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The are a lot of people protesting in the "No Kings" Rallies. This might negate the argument that Trump has a mandate from the american people to do all the things he is doing.

Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-no-kings-protesters-at-massive-nyc-rally-reveal-motivation-for-taking-to-the-streets-disgusting

NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/no-kings-protests-trump-administration-live-updates-rcna238009

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/18/anti-trump-no-kings-protests-updates

and many more. Perhaps Trump needs to listen to all americans, not just MAGA people.

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So do you want open borders ?

More fentanyl ?

More dead Israelis ?

Higher gasoline prices ?

Open season on Christian speakers ?

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There you go again. Accusing me of things I have not ever supported. I do not support most of the Democrat issues. I merely pointed out that a large number of people are protesting. That is a fact.

If you would like to hear the real issues that concern me, here are a few:
1. I do not think the government should be sending troops into multiple Us cities. Especially during a government shutdown. I am guessing the States will get the bill for their National Guards.
2. The ICE roundup is something on a huge scale. ICE is burning a lot of money during this shutdown. I do not believe that All of these ICE agents are essential.

Meanwhile Kristi Noem has purchased 2 new luxury jets for ICE. Air Traffic Controller are working but not getting paid.
3. Trump is spending a lot of money saber rattling for Venezuela. I think Trump needs to end the government shutdown before blowing money on B52 flight close to Venezuela.

I have stated numerous times before this that my number one issue is balancing the budget. That is where the President's focus needs to be.

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Bull**** I simply asked you some questions. You did not answer a single one. As usual.

Ridiculous to expect a balanced budget is a pipe dream and will always remain so. Because it is political suicide to do whats needed, and you should understand that by now.

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Your questions were quite pointed. Meaning you asked them to make a point. They were also rhetorical. Of course i support some cations on the issues in questions, It is the scale annd expense of operation that I question.

I do support a balanced budget and maybe it is a pipe dream, but I believe a financial crisis looms on the horizon if we do not balance the budget soon. That is not a pipe dream.

I do not think voters approved the scale of Trumps actions(Sending troop to US cities, Huge ICE actions, War with Venezuela) at the scale in which it is being done. I think this is true especially with a government shutdown in play

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Totally disagree


The people want these illegals out of our country. Too many were criminals in their host countries.

You choose to forget the US brings in over one million immigrants legally every year. The most in the world.

The people want our cities to be safe again. Too many killings every day. Collectively it is a travesty.

Dems are single handedly shutting down the government to bail out Obamacare and provide taxpayer paid 'free' medical care for illegals .

Meanwhile putting our country at risk.

**** them.

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You can **** them if you want. Trump said in an interview earlier that government shutdowns are always the responsibility of the president abd poor leadership.

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Dems have the votes to block the resumption of the government and they have done so nine straight times.

But somehow playing your same old routine makes you feel better about yourself somehow.

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Yeah Obama has a filibuster proof senate. Trump does not.

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Weird how some individuals pretend not to notice the difference.

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Yes. I think shutdowns are caused by poor leadership. Of course he said it referring to Obama. You can find the interview easily. Its on several websites.

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Weird, though, that you never agreed with Trump during Biden's shutdowns.

Wangchung said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The are a lot of people protesting in the "No Kings" Rallies. This might negate the argument that Trump has a mandate from the american people to do all the things he is doing.

Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-no-kings-protesters-at-massive-nyc-rally-reveal-motivation-for-taking-to-the-streets-disgusting

NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/no-kings-protests-trump-administration-live-updates-rcna238009

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/18/anti-trump-no-kings-protests-updates

and many more. Perhaps Trump needs to listen to all americans, not just MAGA people.

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So do you want open borders ?

More fentanyl ?

More dead Israelis ?

Higher gasoline prices ?

Open season on Christian speakers ?

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There you go again. Accusing me of things I have not ever supported. I do not support most of the Democrat issues. I merely pointed out that a large number of people are protesting. That is a fact.

