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I'm guessing 47 knows about 3 black people

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and you would guess wrong. Re read what white privilege is and not what you think it is. Can you do that?

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You still have not defined what you think the privileges are or if you think people of other colors also have privileges based upon their skin color.

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. For instance I was born in Waco at Hillcrest. If a black child was born in Hillcrest it was probably in the segregated wing. When that black child started school it was in a segregated school and it stayed segregated until I graduated in 1966. We did not receive the same healthcare or education. When I rode the bus downtown blacks were in the back of the bus. I went to eat at El Chico's on the circle and it was whites only. I shopped at Gibson's and there were two water fountains Whie and Colored. At age 12 my family took a vacation to New Orleans and I saw billboards that said MLK was a communist Agitator. I went to an all white Methodist church and the black Methodists went to black churches. That mindset by whites is still predominantly alive in the south. I've over heard way too many conversations here 2017 that were blatantly racists. Whites felt they could talk that way because I was white. It was unguarded. Senator Tim Scott a black senator from SC has been pulled over 7 times and treated rudely by white officers. White privilege is real. But you will never see it until you empathize rather than argue. .

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To take your anecdotal experience and claim it represents everyone else's experience is a complete lie. You clearly have racist friends. If you hang around them then...

I do not have remotely the same experience as you and have not heard people talk like you in my presence in 30+ years. But, I don't claim that my personal experience represents everyone else's.

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My "anecdotal" experience in each and every case was reflective of a larger cultural context of racism and segregation. It was my experience in a racist and segregated society and for blacks it was devastating real.

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That's awesome for you. But by extending your personal experience to a "larger cultural context" you are stating that is also my experience.

That's a lie pastor.

In your response, you keep saying "was" which I can only assume reflects your personal experience in the 60's and 70's. I'm not arguing that experience, there are plenty of other people's anecdotes to support you.

I am absolutely stating that the atmosphere from the 60's and 70's does not exist today. Your description is not my experience and frankly you cannot state that your personal experience is more relevant than mine or anyone else's.

I'm just asking you to quit lying about my experience.

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are you white? If yes then of course it's not your cultural experience but it is the experience of African Americans every single damn day - not just 60s 70s.

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I'm not sure how you don't understand that you are stating an opinion as if it is a fact. And, your opinion is based on your own very limited experience in a very narrow part of the country.

I work with a variety of people; black, asian, indian, and on and on that don't experience what you describe. I run with black friends who own businesses or are in corporate management that don't experience what you describe.

You cannot take your little slice and assume that it is common for all others...especially since you apparently have very racist friends that you hang around. Frankly, that fact should make you step back and re-evaluate your own viewpoints.

If you are trying to correlate your personal anecdotal experience with what you see on the news or social media, you are just experiencing Confirmation Bias. You have a pre-conceived notion based on your anecdotal experience, see similar "experiences' on the news or social media, and select the ones that confirm your pre-existing bias.

You state that it is the experience of African-Americans every day but you should consider that this is the experience of African-Americans around you and your friends.

Look, I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist. It clearly does. I'm saying it is not all-encompassing like you are trying to describe by asserting that 'white privilege' exists. I would also add that racism exists for all races on all other races. To single modern whites out today as if there is something different about white people is asinine.

Edit: Let me walk something back. It is not so much racism that exists as it is cultural bias. I don't understand cultures that I have no experience with and my head/confirmation bias fills in the gaps with fears. That is common amongst all cultures and all people.

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Cultural bias plays a part, I am sure. However, I'm not sure how you can state that your minority friends have experienced no rascism. How do yo know? Really how could you know?
My Columbia masters and law graduate black BIL could argue that his wealth does nothing to erase his differening bones and pigment in a majority Western European descendant nation, but we can't help a natural survival instinct to stay with more Europeans as we feel safer amongst those that look like us. Look at our country and where we live and work. You can't stop "rascism" on a subconscious level, although we can all make independent judgments on individuals. So yes we can get along, I'm just saying it is genetically difficult for us.

Of course . as much of the "races" we discuss his n here are actually Caucasian(arabs, east Indians as long as you do not go too far south, and yes, Ethiopians), but I harp on and on about that aspect.

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Do your friends not talk to you? I've asked about it. Of course, I would hear about it.

