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TexasScientist said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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TexasScientist said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Guy Noir said:

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The are a lot of people protesting in the "No Kings" Rallies. This might negate the argument that Trump has a mandate from the american people to do all the things he is doing.

Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-no-kings-protesters-at-massive-nyc-rally-reveal-motivation-for-taking-to-the-streets-disgusting

NBC:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/no-kings-protests-trump-administration-live-updates-rcna238009

The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/oct/18/anti-trump-no-kings-protests-updates

and many more. Perhaps Trump needs to listen to all americans, not just MAGA people.

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Once again the left rallies around that which makes them unpalatable to the majority of Americans. Illegal immigrants, LGBTQ, abortion, and how they "feel". Of all the things to go at Trump on, here they are wallowing in their same stool. It is them that continue not to listen.

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First, your factual premise is incorrect.

The majority of Americans support legal abortion.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/05/13/broad-public-support-for-legal-abortion-persists-2-years-after-dobbs/

A majority of Americans believe that the the manner in whihc the administration is conducting its immigration policy is unfair.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/08/us/trump-deportation-illegal-immigrants-voters-poll.html

A majority of Americans believe in at least the "L" rights and the "G" rights. A significant minority believes in the "T" rights.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

Second, your argument misses the point of the rallies. The "No Kings" argument is about the use of the imperial presidency to effect legal, cultural, and economic change-the most dangerous of which is targeting people for their beliefs. The idea that being a "leftist" disqualifes one from being a professor, teacher, or government employee should be terrifying, but it is now celebrated.

When American citizens are detained because they look illegal; when the Department of Jusitce openly makes political retribution a priority through BS cases; when we elevate someone above the law through an immunity doctrine made out of whole cloth; when we convert our publicly funded education system to a religious training ground; when we use the military against our own people; when we use the military to blow small boats out of the water with no war-time declaration and without making any of the evidence supporting the decision public; when we use the federal budget as a bludgeon against those who we disagree with; when the president's family and friends treat the White House as the largest cash machine of all time; when we disregard facts abiut science and elections to please the whims of one man, we see a monarchy.

Third, some of that is admittedly hypocritical. Trump is the culmination of the imperial presidency, not the instigator. But he fully reveals its evils and people are right to speak out about it.

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This is what I mean by wallowing in your own stool. The left's key political litmus tests have become how far the boundaries of abortion, homosexuality, and transsexualism can be pushed both culturally and through policy. Yet none of these are illegal as individual rights. So the opinion polling is a meaningless data point. Throw in the championing of illegal immigration and that's where you are as a core platform message.

You've lost all perspective. The cultural and policy pendulum already swung so far your way that to call the current moment a "religious training ground" is delusional. You're just angry that people are finally questioning the necessity of your extreme positions.

Then you bring up "political retribution," "targeting people for their beliefs," "BS cases," and "questionable immunity approaches"? Are you really going there after the past couple of decades of weaponized institutions, cancel mobs, and selective justice? The reality is you don't oppose kings, you just want your king back in power. You lost that, and now you're being confronted with the ideological contradictions of your own position. Welcome to "it's no fun since the rabbit's got the gun".

The irony is that I've long opposed the consolidation of executive authority, including much of what Trump has done and continues to do with it, even when I've agreed with his objectives. I've called it out so often that I've been accused of having "TDS," of hating Trump, or even being a "globalist liberal" lol. The truth is, I never thought I'd find myself arguing with "conservatives" over principles that once defined our side like limiting government power and defending individual and economic freedom. The principles that separated us from the left's long-standing habit of using government power to impose ideology on a free society through fear and division.

To see the left suddenly feign fear of authority simply because the machinery of societal autocracy is no longer working exclusively in their favor is the definition of hypocrisy. But go ahead, keep wallowing in the same agendas that make you look as unhinged as you think the hardcore MAGAs are.

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America is made up of a broad spectrum of ideas, needs, and beliefs - founded upon democratic ideals. A significant number of Americans voting for Trump that gave him a majority this time were not cult followers who bought into his confidence schemes, but were voters who felt the alternative was likely worse. They didn't vote for a president who would rule by presidential fiat, ignore or work around established checks and balances, and who would set about laying the ground work for an autocracy, much like Putin or Orban did in their respective countries.

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Why are we currently under a government shut down?

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Senate unwillingness to compromise, presidential deference, and/or unwillingness of the Senate to eliminate the cloture rule, or override the presiding officer with a majority vote.

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How does that happen to a king? Can't he just decree things?

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We're in the process of finding out, are we not?

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No because the US hasn't had a king in 249 years.

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Like I said ...

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want anyone countermanding elected officials do we!

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want unelected bureaucrats countermanding elected officials do we!

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FIFYDA

Wangchung said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want unelected bureaucrats countermanding elected officials do we!

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FIFYDA

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So you're opposed to an independent judiciary as a third branch of government as a check on the other two branches - i.e. you're an autocrat.

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want anyone countermanding elected officials do we!

