A Prayer Of Salvation

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xfrodobagginsx said:


I feel the Holy Spirit, I have had visions, God has spoken to me and directed my life and that doesn't maje me prideful. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Yes you can feel the Holy Spirit in a God centered Worship Setvice and if you don't feel it at your Church, I would sugggest that there is a nog problem in your Church.



There is a difference between "feeling the Holy Spirit" and "sensing the presence of God."'

It might sound like a subtle difference, but in fact it is not.

I sense the presence of God at an Orthodox Liturgy, but this is something I sense externally to me. On the other hand, feelings are your internal reaction and interpretation of what is occurring around you.

The general idea of the modern evangelical service is the present a product compatible with the pre-existing sensibilities of the viewer so that the external mechanics generate a feeling within a person that they equate to feeling the Holy Spirit.

It's the difference between this (not offered with any specific doctrinal implications, but as a general example)



and this



This is why the early church did not permit instrumental music in its worship, and the Eastern Orthodox Liturgy does not allow it to this day.
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Realitybites said:

xfrodobagginsx said:


I feel the Holy Spirit, I have had visions, God has spoken to me and directed my life and that doesn't maje me prideful. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Yes you can feel the Holy Spirit in a God centered Worship Setvice and if you don't feel it at your Church, I would sugggest that there is a nog problem in your Church.



There is a difference between "feeling the Holy Spirit" and "sensing the presence of God."'

It might sound like a subtle difference, but in fact it is not.

I sense the presence of God at an Orthodox Liturgy, but this is something I sense externally to me. On the other hand, feelings are your internal reaction and interpretation of what is occurring around you.

The general idea of the modern evangelical service is the present a product compatible with the pre-existing sensibilities of the viewer so that the external mechanics generate a feeling within a person that they equate to feeling the Holy Spirit.

It's the difference between this (not offered with any specific doctrinal implications, but as a general example)



and this



This is why the early church did not permit instrumental music in its worship, and the Eastern Orthodox Liturgy does not allow it to this day.


There is no difference between feeling the Holy Spirit and sensing the presence of God because the Holy Spirit IS God.

As far as the Early Church not permitting instruments in Worship Service that is BUNK. That is not Scriptural and even IF they didn't, there is nothing Scripturally to say that we can't use musical Instruments in Worship. Actually, Scripture encourages musical instraments in Worship. Read Psalms. Are you a Reformed Presbyterian by chance? You sound like one of them.
 
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