Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.
Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Mothra
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Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

Regarding the professionalism, or lack thereof, of the shooter, this guy is spot on. The shot looks like an amateur. Getting in and out without being caught is the slick part.





Thank god we got the inimitable mind of Robert Wilson to declare that the shooter, who is still at large 48hrs hours later after the most high profile successful assassination since JFK, is an amateur....

1) Even the most highly trained person in the world would be extremely stressed and likely rush a shot trying to shoot someone with a highly trained security detail from an exposed position in a crowded public venue with several thousand eyeballs and all the wizardry of modern surveillance available to expose him...

2) If he is a master assassin maybe he intentionally hit the neck to throw people off

Good job, buddy.

Sorry I tried to have a discussion on a message board.

Kill the Jews? That work better for you?

I am sure someone is really heartbroken today that it was some awkward college student, and not a Jew.

If Bovada had odds on this sort of thing, I would have absolutely loaded up on awkward 20-ish year old male, probably at least a momentary trans traveler or trans adjacent. Of course, I might have been wrong. Still could be wrong.

Very likely the kid was a trans sympathizer or antifa, IMO. The fact his father was a cop doesn't phase me. I've an FBI friend who you'd want with you in a dark alley, and his daughter has gone completely off the rails.
Robert Wilson
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Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

Regarding the professionalism, or lack thereof, of the shooter, this guy is spot on. The shot looks like an amateur. Getting in and out without being caught is the slick part.





Thank god we got the inimitable mind of Robert Wilson to declare that the shooter, who is still at large 48hrs hours later after the most high profile successful assassination since JFK, is an amateur....

1) Even the most highly trained person in the world would be extremely stressed and likely rush a shot trying to shoot someone with a highly trained security detail from an exposed position in a crowded public venue with several thousand eyeballs and all the wizardry of modern surveillance available to expose him...

2) If he is a master assassin maybe he intentionally hit the neck to throw people off

Good job, buddy.

Sorry I tried to have a discussion on a message board.

Kill the Jews? That work better for you?

I am sure someone is really heartbroken today that it was some awkward college student, and not a Jew.

If Bovada had odds on this sort of thing, I would have absolutely loaded up on awkward 20-ish year old male, probably at least a momentary trans traveler or trans adjacent. Of course, I might have been wrong. Still could be wrong.

Very likely the kid was a trans sympathizer or antifa, IMO. The fact his father was a cop doesn't phase me. I've an FBI friend who you'd want with you in a dark alley, and his daughter has gone completely off the rails.

I've got kids from grad school to undergrad to high school. So I've spent way more time than I'd like watching teenagers over the last decade. Mine are all fine (grad school daughter thinks I'm a bit of a knuckle dragger but loves me to death and we are all good anyway), but I've seen plenty of these kids. The LEO dad dynamic might even make it worse if a kid is sliding that direction. I don't mean on purpose or as a criticism, just mean that dynamic could accelerate it. Awkward, uncomfortable, probably lonely, kinda angry, finds whatever on the internet or with a group of people at school, and off you go.

There's nothing more dangerous than young males who can't find any path or direction. These days, the trans movement is a huge dragnet that catches lots of them at some point because it is built for "oh, you don't fit in?"...
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Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

iRegarding the professionalism, or lack thereof, of the shooter, this guy is spot on. The shot looks like an amateur. Getting in and out without being caught is the slick part.





Thank god we got the inimitable mind of Robert Wilson to declare that the shooter, who is still at large 48hrs hours later after the most high profile successful assassination since JFK, is an amateur....

1) Even the most highly trained person in the world would be extremely stressed and likely rush a shot trying to shoot someone with a highly trained security detail from an exposed position in a crowded public venue with several thousand eyeballs and all the wizardry of modern surveillance available to expose him...

2) If he is a master assassin maybe he intentionally hit the neck to throw people off

Good job, buddy.

Sorry I tried to have a discussion on a message board.

Kill the Jews? That work better for you?

I am sure someone is really heartbroken today that it was some awkward college student, and not a Jew.

If Bovada had odds on this sort of thing, I would have absolutely loaded up on awkward 20-ish year old male, probably at least a momentary trans traveler or trans adjacent. Of course, I might have been wrong. Still could be wrong.

Very likely the kid was a trans sympathizer or antifa, IMO. The fact his father was a cop doesn't phase me. I've an FBI friend who you'd want with you in a dark alley, and his daughter has gone completely off the rails.

