whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

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People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

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"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

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People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

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"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

---

People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

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People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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"If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority."

This is a direct quote from Bearfan33

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

---

People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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"If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority."

This is a direct quote from Bearfan33

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Do you know what the word "if" means?

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

---

People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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"If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority."

This is a direct quote from Bearfan33

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Do you know what the word "if" means?

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Take the L, man. You made a factually inaccurate statement, and I politely showed you where you were wrong. Move on.

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BREAKING: President Trump says he might take the oil, reopen the Strait of Hormuz, and make a fortune.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) April 3, 2026

FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

---

People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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"If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority."

This is a direct quote from Bearfan33

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Do you know what the word "if" means?

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Take the L, man. You made a factually inaccurate statement, and I politely showed you where you were wrong. Move on.

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You are serious? You read that sentence and see that he said we don't have air superiority?? Really? You went to Baylor? You really don't know what "if" and "I'd" means? You 8?

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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Realitybites said:

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Iran shoots down U.S. F-15 fighter jet

Another F-15 down. Unclear if the pilot survived, but at this point it does not seem so. No denial by CENTCOM.

"the tail seen here would indicate an aircraft assigned to the 494th Fighter Squadron at RAF Lakenheath in England, based on its red band. This is one of the units that has been deployed to the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of operations for Epic Fury.

Previous documented F-15E crashes in the Middle East or Afghanistan don't involve aircraft from the 494th Fighter Squadron, as far as we can ascertain. Specifically, since Desert Storm (when the 48th Fighter Wing operated F-111s, not F-15Es), these (non-combat) losses occurred in Iraq (April 2003, 335th FS, 4th FW), Afghanistan (July 2009, 336th FS, 4th FW), and Libya (March 2011, 492nd FS, 48th FW)."

As far as I can tell, this is the 4th or 5th F-15 that has been shot down, in addition to the F-35.

NO. WE HAD 3 SHOT DOWN IN A FRIENDLY FIRE ACCIDENT OVER KUWAIT. IF THSE REPORTS ARE TRUE, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL DOWNING OF A US AIRCRAFT OVER IRAN.

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"If confirmed, the loss would be the first known combat loss of a crewed U.S. Air Force aircraft over Iranian territory since the war began."

So the 4th or 5th F15 losses you are talking about are from the last 15 years or just in this iran conflict?

All loses stink but need to be clear if it's combat losses vs non-combat losses. Is the plane shot down or did it have engine trouble and go down?

If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority.

---

People forget air superiority is not just plane to plane...

---

"Air Superiority" means you have a more favorable position in the air than your opponent. We are quite a bit beyond that. Iran has no position in the sky whatsoever. It literally cannot get any more lopsided. We fly as many missions as we wish, and Iran flies zero. Think late WWII when we ran non-stop bombing missions over Germany. Germany still had fighters. Still shot down our fighters and bombers. Still was able to conduct aerial missions of its own against our ground forces. But the balance of power in the air was significantly in our favor (and the ratio increased as the war progressed).

"Air Supremacy" means your opponent has no ability to EFFECTIVELY resist your aerial operations, or to mount effective air operations of its own. It does not mean you will not lose any aircraft to AAA or MANPADS. An insurgent with a Stinger or a single AAA battery getting off a lucky shot once or twice per month does not change the operational reality of Air Supremacy. To do so, the AAA/MANPAD threat would have to be significant enough to deter us in some significant way from launching air missions.

So what does the report card look like in Epic Fury? In the 35 days of the operation, we have lost 3 aircraft to friendly fire (not over Iran), at least one to accident (not over Iran), and exactly (maybe) 1 aircraft in combat over Iran.......despite flying 12,000 flight missions over Iran. That, friends, is textbook Air Supremacy.

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No one said we didn't have air superiority...

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"If we lost 4-5 fighter jets in Iran I'd argue we don't have air superiority."

This is a direct quote from Bearfan33

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Do you know what the word "if" means?

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Take the L, man. You made a factually inaccurate statement, and I politely showed you where you were wrong. Move on.

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You are serious? You read that sentence and see that he said we don't have air superiority?? Really? You went to Baylor? You really don't know what "if" and "I'd" means? You 8?

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Sure. Keep parsing small words to try and backtrack. Then go for the tried and true insult to intelligence. You're doing great, man. I have an 8 year old. You know what he struggles with? Admitting when he's wrong.

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At the moment, Israel is not aiding the U.S. in rescue attempts for pilots in Iran, according to Channel 14.

