This is a major improvement over drug gangs and screaming vagrants. Thank God we've got good people willing to bring safety back to the nation's capital! https://t.co/es91Dxn51C
— JD Vance (@JDVance) August 21, 2025
Trump Federalizes DC police and sends in the national guard
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Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:HOME RULE: The ‘yutes’ that normally terrorize the streets of DC on Friday and Saturday nights were strangely missing this evening as US Marshals began their patrols. Law abiding residents took advantage of the calm to dine out according to OpenTable.pic.twitter.com/jokeDtnSib
— @amuse (@amuse) August 16, 2025
This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.
As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.
More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.
Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...
Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?
[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.
Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.
National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.
Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]
Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?
We are talking about DC
Its LEGAL for him to be involved in policing DC
That is what we are discussing on this thread.
Now if you want to have another thread discussion about potential Federal involvement in other cities then we can have a different discussion.
But right now we are dealing with Washington DC....a federal district....and one that Congress has authorized the President to have some control over.
No, I brought up other cities. Other being other than DC. And yes that is perfectly legal. What would not be legal, is what Trump suggested, that they take over other cities.
And Trump has not done anything like that yet
Like usual you are jumping at shadows and reacting to hypotheticals
Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:HOME RULE: The ‘yutes’ that normally terrorize the streets of DC on Friday and Saturday nights were strangely missing this evening as US Marshals began their patrols. Law abiding residents took advantage of the calm to dine out according to OpenTable.pic.twitter.com/jokeDtnSib
— @amuse (@amuse) August 16, 2025
This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.
As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.
More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.
Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...
Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?
[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.
Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.
National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.
Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]
Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities.
LOL! Bless your heart. One of the most basic, fundamental requirements of government is to protect its citizens. That is supposedly why citizens pay taxes. If your beloved Blue states aren't going to do their job, Donald Trump will do it for them.
Still have no idea why you people would rather have chaos and anarchy instead of law & order. You should get really nervous when the "well organized militia" is fed up with the lawlessness.
Bless my heart for thinking the Founders had some good points regarding limits on federal power? Lol dont be dumb like these other wankers R2D2, the federal takeover of cities is a very bad thing. Just imagine Democrats doing it, taking over the police forces of Republican cities, if you can't see why.
Policing doesn't need to be yet another political football we get whiplashed with every 4 or 8 years.
1. Policing already became a political football long ago when the Left decided "equity" demanded they pull back on enforcing the law in urban cities since more often than not it was young black men being arrest for serious crimes.
That was the politicization of the issue…and the Left started it
And it went into overdrive after the summer of riots in 2020
Massive pull back of street policing and the across the board down grading of arrests/charges
2. There are no limits on Federal power to enforce the law in Washington DC
It's a Federal district under the complete control of Congress and those that Congress cedes oversight authority to (like the President and local city council)
It has no rights on its own.
It's a compete creation of the Congress and it's a geographic area given to them by the Constitution…so they don't have to rely on any one particular State or local population for the security of Congress.
Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:HOME RULE: The ‘yutes’ that normally terrorize the streets of DC on Friday and Saturday nights were strangely missing this evening as US Marshals began their patrols. Law abiding residents took advantage of the calm to dine out according to OpenTable.pic.twitter.com/jokeDtnSib
— @amuse (@amuse) August 16, 2025
This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.
As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.
More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.
Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...
Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?
[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.
Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.
National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.
Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]
Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?
We are talking about DC
Its LEGAL for him to be involved in policing DC
That is what we are discussing on this thread.
Now if you want to have another thread discussion about potential Federal involvement in other cities then we can have a different discussion.
But right now we are dealing with Washington DC....a federal district....and one that Congress has authorized the President to have some control over.
No, I brought up other cities. Other being other than DC. And yes that is perfectly legal. What would not be legal, is what Trump suggested, that they take over other cities.
And Trump has not done anything like that yet
Like usually you are jumping at shadows and reacting to hypotheticals
I'm just saying it's crazy to even consider. And him trying to expand the executive branch's power in every way imaginable is not hypothetical, we are watching it happen at an incredible rate.
Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Porteroso said:Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:HOME RULE: The ‘yutes’ that normally terrorize the streets of DC on Friday and Saturday nights were strangely missing this evening as US Marshals began their patrols. Law abiding residents took advantage of the calm to dine out according to OpenTable.pic.twitter.com/jokeDtnSib
— @amuse (@amuse) August 16, 2025
This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.
As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.
More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.
Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...
Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?
[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.
Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.
National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.
Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]
Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities.
LOL! Bless your heart. One of the most basic, fundamental requirements of government is to protect its citizens. That is supposedly why citizens pay taxes. If your beloved Blue states aren't going to do their job, Donald Trump will do it for them.
Still have no idea why you people would rather have chaos and anarchy instead of law & order. You should get really nervous when the "well organized militia" is fed up with the lawlessness.