Again, I'm not saying racism does not exist and I'm not saying my friends and co-workers have not experienced it. I am saying that:
1) is that it is not as pervasive as the pastor keeps noting
2) it may be as pervasive for him in his experience and I am saying that he cannot extend his experience to everyone
3) it goes both ways - as a white guy I have been discriminated against...and I don't mean in a general government sense but in a personal setting. But again, it's not pervasive
4) you people must live and work in some suck places. I feel bad for you that you are stuck in the 60's.

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It's foolish for a white guy to say "racism is not as pervasive as pastor thinks." You are not black and simply cannot experience it. But the issue is white privilege which for the 10th time is simply being white. Others whites treat whites differently than blacks.

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"Other whites treat whites differently than blacks."

I gotta say, that's a pretty sick statement and for most of us patently false. Pastor, I'm being honest here and mean this with love, you should find a counselor that can help you work through your issues.

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. And I think you need to have honest conversations with blacks. I'm ok. And telling me to see a counselor is gaslighting.

"Systemic racism isn't just about the individual. But white people are often resistant to have a conversation calling the system that benefits them into question. So they may instead shut the whole thing down and suggest that anyone who forces them into this *****ly position is a racist." Nick Wing

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I'm guessing 47 knows about 3 black people

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and you would guess wrong. Re read what white privilege is and not what you think it is. Can you do that?

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You still have not defined what you think the privileges are or if you think people of other colors also have privileges based upon their skin color.

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. For instance I was born in Waco at Hillcrest. If a black child was born in Hillcrest it was probably in the segregated wing. When that black child started school it was in a segregated school and it stayed segregated until I graduated in 1966. We did not receive the same healthcare or education. When I rode the bus downtown blacks were in the back of the bus. I went to eat at El Chico's on the circle and it was whites only. I shopped at Gibson's and there were two water fountains Whie and Colored. At age 12 my family took a vacation to New Orleans and I saw billboards that said MLK was a communist Agitator. I went to an all white Methodist church and the black Methodists went to black churches. That mindset by whites is still predominantly alive in the south. I've over heard way too many conversations here 2017 that were blatantly racists. Whites felt they could talk that way because I was white. It was unguarded. Senator Tim Scott a black senator from SC has been pulled over 7 times and treated rudely by white officers. White privilege is real. But you will never see it until you empathize rather than argue. .

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To take your anecdotal experience and claim it represents everyone else's experience is a complete lie. You clearly have racist friends. If you hang around them then...

I do not have remotely the same experience as you and have not heard people talk like you in my presence in 30+ years. But, I don't claim that my personal experience represents everyone else's.

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My "anecdotal" experience in each and every case was reflective of a larger cultural context of racism and segregation. It was my experience in a racist and segregated society and for blacks it was devastating real.

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That's awesome for you. But by extending your personal experience to a "larger cultural context" you are stating that is also my experience.

That's a lie pastor.

In your response, you keep saying "was" which I can only assume reflects your personal experience in the 60's and 70's. I'm not arguing that experience, there are plenty of other people's anecdotes to support you.

I am absolutely stating that the atmosphere from the 60's and 70's does not exist today. Your description is not my experience and frankly you cannot state that your personal experience is more relevant than mine or anyone else's.

I'm just asking you to quit lying about my experience.

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are you white? If yes then of course it's not your cultural experience but it is the experience of African Americans every single damn day - not just 60s 70s.

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I'm not sure how you don't understand that you are stating an opinion as if it is a fact. And, your opinion is based on your own very limited experience in a very narrow part of the country.

I work with a variety of people; black, asian, indian, and on and on that don't experience what you describe. I run with black friends who own businesses or are in corporate management that don't experience what you describe.

You cannot take your little slice and assume that it is common for all others...especially since you apparently have very racist friends that you hang around. Frankly, that fact should make you step back and re-evaluate your own viewpoints.

If you are trying to correlate your personal anecdotal experience with what you see on the news or social media, you are just experiencing Confirmation Bias. You have a pre-conceived notion based on your anecdotal experience, see similar "experiences' on the news or social media, and select the ones that confirm your pre-existing bias.

You state that it is the experience of African-Americans every day but you should consider that this is the experience of African-Americans around you and your friends.

