Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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In reply to Waco1947 • 9:14p, 9/18/25
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During that interview, Trump told host Maria Bartiromo that California Rep. Adam Schiff and other Democrats were "lunatics" and a bigger threat to the U.S. than foreign adversaries like Russia or China.
"I always say, we have two enemies," Trump said, adding: "We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within, and the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia and all these countries."

I don't like Trumps rhetoric most of the time, he talks too much and goes on too much,
Trump is more than rhetoric because words have consequences. He foments hates and lifts up a new target every 10 minutes. He keeps his base stirred up with lies.


Really this is not the time for the left to be pointing fingers. Trump has had multiple assasination attempts on him and Charlie was just now assasinated.

It is very tone death to point fingers right now.

The left foments hatred and anger continually and they have crazy followers to act on it.

In a recent survey the most conservative group of people only had 2% say political assassination could be somewhat justified.

On the far progressive left that number was 26% of people.
and it is not tone, deaf for you to blame radical left?

He stated facts: the Left is responsible for the vast majority of political terrorism in this country over the past 50+ years. Others have listed a few of the dozens of examples. The Right does not do that.

Facts are not tone deaf.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:16p, 9/18/25
Every time that lousy traitor appears on TV I hope he will be asked how many secrets he provided his Chinese spy girlfriend. Of course it won't happen.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:20p, 9/18/25
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Charlie Kirk and George Floyd were both born on October 14... 20 years apart. No joke.


Also the anniversary of the Battle of Hastings in 1066. It was a huge turning point in British and western history. No pun intended.
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In reply to historian • 9:35p, 9/18/25
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You obviously have not read the Book of Revelation and other parts of the New Testament that clearly says otherwise.
Christ Himself said He did not come to destroy or replace the law & the prophets (Old Testament). He came to fulfill it. The Old & New don't contradict each other they compliment each other.


I've read the Bible through several times, including Romans, and Revelation. I just don't read it through the filter of Cyrus Scofield, Hal Lindsey, and Tim LaHaye.

The Old and New *testaments* certainly compliment each other. The Old and New *covenants* do not. ""Take notice: I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you." Galatians 5:2-3. That's about as clear as it gets. Judaism has no part in God's plan going forward. The Jew today is no more chosen than the Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and Atheist.
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9:36p, 9/18/25
When Matt Walsh is right, he is 100% right. This is fire.

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:53p, 9/18/25
A lot of Americans believe that protecting such ideals, and the Constitution, will Make America Great Again.
If you really believe something, your actions should reflect your beliefs. Some would rather talk the walk instead.
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In reply to BUDOS • 9:56p, 9/18/25
Agreed. That's why Charlie was great: he believed it, he said it, and he acted accordingly.
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10:02p, 9/18/25
This is long but a good example of what Charlie did well.

Here is a very outspoken Christian man spending 15 mins talking to young OnlyFans models without once yelling or demeaning them but instead explaining why he thinks they are going down the wrong path.

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10:02p, 9/18/25
Ericka Kirk is the new Turning Point CEO
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10:12p, 9/18/25
The FCC violation angle was always a lie.

Kimmel was fired for suggesting that Charlie Kirk was murdered by his own kind/rhetoric and he refused to apologize for it.

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 10:22p, 9/18/25
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Theoretically everyone is against "hate speech" and we all feel good to say it.

In reality, this is a way for government to gain more power. One day you are censoring David Duke, the next day police show up to Aunt Judy's house for an insensitive post.

Don't fall for it - it's a ruse.

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In reply to Doc Holliday • 10:26p, 9/18/25
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The FCC violation angle was always a lie.

Kimmel was fired for suggesting that Charlie Kirk was murdered by his own kind/rhetoric and he refused to apologize for it.



you are going to hear this talking point for the next week - " Donald Trump is BANNING comedians."

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10:35p, 9/18/25
Oh boy...

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In reply to Waco1947 • 11:56p, 9/18/25
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Forest Bueller_bf said:
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During that interview, Trump told host Maria Bartiromo that California Rep. Adam Schiff and other Democrats were "lunatics" and a bigger threat to the U.S. than foreign adversaries like Russia or China.
"I always say, we have two enemies," Trump said, adding: "We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within, and the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia and all these countries."