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Sweetheart ... as exhausting as it is explaining English to you, I will give it a try. Someday I will understand why the average radical leftist is a moron.

I was not making a value judgment on federal district judges. I was pointing out the stupidity of people like you that claim to want "No Kings" and then celebrate when a single, unelected person undermines democracy - if you had two brain cells to rub together you would connect the dots and realize you're actually demanding a king. But you're likely not that clever.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want anyone countermanding elected officials do we!

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Sweetheart ... as exhausting as it is explaining English to you, I will give it a try. Someday I will understand why the average radical leftist is a moron.

I was not making a value judgment on federal district judges. I was pointing out the stupidity of people like you that claim to want "No Kings" and then celebrate when a single, unelected person undermines democracy - if you had two brain cells to rub together you would connect the dots and realize you're actually demanding a king. But you're likely not that clever.

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Tell me without telling me you haven't read the Constitution.

Sam Lowry said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Does anything demonstrate the stupidity of the LWMJ and TDSers that they can:
1. Claim to oppose Kings
2. Celebrate an unelected judge contradicting electing officials

We cannot have productive discussions with mental rhegards.

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We don't want anyone countermanding elected officials do we!

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Sweetheart ... as exhausting as it is explaining English to you, I will give it a try. Someday I will understand why the average radical leftist is a moron.

I was not making a value judgment on federal district judges. I was pointing out the stupidity of people like you that claim to want "No Kings" and then celebrate when a single, unelected person undermines democracy - if you had two brain cells to rub together you would connect the dots and realize you're actually demanding a king. But you're likely not that clever.

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Tell me without telling me you haven't read the Constitution.

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Look in the mirror, read the constitution, & try using logic.

Or a dictatorship. Either way, the mayor cannot force businesses to remain open when they are losing money, especially when it's because the city government refuses to punish criminals.

Fascists don't need logic, consistency, principles, or any of the usual things one would have. They only have TDS and that's all they need. And it's why almost everything they say are stupid lies. They are also hypocrites of the highest order with double standards everywhere.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Can anyone explain why:
1. Idiots that protest "No Kings" celebrate unelected judges over-ruling democratic institutions ?
2. Queers for Palestine.

Is there a leftist who doesn't eat paint chips?

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It's not a left or right issue. Clearly you don't understand the Constitution, or the purpose of three co-equal branches of government, or the purposes and reasons for having an appointed judiciary. This system is what has made this country the great power and unique bastion of freedom in the world. Don't be so eager to trash it for something that appears more convenient at the moment. There is nothing out there that is any better, including the Russian and Hungarian, Arabic forms of government that Trumpets seem to admire.

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Fascists don't need logic, consistency, principles, or any of the usual things one would have. They only have TDS and that's all they need. And it's why almost everything they say are stupid lies. They are also hypocrites of the highest order with double standards everywhere.

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You just concisely described the Trump regime. Bravo!

Oldbear83 said:

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Irony: Sam lecturing the room about the US Constitution

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I'd wager he's spent more time professionally and educationally steeped in the Constitution than anyone posting in this thread. Just because you don't understand the Constitution, or find it inconvenient to your desires is a mistake in your judgement, and is no reason to trash it.

TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Can anyone explain why:
1. Idiots that protest "No Kings" celebrate unelected judges over-ruling democratic institutions ?
2. Queers for Palestine.

Is there a leftist who doesn't eat paint chips?

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It's not a left or right issue. Clearly you don't understand the Constitution, or the purpose of three co-equal branches of government, or the purposes and reasons for having an appointed judiciary. This system is what has made this country the great power and unique bastion of freedom in the world. Don't be so eager to trash it for something that appears more convenient at the moment. There is nothing out there that is any better, including the Russian and Hungarian, Arabic forms of government that Trumpets seem to admire.

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I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

The people who claim they want "NO KINGS" celebrate kings if the king rules how they want. The problem continues to be when the emotional histrionics of the left collide with reason and logic, confusion occurs. You either have no idea what is a king or you're fine with "kings" as long as he rules in the way you want. It's not complicated.

The really issue is "No Kings" is more Orwellian stupidity from radical leftists.

ScottS said:

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The mayor of Seattle says no grocery stores can close no matter what. Sounds like something delivered from a monarchy.

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Mayor of Seattle is a legend in the making.

Going to be far more 'creative' than the new mayor of NYC.

Oldbear83 said:

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Ah, TexasFakeScientist pops in late to the talk, realizes he has nothing to add, and so deflects to false and weak attempts at wit.

Sad in many ways, but TFS is consistent!

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^^^^ Blind cultic adoration of Trump on full display.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Can anyone explain why:
1. Idiots that protest "No Kings" celebrate unelected judges over-ruling democratic institutions ?
2. Queers for Palestine.

Is there a leftist who doesn't eat paint chips?

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It's not a left or right issue. Clearly you don't understand the Constitution, or the purpose of three co-equal branches of government, or the purposes and reasons for having an appointed judiciary. This system is what has made this country the great power and unique bastion of freedom in the world. Don't be so eager to trash it for something that appears more convenient at the moment. There is nothing out there that is any better, including the Russian and Hungarian, Arabic forms of government that Trumpets seem to admire.