I've got kids from grad school to undergrad to high school. So I've spent way more time than I'd like watching teenagers over the last decade. Mine are all fine (grad school daughter thinks I'm a bit of a knuckle dragger but loves me to death and we are all good anyway), but I've seen plenty of these kids. The LEO dad dynamic might even make it worse if a kid is sliding that direction. I don't mean on purpose or as a criticism, just mean that dynamic could accelerate it. Awkward, uncomfortable, probably lonely, kinda angry, finds whatever on the internet or with a group of people at school, and off you go.

There's nothing more dangerous than young males who can't find any path or direction. These days, the trans movement is a huge dragnet that catches lots of them at some point because it is built for "oh, you don't fit in?"...

Wouldn't doubt that some of these folk feel they will achieve Luigi Mangione status. I'm betting Luigi wishes he didn't have that status today
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Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

Regarding the professionalism, or lack thereof, of the shooter, this guy is spot on. The shot looks like an amateur. Getting in and out without being caught is the slick part.





Thank god we got the inimitable mind of Robert Wilson to declare that the shooter, who is still at large 48hrs hours later after the most high profile successful assassination since JFK, is an amateur....

1) Even the most highly trained person in the world would be extremely stressed and likely rush a shot trying to shoot someone with a highly trained security detail from an exposed position in a crowded public venue with several thousand eyeballs and all the wizardry of modern surveillance available to expose him...

2) If he is a master assassin maybe he intentionally hit the neck to throw people off

Good job, buddy.

Sorry I tried to have a discussion on a message board.

Kill the Jews? That work better for you?

I am sure someone is really heartbroken today that it was some awkward college student, and not a Jew.

If Bovada had odds on this sort of thing, I would have absolutely loaded up on awkward 20-ish year old male, probably at least a momentary trans traveler or trans adjacent. Of course, I might have been wrong. Still could be wrong.

Very likely the kid was a trans sympathizer or antifa, IMO. The fact his father was a cop doesn't phase me. I've an FBI friend who you'd want with you in a dark alley, and his daughter has gone completely off the rails.

I've got kids from grad school to undergrad to high school. So I've spent way more time than I'd like watching teenagers over the last decade. Mine are all fine (grad school daughter thinks I'm a bit of a knuckle dragger but loves me to death and we are all good anyway), but I've seen plenty of these kids. The LEO dad dynamic might even make it worse if a kid is sliding that direction. I don't mean on purpose or as a criticism, just mean that dynamic could accelerate it. Awkward, uncomfortable, probably lonely, kinda angry, finds whatever on the internet or with a group of people at school, and off you go.

There's nothing more dangerous than young males who can't find any path or direction. These days, the trans movement is a huge dragnet that catches lots of them at some point because it is built for "oh, you don't fit in?"...

arby's is always a big 'tell'.

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Sam Lowry
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.
Robert Wilson
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Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

iRegarding the professionalism, or lack thereof, of the shooter, this guy is spot on. The shot looks like an amateur. Getting in and out without being caught is the slick part.





Thank god we got the inimitable mind of Robert Wilson to declare that the shooter, who is still at large 48hrs hours later after the most high profile successful assassination since JFK, is an amateur....

1) Even the most highly trained person in the world would be extremely stressed and likely rush a shot trying to shoot someone with a highly trained security detail from an exposed position in a crowded public venue with several thousand eyeballs and all the wizardry of modern surveillance available to expose him...

2) If he is a master assassin maybe he intentionally hit the neck to throw people off

Good job, buddy.

Sorry I tried to have a discussion on a message board.

Kill the Jews? That work better for you?

I am sure someone is really heartbroken today that it was some awkward college student, and not a Jew.

If Bovada had odds on this sort of thing, I would have absolutely loaded up on awkward 20-ish year old male, probably at least a momentary trans traveler or trans adjacent. Of course, I might have been wrong. Still could be wrong.

Very likely the kid was a trans sympathizer or antifa, IMO. The fact his father was a cop doesn't phase me. I've an FBI friend who you'd want with you in a dark alley, and his daughter has gone completely off the rails.

I've got kids from grad school to undergrad to high school. So I've spent way more time than I'd like watching teenagers over the last decade. Mine are all fine (grad school daughter thinks I'm a bit of a knuckle dragger but loves me to death and we are all good anyway), but I've seen plenty of these kids. The LEO dad dynamic might even make it worse if a kid is sliding that direction. I don't mean on purpose or as a criticism, just mean that dynamic could accelerate it. Awkward, uncomfortable, probably lonely, kinda angry, finds whatever on the internet or with a group of people at school, and off you go.

There's nothing more dangerous than young males who can't find any path or direction. These days, the trans movement is a huge dragnet that catches lots of them at some point because it is built for "oh, you don't fit in?"...