Look, I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist. It clearly does. I'm saying it is not all-encompassing like you are trying to describe by asserting that 'white privilege' exists. I would also add that racism exists for all races on all other races. To single modern whites out today as if there is something different about white people is asinine.

Edit: Let me walk something back. It is not so much racism that exists as it is cultural bias. I don't understand cultures that I have no experience with and my head/confirmation bias fills in the gaps with fears. That is common amongst all cultures and all people.

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Cultural bias plays a part, I am sure. However, I'm not sure how you can state that your minority friends have experienced no rascism. How do yo know? Really how could you know?
My Columbia masters and law graduate black BIL could argue that his wealth does nothing to erase his differening bones and pigment in a majority Western European descendant nation, but we can't help a natural survival instinct to stay with more Europeans as we feel safer amongst those that look like us. Look at our country and where we live and work. You can't stop "rascism" on a subconscious level, although we can all make independent judgments on individuals. So yes we can get along, I'm just saying it is genetically difficult for us.

Of course . as much of the "races" we discuss his n here are actually Caucasian(arabs, east Indians as long as you do not go too far south, and yes, Ethiopians), but I harp on and on about that aspect.

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Do your friends not talk to you? I've asked about it. Of course, I would hear about it.

Again, I'm not saying racism does not exist and I'm not saying my friends and co-workers have not experienced it. I am saying that:
1) is that it is not as pervasive as the pastor keeps noting
2) it may be as pervasive for him in his experience and I am saying that he cannot extend his experience to everyone
3) it goes both ways - as a white guy I have been discriminated against...and I don't mean in a general government sense but in a personal setting. But again, it's not pervasive
4) you people must live and work in some suck places. I feel bad for you that you are stuck in the 60's.

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It's foolish for a white guy to say "racism is not as pervasive as pastor thinks." You are not black and simply cannot experience it. But the issue is white privilege which for the 10th time is simply being white. Others whites treat whites differently than blacks.

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"Other whites treat whites differently than blacks."

I gotta say, that's a pretty sick statement and for most of us patently false. Pastor, I'm being honest here and mean this with love, you should find a counselor that can help you work through your issues.

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. And I think you need to have honest conversations with blacks. I'm ok. And telling me to see a counselor is gaslighting.

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Do you believe the only privilege that counts in this world is white skin? Are these still mostly the same anecdotal privileges you experienced over 50 years ago?

Why is it any less foolish for you to say what the experience is for all blacks when you are not black?

Is it OK for blacks to treat other blacks differently than whites?

What makes his or my conversations with blacks less honest than yours?

You avoid a lot of honest responses to your comments.

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White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things."

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

Privileged White kids in Africa

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I'm guessing 47 knows about 3 black people

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and you would guess wrong. Re read what white privilege is and not what you think it is. Can you do that?

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You still have not defined what you think the privileges are or if you think people of other colors also have privileges based upon their skin color.

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. For instance I was born in Waco at Hillcrest. If a black child was born in Hillcrest it was probably in the segregated wing. When that black child started school it was in a segregated school and it stayed segregated until I graduated in 1966. We did not receive the same healthcare or education. When I rode the bus downtown blacks were in the back of the bus. I went to eat at El Chico's on the circle and it was whites only. I shopped at Gibson's and there were two water fountains Whie and Colored. At age 12 my family took a vacation to New Orleans and I saw billboards that said MLK was a communist Agitator. I went to an all white Methodist church and the black Methodists went to black churches. That mindset by whites is still predominantly alive in the south. I've over heard way too many conversations here 2017 that were blatantly racists. Whites felt they could talk that way because I was white. It was unguarded. Senator Tim Scott a black senator from SC has been pulled over 7 times and treated rudely by white officers. White privilege is real. But you will never see it until you empathize rather than argue. .

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To take your anecdotal experience and claim it represents everyone else's experience is a complete lie. You clearly have racist friends. If you hang around them then...

I do not have remotely the same experience as you and have not heard people talk like you in my presence in 30+ years. But, I don't claim that my personal experience represents everyone else's.

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My "anecdotal" experience in each and every case was reflective of a larger cultural context of racism and segregation. It was my experience in a racist and segregated society and for blacks it was devastating real.

