The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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Realitybites said:

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Mothra said:

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And Thomas Massie is an idiot who is no longer in office because of it.

No traditional conservatives are going to vote for Massie in any large numbers. He's a poor man's Ron Paul without the likability. And he has too much hatred of Israel.

He has no shot of being president.

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Thomas Massie lost his primary because

Pro-Israel interest groups spent over $9 million directly to unseat Thomas Massie in the 2026 Kentucky Republican primary, contributing to a record-breaking $32.6 million in total ad spending for the race. This figure includes more than $4 million from the United Democracy Project (AIPAC's super PAC) and over $4 million from the Republican Jewish Coalition Victory Fund, making it the most expensive House primary in U.S. history.

...and Boomercon fell for it.

As far as being president, we will see. 2028 is still two years away and by then the Boomers will be down another -8% of the population.

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Problem is, when you lose in your own backyard, you're not going to do very well in a national election, especially when you're an uncharismatic wallflower who runs on Israel hate.

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Lincoln was uncharismatic, ugly, had a high pitched voice, and lost in his own backyard 5 times.

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Lincoln was an eloquent speaker and debater.

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So is Massie

His Boomer Ziocon controlled opposition refused to debate the guy... how nuts is that? You are running against an incumbent but are too scared to debate him?

Same with Byrone in Florida. He refuses to debate Fishback because he knows he'd get torn to pieces.

Its incredible how Boomer Ziocons run from debate because their insane ideology cant stand any scrutiny from real America First conservatism

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No, he's not. Not by any objective measure. I get that you like him because he shares your Jew hatred, but he's just not an eloquent or dynamic speaker.

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Do you have proof that Thomas Massie hates Jews?

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Yes.

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Well, we're waiting…

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I'm not sure why, when a simple google search could have done the trick. But if you need it spoon fed...

• Massie was the only Republican to vote against a resolution supporting Israel following the October 7, 2023, attacks, and the only member of the House to vote "no" on a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist. He consistently called for ending all U.S. military aid to Israel.
  
• During his 2026 primary racewhich saw heavy spending by pro-Israel PACs to unseat himMassie made headlines for his concession speech. Addressing his opponent, he remarked: "I would've come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede. And it took a while to find Ed Gallrein in Tel Aviv.
• He drew further attention by frequently criticizing the Israeli government and later describing the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty as "intentional murder" rather than an accident
  
  

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None of that shows Thomas Massie hates Jews. Maybe Israel?

I expect more from you, mainly because you're the one who's always asking people to provide evidence to back up their statements. Do better.

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Yes, I suspected you'd try to argue this doesn't prove he dislikes Jews. But unfortunately, it's not the gotcha you think it is, young en.

You probably need to learn the difference between rhetorical and facetious statements and facts. Kind of like how your little buddies call me Israel first, a Zionist or a boomer, even though I am none of the above.

But I guess it's ok when they do it.

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You didn't suspect a thing. You spewed out nonsense and got called on it. If that was the case, you would've said it was facetious from the get-go. But instead you told me that you have proof that Thomas Massie is an anti-semite.

You certainly are a lawyer, the way you try to spin things.

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Son, I hate to damage your ego, but you are as predictable as the sunrise. The minute you asked me for proof of my opinion on Massie, I of course knew you'd try to dispute it (unsuccessfully, of course). You're not exactly Brainiac.

What's really hilarious is you believe you "called me out" and somehow disproved my opinion on Massie. I get that a Massie apologist will try to spin the clear evidence of his antisemitism. Birds of a feather...

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Wow… you're getting awfully defensive over there!

Just be an honorable man and say "I believe Thomas Massie is an anti-semite but I have no substantive evidence to back it up"

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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Realitybites said:

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Mothra said:

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And Thomas Massie is an idiot who is no longer in office because of it.

No traditional conservatives are going to vote for Massie in any large numbers. He's a poor man's Ron Paul without the likability. And he has too much hatred of Israel.

He has no shot of being president.