I don't like Trumps rhetoric most of the time, he talks too much and goes on too much,
Trump is more than rhetoric because words have consequences. He foments hates and lifts up a new target every 10 minutes. He keeps his base stirred up with lies.


Really this is not the time for the left to be pointing fingers. Trump has had multiple assasination attempts on him and Charlie was just now assasinated.

It is very tone death to point fingers right now.

The left foments hatred and anger continually and they have crazy followers to act on it.

In a recent survey the most conservative group of people only had 2% say political assassination could be somewhat justified.

On the far progressive left that number was 26% of people.
and it is not tone, deaf for you to blame radical left?


Sorry I was so off. Actually 46 percent of far left thought assassination was acceptable. 2 percent of far right.

I'll work on being more accurate next time.
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In reply to Forest Bueller • 6:51a, 9/19/25
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Waco1947 said:
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During that interview, Trump told host Maria Bartiromo that California Rep. Adam Schiff and other Democrats were "lunatics" and a bigger threat to the U.S. than foreign adversaries like Russia or China.
"I always say, we have two enemies," Trump said, adding: "We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within, and the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia and all these countries."

I don't like Trumps rhetoric most of the time, he talks too much and goes on too much,
Trump is more than rhetoric because words have consequences. He foments hates and lifts up a new target every 10 minutes. He keeps his base stirred up with lies.


Really this is not the time for the left to be pointing fingers. Trump has had multiple assasination attempts on him and Charlie was just now assasinated.

It is very tone death to point fingers right now.

The left foments hatred and anger continually and they have crazy followers to act on it.

In a recent survey the most conservative group of people only had 2% say political assassination could be somewhat justified.

On the far progressive left that number was 26% of people.

and it is not tone, deaf for you to blame radical left?


Sorry I was so off. Actually 46 percent of far left thought assassination was acceptable. 2 percent of far right.

I'll work on being more accurate next time.


Here is one recent example...

Ken White, also known by his online pseudonym Popehat, is a prominent First Amendment litigator, criminal defense attorney, and writer based in Los Angeles. A former federal prosecutor, White is best known for his legal commentary and advocacy for free speech, particularly online.



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We can hope

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 7:18a, 9/19/25
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Theoretically everyone is against "hate speech" and we all feel good to say it.

In reality, this is a way for government to gain more power. One day you are censoring David Duke, the next day police show up to Aunt Judy's house for an insensitive post.

Don't fall for it - it's a ruse.

Free speech has not been banned in the UK and they will arrest anyone who says it has
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 7:21a, 9/19/25
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The fact that Tampon Timmy is on TV is proof positive that comedians are not banned from TV.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 7:49a, 9/19/25
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The FCC violation angle was always a lie.

Kimmel was fired for suggesting that Charlie Kirk was murdered by his own kind/rhetoric and he refused to apologize for it.



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In reply to Realitybites • 7:50a, 9/19/25
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Jews remain a chosen people, with a future role in God's plan . If you don't believe so, then you haven't studied Romans or Revelation very closely.


This is straight up heresy. What part of "New Covenant" and "Old Covenant" don't you understand? If Judaism has any part of the future, it is to welcome the antichrist into the world in a futile temple that is engaging in pointless animal sacrifices.

This false understanding comes from a misapplication of the unconditional Abrahamic covenant to national Israel, whose covenant was conditional and cancellled...a misunderstanding that is widespread in Evangelical circles.

I tell you what, let's go to the source:

Romans 11:28-29 states, "28 Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 29 God does not take back his gifts or cancel his calling." This passage clearly explains that while the Jewish people are currently enemies of the gospel for the sake of the Gentiles, God still loves them because of His covenant promises to their forefathers, and His gifts and calling are irrevocable.

Now, that does not mean one is saved because they are Jewish. To the contrary, Christ said that it is only through him that man can be saved - and that spiritual promise applies to all people - Jew and Gentile. However, Zechariah 12:10 predicts a future national repentance by the Jewish people, where they will "look on him whom they have pierced" and mourn for their past rejection of Jesus as Messiah.

Moreover, in Romans 11:25-27, Paul discusses a "mystery" where a "hardening" of Israel will continue only "until the full number of Gentiles comes in," after which "all Israel will be saved". This is widely interpreted by many biblical scholars as referring to the future salvation of the Jewish people through faith in Jesus Christ.

