Leave it to barBEARian to look forward to deaths of fellow board members.

Utterly disgusting.

Maybe this thing can end soon...

BREAKING: President Trump's team is currently trying to find the "best point of contact" for negotiations with Iran, along with a country to mediate, per Axios.

While Oman mediated the last round, Trump is seeking Qatar as a mediator due to "mutual distrust" with the Omanis.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) March 21, 2026

The 'best point of contact' is changing hourly.

- IDF

D!

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Leave it to barBEARian to look forward to deaths of fellow board members.

Utterly disgusting.

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Totally convinced the only meaning in life for old Boomers is ensuring that society collapses before they die https://t.co/wPSMvNbxxc

— Common Sense Extremists (@crushmarxismnow) January 25, 2026

So...which is it?

BREAKING: More details emerge on a potential peace deal between the US and Iran, per Axios.

Details include:

1. US officials say there could be "room to negotiate" over returning frozen assets to Iran

2. "They call it reparations. Maybe we call it return of frozen money," the…

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) March 21, 2026

BREAKING: Israeli media outlet Kann reports that the US and Israel are preparing for a 'significant expansion' of the war on Iran

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) March 21, 2026

JUST IN: Fox News confirms Israel's Iron Dome failed to intercept Iranian ballistic missiles.

"A lot of people are injured." pic.twitter.com/Gr8P4I3FDn

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) March 21, 2026

BREAKING: Saudi Arabia has threatened to strike at Iran.

The Saudi foreign minister, Prince Faisal bin Farhan, warned that patience with Tehran is running out after an oil refinery was hit and eight Iranian ballistic missiles targeted Riyadh.

“This pressure from Iran will… pic.twitter.com/OaVwCPzDPu

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 21, 2026

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Firing and them hitting target are not the same

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"Yeah, the mob put out a contact on me but the guy they hired is a terrible shot. No need to take any action."

How much time are you going to give them to improve their targeting systems.

What hit rate is acceptable…10%, 30%, etc…..?

How close are you going to let the rattlesnake get to your kids before you put your beer down and go kill it?

More escalation

Trump threatens to “hit and obliterate” Iran’s power plants if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t “fully open” within 48 hours: pic.twitter.com/NR3eRnXtz0

— Shelby Talcott (@ShelbyTalcott) March 21, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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So...which is it?

BREAKING: More details emerge on a potential peace deal between the US and Iran, per Axios.

Details include:

1. US officials say there could be "room to negotiate" over returning frozen assets to Iran

2. "They call it reparations. Maybe we call it return of frozen money," the…

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) March 21, 2026

BREAKING: Israeli media outlet Kann reports that the US and Israel are preparing for a 'significant expansion' of the war on Iran

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) March 21, 2026

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My god, we are considering another treaty, and giving them money. Isn't this the Obama deal 2.0?

" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

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Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

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Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

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With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

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Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

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Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

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We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

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You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

JUST IN: 🇮🇷🇺🇸 Iran says it will target energy infrastructure and desalination plants if the US strikes Iranian power plants.

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) March 22, 2026

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Oh, yeah the obliterated nuclear program... Destroyed like no ever saw. Best ever.

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I observe you have no substantive answer.

Oldbear83 said:

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" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Lots to unpack here, but it is difficult as you go in multiple directions, several which contradict themselves. Unclear how a crippled Iranian army/regime is incapable of holding territory, but also capable of launching a scorched earth defense. We have no idea how much uranium they currently have, or how enriched it is. In 2025 we were told the program was set back years if not totally destroyed... so..., which is it?

And for FWIW, at no point was Germany close to taking Antwerp and splitting the allied armies during the Battle of the Bulge (the German 1944 Ardennes Offensive if you want to be technically correct on the operation name). Even the German generals most loyal to Hitler thought it was a bad plan, over bad terrain for offensive movement with no chance of succeeding. It (maybe) lengthened the war by a month. On the other hand, it effectively destroyed the Germain military's ability to fight anything but a pure defensive war in the western theater, and took more resources away from the Eastern Front, which let the Red Army launch its winter attack into and through Poland a week or two earlier than originally planned. No serious analysis of the battle would come to your conclusion.

