Pat Green and his wife, Kori, confirmed the loss of Pat's little brother John, his wife, Julia, and two of their children: https://t.co/T4Ne4nEFX9 pic.twitter.com/dksvVYOJ11

— KCENNews (@6NewsCTX) July 8, 2025

Very sad news for Pat's family.

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Pat Green and his wife, Kori, confirmed the loss of Pat's little brother John, his wife, Julia, and two of their children: https://t.co/T4Ne4nEFX9 pic.twitter.com/dksvVYOJ11

— KCENNews (@6NewsCTX) July 8, 2025

Very sad news for Pat's family.

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This was the family where the grandmother had to go pick up the family's daughter from Camp Longhorn.

muddybrazos said:

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Pat Green and his wife, Kori, confirmed the loss of Pat's little brother John, his wife, Julia, and two of their children: https://t.co/T4Ne4nEFX9 pic.twitter.com/dksvVYOJ11

— KCENNews (@6NewsCTX) July 8, 2025

Very sad news for Pat's family.

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oh no

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1) Holy cow that was a lot of water. Absolutely amazing and powerful and tragic.

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Rainmaker, a cloud seeding company, did conduct a mission on July 2, it was over Karnes County, which is southeast of the main flood zone in Texas. They flew a 20-minute mission. The flooding was primarily concentrated in the Texas Hill Country, particularly Kerr County, where a significant amount of rain fell in a short period.

Wonder if this added to the massive amount of rain that fell so quickly?

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It's my understanding that cloud seeding does not add to the moisture in the atmosphere, it only helps the droplets combine into a raindrop so they'll be heavy enough to fall.

As previously stated, forecasters said areas could get 10 plus inches of rain, they just didn't pinpoint what county.
With or without cloud seeding, the moisture was already there and the forecast was already anticipating extreme rainfall and flash flooding

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Assassin said:

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nein51 said:

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1) Holy cow that was a lot of water. Absolutely amazing and powerful and tragic.

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Rainmaker, a cloud seeding company, did conduct a mission on July 2, it was over Karnes County, which is southeast of the main flood zone in Texas. They flew a 20-minute mission. The flooding was primarily concentrated in the Texas Hill Country, particularly Kerr County, where a significant amount of rain fell in a short period.

Wonder if this added to the massive amount of rain that fell so quickly?

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It's my understanding that cloud seeding does not add to the moisture in the atmosphere, it only helps the droplets combine into a raindrop so they'll be heavy enough to fall.

As previously stated, forecasters said areas could get 10 plus inches of rain, they just didn't pinpoint what county.
With or without cloud seeding, the moisture was already there and the forecast was already anticipating extreme rainfall and flash flooding

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It's gonna be interesting to see the post-event breaking down to see if it did add. Very strange that they did it the day before... and the clouds don't care what county they are in

Trump will be coming to Texas

KIDS MAKING A DIFFERENCE!
⁰Fort Worth twins with ties to Camp Mystic raised over $5,000 for camp recovery — all through a lemonade stand.

Courtesy of Lisa Camp pic.twitter.com/Ld2khHGfgG

— The Will Cain Show (@WillCainShow_) July 8, 2025

Assassin said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Assassin said:

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nein51 said:

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1) Holy cow that was a lot of water. Absolutely amazing and powerful and tragic.

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Rainmaker, a cloud seeding company, did conduct a mission on July 2, it was over Karnes County, which is southeast of the main flood zone in Texas. They flew a 20-minute mission. The flooding was primarily concentrated in the Texas Hill Country, particularly Kerr County, where a significant amount of rain fell in a short period.

Wonder if this added to the massive amount of rain that fell so quickly?

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It's my understanding that cloud seeding does not add to the moisture in the atmosphere, it only helps the droplets combine into a raindrop so they'll be heavy enough to fall.

As previously stated, forecasters said areas could get 10 plus inches of rain, they just didn't pinpoint what county.
With or without cloud seeding, the moisture was already there and the forecast was already anticipating extreme rainfall and flash flooding

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It's gonna be interesting to see the post-event breaking down to see if it did add. Very strange that they did it the day before... and the clouds don't care what county they are in

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From Travis Herzog, meteorologist in Houston
Hi. It's me again. Let's talk about cloud seeding.