Revelation Chapters 7 and 14 reference the 144,000, a special group of Israelites chosen by God for His end-time purposes. Many biblical scholars interpret this to mean Christ's work in Israel in the end time will lead to many Jewish people coming to the Lord.

The idea that the Abrahamic covenant was "cancelled" simply isn't suggested, much less stated, in scripture. Your position on this is completely erroneous, against the great weight of scripture, and indeed, heretical.
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In reply to historian • 7:53a, 9/19/25
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Realitybites said:
Mothra said:

Jews remain a chosen people, with a future role in God's plan . If you don't believe so, then you haven't studied Romans or Revelation very closely.


This is straight up heresy. What part of "New Covenant" and "Old Covenant" don't you understand? If Judaism has any part of the future, it is to welcome the antichrist into the world in a futile temple that is engaging in pointless animal sacrifices.

This false understanding comes from a misapplication of the unconditional Abrahamic covenant to national Israel, whose covenant was conditional and cancellled...a misunderstanding that is widespread in Evangelical circles.

You obviously have not read the Book of Revelation and other parts of the New Testament that clearly says otherwise.
Christ Himself said He did not come to destroy or replace the law & the prophets (Old Testament). He came to fulfill it. The Old & New don't contradict each other they compliment each other.

The truth contradicts their anti-semitic beliefs, and so they therefore choose the latter over the former.
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In reply to Assassin • 8:01a, 9/19/25
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We can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:06a, 9/19/25
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Assassin said:
TuWe can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

The WSJ forgets that the left has been doing this for decades; the right is FINALLY fighting back.
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In reply to historian • 8:07a, 9/19/25
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Mothra said:
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Hell, one of your buddies blames them for Jesus's death.


That is a documented fact of history recorded in the God inspired words of the New Testament in Luke 23:13-23:

"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, said to them, "You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. I will therefore chastise Him and release Him" (for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).

And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.

Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"

Then he said to them the third time, "Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go."

But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed."

The Gospel of Matthew provides even more detail about their insistence, saying "And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

If that's not enough, Saint Paul reiterates this in Acts 13:

""Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death."

Yes, Christ died at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees, but anyone who thinks that was not according to Christ's preordained plan, and that he did not choose to die in the way that he died, is likely not a Christian. Indeed, the poster in question admitted as much.

And therein lies the issue. Anyone focused on who killed Jesus and using it as a cudgel to disparage the Jewish people, as your buddy did, is an antisemitic person. Christ is God. He chose his own death, and who would kill him. And but for that death, you and I and the rest of the Gentiles would be in real trouble. (Let's also not forget that Christ and his disciples were Jewish).

Anyone attempting to hold that against the Jews is a bigot, plain and simple. It's kind of shocking that you are defending such bigotry.

Christ died at the behest of the Jews. Not just the Pharisees. Not just the Sanhedrin. The Bible specifically says:

"And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

While nobody should use this as a cudgel to disparage Jewish people individually, it is an indictment of the Jewish religion, for what exists under the label of Judaism today is the continuation of the religion of the Pharisees.

No Christian should be a defender of Phariseeism under the label Judeo-Christian.

Indeed, the Pharisees had stirred up the crowd against Christ. But the idea that ALL Jews wanted Christ dead ignores the fact there were numerous converts among the Jews.

All religions that are opposed to Christ are wrong, not just the Jews. That does not mean Jews are still not a chosen people.

They were chosen by God to receive the messiah and they had him killed. Those who realized that he was messiah and followed him were and are part of the chose body of Christ which is we Christians (obviously many were jews). Jews in their Talmud have nothing but blasphemy for Christ and Mary. This is why there is no such thing as Judeo Christian bc those terms are not compatible. Muslims at least consider Jesus as a prophet.

John chapter 8 tells us a lot about what Jesus thought about the pharisees.

Observations:

Judeo-Christian is a legitimate term defining one of the foundations of western civilization. It's the most important one.
Mary has nothing to do with it. She was chosen by God for an important role but so was Moses, David, the prophets & disciples, John the Baptist, etc. Like the rest of the biblical heroes, Mary served God but is not God and does not merit any kind of adoration or reverence. God alone deserves that.
As stated above, we all are responsible for Christ's crucifixion because He voluntarily sacrificed himself for all of our sins. There is no point in blaming any group of people. Blaming Jews historically has been an excuse for antisemitism, a reprehensible practice condemned by God.
Many Jews have become Christian's over the years and are today. Many more are destined to be saved. Like everyone else who is saved, the angels in heaven will rejoice when that happens.