Wouldn't doubt that some of these folk feel they will achieve Luigi Mangione status. I'm betting Luigi wishes he didn't have that status today

Well, sure, the fact that so many people on the left (not near a majority of the left, but a substantial minority that doesn't get shouted down by the majority) turn this person into a hero makes it worse. This kid right now is a hero to [estimate # of people] because he shot Charlie Kirk. Just like they celebrated Mangione.

You know what's worse to some people than being a cult hero and a villain to most? Being irrelevant and purposeless.

So, yeah, it would at least help if we dropped the cult hero status part of this whole equation.
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Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range
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Quote:

Robinson was taken into custody around 11pm local time in southern Utah on Thursday night.


I was wondering how quickly the FBI could do a DNA test to make sure they got the right guy. AI says the process can be completed in 1 to 2 hours.

Quote:

The processing time for an FBI DNA test varies significantly, from under two hours for certain samples to several months, depending on the test type and the laboratory's workload. The FBI does not perform personal DNA tests like paternity or ancestry analysis.
Factors affecting processing time
Test type
Rapid DNA: For certain reference samples like a cheek swab from an arrestee, the FBI's Rapid DNA program can produce a profile in 90 minutes to two hours. This allows for near real-time searches against the national DNA database (CODIS) for investigative leads while a suspect is still in custody.

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boognish_bear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range

Single males in that age range are very fragile.
Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.
Pretty sure years in isolation without DUE PROCESS was enough punishment for unarmed people touring the capitol. Unless, now you don't care about due process? Funny how that works, you care about due process for violent wife beating human smugglers who have seen a judge twice but don't care about due process for Americans. Let's put you in prison in isolation for 4 years then let you free and see how you label that experience. I'm thinking you'd admit that is a prosecution.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.


Wow!

You have truly let your TDS destroy your brain.

Anyone who compares J6 to any of these horribly violent left wing actions.... it's a truly lost soul.

Sadly there is no more hope for you. You are fully embracing your derangement. You are comfortable with your insanity. The FBI needs to keep a close eye on you, for the safety of our society.


ShooterTX
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men O...



Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

FBI likely outnumbered the real 'bad actors' that day----

No excuse for those who did criminal acts and even the buffoonish Lectern Man* -

But NP did indeed turn down Natl Guard support as offered by The Big Orange........

- el KKM



And we had people in Solitary condiment for months / years who did nothing wrong other enter the Capitol that day.
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william said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men O...



Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

FBI likely outnumbered the real 'bad actors' that day----

No excuse for those who did criminal acts and even the buffoonish Lectern Man* -

But NP did indeed turn down Natl Guard support as offered by The Big Orange........

- el KKM



And we had people in Solitary condiment for months / years who did nothing wrong other enter the Capitol that day.

Not a fan of Chip Gaines for what he did here
Sam Lowry
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

Pretty sure years in isolation without DUE PROCESS was enough punishment for unarmed people touring the capitol. Unless, now you don't care about due process? Funny how that works, you care about due process for violent wife beating human smugglers who have seen a judge twice but don't care about due process for Americans. Let's put you in prison in isolation for 4 years then let you free and see how you label that experience. I'm thinking you'd admit that is a prosecution.

Debunked conspiracy theories are also very much part of the problem.
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william said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men O...



Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

FBI likely outnumbered the real 'bad actors' that day----

No excuse for those who did criminal acts and even the buffoonish Lectern Man* -

But NP did indeed turn down Natl Guard support as offered by The Big Orange........

And we had people in Solitary condiment for months / years who did nothing wrong other enter the Capitol that day.

True statements in bold.
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Who knows if accurate....we've heard several different things about inscriptions in the casings

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boognish_bear said:



another wasted life with a skull full of indoctrinated mush..........

sad - BUT - the next gen appears to be waking up.

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BylrFan said:

boognish_bear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range

Single males in that age range are very fragile.


I hear that the dating apps don't help. (I'm making up numbers) but 80% of the women (high percentage) are after 20% of the men. Short men and low wage guys really struggle to get attention.

I'm on the girl side of the game. There are some awkward and creepy guys out there looking to date. Too many would rather video game than make a connection.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

BylrFan said:

boognish_bear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range

Single males in that age range are very fragile.


I hear that the dating apps don't help. (I'm making up numbers) but 80% of the women (high percentage) are after 20% of the men. Short men and low wage guys really struggle to get attention.