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That's awesome for you. But by extending your personal experience to a "larger cultural context" you are stating that is also my experience.

That's a lie pastor.

In your response, you keep saying "was" which I can only assume reflects your personal experience in the 60's and 70's. I'm not arguing that experience, there are plenty of other people's anecdotes to support you.

I am absolutely stating that the atmosphere from the 60's and 70's does not exist today. Your description is not my experience and frankly you cannot state that your personal experience is more relevant than mine or anyone else's.

I'm just asking you to quit lying about my experience.

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are you white? If yes then of course it's not your cultural experience but it is the experience of African Americans every single damn day - not just 60s 70s.

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I'm not sure how you don't understand that you are stating an opinion as if it is a fact. And, your opinion is based on your own very limited experience in a very narrow part of the country.

I work with a variety of people; black, asian, indian, and on and on that don't experience what you describe. I run with black friends who own businesses or are in corporate management that don't experience what you describe.

You cannot take your little slice and assume that it is common for all others...especially since you apparently have very racist friends that you hang around. Frankly, that fact should make you step back and re-evaluate your own viewpoints.

If you are trying to correlate your personal anecdotal experience with what you see on the news or social media, you are just experiencing Confirmation Bias. You have a pre-conceived notion based on your anecdotal experience, see similar "experiences' on the news or social media, and select the ones that confirm your pre-existing bias.

You state that it is the experience of African-Americans every day but you should consider that this is the experience of African-Americans around you and your friends.

Look, I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist. It clearly does. I'm saying it is not all-encompassing like you are trying to describe by asserting that 'white privilege' exists. I would also add that racism exists for all races on all other races. To single modern whites out today as if there is something different about white people is asinine.

Edit: Let me walk something back. It is not so much racism that exists as it is cultural bias. I don't understand cultures that I have no experience with and my head/confirmation bias fills in the gaps with fears. That is common amongst all cultures and all people.

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Cultural bias plays a part, I am sure. However, I'm not sure how you can state that your minority friends have experienced no rascism. How do yo know? Really how could you know?
My Columbia masters and law graduate black BIL could argue that his wealth does nothing to erase his differening bones and pigment in a majority Western European descendant nation, but we can't help a natural survival instinct to stay with more Europeans as we feel safer amongst those that look like us. Look at our country and where we live and work. You can't stop "rascism" on a subconscious level, although we can all make independent judgments on individuals. So yes we can get along, I'm just saying it is genetically difficult for us.

Of course . as much of the "races" we discuss his n here are actually Caucasian(arabs, east Indians as long as you do not go too far south, and yes, Ethiopians), but I harp on and on about that aspect.

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Do your friends not talk to you? I've asked about it. Of course, I would hear about it.

Again, I'm not saying racism does not exist and I'm not saying my friends and co-workers have not experienced it. I am saying that:
1) is that it is not as pervasive as the pastor keeps noting
2) it may be as pervasive for him in his experience and I am saying that he cannot extend his experience to everyone
3) it goes both ways - as a white guy I have been discriminated against...and I don't mean in a general government sense but in a personal setting. But again, it's not pervasive
4) you people must live and work in some suck places. I feel bad for you that you are stuck in the 60's.

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It's foolish for a white guy to say "racism is not as pervasive as pastor thinks." You are not black and simply cannot experience it. But the issue is white privilege which for the 10th time is simply being white. Others whites treat whites differently than blacks.

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"Other whites treat whites differently than blacks."

I gotta say, that's a pretty sick statement and for most of us patently false. Pastor, I'm being honest here and mean this with love, you should find a counselor that can help you work through your issues.

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. And I think you need to have honest conversations with blacks. I'm ok. And telling me to see a counselor is gaslighting.

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Pastor, suggesting you see a counselor was not some debate strategy. It is genuine concern.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Only in your mind

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Unless they're not...

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Black folks are treated differently by people like you because of your heart.

For about 90% or so of white folks, if not more, because your age folk are dying off every day, they treat not just black folks, but everyone as their equals.

Why don't you tell my woefully impoverished 2nd cousin, who I hardly knew to be honest, how fair officers are to his type, since he was run down and killed by one about 25 years ago. And nothing, not on the news or in the paper. Like I said earlier in this or a similar thread, nobody cared. To this day nobody cares about that demographic.