If you would like to hear the real issues that concern me, here are a few:
1. I do not think the government should be sending troops into multiple Us cities. Especially during a government shutdown. I am guessing the States will get the bill for their National Guards.
2. The ICE roundup is something on a huge scale. ICE is burning a lot of money during this shutdown. I do not believe that All of these ICE agents are essential.

Meanwhile Kristi Noem has purchased 2 new luxury jets for ICE. Air Traffic Controller are working but not getting paid.
3. Trump is spending a lot of money saber rattling for Venezuela. I think Trump needs to end the government shutdown before blowing money on B52 flight close to Venezuela.

I have stated numerous times before this that my number one issue is balancing the budget. That is where the President's focus needs to be.

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Bull**** I simply asked you some questions. You did not answer a single one. As usual.

Ridiculous to expect a balanced budget is a pipe dream and will always remain so. Because it is political suicide to do whats needed, and you should understand that by now.

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Your questions were quite pointed. Meaning you asked them to make a point. They were also rhetorical. Of course i support some cations on the issues in questions, It is the scale annd expense of operation that I question.

I do support a balanced budget and maybe it is a pipe dream, but I believe a financial crisis looms on the horizon if we do not balance the budget soon. That is not a pipe dream.

I do not think voters approved the scale of Trumps actions(Sending troop to US cities, Huge ICE actions, War with Venezuela) at the scale in which it is being done. I think this is true especially with a government shutdown in play

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Totally disagree


The people want these illegals out of our country. Too many were criminals in their host countries.

You choose to forget the US brings in over one million immigrants legally every year. The most in the world.

The people want our cities to be safe again. Too many killings every day. Collectively it is a travesty.

Dems are single handedly shutting down the government to bail out Obamacare and provide taxpayer paid 'free' medical care for illegals .

Meanwhile putting our country at risk.

**** them.

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Originally the ICE action was to remove "the worst of the worst". I agreed with that. However that action morphed into an effort to remove all illegal immigrants. I don't believe people voted for action this size. I also do not believe that you speak for the general US population as implied in your post.

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Absolutely incorrect again. We want all illegals gone. All of them. We started looking for the worst of the worst and it became apparent they were within groups of non violent illegals. Easier to get them all. You're definitely in the vast minority on this topic.

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Do you have a statistic showing I am in the vast minority? or are you just pulling it out of the air? Do you have a cost of this effort in estimated dollars? I am not sure I believe it is possible to remove all illegal immigrants from this country. I am not against it but I just do not think it is economically feasible. I realize that shutting the border and deporting illegals will set a positive standard, but deporting people at such a large scale will approach a point of diminishing returns.

Guy Noir said:

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Wangchung said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The are a lot of people protesting in the "No Kings" Rallies. This might negate the argument that Trump has a mandate from the american people to do all the things he is doing.

Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-no-kings-protesters-at-massive-nyc-rally-reveal-motivation-for-taking-to-the-streets-disgusting

NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/no-kings-protests-trump-administration-live-updates-rcna238009

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/18/anti-trump-no-kings-protests-updates

and many more. Perhaps Trump needs to listen to all americans, not just MAGA people.

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So do you want open borders ?

More fentanyl ?

More dead Israelis ?

Higher gasoline prices ?

Open season on Christian speakers ?

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There you go again. Accusing me of things I have not ever supported. I do not support most of the Democrat issues. I merely pointed out that a large number of people are protesting. That is a fact.

If you would like to hear the real issues that concern me, here are a few:
1. I do not think the government should be sending troops into multiple Us cities. Especially during a government shutdown. I am guessing the States will get the bill for their National Guards.
2. The ICE roundup is something on a huge scale. ICE is burning a lot of money during this shutdown. I do not believe that All of these ICE agents are essential.

Meanwhile Kristi Noem has purchased 2 new luxury jets for ICE. Air Traffic Controller are working but not getting paid.
3. Trump is spending a lot of money saber rattling for Venezuela. I think Trump needs to end the government shutdown before blowing money on B52 flight close to Venezuela.

I have stated numerous times before this that my number one issue is balancing the budget. That is where the President's focus needs to be.

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Bull**** I simply asked you some questions. You did not answer a single one. As usual.

