President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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Mitch Blood Green
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cowboycwr said:

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I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.


Why do you think they will use it? Today, I'm more concerned that Israel or us will use a nuke.

No other global power is bombing fishing boats or invading countries.
Danielsjackson114
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Hamas Harry aka Sam Lousery could be besties with Hasn Piker being that both openly root for terrorists and the downfall of America
Mitch Blood Green
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cowboycwr said:

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I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????


He named a few. One I wasn't expecting. Tom Pritzger.

And I guess it was a massive fail since nothing happened with those and it wasn't even enough of a name drop with saying what they did for it to be news.


It's on Kash Patel to do something. He won't.
J.R.
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HuMcK said:

Hmm, maybe we should have made a deal to get some inspectors in there or something. Maybe something with an international coalition, and verifiable benchmarks.

We could call it something like a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action...

nah. that would make too much sense!
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.


Why do you think they will use it? Today, I'm more concerned that Israel or us will use a nuke.

No other global power is bombing fishing boats or invading countries.

I do not think that we know they will not use a nuclear device. They have sponsored acts of terrorism where innocent civilians are the targets. Examples are the suicide bombers in Israel, World Trade Center Attack, the Oct 7 attack of the music festival in Israel. The US has a good track record of not using Nukes post WWII. It is believed that Israel has nuclear capability but they have never used it.

I do agree with you concerning the USA bombing fishing boats and invading countries.

Mitch Blood Green
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Guy Noir said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.


Why do you think they will use it? Today, I'm more concerned that Israel or us will use a nuke.

No other global power is bombing fishing boats or invading countries.

I do not think that we know they will not use a nuclear device. They have sponsored acts of terrorism where innocent civilians are the targets. Examples are the suicide bombers in Israel, World Trade Center Attack, the Oct 7 attack of the music festival in Israel. The US has a good track record of not using Nukes post WWII. It is believed that Israel has nuclear capability but they have never used it.

I do agree with your concerning the USA bombing fishing boats and invading countries.




World Trade was mostly Saudi (9/11). Sept 7 was Hamas and Israeli incompetence. Anything Huthi and Hesbollah is them.

We are an unsafe world. We don't attack all threats because when you do, you become the threat.
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cowboycwr
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FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.

You really think they would use it offensively? I don't. It would be used as a deterrent like everyone else does. Using it means the nuclear destruction of the Country. Same with North Korea. To them, it is a golden ticket NOT to be attacked or invaded.

If anything, this little endeavor or Trump's and Bibi's moves them and others closer to getting one. There biggest fear is invasion and we showed we will attack. I would be more concerned with China or Russia giving them the tech and even a working warhead than developing it themselves.

Very good article on Iran and nukes. Makes some very good points and approaches from a data and informational perspective.

What Happens If Iran Gets Nuclear Weapons? - The DEFCON Warning System - Since 1984

Yes.

They might not launch an ICBM or short range missile but they would probably do like they do with conventional weapons. Sell them to Syria, ISIS type groups, Hezbollah, etc. for that group to do a dirty bomb, truck bomb or plant a nuke in Israel or on a cargo ship bound for the US.

nukes? they would do conventional in a heart beat. Nukes, no. A proxy would result in same destruction. They want a deterrent, they like playing the games. Using nukes, them or a proxy, ends the games. They are loving the current games

9/11 says hello.

Along with every other terror attack.

They don't think past the attack.

They want their 70 virgins.

Besides are you willing to risk the chance you are wrong?
cowboycwr
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Sam Lowry said:

The idea that Iran wants to attack US soil with a nuke is completely absurd. Always has been.

The idea that 19 people would kill themselves by flying a plane into a skyscrapper is completely absurd.......


but terrorists do absurd as their MO.
Danielsjackson114
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Hamas Harry aka Sam Losery loves terrorists. He takes their side everytime
cowboycwr
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.