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Thomas Massie lost his primary because

Pro-Israel interest groups spent over $9 million directly to unseat Thomas Massie in the 2026 Kentucky Republican primary, contributing to a record-breaking $32.6 million in total ad spending for the race. This figure includes more than $4 million from the United Democracy Project (AIPAC's super PAC) and over $4 million from the Republican Jewish Coalition Victory Fund, making it the most expensive House primary in U.S. history.

...and Boomercon fell for it.

As far as being president, we will see. 2028 is still two years away and by then the Boomers will be down another -8% of the population.

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Problem is, when you lose in your own backyard, you're not going to do very well in a national election, especially when you're an uncharismatic wallflower who runs on Israel hate.

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Lincoln was uncharismatic, ugly, had a high pitched voice, and lost in his own backyard 5 times.

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Lincoln was an eloquent speaker and debater.

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So is Massie

His Boomer Ziocon controlled opposition refused to debate the guy... how nuts is that? You are running against an incumbent but are too scared to debate him?

Same with Byrone in Florida. He refuses to debate Fishback because he knows he'd get torn to pieces.

Its incredible how Boomer Ziocons run from debate because their insane ideology cant stand any scrutiny from real America First conservatism

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No, he's not. Not by any objective measure. I get that you like him because he shares your Jew hatred, but he's just not an eloquent or dynamic speaker.

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Do you have proof that Thomas Massie hates Jews?

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Yes.

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Well, we're waiting…

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I'm not sure why, when a simple google search could have done the trick. But if you need it spoon fed...

• Massie was the only Republican to vote against a resolution supporting Israel following the October 7, 2023, attacks, and the only member of the House to vote "no" on a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist. He consistently called for ending all U.S. military aid to Israel.
  
• During his 2026 primary racewhich saw heavy spending by pro-Israel PACs to unseat himMassie made headlines for his concession speech. Addressing his opponent, he remarked: "I would've come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede. And it took a while to find Ed Gallrein in Tel Aviv.
• He drew further attention by frequently criticizing the Israeli government and later describing the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty as "intentional murder" rather than an accident
  
  

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None of that shows Thomas Massie hates Jews. Maybe Israel?

I expect more from you, mainly because you're the one who's always asking people to provide evidence to back up their statements. Do better.

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Yes, I suspected you'd try to argue this doesn't prove he dislikes Jews. But unfortunately, it's not the gotcha you think it is, young en.

You probably need to learn the difference between rhetorical and facetious statements and facts. Kind of like how your little buddies call me Israel first, a Zionist or a boomer, even though I am none of the above.

But I guess it's ok when they do it.

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You didn't suspect a thing. You spewed out nonsense and got called on it. If that was the case, you would've said it was facetious from the get-go. But instead you told me that you have proof that Thomas Massie is an anti-semite.

You certainly are a lawyer, the way you try to spin things.

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Son, I hate to damage your ego, but you are as predictable as the sunrise. The minute you asked me for proof of my opinion on Massie, I of course knew you'd try to dispute it (unsuccessfully, of course). You're not exactly Brainiac.

What's really hilarious is you believe you "called me out" and somehow disproved my opinion on Massie. I get that a Massie apologist will try to spin the clear evidence of his antisemitism. Birds of a feather...

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Wow… you're getting awfully defensive over there!

Just be an honorable man and say "I believe Thomas Massie is an anti-semite but I have no substantive evidence to back it up"

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

I do get you love you some Thomas Massie and will defend even his most disgusting conduct. The evidence of his antisemitism is pretty obvious for reasonable people.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

---

That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

---

That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Well since you seem to have intimate knowledge of my personal life despite the fact I've never met you and dont know who the **** you are - prove it. You are the "evidence" guy after all so I'm sure you wouldnt lie and make **** up.

P.S. Your hero Lyndsey Graham was childless and unmarried.

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Those were good days for me. My parents were chill. I lived in Chicago and wore designer clothes. Adulting is for the birds.