Bless my heart for thinking the Founders had some good points regarding limits on federal power? Lol dont be dumb like these other wankers R2D2, the federal takeover of cities is a very bad thing. Just imagine Democrats doing it, taking over the police forces of Republican cities, if you can't see why.
Policing doesn't need to be yet another political football we get whiplashed with every 4 or 8 years.
1. Policing already became a political football long ago when the Left decided "equity" demanded they pull back on enforcing the law in urban cities since more often than not it was young black men being arrest for serious crimes.
That was the politicization of the issue…and the Left started it
And it went into overdrive after the summer of riots in 2020
Massive pull back of street policing and the across the board down grading of arrests/charges
2. There are no limits on Federal power to enforce the law in Washington DC
It's a Federal district under the complete control of Congress and those that Congress cedes oversight authority to (like the President and local city council)
It has no rights on its own.
It's a compete creation of the Congress and it's a geographic area given to them by the Constitution…so they don't have to rely on any one particular State or local population for the security of Congress.
To your first point, you will have to be honest about what the discussion is about. Of course policing is political. It was long before "thuh left" "took it over" in urban cities. I am purely talking about federal involvement (takeover) in local policing, which as we have established is ILLEGAL and yet apparently on the table. Probably just Trump talking bs again though. Nothing to jump at, right?
Also there are absolutely limits on the federal government's power over DC policing. Read up on it!
Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
Waco1947
Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
In this case, absolutely. People were dying. No reported murders since the National Guard went in. That should please any pastor.
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Redbrickbear said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Using Military troops against your own citizens has always been frowned upon by Republics since, I don't know maybe Caesar crossing the Rubicon...
Redbrickbear said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Exactly. A 100-person roving gang had just taken over DC and the Police couldnt do a thing about it. The Police Union begged for the help
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer claims he goes for walks by himself around DC bc it’s so safe.
— MAGA Jersey Girl (@MAGAJerseyGirl) August 14, 2025
Meanwhile, a Secret Service agent texted @willcain today and said he always has a full Secret Service detail and a limo. The liar never walks anywhere. pic.twitter.com/ybGN5uUyeO
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Using Military troops against your own citizens has always been frowned upon by Republics since, I don't know maybe Caesar crossing the Rubicon...
1. Lets leave aside the Republican President who did that on a massive scale in 1861...against the wishes of the States and Citizens located there.
2. The great Republican President (and war hero) Eisenhower used Federal troops to enforce the law in 1957
[President Eisenhower used federal troops in September 1957 to enforce the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School, sending the 101st Airborne Division and federalizing the Arkansas National Guard to escort and protect the "Little Rock Nine".]
And that was of course against the wishes of State leaders at the time.
3. And in this case we are talking about the Federal District where the President has the authority (from Congressional lawmakers and legislation) to enforce the law in the District of Columbia.
[section 740 of the District of Columbia Self-Government and Governmental Reorganization Act (Public Law 93-198), as amended (section 740 of the Home Rule Act), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code]
Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Using Military troops against your own citizens has always been frowned upon by Republics since, I don't know maybe Caesar crossing the Rubicon...
1. Lets leave aside the Republican President who did that on a massive scale in 1861...against the wishes of the States and Citizens located there.
2. The great Republican President (and war hero) Eisenhower used Federal troops to enforce the law in 1957
[President Eisenhower used federal troops in September 1957 to enforce the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School, sending the 101st Airborne Division and federalizing the Arkansas National Guard to escort and protect the "Little Rock Nine".]
And that was of course against the wishes of State leaders at the time.
3. And in this case we are talking about the Federal District where the President has the authority (from Congressional lawmakers and legislation) to enforce the law in the District of Columbia.
[section 740 of the District of Columbia Self-Government and Governmental Reorganization Act (Public Law 93-198), as amended (section 740 of the Home Rule Act), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code]
Oops...
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Does it seem like democrats want more crime not less?
ScottS said:
Does it seem like democrats want more crime not less?
That's what they campaign on. Biden-Harris signs, "Make more crime, do less time!"
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
Yes.
Trump with a great speech on patrol in DC.
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
Can you tell me what would be better? You could send in Biden, Schmer, Obama, Pelosi, and Jasmine Crockett as a militia instead?
Apparently they are using the National Guard to guard monuments and other stuff so that DC Capital Police can do the majority of the sweeps, or at least lead the sweeps. Makes sense until DC hires more cops
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Turns out crime is just a choice. You can just choose to get rid of it. https://t.co/C13M2nlYiN
— captive dreamer (@avaricum777) August 21, 2025
Redbrickbear said:Turns out crime is just a choice. You can just choose to get rid of it. https://t.co/C13M2nlYiN
— captive dreamer (@avaricum777) August 21, 2025
But the Democrats are Pro Crime. Why would they want crime wiped out?