We're all hurting over here in Texas after these floods. Children are still among the missing. The death toll is now over 100. We're in various stages of grief and still trying to make sense of what just happened as we grapple with the reality that this flood has permanently altered the trajectory of so many family histories.

So why am I bringing up cloud seeding? Because I've seen the same viral videos and posts you have seen claiming that cloud seeding is responsible for the floods in the Texas Hill Country, and it's inserting confusion and questions into a grieving community that really needs to be focused on other things at this time. Scientific voices in the meteorology community are needed right now to help put these claims to rest, so I will again lend my voice to help answer some of your questions and hopefully clear up some confusion.

What is cloud seeding?

Cloud seeding is a type of weather modification that involves injecting a few grams of a chemical (usually silver iodide) into an existing cloud to "seed" the formation of larger water droplets or ice crystals that will then cause the cloud to precipitate slightly more than it would have if left alone. We've been doing it in America since the 1940s, and the physics behind it is pretty simple.

How does it work?

Clouds are composed of tiny water droplets or ice crystals called hydrometeors (and that my friends, is where the word "METEORology" comes from!) that need even smaller microscopic particles called "cloud condensation nuclei" to form. These are things like specks of dust, salt, and smoke. When they are present in a moist airmass, that moisture can condense around those particles to create water droplets. Most clouds don't rain or snow because the water droplets or ice crystals remain too small for gravity to pull them down to the earth. The silver iodide particles injected into clouds are significantly larger "cloud condensation nuclei" that happen to be really good at creating larger droplets or ice crystals that can fall to the ground.

What is the purpose of cloud seeding operations?

Generally these are designed to help enhance rainfall or snowpack in arid regions of the country that do not have dependable rainfall and are subject to droughts.

Is cloud seeding regulated?

Yes, there are both federal regulations and state regulations. It is not done in secret. You can read about federal regulations here https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports and you can read about Texas regulations here https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/

Were cloud seeding operations conducted on the storms that produced the Texas floods?

No. In fact, Texas regulations prohibit cloud seeding on storms that could produce severe weather, tornadoes, or flash floods. One of the companies singled out on social media for cloud seeding conducted its last operation on Wednesday, July 2nd.

Could the cloud seeding conducted two days before the floods have created or impacted the storms on July 4th?

No. Only an existing cloud can be seeded, and once that cloud has been seeded, it rains itself out. Furthermore, the cloud seeding took place southeast of San Antonio, roughly 150 miles away from Kerr County.

Does cloud seeding create stronger "super storms" or lead to less rainfall elsewhere?

The science and observations say no. According to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation website, "There is no evidence that the seeding contributes to less rainfall anywhere else. What is more, there is no evidence that seeding causes clouds to grow substantially taller and produce unwanted effects (such as damaging winds, hail, and flash floods). To the contrary, the available evidence from over eight years of research in West Texas suggests cloud seeding, when done timely and accurately, contributes to more gentle, widespread, and longer-lasting rains."

The TDLR FAQ section on cloud seeding is an excellent resource, and I highly recommend you read it if you would like explore this topic more: https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/weatherfaq.htm

I also once again recommend watching this exceptional video primer from my weather friend ABC News Chief Meteorologist Ginger Zee: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/video/116008822

Even though cloud seeding was not responsible for the Hill Country floods, I know there are moral and ethical concerns when it comes to modifying the weather (or any natural Earth system), however small those modifications may be, and the topic is worth more public discourse and scrutiny.

At the end of the day, this flood was caused by the remnants of two tropical weather systems that cannot be created nor controlled by mankind, despite claims to the contrary. I mean, look at this rainfall map. That's a year's worth of rain in some communities that fell in 5 days over a geographic area bigger than many states in our country. Does it make sense to you that dropping a few grams of silver iodide into a cloud 150 miles away from the hardest hit communities two days before the flood even occurred could have caused this?

It's been said before that extraordinary claims you encounter can be true, but you should demand extraordinary evidence to back them up.

If you made it this far, congratulations. I hope it helped. Now let's focus on what really matters: Helping the grieving families and communities in their time of need.

Here are some ways you can help: https://abc13.com/17000575/

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Assassin said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Assassin said:

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nein51 said:

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1) Holy cow that was a lot of water. Absolutely amazing and powerful and tragic.