Ridiculous to expect a balanced budget is a pipe dream and will always remain so. Because it is political suicide to do whats needed, and you should understand that by now.

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Your questions were quite pointed. Meaning you asked them to make a point. They were also rhetorical. Of course i support some cations on the issues in questions, It is the scale annd expense of operation that I question.

I do support a balanced budget and maybe it is a pipe dream, but I believe a financial crisis looms on the horizon if we do not balance the budget soon. That is not a pipe dream.

I do not think voters approved the scale of Trumps actions(Sending troop to US cities, Huge ICE actions, War with Venezuela) at the scale in which it is being done. I think this is true especially with a government shutdown in play

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Totally disagree


The people want these illegals out of our country. Too many were criminals in their host countries.

You choose to forget the US brings in over one million immigrants legally every year. The most in the world.

The people want our cities to be safe again. Too many killings every day. Collectively it is a travesty.

Dems are single handedly shutting down the government to bail out Obamacare and provide taxpayer paid 'free' medical care for illegals .

Meanwhile putting our country at risk.

**** them.

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Originally the ICE action was to remove "the worst of the worst". I agreed with that. However that action morphed into an effort to remove all illegal immigrants. I don't believe people voted for action this size. I also do not believe that you speak for the general US population as implied in your post.

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Absolutely incorrect again. We want all illegals gone. All of them. We started looking for the worst of the worst and it became apparent they were within groups of non violent illegals. Easier to get them all. You're definitely in the vast minority on this topic.

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Do you have a statistic showing I am in the vast minority? or are you just pulling it out of the air? Do you have a cost of this effort in estimated dollars? I am not sure I believe it is possible to remove all illegal immigrants from this country. I am not against it but I just do not think it is economically feasible. I realize that shutting the border and deporting illegals will set a positive standard, but deporting people at such a large scale will approach a point of diminishing returns.

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Diminishing returns ?

Like the billions of dollars wasted providing 'free' medical care, food , shelter and transportation for the millions of illegals your party invited into this country.

Against all existing federal immigration laws ?

Sorry dude, your soft sell rings very hollow.

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Yes diminishing returns. As more and more people get deported the cost of finding more illegals to deport will go up. I would favor deporting illegals al a smaller scale, and not using National Guard Troops.

As far as Illegals using welfare and medical resources that is a different issue. I do agree with reducing ths expense in our country.

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Ridiculous


Your party invited millions of illegals into our country.

Will take 4-8 years before you need to worry about the numbers getting so low as to concern yourself with diminishing returns.


You guys caused this.


Own it.

I agree that Biden caused this. I agree with Trump shutting down the border. I am not a Democrat and I did not support the policies that caused this.

Categorizing me as a democrat is wrong and does not help with fixing the problem.

Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

Guy Noir said:

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I agree that Biden caused this. I agree with Trump shutting down the border. I am not a Democrat and I did not support the policies that caused this.

Categorizing me as a democrat is wrong and does not help with fixing the problem.

Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Nothing like the first American Civil War agitated a significant part of the US population.

Also, how are the alleged 7 million participants in No Imagined Kings Day a significant part of the current US population (somewhere between 324 and 348 million)?

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I do not get the point you are making. I think we have different interpetations of the word significant.

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I think we have different world views entirely.

Your approach is what destroyed England.

Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The are a lot of people protesting in the "No Kings" Rallies. This might negate the argument that Trump has a mandate from the american people to do all the things he is doing.

Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-no-kings-protesters-at-massive-nyc-rally-reveal-motivation-for-taking-to-the-streets-disgusting

NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/no-kings-protests-trump-administration-live-updates-rcna238009

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/18/anti-trump-no-kings-protests-updates

and many more. Perhaps Trump needs to listen to all americans, not just MAGA people.

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So do you want open borders ?

More fentanyl ?

More dead Israelis ?

Higher gasoline prices ?

Open season on Christian speakers ?

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There you go again. Accusing me of things I have not ever supported. I do not support most of the Democrat issues. I merely pointed out that a large number of people are protesting. That is a fact.