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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Netanyahu: "The Founding Fathers of America built the American Republic, but they drew inspiration from something far older… the Hebrew Bible."

"The values first revealed in Jerusalem helped shape the greatest republic in human history." pic.twitter.com/iBgaKYMvkX

— Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 (@infolibnews) July 7, 2026

Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Those were good days for me. My parents were chill. I lived in Chicago and wore designer clothes. Adulting is for the birds.

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Indeed they were. But most of us moved out (at least temporarily) when we were 18, and permanently when we reached 22.

Some poor souls are still living with mom and dad in their mid-thirties. Alas, poor barbearian.

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

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*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

---

Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Those were good days for me. My parents were chill. I lived in Chicago and wore designer clothes. Adulting is for the birds.

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Indeed they were. But most of us moved out (at least temporarily) when we were 18, and permanently when we reached 22.

Some poor souls are still living with mom and dad in their mid-thirties. Alas, poor barbearian.

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

---

That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America "battled for survival" without asking for free handouts. They didnt constantly whine about what victims they were and beg, cheat, and steal from other nations like the gypsies in Israel did.

Israel wouldnt even exist without America's charity. We all know that, but if you told that to an Israeli they would whine, lie, and tell you the exact opposite. That the only reason America exists is because of Israel.

Netanyahu: "The Founding Fathers of America built the American Republic, but they drew inspiration from something far older… the Hebrew Bible."

"The values first revealed in Jerusalem helped shape the greatest republic in human history." pic.twitter.com/iBgaKYMvkX

— Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 (@infolibnews) July 7, 2026

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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You kind of gave up the right to talk about what is honorable when you decided to target a specific people group for hatred and contempt. Sorry. The good thing is you're young and naive, and have time to turn it around. Wisdom comes with age. Hopefully you don't take the barbearian path and let your hatred consume you.

---

*Translation* Don't worry little bro... since you're young we'll give you one last chance to renounce your loyalty to America over Israel in the re-education camp. But if that doesn't work we are going to have to send you to the place we send the haters to that people dont come back from.....

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I just don't want him to become the single, childless, impotent, unsuccessful, whiny-little thirty something b*tch living with mom and dad in his mid-thirties, like you.

BTW, I really do love how the facts about Israel trigger you to the point you are unable to respond to the facts presented.

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lol ok Boomer.

I'm debt free and a self-made multi-millionaire.

I'm not saying that to brag, only to dispel the bull**** you make-up to discredit me.

I'd be much better off if I had fought Israel's wars out of high school instead of buying into the myth of higher education and putting myself in a debt trap that took most of my twenties to pay off.

When your old ass went to college you could probably pay off your tuition with a summer job at McDonalds and when you got out there were jobs aplenty because the Boomers hadnt opened the H1B flood gates yet.... but here I am whining again by noticing how easy you had it

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Now, that is some hilarious fiction right there. Thanks for the laugh.

Come on, little guy, we all know you are a single and childless loser who is still sucking on the parents teets.

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Those were good days for me. My parents were chill. I lived in Chicago and wore designer clothes. Adulting is for the birds.

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Indeed they were. But most of us moved out (at least temporarily) when we were 18, and permanently when we reached 22.

Some poor souls are still living with mom and dad in their mid-thirties. Alas, poor barbearian.

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Still waiting on your evidence...

Its ironic the "show me the evidence" guy is the biggest prevaricator on this board.

You arent doing much to dispel my theory that the more someone supports Israel, the more odious a human being they are.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America "battled for survival" without asking for free handouts. They didnt constantly whine about what victims they were and beg, cheat, and steal from other nations like the gypsies in Israel did.

Israel wouldnt even exist without America's charity. We all know that, but if you told that to an Israeli they would whine, lie, and tell you the exact opposite. That the only reason America exists is because of Israel.

Netanyahu: "The Founding Fathers of America built the American Republic, but they drew inspiration from something far older… the Hebrew Bible."