White Privilege Defined

What is it that you want from white people?

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Another troll post by 47 that has no intent other than to further divide. So sad that some people are this pathetic.

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"Troll" "pathetic yet no reasoning as to why the premise is wrong. White skin is white privilege. Can you deny that truth?

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What if my dream is to be a cornerback in the NFL?

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excellent ?
You mean meritocracies like professional football are racist against nonblacks?

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Unless they're not...

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I guess it's like gender fluidity... we can all just decide these things despite biological facts.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Yes, they're still white, and still impoverished. So what?

another 1947 bs thread

It is worse than that. This man holds himself out as a religious authority. He purposely pulls people off the path to God and into his pit of darkness.

Maybe these threads are 47's self-flagellation...

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What is it that you want from white people?

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He wants you to finally realize that white people are terrible, and the reason for all of the world's problems. Nothing was solved in this 5 page thread and I feel dumber for having read it.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Yes, they're still white, and still impoverished. So what?

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Also, though not as poor as the truly impoverished growing up, every dime dad made was accounted for. As an individual, I went to a real restaurant one time growing up. When Chilton made it to state and won in 72-73 the team went to a real restaurant at some point in there, dad took us to the restaurant with the team as we all were celebrating. Half the team was black, and the team was noisy and having a good time, nobody bothered any of us. Treated the guys like anybody else. Matter of fact there was a picture of the owners smiling and shaking hands with the coaches and players. He probably respected what they had accomplished.

Impoverished white folk don't go to real restaurants, shoot I didn't, but that once, we made a trip to the DQ about once a year. All other meals were at the house.

With his snippy, uppy up way of presenting himself, I'm starting to think 47, though not realizing it, probably thought he was poor, but for his time, likely was a silver spoon kid. Sure he will vocipherously deny it, but proof is in the pudding.

Dude is clueless.

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What is it that you want from white people?

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To be willing to accept the fact that we inherently benefit from a system that has been founded on free labor and the degradation of minorities. To be willing to accept the fact that if you take a black family and a white family and stick them both into section 8 housing, the black family will have to work doubly hard to make it out of the same conditions. Maybe to acknowledge the fact that the reason why more white people are killed by police is because they're the vast majority of the population in this country while black people make up roughly 12%....aka the simplest of statistical analyses that ignorant racists can't seem to wrap their minds around or willfully mull over since it doesn't fit their racist narrative.

Brotha, it doesn't matter what anyone says they want from you. It's pretty clear you're enjoying the benefits of your privilege and have no intention of relinquishing them so at the end of the day...does it really matter? You know you're not going to give them anything. You're enjoying it too much for yourself to do that.

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Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.

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Why? White and black make no difference?

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Only to racists like you.

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Yes, they're still white, and still impoverished. So what?

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Also, though not as poor as the truly impoverished growing up, every dime dad made was accounted for. As an individual, I went to a real restaurant one time growing up. When Chilton made it to state and won in 72-73 the team went to a real restaurant at some point in there, dad took us to the restaurant with the team as we all were celebrating. Half the team was black, and the team was noisy and having a good time, nobody bothered any of us. Treated the guys like anybody else. Matter of fact there was a picture of the owners smiling and shaking hands with the coaches and players. He probably respected what they had accomplished.

Impoverished white folk don't go to real restaurants, shoot I didn't, but that once, we made a trip to the DQ about once a year. All other meals were at the house.

With his snippy, uppy up way of presenting himself, I'm starting to think 47, though not realizing it, probably thought he was poor, but for his time, likely was a silver spoon kid. Sure he will vocipherously deny it, but proof is in the pudding.

Dude is clueless.

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Your situational analysis makes you look far more clueless than he does. White privilege is an easy concept to understand. If you're an educated person with a hint of intelligence and rationality and you STILL don't get it, it's because you're choosing not to. You are satisfied with the status quo. And that's really the saddest thing about reading this thread...how can you look around and say "this is good enough"? It's heartbreaking.

Racists, whatever their color, never look at the content of their own character.