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In reply to Jack Bauer • 8:22a, 9/19/25
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Oh boy...


We are living in Trump's America.
These are dark times that we are in.
Someone has to get a handle on this white on white crime.

RIP to Charles Kirk.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:25a, 9/19/25
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
We can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.


I agree with you that the FCC chairs words were unhelpful. But the more I develop into this the more I think this was just an excuse used by ABC to get rid of a divisive figure who had crappy ratings. There is no evidence or indication that any formal complaint or threat of Penalty was ever issued by the FCC. There are steps that must be taken before you take a license or penalize a broadcaster. And the fact is we have no evidence whatsoever that any of that occurred. So I think we need to be careful not to attribute too much blame to the FCC on this matter. Quite frankly, I think it's being used as a mere excuse.
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In reply to Mothra • 8:36a, 9/19/25
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
We can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.


I agree with you that the FCC chairs words were unhelpful. But the more I develop into this the more I think this was just an excuse used by ABC to get rid of a divisive figure who had crappy ratings. There is no evidence or indication that any formal complaint or threat of Penalty was ever issued by the FCC. There are steps that must be taken before you take a license or penalize a broadcaster. And the fact is we have no evidence whatsoever that any of that occurred. So I think we need to be careful not to attribute too much blame to the FCC on this matter. Quite frankly, I think it's being used as a mere excuse.

Thats exactly what I thought when i heard this. If Colbert was losing $40 million then Kimmel was losing at least $20 million if not more. This was just their excuse to cut a loser. Disney is losing money from all their woke movies and is cutting left and right.
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In reply to muddybrazos • 8:39a, 9/19/25
muddybrazos said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
We can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.


I agree with you that the FCC chairs words were unhelpful. But the more I develop into this the more I think this was just an excuse used by ABC to get rid of a divisive figure who had crappy ratings. There is no evidence or indication that any formal complaint or threat of Penalty was ever issued by the FCC. There are steps that must be taken before you take a license or penalize a broadcaster. And the fact is we have no evidence whatsoever that any of that occurred. So I think we need to be careful not to attribute too much blame to the FCC on this matter. Quite frankly, I think it's being used as a mere excuse.

Thats exactly what I thought when i heard this. If Colbert was losing $40 million then Kimmel was losing at least $20 million if not more. This was just their excuse to cut a loser. Disney is losing money from all their woke movies and is cutting left and right.

Disney is a public company, they have an obligation to their shareholders to cut the crap off and move on
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In reply to Assassin • 8:45a, 9/19/25
Assassin said:
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
TuWe can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

The WSJ forgets that the left has been doing this for decades; the right is FINALLY fighting back.

The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest."
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In reply to muddybrazos • 8:56a, 9/19/25
muddybrazos said:
Mothra said:
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
We can hope



From WSJ:

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.


I agree with you that the FCC chairs words were unhelpful. But the more I develop into this the more I think this was just an excuse used by ABC to get rid of a divisive figure who had crappy ratings. There is no evidence or indication that any formal complaint or threat of Penalty was ever issued by the FCC. There are steps that must be taken before you take a license or penalize a broadcaster. And the fact is we have no evidence whatsoever that any of that occurred. So I think we need to be careful not to attribute too much blame to the FCC on this matter. Quite frankly, I think it's being used as a mere excuse.

Thats exactly what I thought when i heard this. If Colbert was losing $40 million then Kimmel was losing at least $20 million if not more. This was just their excuse to cut a loser. Disney is losing money from all their woke movies and is cutting left and right.


Yep...the truth is these shows sucked so bad that nobody wanted to watch them. You have unfunny hosts and the shows were losing millions.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 9:03a, 9/19/25
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Doc Holliday said:
The FCC violation angle was always a lie.

Kimmel was fired for suggesting that Charlie Kirk was murdered by his own kind/rhetoric and he refused to apologize for it.



you are going to hear this talking point for the next week - " Donald Trump is BANNING comedians."

He's doing exactly that.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 9:03a, 9/19/25
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The FCC violation angle was always a lie.

Kimmel was fired for suggesting that Charlie Kirk was murdered by his own kind/rhetoric and he refused to apologize for it.


Democrats in desperation mode as the center is getting red-pilled on leftist intolerance
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