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) April 3, 2026

Breaking News: One American was rescued from a U.S. fighter jet crash in Iran, officials said. The fate of a second crew member was unknown. This was the first time during the war in Iran that a U.S. warplane had been brought down over Iran. https://t.co/xI23n0khuu

— The New York Times (@nytimes) April 3, 2026

A McDonnell-Douglas ACES II (Advanced Concept Ejection Seat) from a U.S. Air Force F-15E Strike Eagle has been found by residents in Southern Iran, the whereabouts or status of the pilot and weapons officer is currently unknown, with unconfirmed reports that one or both of the… pic.twitter.com/V0KMonfQiv

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) April 3, 2026

BREAKING: Iran has officially told mediators it is not willing to meet US officials in Pakistan in the coming days and the US demands are "unacceptable," per WSJ.

Details include:

1. The current round of efforts to reach a cease-fire has reached a "dead end," mediators said

2.…

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) April 3, 2026

BREAKING: Iran has struck a deal with France to allow French ships through the Strait of Hormuz.

France is the first Western and NATO nation granted access. Macron has been calling for the strait to reopen 'in concertation' with Iran since day one, while refusing to join the US…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) April 3, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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At the moment, Israel is not aiding the U.S. in rescue attempts for pilots in Iran, according to Channel 14.

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) April 3, 2026

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🚨UNCONFIRMED: Initial reports from Iran indicate the successful targeting of an American helicopter during search operations of downed F-15 fighter jet earlier today. pic.twitter.com/vhZvAn7ZsJ

— Clash Observer (@clashobserver) April 3, 2026

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: Iran has struck a deal with France to allow French ships through the Strait of Hormuz.

France is the first Western and NATO nation granted access. Macron has been calling for the strait to reopen 'in concertation' with Iran since day one, while refusing to join the US…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) April 3, 2026

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: Iran has struck a deal with France to allow French ships through the Strait of Hormuz.

France is the first Western and NATO nation granted access. Macron has been calling for the strait to reopen 'in concertation' with Iran since day one, while refusing to join the US…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) April 3, 2026

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How long until Europe asks the US to leave NATO?
And don't bother bringing up how self destructive that would be to Europe. Like that is even a priority.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: Iran has struck a deal with France to allow French ships through the Strait of Hormuz.

France is the first Western and NATO nation granted access. Macron has been calling for the strait to reopen 'in concertation' with Iran since day one, while refusing to join the US…

— The Hormuz Letter (@HormuzLetter) April 3, 2026

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How long until Europe asks the US to leave NATO?
And don't bother bringing up how self destructive that would be to Europe. Like that is even a priority.

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When jews realize that Americans are going to die for them in the war.pic.twitter.com/ZKCaQkrV9V https://t.co/K1b1PAmbih

— Parinda 2.0🕊 (@Parinda_2) April 3, 2026

Porteroso said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The sloganeering went from “Free Iran,” to, “Bomb all civilian infrastructure and leave 90 million people without clean water or medical care.”

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) April 2, 2026

Trump, in a new post, confirms that the U.S. bombed Iran’s B-1 bridge in Karaj today, and threatens additional strikes on Iranian infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/BLzl4U5WpQ

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) April 2, 2026

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Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Does this mean Iran is winning?

Hard to tell….

BREAKING : Mohammad Sadeghi, head of Missile Unit in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, has been killed in the strike by the US and Israeli Airforce. He had threatened to assassinate Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, a few days ago. pic.twitter.com/xH4rjK9FsV

— Baba Banaras™ (@RealBababanaras) April 2, 2026

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boognish_bear said:

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At the moment, Israel is not aiding the U.S. in rescue attempts for pilots in Iran, according to Channel 14.

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) April 3, 2026

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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We certainly see how some here hang on every rumor, hoping they can crow about American losses.

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ATL Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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We certainly see how some here hang on every rumor, hoping they can crow about American losses.

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My son is in the process of becoming a Marine officer, so you can **** right off with that sentiment you miserable sycophant.

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ATL Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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We certainly see how some here hang on every rumor, hoping they can crow about American losses.

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My son is in the process of becoming a Marine officer, so you can **** right off with that sentiment you miserable sycophant.

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ATL Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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We certainly see how some here hang on every rumor, hoping they can crow about American losses.

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My son is in the process of becoming a Marine officer, so you can **** right off with that sentiment you miserable sycophant.

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whiterock said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Air Superiority was never in question even before the conflict started. Its relevance to victory completely depends upon how you define it (victory). Welcome to asymmetric war.

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We certainly see how some here hang on every rumor, hoping they can crow about American losses.

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My son is in the process of becoming a Marine officer, so you can **** right off with that sentiment you miserable sycophant.

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My daughter is an Air Force officer directly involved in the airlift for this operation, so why don't you lighten up, Francis.

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