If you would like to hear the real issues that concern me, here are a few:
1. I do not think the government should be sending troops into multiple Us cities. Especially during a government shutdown. I am guessing the States will get the bill for their National Guards.
2. The ICE roundup is something on a huge scale. ICE is burning a lot of money during this shutdown. I do not believe that All of these ICE agents are essential.

Meanwhile Kristi Noem has purchased 2 new luxury jets for ICE. Air Traffic Controller are working but not getting paid.
3. Trump is spending a lot of money saber rattling for Venezuela. I think Trump needs to end the government shutdown before blowing money on B52 flight close to Venezuela.

I have stated numerous times before this that my number one issue is balancing the budget. That is where the President's focus needs to be.

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Bull**** I simply asked you some questions. You did not answer a single one. As usual.

Ridiculous to expect a balanced budget is a pipe dream and will always remain so. Because it is political suicide to do whats needed, and you should understand that by now.

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Your questions were quite pointed. Meaning you asked them to make a point. They were also rhetorical. Of course i support some cations on the issues in questions, It is the scale annd expense of operation that I question.

I do support a balanced budget and maybe it is a pipe dream, but I believe a financial crisis looms on the horizon if we do not balance the budget soon. That is not a pipe dream.

I do not think voters approved the scale of Trumps actions(Sending troop to US cities, Huge ICE actions, War with Venezuela) at the scale in which it is being done. I think this is true especially with a government shutdown in play

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Totally disagree


The people want these illegals out of our country. Too many were criminals in their host countries.

You choose to forget the US brings in over one million immigrants legally every year. The most in the world.

The people want our cities to be safe again. Too many killings every day. Collectively it is a travesty.

Dems are single handedly shutting down the government to bail out Obamacare and provide taxpayer paid 'free' medical care for illegals .

Meanwhile putting our country at risk.

**** them.

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Originally the ICE action was to remove "the worst of the worst". I agreed with that. However that action morphed into an effort to remove all illegal immigrants. I don't believe people voted for action this size. I also do not believe that you speak for the general US population as implied in your post.

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even polling from left leaning firms (those who have missed the last several elections by 4 or more points to the left) show that a majority of voters support deportation of all illegals.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally

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I agree that Biden caused this. I agree with Trump shutting down the border. I am not a Democrat and I did not support the policies that caused this.

Categorizing me as a democrat is wrong and does not help with fixing the problem.

Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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I doubt any specific issue catalyzed this silly Soros-funded clown show. Unlike the Tea Party, the Democrats don't have any issues to support or oppose it is all about hating President Trump.

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Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Why would anyone be surprised that a small percentage of those who voted Democrat, who wanted illegal immigration in order to increase their voter base, are agitated over removing those illegal immigrants? Is there anything new here?

And when did merely enforcing the law mean that you're being a "King"? This fully funded and synthetic narrative makes no sense at all to rational people.

Sums up the Left in general well:

In honor of No Kings today, here is my favorite interview of all time. 10 seconds of pure glory. pic.twitter.com/jypj2HfWsI

— Jeff Hunt (@jeffhunt) October 18, 2025

In case you were wondering who is behind the No Kings March…it’s the Communist Party and the Marxist Movement. They don’t even hide it… pic.twitter.com/g112pnnS6K

— Rep. Nicole Malliotakis Office (@RepNicole) October 18, 2025

There are a lot of hate-filled boomers out there using TDS to try and fill the G-d-sized holes in their hearts.

Step one: make the conscious choice to allow this to happen unabated.

BREAKING: I am absolutely stunned by what I’m witnessing right now. We are on a boat in the Rio Grande near the Del Rio international bridge and we are watching as masses of hundreds of migrants walk across the river from Mexico and stream into the US illegally. @FoxNews pic.twitter.com/xXE4pDkpIe

— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) September 18, 2021

Step two: if the next guy starts sending any of them back, begin histrionics about racism and kings.

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Guy Noir said:

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Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Why would anyone be surprised that a small percentage of those who voted Democrat, who wanted illegal immigration in order to increase their voter base, are agitated over removing those illegal immigrants? Is there anything new here?