Why do you think they will use it? Today, I'm more concerned that Israel or us will use a nuke.

No other global power is bombing fishing boats or invading countries.

No other country????

There are several that are currently invading others.

Plus we are not invading. Nor are we attacking simply fishing boats.
fubar
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Why in the world does ANYBODY think that this operation is going to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?
Mitch Blood Green
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fubar said:

Why in the world does ANYBODY think that this operation is going to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons?



It makes it necessary.
D. C. Bear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.


Why do you think they will use it? Today, I'm more concerned that Israel or us will use a nuke.

No other global power is bombing fishing boats or invading countries.


Mahadism.
Forest Bueller III
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Over 6 months later and it was supposed to last 2 weeks.

Harrison Bergeron
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Forest Bueller III said:

Over 6 months later and it was supposed to last 2 weeks.




And I thought we destroyed its nuclear program with the strike in June 2025.
fubar
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Obliterated it.
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FLBear5630
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Danielsjackson114 said:

And the interest paid, Hamas Harry?

1.7 Billion vs 43 Billion+destroyed bases+Straits shut=Art of the Deal, huh...
Danielsjackson114
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You have said a lot of dumb sht on here, but this may take the cake if you cannot see the difference between the two

My favorite is when you said trump was direct depositing Trump Gold Card money
J.R.
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So much winning! Where the dust at? We got it, didn't we?
boognish_bear
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fubar
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J.R. said:

So much winning! Where the dust at? We got it, didn't we?

I don't think it's supposed to matter any more.
boognish_bear
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Harrison Bergeron
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boognish_bear said:



This has the ring of "50 intelligence experts."
boognish_bear
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Not sure this is the winning message with average voters that he thinks it is

boognish_bear
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Why do we need to do this? Aren't they begging for a deal?

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historian said:

You are describing Obama, Biden, Kamala, and many other Dems but you typed the name "Trump". More Leftist projection.


Man, gimme some of what you're smoking.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

historian said:

You are describing Obama, Biden, Kamala, and many other Dems but you typed the name "Trump". More Leftist projection.


Man, gimme some of what you're smoking.

Crack kills!
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HuMcK said:

Hmm, maybe we should have made a deal to get some inspectors in there or something. Maybe something with an international coalition, and verifiable benchmarks.

We could call it something like a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action...


Inspections were obviously ineffective. Enriching apparently never stopped. Inspectors can only go where someone has gone before. They don't get to go to any sites they don't know about. Iran is not a small country. Lots of places to hide stuff. Lots of black market to work with.
EatMoreSalmon
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boognish_bear said:




Stupid blowfish.
Sam Lowry
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EatMoreSalmon said:

HuMcK said:

Hmm, maybe we should have made a deal to get some inspectors in there or something. Maybe something with an international coalition, and verifiable benchmarks.

We could call it something like a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action...


Inspections were obviously ineffective. Enriching apparently never stopped. Inspectors can only go where someone has gone before. They don't get to go to any sites they don't know about. Iran is not a small country. Lots of places to hide stuff. Lots of black market to work with.

Enriching was never supposed to stop. It was strictly controlled in terms of both the level of enrichment and the size of the stockpiles, and there's zero evidence that the controls were ineffective while the agreement was in place.
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Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

HuMcK said:

Hmm, maybe we should have made a deal to get some inspectors in there or something. Maybe something with an international coalition, and verifiable benchmarks.

We could call it something like a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action...


Inspections were obviously ineffective. Enriching apparently never stopped. Inspectors can only go where someone has gone before. They don't get to go to any sites they don't know about. Iran is not a small country. Lots of places to hide stuff. Lots of black market to work with.

Enriching was never supposed to stop. It was strictly controlled in terms of both the level of enrichment and the size of the stockpiles, and there's zero evidence that the controls were ineffective while the agreement was in place.


Yet it obviously continued somewhere in Iran beyond the allowed percentage.
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