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Forest Bueller said:

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Also, though not as poor as the truly impoverished growing up, every dime dad made was accounted for. As an individual, I went to a real restaurant one time growing up. When Chilton made it to state and won in 72-73 the team went to a real restaurant at some point in there, dad took us to the restaurant with the team as we all were celebrating. Half the team was black, and the team was noisy and having a good time, nobody bothered any of us. Treated the guys like anybody else. Matter of fact there was a picture of the owners smiling and shaking hands with the coaches and players. He probably respected what they had accomplished.

Impoverished white folk don't go to real restaurants, shoot I didn't, but that once, we made a trip to the DQ about once a year. All other meals were at the house.

With his snippy, uppy up way of presenting himself, I'm starting to think 47, though not realizing it, probably thought he was poor, but for his time, likely was a silver spoon kid. Sure he will vocipherously deny it, but proof is in the pudding.

Dude is clueless.

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Your situational analysis makes you look far more clueless than he does. White privilege is an easy concept to understand. If you're an educated person with a hint of intelligence and rationality and you STILL don't get it, it's because you're choosing not to. You are satisfied with the status quo. And that's really the saddest thing about reading this thread...how can you look around and say "this is good enough"? It's heartbreaking.

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WARNING! SNOWFLAKE MELTDOWN!

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What is it that you want from white people?

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To be willing to accept the fact that we inherently benefit from a system that has been founded on free labor and the degradation of minorities. To be willing to accept the fact that if you take a black family and a white family and stick them both into section 8 housing, the black family will have to work doubly hard to make it out of the same conditions. Maybe to acknowledge the fact that the reason why more white people are killed by police is because they're the vast majority of the population in this country while black people make up roughly 12%....aka the simplest of statistical analyses that ignorant racists can't seem to wrap their minds around or willfully mull over since it doesn't fit their racist narrative.

Brotha, it doesn't matter what anyone says they want from you. It's pretty clear you're enjoying the benefits of your privilege and have no intention of relinquishing them so at the end of the day...does it really matter? You know you're not going to give them anything. You're enjoying it too much for yourself to do that.

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So what causes black men to abandon their families: causing black children to be 72% fatherless?

Also what causes 3% of the population (black males age 15-34) to commit 52% of all murders?

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JXL said:

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Waco1947 said:

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JXL said:

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Yes, they're still white, and still impoverished. So what?

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Also, though not as poor as the truly impoverished growing up, every dime dad made was accounted for. As an individual, I went to a real restaurant one time growing up. When Chilton made it to state and won in 72-73 the team went to a real restaurant at some point in there, dad took us to the restaurant with the team as we all were celebrating. Half the team was black, and the team was noisy and having a good time, nobody bothered any of us. Treated the guys like anybody else. Matter of fact there was a picture of the owners smiling and shaking hands with the coaches and players. He probably respected what they had accomplished.

Impoverished white folk don't go to real restaurants, shoot I didn't, but that once, we made a trip to the DQ about once a year. All other meals were at the house.

With his snippy, uppy up way of presenting himself, I'm starting to think 47, though not realizing it, probably thought he was poor, but for his time, likely was a silver spoon kid. Sure he will vocipherously deny it, but proof is in the pudding.

Dude is clueless.

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Your situational analysis makes you look far more clueless than he does. White privilege is an easy concept to understand. If you're an educated person with a hint of intelligence and rationality and you STILL don't get it, it's because you're choosing not to. You are satisfied with the status quo. And that's really the saddest thing about reading this thread...how can you look around and say "this is good enough"? It's heartbreaking.

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Go away troll. Who said anything is good enough, of course it's not good enough I just don't want to be lectured by a clown. You included. So while people like me are actually doing the work to make it "better",jackasses like you are trying to set relations between the classes and races back 50 years.

To get away from an all white environment, since I actually grew up in a very integrated environment as a minority and understand equality, in the real world. I moved my child from his current "mostly white" school to a school that his immediate class has 11 white kids, 12 black kids, and 12 hispanic kids. Just so he will grow up with friends of all cultures and races and look up them as his equal, because they are, instead of different. They aren't.

47 is being a jackass when he can be better, he doesn't see all people as equals, you probably don't either, from what I see of your posting.

Continue being a limousine liberal, when folks like me, who you look down on, are doing the actual work to make relations between different people better.