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Rainmaker, a cloud seeding company, did conduct a mission on July 2, it was over Karnes County, which is southeast of the main flood zone in Texas. They flew a 20-minute mission. The flooding was primarily concentrated in the Texas Hill Country, particularly Kerr County, where a significant amount of rain fell in a short period.

Wonder if this added to the massive amount of rain that fell so quickly?

---

It's my understanding that cloud seeding does not add to the moisture in the atmosphere, it only helps the droplets combine into a raindrop so they'll be heavy enough to fall.

As previously stated, forecasters said areas could get 10 plus inches of rain, they just didn't pinpoint what county.
With or without cloud seeding, the moisture was already there and the forecast was already anticipating extreme rainfall and flash flooding

---

It's gonna be interesting to see the post-event breaking down to see if it did add. Very strange that they did it the day before... and the clouds don't care what county they are in

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From Travis Herzog, meteorologist in Houston
Hi. It's me again. Let's talk about cloud seeding.

We're all hurting over here in Texas after these floods. Children are still among the missing. The death toll is now over 100. We're in various stages of grief and still trying to make sense of what just happened as we grapple with the reality that this flood has permanently altered the trajectory of so many family histories.

So why am I bringing up cloud seeding? Because I've seen the same viral videos and posts you have seen claiming that cloud seeding is responsible for the floods in the Texas Hill Country, and it's inserting confusion and questions into a grieving community that really needs to be focused on other things at this time. Scientific voices in the meteorology community are needed right now to help put these claims to rest, so I will again lend my voice to help answer some of your questions and hopefully clear up some confusion.

What is cloud seeding?

Cloud seeding is a type of weather modification that involves injecting a few grams of a chemical (usually silver iodide) into an existing cloud to "seed" the formation of larger water droplets or ice crystals that will then cause the cloud to precipitate slightly more than it would have if left alone. We've been doing it in America since the 1940s, and the physics behind it is pretty simple.

How does it work?

Clouds are composed of tiny water droplets or ice crystals called hydrometeors (and that my friends, is where the word "METEORology" comes from!) that need even smaller microscopic particles called "cloud condensation nuclei" to form. These are things like specks of dust, salt, and smoke. When they are present in a moist airmass, that moisture can condense around those particles to create water droplets. Most clouds don't rain or snow because the water droplets or ice crystals remain too small for gravity to pull them down to the earth. The silver iodide particles injected into clouds are significantly larger "cloud condensation nuclei" that happen to be really good at creating larger droplets or ice crystals that can fall to the ground.

What is the purpose of cloud seeding operations?

Generally these are designed to help enhance rainfall or snowpack in arid regions of the country that do not have dependable rainfall and are subject to droughts.

Is cloud seeding regulated?

Yes, there are both federal regulations and state regulations. It is not done in secret. You can read about federal regulations here https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports and you can read about Texas regulations here https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/

Were cloud seeding operations conducted on the storms that produced the Texas floods?

No. In fact, Texas regulations prohibit cloud seeding on storms that could produce severe weather, tornadoes, or flash floods. One of the companies singled out on social media for cloud seeding conducted its last operation on Wednesday, July 2nd.

Could the cloud seeding conducted two days before the floods have created or impacted the storms on July 4th?

No. Only an existing cloud can be seeded, and once that cloud has been seeded, it rains itself out. Furthermore, the cloud seeding took place southeast of San Antonio, roughly 150 miles away from Kerr County.

Does cloud seeding create stronger "super storms" or lead to less rainfall elsewhere?

The science and observations say no. According to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation website, "There is no evidence that the seeding contributes to less rainfall anywhere else. What is more, there is no evidence that seeding causes clouds to grow substantially taller and produce unwanted effects (such as damaging winds, hail, and flash floods). To the contrary, the available evidence from over eight years of research in West Texas suggests cloud seeding, when done timely and accurately, contributes to more gentle, widespread, and longer-lasting rains."

The TDLR FAQ section on cloud seeding is an excellent resource, and I highly recommend you read it if you would like explore this topic more: https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/weatherfaq.htm

I also once again recommend watching this exceptional video primer from my weather friend ABC News Chief Meteorologist Ginger Zee: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/video/116008822

Even though cloud seeding was not responsible for the Hill Country floods, I know there are moral and ethical concerns when it comes to modifying the weather (or any natural Earth system), however small those modifications may be, and the topic is worth more public discourse and scrutiny.