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More escalation

Trump threatens to “hit and obliterate” Iran’s power plants if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t “fully open” within 48 hours: pic.twitter.com/NR3eRnXtz0

— Shelby Talcott (@ShelbyTalcott) March 21, 2026

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Long overdue .

Hit em.

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Oldbear83 said:

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" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Oh, yeah the obliterated nuclear program... Destroyed like no ever saw. Best ever.

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I observe you have no substantive answer.

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Best ever. Like no one has ever seen.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Oh, yeah the obliterated nuclear program... Destroyed like no ever saw. Best ever.

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I observe you have no substantive answer.

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Best ever. Like no one has ever seen.

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Hmmm ok ?

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

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Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

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Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

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With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

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Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

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Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

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We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

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You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

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Realistically, the region and the world have changed since 1979, and especially since WW2.

Iran was our ally because they had to choose between us and the Soviets, and Iraq was already buddies with Moscow. Same for the rest of the Middle East.

Things are different now. Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden made sure no one could trust the US to keep their promises. Bush and Bush made sure the US was feared only because of our military, not trade with us.

Trump did all right as far as the Middle East is concerned, in his first term. He's got some cred now, especially if it looks like Vance or Rubio can follow in the White House after him.

Iran is starving on many levels. There are millions of people hoping to set up a new leadership, but Iran has scared off any idea of democracy or even legit self-government for decades.

The question, then, is who has the best chance of gaining support of the people in Iran, that the US can accept in charge.

No strongman, no Islamist maniac, but just maybe a competent group that can lead Iran ahead to something like sanity.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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" At this point, which is it: is Iran collapsing and have we won (for the third or fourth time); or are they a dangerous threat to the very existence of the free world and we need $200 billion more in defense (ha) spending to keep the war going? They can't be both."

Sure it can.

Ever hear of the Battle of the Bulge? It was a desperate effort by a German military which was badly losing the war, but if it had succeeded (and it was closer than many think now) it would extended the war in time, cost and casualties.

In a nominal war, Iran would be suing for a negotiated peace. Their C3 is gone for all practical purposes and they have no ground forces capable of holding territory, let alone launching an offensive.

But Iran is quite capable of launching a scorched-earth defense, even though that would starve their citizens and destroy infrastructure Iran needs for its future. But Iran's remaining Islamo-fascists understand that outright surrender would mean not just a change in politicians, but likely would lead to mobs of ordinary Iranians stringing up the tyrants a la Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. So the remaining Iranian strongmen are doing everything they can to look dangerous, from random missile attacks on civilians and oilfields even in friendly countries, to using up their remaining strategic weapons just to look like a threat. And these men have put out rumors even that they would use a fizzle bomb if pressed far enough, even though crossing that threshold with the US or Israel would invite the most serious reprisals.

The sane hope would be that the people of Iran use piano wire and outrage to remove the monsters who threw their nation into darkness since 1979, or that certain groups with secret names do the world a favor and remove those monsters.

There remains about 460 kilograms of 60+% enriched uranium that makes the matter signififcant.

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Oh, yeah the obliterated nuclear program... Destroyed like no ever saw. Best ever.

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I observe you have no substantive answer.

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Best ever. Like no one has ever seen.

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'No one has ever seen' does describe substance in your answers of late, FLBear.

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KaiBear said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

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Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

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Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

---

With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

---

Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

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Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

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We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

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You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

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Realistically, the region and the world have changed since 1979, and especially since WW2.

Iran was our ally because they had to choose between us and the Soviets, and Iraq was already buddies with Moscow. Same for the rest of the Middle East.