"The values first revealed in Jerusalem helped shape the greatest republic in human history." pic.twitter.com/iBgaKYMvkX

— Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 (@infolibnews) July 7, 2026

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Lord, you are stupid. America received substantial aid from France, Spain, and the Netherlands during the War of Independence. We likely would not have survived without it.

And way to miss the point once again, Jew-hater. My point, which once again flew over your empty Jew-hating brain, was that its illogical to suggest that Israel is a bloodthirsy war monger because it had to fight for survival, while at the same time holding America to a different standard.

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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So it's the genocide claims from the last year or so that you're referring to when you claim they are bloodthirsty warmongers?

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

---

That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

---

Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America "battled for survival" without asking for free handouts. They didnt constantly whine about what victims they were and beg, cheat, and steal from other nations like the gypsies in Israel did.

Israel wouldnt even exist without America's charity. We all know that, but if you told that to an Israeli they would whine, lie, and tell you the exact opposite. That the only reason America exists is because of Israel.

Netanyahu: "The Founding Fathers of America built the American Republic, but they drew inspiration from something far older… the Hebrew Bible."

"The values first revealed in Jerusalem helped shape the greatest republic in human history." pic.twitter.com/iBgaKYMvkX

— Chris Menahan 🇺🇸 (@infolibnews) July 7, 2026

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Lord, you are stupid. America received substantial aid from France, Spain, and the Netherlands during the War of Independence. We likely would not have survived without it.

And way to miss the point once again, Jew-hater. My point, which once again flew over your empty Jew-hating brain, was that its illogical to suggest that Israel is a bloodthirsy war monger because it had to fight for survival, while at the same time holding America to a different standard.

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No, your point was they were sweet baby angels who were attacked on all sides for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

You are continuously erecting new strawman's when you are unable to support your previous statements.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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historian said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

---

You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

---

That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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So it's the genocide claims from the last year or so that you're referring to when you claim they are bloodthirsty warmongers?

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I would go a bit further back

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

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I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

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Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

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Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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So it's the genocide claims from the last year or so that you're referring to when you claim they are bloodthirsty warmongers?

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I would go a bit further back

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Whether or not what is happening in Gaza is genocide is overall not that relevant. Israel has a long and well documented history of attacking and killing civilians, basically from its inception. Sometimes possibly justified, other times pretty clearly not. To pretend otherwise is to be willfully ignorant.

The steadfast and resolute devotion of so many American evangelicals to equating the modern state of Israel with the Kingdom of Israel in the Bible is such a fascinating phenomenon.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

---

Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

---

Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

---

Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

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America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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So it's the genocide claims from the last year or so that you're referring to when you claim they are bloodthirsty warmongers?

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I would go a bit further back

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Ok, to what date?

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

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That's not what I said. It's the world's only Jewish state but it's not a theocracy (government ruled by clergy) like the Vatican & Iran. However, Israel & Judaism go together.

Most importantly, Israel has a special role in God's plans. I have no doubt that God was involved in the creation of the modern state of Israel and in their continued survival and prosperity against all odds. His covenant with them continues.

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You're nuts.

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Nice retort. Way to refute his positions, Brainiac.

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historian is over there writing on the walls with his own feces.... what is he suppose to refute?

That God created the present day secular state of Israel?

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That's what's funny about the modern state of Israel.

Super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles.

---

I forgot the America Firsters prefer this. Damn those Western freedoms and democracies! This is FAR better:






Sure am glad we don't have gay pride parades in the U.S.

Speaking of the US, imagine that since the day the US was founded, several neighboring countries had repeatedly gone to war against it. Specifically, right after it was founded, let's say that it had been attacked by a coalition of countries consisting of, say, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia and Argentina. And let's say their goal was to eradicate the U.S. Ok to respond to that attack?

Imagine just a 7-8 years later, 3 of those countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

Now, let's fast forward another 11 years, and imagine that several of those same countries once again attacked America with the goal of eradication.

And then 5 years later, let's imagine that two of those countries decided to launch a surprise attack on the 4th of July.