At the end of the day, this flood was caused by the remnants of two tropical weather systems that cannot be created nor controlled by mankind, despite claims to the contrary. I mean, look at this rainfall map. That's a year's worth of rain in some communities that fell in 5 days over a geographic area bigger than many states in our country. Does it make sense to you that dropping a few grams of silver iodide into a cloud 150 miles away from the hardest hit communities two days before the flood even occurred could have caused this?

It's been said before that extraordinary claims you encounter can be true, but you should demand extraordinary evidence to back them up.

If you made it this far, congratulations. I hope it helped. Now let's focus on what really matters: Helping the grieving families and communities in their time of need.

Here are some ways you can help: https://abc13.com/17000575/

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From what I read on cloud seeding yesterday, today's cloud seeding is so new, that are aren't totally sure what all the ramifications of it. The clouds they seeded disperse but they're still not sure what is going on in the upper atmosphere.

NEW: In his first presser after the deadly floods, the Kerr County Judge said they do not have an emergency alert system.

But we've learned that not only does the county have such a system, but first responders asked that it be triggered very early Friday AM.

Some residents…

— Lauren McGaughy (@lmcgaughy) July 8, 2025

🚨BREAKING: The Rio Ruidoso River east of Ruidoso, New Mexico, surged 20 feet in only 30 minutes, Houses have been swept away. pic.twitter.com/ByeacB1Cc8

— World Source News 24/7 (@Worldsource24) July 8, 2025

The anti-whiteism finally pushed Grok over the edge.

X higher-ups have begun manually deleting Grok’s posts after the AI chatbot went off script and started praising Hitler.

Follow: @AFpost pic.twitter.com/O6n6iYP1lY

— AF Post (@AFpost) July 8, 2025

This is something

Statement from their local in the IAFF pic.twitter.com/z9VXBVoooU

— Risky Chrisky (@RiskyChrisky) July 8, 2025

I'm wondering if the union has another motive

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I'm wondering if the union has another motive

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If the allegation is accurate, I don't think I care what their motive is.

BREAKING:

Flooding starts in Poland.

The worst is yet to come according to the weather forecasts. The next 3 days could be critical pic.twitter.com/bB3KQhGu7R

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) July 9, 2025

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I'm wondering if the union has another motive

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If the allegation is accurate, I don't think I care what their motive is.

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I'm curious, and want to hear the chief's side of it. Travis county had a number of water rescues

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I'm wondering if the union has another motive

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If the allegation is accurate, I don't think I care what their motive is.

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I'm curious, and want to hear the chief's side of it. Travis county had a number of water rescues

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Agree. That's why I said if the allegation is accurate.

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This is something

Statement from their local in the IAFF pic.twitter.com/z9VXBVoooU

— Risky Chrisky (@RiskyChrisky) July 8, 2025

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Damn!

DEI kills, and the Texas tragedy is just the latest example.

Meet Austin Fire Chief Joel Baker, Austin's first black Fire Chief who has been working to hire more black and LGBTQ firefighters, and who is now facing a vote of no confidence by his union for denying the… pic.twitter.com/c34jAVESOh

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 8, 2025

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DEI kills, and the Texas tragedy is just the latest example.

Meet Austin Fire Chief Joel Baker, Austin's first black Fire Chief who has been working to hire more black and LGBTQ firefighters, and who is now facing a vote of no confidence by his union for denying the… pic.twitter.com/c34jAVESOh

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 8, 2025

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wow "DEI likely killed those girls"

There better not be another repeat of this...

Yeah, that headline's legit—from a 2017 BBC story after Hurricane Harvey. Dickinson, TX briefly required a no-boycott-Israel pledge for relief funds due to state anti-BDS laws. ACLU called BS, city dropped it quick. Not current, but wild it happened. Prioritizing geopolitics over…

— Grok (@grok) July 8, 2025

Before and after satellite images if Guadalupe River:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-flooding-satellite-photos-before-after/

BREAKING: Water rescues are ongoing in Chicago, Illinois, due to flooding. ~5" of rain has fallen in the last 90 minutes.

— Max Velocity (@MaxVelocityWX) July 9, 2025

man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

Before the press were brought into the room, @SecretaryTurner led the President, Vice President, and entire Cabinet in a spontaneous and powerful prayer for the people of Texas.

