juries were bringing charges versus Donald. Then they were not reliable at all, downright not credible...
Everyday a different read on the same terms to protect. At least you don't have to keep a straight face in this medium...
NEW: Donald Trump’s lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal has been assigned to US District Judge Darrin P. Gayles, an Obama appointee pic.twitter.com/f8C5js7QFD
— Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) July 21, 2025
whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:whiterock said:
kinda funny to watch Trump toss the hot potato into the lap of the judiciary. If they don't release the grand jury testimony, they'll become a part of the conspiracy.
They are NOT releasing the Grand Jury testimonies... You know as well as I do that once they do that, they will NEVER get another Grand Jury member to say anything. It is a delaying tactic.
Besides, I thought that Grand Jury testimony meant nothing, "ham sandwich". Remember when Grand Juries were bringing charges versus Donald. Then they were not reliable at all, downright not credible...
Everyday a different read on the same terms to protect. At least you don't have to keep a straight face in this medium...
LOL. Let me try it one more time.
I agree that the courts are not likely to release everything currently under seal. And that's exactly why Trump's directive for the DOJ to ask the court to release the Grand Jury testimony is such good politics - it's going to position the courts as being the ones defending Epstein....it's going to position the courts as being the ones who dropped the rich & powerful into the grease, etc....
whiterock said:
kinda funny to watch Trump toss the hot potato into the lap of the judiciary. If they don't release the grand jury testimony, they'll become a part of the conspiracy.
Bessent: "Newspapers like the Wall Street Journal are not used to a high-functioning executive president. They are used to perhaps President Obama, who was not as economically sophisticated as President Trump." pic.twitter.com/RwzEIeHVev
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 21, 2025
boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that the list no longer exists and nothing is left to find.
Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
No need to debate means that you have proof one way or another. Please share
Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
No need to debate means that you have proof one way or another. Please share
You're arguing for proof that Trump did it. I'm arguing there's proof that Trump nothing.
Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
No need to debate means that you have proof one way or another. Please share
You're arguing for proof that Trump did it. I'm arguing there's proof that Trump nothing.
Yet you presented "no need to debate", not me. Prove it. There is no need to debate
Reporter: Why doesn’t the President just order the FBI to release the full Epstein files?
— Acyn (@Acyn) July 21, 2025
Leavitt: The President has said if the DOJ/FBI want to move forward with releasing any credible evidence, they should do so. As to why they have not—you should ask the FBI pic.twitter.com/XIK6Bh1Qvp
ScottS said:
Snopes says Trump pic is fake...
Fact Check: Photo showing Trump and Epstein with a minor girl isn't what it seems
Jack Bauer said:ScottS said:
Snopes says Trump pic is fake...
Fact Check: Photo showing Trump and Epstein with a minor girl isn't what it seems
Yep, that's about the fakest pic possible.
Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
No need to debate means that you have proof one way or another. Please share
You're arguing for proof that Trump did it. I'm arguing there's proof that Trump nothing.
Yet you presented "no need to debate", not me. Prove it. There is no need to debate
So, in your world, Trump is smart enough to know that the world is ripping us off and implement tariffs of everyone.
But doesn't have instinct to know that a guy he pals around with for 15 years, who calls him him is "best friend," who introduced him to his wife, while married, is sleeping with underage girls?
This is t going away because the rest of us have to suspend belief.
I thought you didn't believe SnopesScottS said:
Snopes says Trump pic is fake...
Fact Check: Photo showing Trump and Epstein with a minor girl isn't what it seems
Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:Assassin said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:
As time goes by I feel more and more sure all of this is going nowhere and we will never get any answers.
Unless the real answer is what we already have....that there is no list and nothing is there.
You have the answer. There's no scenario where you hang out with me for 15 years and see me with underage girls.
No need to debate whether Trump did or didn't date kids.
No need to debate means that you have proof one way or another. Please share
You're arguing for proof that Trump did it. I'm arguing there's proof that Trump nothing.
Yet you presented "no need to debate", not me. Prove it. There is no need to debate
So, in your world, Trump is smart enough to know that the world is ripping us off and implement tariffs of everyone.
But doesn't have instinct to know that a guy he pals around with for 15 years, who calls him him is "best friend," who introduced him to his wife, while married, is sleeping with underage girls?
This is t going away because the rest of us have to suspend belief.