Things are different now. Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden made sure no one could trust the US to keep their promises. Bush and Bush made sure the US was feared only because of our military, not trade with us.

Trump did all right as far as the Middle East is concerned, in his first term. He's got some cred now, especially if it looks like Vance or Rubio can follow in the White House after him.

Iran is starving on many levels. There are millions of people hoping to set up a new leadership, but Iran has scared off any idea of democracy or even legit self-government for decades.

The question, then, is who has the best chance of gaining support of the people in Iran, that the US can accept in charge.

No strongman, no Islamist maniac, but just maybe a competent group that can lead Iran ahead to something like sanity.

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Before the US entered WW2……..Great Britain and the Soviet Union invaded a neutral Iran in order to build an all season road through Iran with which to send supplies to Stalin's armies. The invading Red Army massacred anyone who showed any signs of resistance.

The king of Iran was imprisoned on a small island off the east coast of Africa …..where he died.

After WW2 was over the allies re established the son of the dead king as the ruler of Iran .

That son became known as the Shah.

History is an amazing subject.

You continue to imprint your emotions on things and pretend that makes them fact.

I do happen to know that actual discussions in private between nations are often different from what the media reports, especially where the US is concerned.

If you somehow are still unaware of that fact, well ... bless your heart.

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

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Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

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Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

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With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

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Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

---

Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

---

We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

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You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

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Afghanistan was also a modern Western ally pre-Taliban. But after decades of executions, expulsions, and extremist ideology that reshaped and reoriented society and culture, the road back is impossible to see. Iran is in a not too dissimilar position. Japan gave up their Imperialist ideals. Iran isn't giving up Islamism.

ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

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Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

---

Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

---

With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

---

Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

---

Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

---

We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

---

You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

---

Afghanistan was also a modern Western ally pre-Taliban. But after decades of executions, expulsions, and extremist ideology that reshaped and reoriented society and culture, the road back is impossible to see. Iran is in a not too dissimilar position. Japan gave up their Imperialist ideals. Iran isn't giving up Islamism.

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Japan gave up their emperor deity.

The majority of people in Iran will gladly give up the cruel reign of their mullah's.

ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

---

Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

---

Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

---

With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

---

Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

---

Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

---

LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

---

We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

---

You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

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Afghanistan was also a modern Western ally pre-Taliban.

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In no way was Afghanistan a modern western anything .

Never has been and is likely to remain a tribal mess for generations to come.

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

---

LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

---

Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

---

Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

---

With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

---

Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

---

Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

---

LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

---

We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

---

You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

---

Realistically, the region and the world have changed since 1979, and especially since WW2.

Iran was our ally because they had to choose between us and the Soviets, and Iraq was already buddies with Moscow. Same for the rest of the Middle East.

Things are different now. Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden made sure no one could trust the US to keep their promises. Bush and Bush made sure the US was feared only because of our military, not trade with us.

Trump did all right as far as the Middle East is concerned, in his first term. He's got some cred now, especially if it looks like Vance or Rubio can follow in the White House after him.

Iran is starving on many levels. There are millions of people hoping to set up a new leadership, but Iran has scared off any idea of democracy or even legit self-government for decades.

The question, then, is who has the best chance of gaining support of the people in Iran, that the US can accept in charge.

No strongman, no Islamist maniac, but just maybe a competent group that can lead Iran ahead to something like sanity.

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Sanity in the Middle East requires peace with despots.

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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whiterock said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Joe Kent says dissenters JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Scott Bessent were relegated to the situation room when Iran War started.

Follow: @AFpost

pic.twitter.com/4hPWsvSgIa

— AF Post (@AFpost) March 20, 2026

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This makes me feel a lot better about Vance and Bessent. Tulsi has NEVER been a fan of forever wars on the other side of the world. Would not be surprised to see her step down in the coming weeks.

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LOL I wouldn't put much stock in his comments. A Director of CounterTerrorism in a civilian agency has no need to know be involved in oversight of a military operation. Guarantee you he was not at the WH the night the bombing started.