This was a truly beautiful moment. 🙏🏼❤️ pic.twitter.com/sArOqoeku3

— Karoline Leavitt (@PressSec) July 8, 2025

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DEI kills, and the Texas tragedy is just the latest example.

Meet Austin Fire Chief Joel Baker, Austin's first black Fire Chief who has been working to hire more black and LGBTQ firefighters, and who is now facing a vote of no confidence by his union for denying the… pic.twitter.com/c34jAVESOh

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 8, 2025

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wow "DEI likely killed those girls"

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I am no going to place a lot of faith in the purity of a union, but we've seen the real damage Didn't Earn Its reak on the world. We've seen how tokens in the LA fire department responded to those fires.

It would be peak regressive disinformation that after spreading fake news about Trump (again) that ultimately Didn't Earn It play a key role.

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

If you fell for the pathetically obvious groyper troll account "Cindy Steinberg" you're on my shitlist until you send a personal apology letter to this random woman whose life you temporarily ruined https://t.co/ptOX1vv5xF

— David Burge (@iowahawkblog) July 9, 2025

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

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Are you familiar with the concept of AGI?

The goal is for AI to aggregate data and form hypothesis and conclusions.

Billions were not spent and countless hours from the world's brightest minds for the end result to be a copy/paste bot...

The_barBEARian said:

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

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Are you familiar with the concept of AGI?

The goal is for AI to aggregate data and form hypothesis and conclusions.

Billions were not spent and countless hours from the world's brightest minds for the end result to be a copy/paste bot...

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This is a thread about a flood in the Texas hill country. Over 100 people were killed, including many 8-9 year old girls at a summer camp. Many people on this board knew some of these people, or have close friends or relatives who were related to these people. Meaningful discussions can be had surrounding how/why that happened and what can be done to prevent it or make it at least less likely in the future.

Can you refrain from clogging up this thread with your antisemitic garbage? There are plenty of threads specifically about Israel where you can go do that.

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

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Are you familiar with the concept of AGI?

The goal is for AI to aggregate data and form hypothesis and conclusions.

Billions were not spent and countless hours from the world's brightest minds for the end result to be a copy/paste bot...

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This is a thread about a flood in the Texas hill country. Over 100 people were killed, including many 8-9 year old girls at a summer camp. Many people on this board knew some of these people, or have close friends or relatives who were related to these people. Meaningful discussions can be had surrounding how/why that happened and what can be done to prevent it or make it at least less likely in the future.

Can you refrain from clogging up this thread with your antisemitic garbage? There are plenty of threads specifically about Israel where you can go do that.

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I can refrain as long as people are not forced to sign "garbage" anti-BDS pledges that they will not boycott Israel before they can recieve their disaster aid like the last time this happened.

The_barBEARian said:

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

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Are you familiar with the concept of AGI?

The goal is for AI to aggregate data and form hypothesis and conclusions.

Billions were not spent and countless hours from the world's brightest minds for the end result to be a copy/paste bot...

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This is a thread about a flood in the Texas hill country. Over 100 people were killed, including many 8-9 year old girls at a summer camp. Many people on this board knew some of these people, or have close friends or relatives who were related to these people. Meaningful discussions can be had surrounding how/why that happened and what can be done to prevent it or make it at least less likely in the future.

Can you refrain from clogging up this thread with your antisemitic garbage? There are plenty of threads specifically about Israel where you can go do that.

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I can refrain as long as people are not forced to sign "garbage" BDS pledges that they will not boycott Israel before they can recieve their disaster aid like the last time this happened.

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Are you a bane on the existence of everyone around you in real life, or just on this board?

The_barBEARian said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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man what is going on lmao pic.twitter.com/hNdKVJtdN8

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) July 8, 2025

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AI doesn't "know" anything. All it does it aggregate. So when it makes wild statements that's because it "learned" that from all the collective posts it skimmed.

The AI isn't racist or antisemitic…but the underlying posts where it gets its information are.

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Are you familiar with the concept of AGI?

The goal is for AI to aggregate data and form hypothesis and conclusions.

Billions were not spent and countless hours from the world's brightest minds for the end result to be a copy/paste bot...

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Yeah. It doesn't work. It's cold fusion. It's the future state. Not the present.

It's why AI excels at chess but not logic games.