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
https://t.co/ruUsTDemVj pic.twitter.com/ryVdhC9oOD
— Mrs. Brassenstein (@MBrassenstein) August 21, 2025
Assassin said:Redbrickbear said:Turns out crime is just a choice. You can just choose to get rid of it. https://t.co/C13M2nlYiN
— captive dreamer (@avaricum777) August 21, 2025
But the Democrats are Pro Crime. Why would they want crime wiped out?
They continue to jump on the 20 side of 80/20 issues. What if say Trump said....hey liberals....you gotta breathe air?
Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
Would you risk the life of your boyfriend to make such a determination ?
Redbrickbear said:Turns out crime is just a choice. You can just choose to get rid of it. https://t.co/C13M2nlYiN
— captive dreamer (@avaricum777) August 21, 2025
Oh facts ... the hobgoblin of the Democrat mind.
Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
I bet the law abiding locals in the distressed areas of Chicago would like to see it for 30 days of respite.
EatMoreSalmon said:KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
I bet the law abiding locals in the distressed areas of Chicago would like to see it for 30 days of respite.
Seem to recall a BU grad living in Chicago who said the locals would fight any National Guardsmen who were sent to aid the police.
KaiBear said:EatMoreSalmon said:KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
I bet the law abiding locals in the distressed areas of Chicago would like to see it for 30 days of respite.
Seem to recall a BU grad living in Chicago who said the locals would fight any National Guardsmen who were sent to aid the police.
He's part of a pretty small band!
Assassin said:Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:Harrison Bergeron said:Waco1947 said:
Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?
Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
Got it. Thank you. Is the army the right tool for high crime areas?
If local authorities refuse to arrest and prosecute criminals.
Then yes..... it might been necessary for State authorities to step in....or for Federal authorities to step in if its Washington DC (a Federal district). The Army reserve might be needed in those situations to help police or deal with riots
Policing crime is one of the key and listed purposes of Government.
Using Military troops against your own citizens has always been frowned upon by Republics since, I don't know maybe Caesar crossing the Rubicon...
1. Lets leave aside the Republican President who did that on a massive scale in 1861...against the wishes of the States and Citizens located there.
2. The great Republican President (and war hero) Eisenhower used Federal troops to enforce the law in 1957
[President Eisenhower used federal troops in September 1957 to enforce the desegregation of Little Rock Central High School, sending the 101st Airborne Division and federalizing the Arkansas National Guard to escort and protect the "Little Rock Nine".]
And that was of course against the wishes of State leaders at the time.
3. And in this case we are talking about the Federal District where the President has the authority (from Congressional lawmakers and legislation) to enforce the law in the District of Columbia.
[section 740 of the District of Columbia Self-Government and Governmental Reorganization Act (Public Law 93-198), as amended (section 740 of the Home Rule Act), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code]
Oops...
PS
I should have also pointed out that one of the greatest Republican presidents of all time also called in troops against local wishes (thought not as a President but at a elected governor)
[As California governor in 1969, Ronald Reagan sent the National Guard to quell violent protests at Berkeley. The deployment came after a day of violent clashes known as "Bloody Thursday" during the People's Park protests.
The context: Following a 1966 campaign in which Reagan vowed to "clean up the mess at Berkeley," tensions were high with student protesters. The situation escalated on May 15, 1969, when the university fenced off a plot of land that activists had turned into a "People's Park".
Bloody Thursday: A protest rally drew thousands, leading to confrontations between police and demonstrators. James Rector, a bystander watching from a rooftop, was shot and died from his wounds four days later. At least 128 other residents suffered injuries.
National Guard deployment: In response to the violence, Reagan declared a state of emergency and sent approximately 2,200 to 2,700 National Guard troops to the city. The National Guard remained in Berkeley for 17 days.]
KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
Lots of videos of Chicago folks begging for Trump to go there
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
— Victory is Certain! (@Tim505688082466) August 24, 2025
Interesting. There is a zero-tolerance rule in place but DC Police did nothing about this gang
HOME RULE: Hundreds of gang members illegally operated motor vehicles in Washington DC yesterday. Metropolitian Police refused to intervene despite orders from the White House for zero tolerance. pic.twitter.com/2ET6yG1mi3
— @amuse (@amuse) August 24, 2025
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
Assassin said:KaiBear said:boognish_bear said:Trump: After we do this, we will go to another location and make it safe too. Chicago is a mess. That will probably be our next one after this. They are screaming for us to come. African American ladies, beautiful ladies are saying "Please President Trump, come to Chicago,… pic.twitter.com/lh97SsJ2UY
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 22, 2025
Chicago is indeed a mess.
But the locals don't want the national guard patrolling their streets.
Best to go to some other of our **** hole cities where the people would appreciate the help.
Lots of videos of Chicago folks begging for Trump to go there
Whatever
One can always find a few folks to back up ones narrative.
Chicago has been controlled by the Dem machine for decades.
Let them find their own solutions.