Now, let's imagine that several of our enemies decided to arm militia groups in Mexico and Canada, and gave them an endless supply of weapons to launch attacks throughout the United State. Imagine that over the following decades, hostile governments and armed groups on America's borders repeatedly launched rockets, bombings, raids, and other attacks against American civilians.

Imagine that one of those groups eventually gained control of the entire country of Mexico, and that country's goal was American annihilation. Imagine that territory remained under the control of an organization that openly called for the destruction of the United States and regularly attacked American communities.

Then imagine that this country carried out the deadliest terrorist attack in modern American history murdering civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, and kidnapping hundreds of people.

Under those circumstances, would you view military action against those groups as self-defense, or would you expect America to simply put up and tolerate the deaths of its women and children? Would American be "blood thirsty war mongers" for finally attempting to wipe out the group responsible for killing thousands of innocent civilians over the years?

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Lmao, we've been going back and forth for about a year now and you still don't know my beliefs? Out of all the "America Firsters" on this board, NONE of them are pro-Islam. If we had it our way, they'd all be deported.

That's a nice analogy, but there's no need for it… From the moment settlers arrived on this continent, they were surrounded by hostile adversaries. For over 200 years, many settlements faced violent attacks and conflicts. Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield are just a few examples.

Foreign powers also played a role in these conflicts. France armed Native Americans during conflicts like King Philip's War and was even more involved during King William's War. Britain used Native American alliances against the colonies during conflicts with the Americans roughly 100 years later. In the end, we conquered them and won.

I'm America First, that doesn't mean I'm an anti-interventionist. My view is that America should prioritize its own interests, and I don't believe our relationship with Israel is essential. You'll argue that we need that alliance, I disagree.

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Ah, so you believe the settlers in Jamestown, Zwaanendael, and Deerfield were "blood-thirsty warmongers" for defending themselves against the hostiles?

As for America First, you might need to talk to your leader, Tucker Carlson, as well as MTG, who have both been apologists and expressed support for Islam. Tell me you aren't unaware of this.

---

Warmongers? No, they were brutally slaughtered by Indians. The Dutch at Zwannendael and the English at Deerfield negotiated the land via treaties, they were still murdered by their Indian neighbors. But you completely missed my point, which is I'm pro-American conquest, not Israeli conquest; they have a right to exist, if they can fight for it. I just don't want the US involved in that fight.

As for Tucker, idk why you keep bringing him up. We share some similar beliefs but I think he's tied to CIA. His connections to Thiel and Saudi are sus as well. And I have said repeatedly that MTG is a coward, idk why you keep bringing her up to me

---

Unfortunately, it's you who are missing the point. You described Israel as "super gay and degenerate on one side, while it's blood thirsty warmongers on the other. I guess they aren't bound by the same rules as us Gentiles." Those are your words.

So that naturally begs the question, to any reasonable person, regarding whether battling for survival against a hostile enemy - as Israel has done the last 70 plus years - makes them "blood thirsty warmongers" in your book? You say the rule doesn't apply to "gentiles," so it begs the question - would you consider America blood-thirsty warmngers for doing the same thing as Israel? It sounds like the answer is no. It's ok for America to do it, but not ok for Israel.

Indeed, it does appear you hold Israelis to a different standard than the gentiles.

As for Tucker and MTG, I was referring to America First generally, and you are well aware those two are leaders in the movement. It's good to hear you've broken with your fellow America Firsters on this board on those two issues. You still have promise.

---

America First is a broad philosophy and many people claim the right side of the spectrum, there's no distinct leader. The modern use was made popular by Trump. Nick Fuentes calls his movement America First and I guess Mtg and Tucker use it as well?

As for Israel and Early Americans, I believe the differences are staunch. But there's no point in going at it as you don't believe the genocide claims like I do.

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So it's the genocide claims from the last year or so that you're referring to when you claim they are bloodthirsty warmongers?

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I would go a bit further back

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Ok, to what date?

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2023

Though they have accusations dating back to 1948

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