And when did merely enforcing the law mean that you're being a "King"? This fully funded and synthetic narrative makes no sense at all to rational people.

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Sending in National Guard soldiers with ICE is a lot stronger action than "merely enforcing the law".

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if Democrats would quit attacking ICE, we wouldn't need the National Guard.

Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Why would anyone be surprised that a small percentage of those who voted Democrat, who wanted illegal immigration in order to increase their voter base, are agitated over removing those illegal immigrants? Is there anything new here?

And when did merely enforcing the law mean that you're being a "King"? This fully funded and synthetic narrative makes no sense at all to rational people.

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Sending in National Guard soldiers with ICE is a lot stronger action than "merely enforcing the law".

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But this "stronger action" is required in order to enforce the law. It's made a requirement due to the lawless and violent tendencies of far left democrats. When you have ICE agents being shot at, threatened with bombs, and openly being threatened with gun violence, the level of protection they need in order to carry out their duties far exceeds what cities can (and are willing to) provide. This is in accord with U.S. Code Title 10, section 12406. Even a California appeals court agreed. Nothing "monarchal" about any of this.

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Guy Noir said:

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Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Why would anyone be surprised that a small percentage of those who voted Democrat, who wanted illegal immigration in order to increase their voter base, are agitated over removing those illegal immigrants? Is there anything new here?

And when did merely enforcing the law mean that you're being a "King"? This fully funded and synthetic narrative makes no sense at all to rational people.

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Sending in National Guard soldiers with ICE is a lot stronger action than "merely enforcing the law".

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Not when the Portland police are ordered to not respond.

The oligarch media always frames as "Republican' s pounce."

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Guy Noir said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Surely you can see that the large scale deportation effort has agitated a significant part of the US population as reflected in the "No Kings" protests.

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Why would anyone be surprised that a small percentage of those who voted Democrat, who wanted illegal immigration in order to increase their voter base, are agitated over removing those illegal immigrants? Is there anything new here?

And when did merely enforcing the law mean that you're being a "King"? This fully funded and synthetic narrative makes no sense at all to rational people.

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Sending in National Guard soldiers with ICE is a lot stronger action than "merely enforcing the law".

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Not when the Portland police are ordered to not respond.

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Bingo. Showing up with NG to reduce crime shows blue constituencies that the problem is not systemic oppression but rather that Democrat prosecutors are simply not doing their job.

To the extent that such action forces organized crime (like Antifa) to attack federal officers.....well, that is a side benefit. it will justify wrapping up Antifa with federal assets.

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In case you were wondering who is behind the No Kings March…it’s the Communist Party and the Marxist Movement. They don’t even hide it… pic.twitter.com/g112pnnS6K

— Rep. Nicole Malliotakis Office (@RepNicole) October 18, 2025

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Utter hogwash. Mainstream Dems are protesting, and obviously the Socialists are going to tag along. This braindead rhetoric about "who is behind all the hate for Trump" is offensive. You can do better.

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Funny how one man's "publicly funding all the demonstrations" can be another man's "tagging along." Guess you'll believe anything other than the truth when you REALLY want astroturfing to be seen as grassroots.

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In case you were wondering who is behind the No Kings March…it’s the Communist Party and the Marxist Movement. They don’t even hide it… pic.twitter.com/g112pnnS6K

— Rep. Nicole Malliotakis Office (@RepNicole) October 18, 2025

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Utter hogwash. Mainstream Dems are protesting, and obviously the Socialists are going to tag along. This braindead rhetoric about "who is behind all the hate for Trump" is offensive. You can do better.

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Funny how one man's "publicly funding all the demonstrations" can be another man's "tagging along." Guess you'll believe anything other than the truth when you REALLY want astroturfing to be seen as grassroots.

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Protesting Trump is not only grassroots, it is pivotal to the Democrat identity.

People dont need funding to do it, they would probably pay to do it. An untapped revenue stream for the DNC imo.

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Well until these protests stop being organized and funded by these organizations we'll never know will we?