Yeah, I'm sure those apps do magnify the rejection those guys feel. For most of them, if they'd just put their head down and work hard on something for a few years, grow up a little, be productive, all of that would work itself out. But some of them just won't get to that point. It's sad in its own right, but the consequences for the rest of us are also pretty darn bad.

Ironically, those are the kind of guys who could really benefit from lots of the things Kirk was saying. But they don't want to hear it. Requires taking responsibility instead of wallowing and lashing out.
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Robert Wilson said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

BylrFan said:

boognish_bear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range

Single males in that age range are very fragile.


I hear that the dating apps don't help. (I'm making up numbers) but 80% of the women (high percentage) are after 20% of the men. Short men and low wage guys really struggle to get attention.

Yeah, I'm sure those apps do magnify the rejection those guys feel. For most of them, if they'd just put their head down and work hard on something for a few years, grow up a little, be productive, all of that would work itself out. But some of them just won't get to that point. It's sad in its own right, but the consequences for the rest of us are also pretty darn bad.

Ironically, those are the kind of guys who could really benefit from lots of the things Kirk was saying. But they don't want to hear it. Requires taking responsibility instead of wallowing and lashing out.


None of my guys would benefit from anything Kirk said. One of my guys went to Annapolis and is now a Marine pilot. Kirk said he'd question his qualifications.

People will try to understand this shooter. Why did he? Was he mentally ill? My guys will get it blamed on their culture. Even when they don't pull the trigger.
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Assassin said:




This video wouldn't play for me, but reality is exactly the opposite of what he is saying.

Charlie Kirk was down to earth, respectful and rather moderate in his tone. Even rather
moderate in his political stances.

The leftist harpies otoh are extreme, reactive, and borderline insane in some of their
rhetoric and continually calling for battle.

Kirk called for us to debate politely and come together to reason over our disagreements.


These idealogs show they have absolutely no idea what Kirk actually said or what he actually did, or what he actually stood for.
Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

Pretty sure years in isolation without DUE PROCESS was enough punishment for unarmed people touring the capitol. Unless, now you don't care about due process? Funny how that works, you care about due process for violent wife beating human smugglers who have seen a judge twice but don't care about due process for Americans. Let's put you in prison in isolation for 4 years then let you free and see how you label that experience. I'm thinking you'd admit that is a prosecution.

Debunked conspiracy theories are also very much part of the problem.
Absolutely Correct. Heard the one about Russian Collusion? Quid Pro Quo? Pee tapes? Bounties on US soldiers? "Good people on both sides"? Trump on Epstein's client list? January 6th was an insurrection coordinated by Trump? Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't exist? Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation? Ashley Biden's diary is fake? Yeah, debunked conspiracy theories seem to hang around long after the debunking, don't they?
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Robert Wilson
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

BylrFan said:

boognish_bear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Always seems to be someone in the 16 to 22 year old age range

Single males in that age range are very fragile.


I hear that the dating apps don't help. (I'm making up numbers) but 80% of the women (high percentage) are after 20% of the men. Short men and low wage guys really struggle to get attention.

Yeah, I'm sure those apps do magnify the rejection those guys feel. For most of them, if they'd just put their head down and work hard on something for a few years, grow up a little, be productive, all of that would work itself out. But some of them just won't get to that point. It's sad in its own right, but the consequences for the rest of us are also pretty darn bad.

Ironically, those are the kind of guys who could really benefit from lots of the things Kirk was saying. But they don't want to hear it. Requires taking responsibility instead of wallowing and lashing out.


None of my guys would benefit from anything Kirk said. One of my guys went to Annapolis and is now a Marine pilot. Kirk said he'd question his qualifications.

People will try to understand this shooter. Why did he? Was he mentally ill? My guys will get it blamed on their culture. Even when they don't pull the trigger.

Sorry, I'm quite confused by whatever it is you're trying to say.

Who are your guys?

Would not benefit "from anything" he said? Work hard, take responsibility, be a good husband/father, love Jesus... None of them would benefit from *anything* he said?

What was this heinous thing Kirk said?

What were you even disagreeing with exactly?
Forest Bueller_bf
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william said:

boognish_bear said:



another wasted life with a skull full of indoctrinated mush..........

sad - BUT - the next gen appears to be waking up.

- el KKM

D!

Dang, looks like a Beto clone.



Young Beto
Sam Lowry
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Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

Pretty sure years in isolation without DUE PROCESS was enough punishment for unarmed people touring the capitol. Unless, now you don't care about due process? Funny how that works, you care about due process for violent wife beating human smugglers who have seen a judge twice but don't care about due process for Americans. Let's put you in prison in isolation for 4 years then let you free and see how you label that experience. I'm thinking you'd admit that is a prosecution.