Why is it the racially anxious conservatives who always resort to accusing others of being racist in any race based discussion in this forum?

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Why is it the racially anxious conservatives who always resort to accusing others of being racist in any race based discussion in this forum?

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Because you're racist.

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cinque said:

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Why is it the racially anxious conservatives who always resort to accusing others of being racist in any race based discussion in this forum?

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Because you're racist.

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I know how to make you like a sage hen: in what way am I racist?

He' gone, y'all.

Forest Bueller said:

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Cheshire Bear said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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JXL said:

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Waco1947 said:

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JXL said:

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Since the only privilege which matters is white skin, presumably you believe cinque was wrong when he said "Being "privileged" and white privilege are not necessarily the same things." Cinque is right

And by the way, since white skin is the only privilege which matters, why don't you go ahead and tell me about how white kids growing up in poverty are privileged while Sasha Obama and Jonathan Butler are not.

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White poor kids walk into every restaurant, school, college, marriage, neighborhood, and are puled over by police and they are still white. Guess what ? Blacks are still black and treated differently.

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Yes, they're still white, and still impoverished. So what?

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Also, though not as poor as the truly impoverished growing up, every dime dad made was accounted for. As an individual, I went to a real restaurant one time growing up. When Chilton made it to state and won in 72-73 the team went to a real restaurant at some point in there, dad took us to the restaurant with the team as we all were celebrating. Half the team was black, and the team was noisy and having a good time, nobody bothered any of us. Treated the guys like anybody else. Matter of fact there was a picture of the owners smiling and shaking hands with the coaches and players. He probably respected what they had accomplished.

Impoverished white folk don't go to real restaurants, shoot I didn't, but that once, we made a trip to the DQ about once a year. All other meals were at the house.

With his snippy, uppy up way of presenting himself, I'm starting to think 47, though not realizing it, probably thought he was poor, but for his time, likely was a silver spoon kid. Sure he will vocipherously deny it, but proof is in the pudding.

Dude is clueless.

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Your situational analysis makes you look far more clueless than he does. White privilege is an easy concept to understand. If you're an educated person with a hint of intelligence and rationality and you STILL don't get it, it's because you're choosing not to. You are satisfied with the status quo. And that's really the saddest thing about reading this thread...how can you look around and say "this is good enough"? It's heartbreaking.

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Go away troll. Who said anything is good enough, of course it's not good enough I just don't want to be lectured by a clown. You included. So while people like me are actually doing the work to make it "better",jackasses like you are trying to set relations between the classes and races back 50 years.

To get away from an all white environment, since I actually grew up in a very integrated environment as a minority and understand equality, in the real world. I moved my child from his current "mostly white" school to a school that his immediate class has 11 white kids, 12 black kids, and 12 hispanic kids. Just so he will grow up with friends of all cultures and races and look up them as his equal, because they are, instead of different. They aren't.

47 is being a jackass when he can be better, he doesn't see all people as equals, you probably don't either, from what I see of your posting.

Continue being a limousine liberal, when folks like me, who you look down on, are doing the actual work to make relations between different people better.

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I do look down on people who perpetuate systemic racism. Are you perpetuating systemic racism? I don't know you, so I can't say.

More of an "arm the homeless, eat the rich" kinda liberal, by the way.

Cheshire Bear said:

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Forest Bueller said:

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Go away troll. Who said anything is good enough, of course it's not good enough I just don't want to be lectured by a clown. You included. So while people like me are actually doing the work to make it "better",jackasses like you are trying to set relations between the classes and races back 50 years.

To get away from an all white environment, since I actually grew up in a very integrated environment as a minority and understand equality, in the real world. I moved my child from his current "mostly white" school to a school that his immediate class has 11 white kids, 12 black kids, and 12 hispanic kids. Just so he will grow up with friends of all cultures and races and look up them as his equal, because they are, instead of different. They aren't.

47 is being a jackass when he can be better, he doesn't see all people as equals, you probably don't either, from what I see of your posting.

Continue being a limousine liberal, when folks like me, who you look down on, are doing the actual work to make relations between different people better.

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I do look down on people who perpetuate systemic racism. Are you perpetuating systemic racism? I don't know you, so I can't say.

More of an "arm the homeless, eat the rich" kinda liberal, by the way.

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