---

Listened to Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. The guy is very well spoken and did not diss Trump, although he had the right to. Class act. Trump has unleashed the hounds of Hell on him for not toeing the company line. Hannity, Fox News, and the DOJ. Hilarious that Trump claims to want to eliminate the weaponization of the justice system. He may be the worst offender before all is said and done.

---

Gavin Newsome is well-spoken, too. It's the substance that matters.

Kent has gone so far down the isolationism rabbit hole that he's now blaming Israel for all of our foreign policy problems, literally excusing the actions of an Iranian regime which has killed more Americans than any other while consistently pursuing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Iran has admitted to having enough 60% uranium to produce 11 nuclear weapons. If true, that would put them weeks/months away from nuclear capability. (the speed of enrichment process, as a matter of physics, accelerates over time.) They have demonstrated via use this week to have long-range ballistic weapons proven capable of reaching out 4000km. The next leap is intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of striking us.

And of course, we have INDICTED two individuals involved in an assassination plot against Trump. Sorry. You try to kill a former US president running for re-election......you deserve to get your country turned into a parking lot guarded by the US military. Of course, that is hard work. But never fear, there will always be someone who seeks to avoid doing the job by insisting Israel is responsible for all of our foreign policy problems. Blaming Israel makes all foreign policy problems so very simple. Just cut $3b in aid to Israel. Let the Arabs overrun the country and send the Jews all into exile somewhere. And....voila.....the birds sing and the rainbow gleams while the whole world sings in perfect harmony the chords of a just and lasting peace. Selah, selah...as the rastas would say

Isolationism first & foremost is intellectual laziness....an attempt to define away problems rather than dealing with them.
Anti-semitism is the same thing with a little touch of genocide mixed in for effect.

---

With all due respect, it is Trump that has isolated himself and our country from the rest of the Western world. He looks up, and suddenly we have no friends. I do believe that Israel has more power and influence over the United States. I'm just not sure why the little country of 10 million people is able to dictate the foreign policy of the United States. Not sure why we can't seem to any longer tell Israel NO. Something has changed. Not sure what.

---

Again "it's the Jews" nonsense. Complete reversal of cause/effect.

It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have nuclear weapons.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT have ballistic missiles.
It is in our interest for Iran to NOT run terror proxies that kill our citizen.
(I could go on with that list for a while.)

That Israel also has those same interests does not mean that Israel has hornswoggled us. It means we have common interests ergo are close allies. To prove that our, all you have to do is remove Israel from the ndp and run the permutations again. If you do that, nothing changes. The list above is still the list.

Isolationism is intellectual laziness of the highest order. Antisemitism just adds a negative moral factor to it.

---

Is it in our interests not to be the proxy?

This war has turned everything you said about Ukraine (which I agreed) on its head. We are the proxy. We are the one using resources. We are the ones escalating to boots on the ground for others. We do not receive enough resources from this area to take this type of hit.

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LOL pull your head out. We are the sponsor. We pay Israel to be our proxy. And more than any other ally we have, they deliver. They've done half the strikes in Iran. Not since WWIi have we had an all-in partner like that.

Unless the mullah regime survives (unlikely), we will have Iran as a new ally. That gives us the ability to interdict Chinese oil supplies without firing a shot. Without weighing a single anchor. Via "diplomacy."

You know all that. Why the troll nonsense?

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We are about to have a new ally, Iran? And you are wondering what someone else is smoking? Check your own mouth first, you will find BULLSHEEEET.

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You are so incredibly stupid.

After we destroyed Japan…they became and remain one of our strongest and most reliable allies in Asia.

Until recently….the same applied to Germany.


Iran was once a friend of the United States and could possibly become one again.

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My god, you just compared post WWII Japan to Iran today. Wow. Yeah it's just like with Japan and Germany.