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I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

The people who claim they want "NO KINGS" celebrate kings if the king rules how they want. The problem continues to be when the emotional histrionics of the left collide with reason and logic, confusion occurs. You either have no idea what is a king or you're fine with "kings" as long as he rules in the way you want. It's not complicated.

The really issue is "No Kings" is more Orwellian stupidity from radical leftists.

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Oh I understand. What you're advocating for is unfettered authority for Trump. You don't like or understand the need for judicial review as a check on power, and to serve as constitutional guardrails. Trump unrestrained is the embodiment of Orwellian dystopia. There is very little rhyme, reason, or logic to anything Trump does. No other president, outside of wartime, has asserted extra constitutional authority more than Trump.

TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Ah, TexasFakeScientist pops in late to the talk, realizes he has nothing to add, and so deflects to false and weak attempts at wit.

Sad in many ways, but TFS is consistent!

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^^^^ Blind cultic adoration of Trump on full display.

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Since my post was an observation of TFS' obsessive behavior and made no reference to the President, your claim must mean you see yourself linked with him for some emotional reason.

Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Ah, TexasFakeScientist pops in late to the talk, realizes he has nothing to add, and so deflects to false and weak attempts at wit.

Sad in many ways, but TFS is consistent!

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^^^^ Blind cultic adoration of Trump on full display.

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Since my post was an observation of TFS' obsessive behavior and made no reference to the President, your claim must mean you see yourself linked with him for some emotional reason.

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Sorry about that Dotage Bear. My post was a cumulative observation of your posts, and I assumed you would get that.

TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Ah, TexasFakeScientist pops in late to the talk, realizes he has nothing to add, and so deflects to false and weak attempts at wit.

Sad in many ways, but TFS is consistent!

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^^^^ Blind cultic adoration of Trump on full display.

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Since my post was an observation of TFS' obsessive behavior and made no reference to the President, your claim must mean you see yourself linked with him for some emotional reason.

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Sorry about that Dotage Old Bear. My post was a cumulative observationbiased perversion of your posts, and I assumed you would get tolerate that.

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You have not learned wisdom, rash one.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Can anyone explain why:
1. Idiots that protest "No Kings" celebrate unelected judges over-ruling democratic institutions ?
2. Queers for Palestine.

Is there a leftist who doesn't eat paint chips?

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It's not a left or right issue. Clearly you don't understand the Constitution, or the purpose of three co-equal branches of government, or the purposes and reasons for having an appointed judiciary. This system is what has made this country the great power and unique bastion of freedom in the world. Don't be so eager to trash it for something that appears more convenient at the moment. There is nothing out there that is any better, including the Russian and Hungarian, Arabic forms of government that Trumpets seem to admire.

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I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.

The people who claim they want "NO KINGS" celebrate kings if the king rules how they want. The problem continues to be when the emotional histrionics of the left collide with reason and logic, confusion occurs. You either have no idea what is a king or you're fine with "kings" as long as he rules in the way you want. It's not complicated.

The really issue is "No Kings" is more Orwellian stupidity from radical leftists.

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Oh I understand. What you're advocating for is unfettered authority for Trump. You don't like or understand the need for judicial review as a check on power, and to serve as constitutional guardrails. Trump unrestrained is the embodiment of Orwellian dystopia. There is very little rhyme, reason, or logic to anything Trump does. No other president, outside of wartime, has asserted extra constitutional authority more than Trump.

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No you idiot. I am explaining the irony of someone claiming "No Kings" celebrating when an unelected, lifetime-appointed single person unilaterally makes laws for the entire nation. That literally is the definition of a king. It is almost as ironic as your screen name. As I noted, you LWNJs love Kings you just hate Trump - but the "No Kings" gets the overweight, geriatric white womenz more worked up.

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Ah, TexasFakeScientist pops in late to the talk, realizes he has nothing to add, and so deflects to false and weak attempts at wit.

Sad in many ways, but TFS is consistent!

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^^^^ Blind cultic adoration of Trump on full display.

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Since my post was an observation of TFS' obsessive behavior and made no reference to the President, your claim must mean you see yourself linked with him for some emotional reason.

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Sorry about that Dotage Old Bear. My post was a cumulative observationbiased perversion of your posts, and I assumed you would get tolerate that.

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You have not learned wisdom, rash one.

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^^^ Dotage on full display. Careful, someone might think you're in your second childhood.

Wisdom you reject, along with its worth and benefits.

Your jibes may amuse you now, but you will be sorry for it sooner than you imagine.

Oldbear83 said:

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Wisdom you reject, along with its worth and benefits.

Your jibes may amuse you now, but you will be sorry for it sooner than you imagine.

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You're the one who specializes in jibes and jabs. I just toss them back because you seem to enjoy that.

It's still hilariously ironic when the same fat, geriatric white womenz who went to "No Kings" rallies celebrate a single, unelected person ruling them. We live in a truly stupid country.