Debunked conspiracy theories are also very much part of the problem.

Absolutely Correct. Heard the one about Russian Collusion? Quid Pro Quo? Pee tapes? Bounties on US soldiers? "Good people on both sides"? Trump on Epstein's client list? January 6th was an insurrection coordinated by Trump? Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't exist? Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation? Ashley Biden's diary is fake? Yeah, debunked conspiracy theories seem to hang around long after the debunking, don't they?

Yes, I've debunked several of those in this forum. As Swift rightly said, it is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.
william
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

william said:

boognish_bear said:



another wasted life with a skull full of indoctrinated mush..........

sad - BUT - the next gen appears to be waking up.

- el KKM

D!

Dang, looks like a Beto clone.

wow - very true.........

- KKM

D!
arbyscoin - the only crypto you can eat.
Jacques Strap
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boognish_bear said:

Who knows if accurate....we've heard several different things about inscriptions in the casings




In this morning's press conference the Utah governor said the inscription on the fired (edit 1 of 3 unfired bullet casings) bullet casing was "Hey Fascist! Catch!"

Press conference begins at 1:15:50
1:19:45 is where the bullet casings are discussed


Robert Wilson
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Jacques Strap said:

boognish_bear said:

Who knows if accurate....we've heard several different things about inscriptions in the casings




In this morning's press conference the Utah governor said the inscription on the fired bullet casing was "Hey Fascist! Catch!"


Why are these guys all scrawny with a weird shaped head?
boognish_bear
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I see a lot of people jumping on the fact that his family was conservative with the implication that the kid must be conservative.

That's not how it works. I was raised in a conservative family and my siblings and I cover a range of political beliefs. Same with my wife and her siblings.

Parents obviously have some influence on their kids...but there are no guarantees that kids will take on their parent's belief system.

Jacques Strap
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boognish_bear said:

I see a lot of people jumping on the fact that his family was conservative with the implication that the kid must be conservative.

That's not how it works. I was raised in a conservative family and my siblings and I cover a range of political beliefs. Same with my wife and her siblings.

Parents obviously have some influence on their kids...but kids there are no guarantees that kids will take on their parent's belief system.




During today's press conference they described a conversation about Kirk's upcoming event at the University and that the shooter did not agree with Kirk's political positions.
boognish_bear
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He ain't wrong. I think especially in the hands of kids in their formative years. I really wish there was an effective way to ban it until kids turn 18 or so.

Hell...it's probably not that great for adults either.

Wangchung
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Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Wangchung said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At War
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/men-west-we-are-war

"...As I have always said: Leftists do not care about being right. They only care about winning.

We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.

The problem is that the system is infected. It's infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.

In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.

This is not to say that conscience and respect for order is a weakness. If we didn't have these things then we would be no better than the progressives. My point, however, is that we need to come to grips with the reality that total war has been declared against the west and we must start acting like we are at war if our civilization is going to survive..."

Read the whole thing. It is worth it.

Are you carrying your sidearm today?

He's wrong. This isn't the first time in history that we've had sustained periods of violence from people who hated our society. See for example the wave of anarchist terrorism in the early 20th century. We survived it not because both sides valued order, but because the majority did. Today that consensus is at risk. Every premature declaration of war from the right only undermines it further.

Yes, if only the right would stop considering being attacked, politically prosecuted and/or murdered by the left as a declaration of war against the right...

That the right feels entitled to invade the Capitol and not face prosecution is very much part of the problem.

Pretty sure years in isolation without DUE PROCESS was enough punishment for unarmed people touring the capitol. Unless, now you don't care about due process? Funny how that works, you care about due process for violent wife beating human smugglers who have seen a judge twice but don't care about due process for Americans. Let's put you in prison in isolation for 4 years then let you free and see how you label that experience. I'm thinking you'd admit that is a prosecution.

Debunked conspiracy theories are also very much part of the problem.

Absolutely Correct. Heard the one about Russian Collusion? Quid Pro Quo? Pee tapes? Bounties on US soldiers? "Good people on both sides"? Trump on Epstein's client list? January 6th was an insurrection coordinated by Trump? Hunter Biden's laptop doesn't exist? Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation? Ashley Biden's diary is fake? Yeah, debunked conspiracy theories seem to hang around long after the debunking, don't they?

Yes, I've debunked several of those in this forum. As Swift rightly said, it is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.
Yeah, you railed against those lies all the time and certainly didn't state them as facts many times in your rants against Trump. lol
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

 
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