WNBA DOUBLES DOWN ON TRANS GARBAGE

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Everyone knows what a woman is. But woke Leftists pretend that it cannot be defined easily (including a certain Supreme Court Justice). In their view, a man declaring himself a woman makes it so. By their own standards, Enes and Royce are women. The WNBA might get sued over it and they should be.

The whole thing is a fraud & charade but it's one of the Left's making. Many of us are enjoying the schadenfreude because the Left perpetrated many injustices over the years with such obvious lies. Some might call it karma. I say they are reaping what they have sown.
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90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

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historian said:

Sad! WNBA source says league will not accept NBA players who now identify as brave women

https://notthebee.com/article/sad-wnba-says-it-will-not-accept-nba-players-who-now-identify-as-brave-women

It looks like the WNBA is trying to have it both ways. What a cowardly cop out!


I hope they follow through with a lawsuit like they said they would. Just to force the league to define a woman and put this silly trans stuff to rest.


It's his time. The proof falls on Kanter and White. They have to prove they are women. WNBA doesn't have to prove they are men.

I hope it's a jury trial and you're on the jury. I'd love to see you prestle up to say those dudes are girls.

Those would be some big ass women.

Is it necessarily on Kanter and White to prove they are women? I honestly don't know if that's true. New York State for example has laws protecting gender expression

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/S1047

Without anything specific in place, laws in more liberal states have pretty, well, liberal definitions of who can describe themselves as a woman.

A court case limiting Kanter's and White's self-identity could potentially set a precedent that supporters of the trans community might actually not be in favor of.

It's real hard to prove or disprove you are a woman when the WNBA refuses to define what a woman is. If they refuse to have a specific definition then anybody can legitimately claim womanhood, like plenty of other fools have done and gotten away with it.
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I'm reminded of the King of the Hill episode when Dale applied to work at Hooters with the grand plan of suing them for discrimination when he was inevitably (or so he thought) not hired. Instead, they hired him and he went to work there eventually and hilariously strongly aligning with his female coworkers against his objectifying customers. Good on Hooters in the episode for hiring him. He thought he had them in a quandary, but nope.

The WNBA could deal with this in one of two ways. If they really believe that trans women are women and double down on that stance, let them declare and play. Everyone on the planet knows both these guys are good enough to play in that league. Or, they could do what they should do and actually provide a scientific definition of what a women is and this all goes away instantly and honestly, everyone wins. The league wins by clearly defining their parameters, ending the charade and protecting women's sports in the process, something they should wholeheartedly be all about. Kanter and White win because they got what they wanted too which is to force the league to actually play their hand.

They're in this situation because the virtue signaling on a topic that could very much impact or even spell the demise of their league in the future is more important than actual protecting the women they actually represent.

Despite all the back and forth on this thread, there was one post a page back that really encapsulates how we go here. How can you determine who is eligible if you can't define "woman?" Honestly, a lot of this nonsense goes back to the Kentaji Brown hearing where she refused to give a definition declaring, "I'm not a biologist." That was when the "what is a woman" debate really took hold at a prominent national level. If we have to agree that Elliott Page is a man, and Dylan Mulvaney is a man, and Lea Thomas is a woman, then Kanter and White have to be extended the same acceptance or it gives the lie to the whole house of cards.
Sic Everyone.
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Dylan Mulvaney actually is a man, at least biologically (although he is less masculine than Tim Walz). I'm sure you meant "woman" and the point is well made.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

What tort has been committed?
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GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

What tort has been committed?


He (they) have caused intentional reputational (defamation) harm to the WNBA.

He knows he is not a woman. He continues to falsely affirm he will declare for the draft at their expense.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.
Danielsjackson114
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DAMN WE STILL HAVE BRAIN DEAD LIBERALS STILL TRYING TO DEFEND COMPLETE AND UTTER LUNACY
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Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

What tort has been committed?


He (they) have caused intentional reputational (defamation) harm to the WNBA.

He knows he is not a woman. He continues to falsely affirm he will declare for the draft at their expense.

Again, the left has said over and over that anyone who claims they are a woman is a woman.

So you claim that is not true.

But that is not what the left says.

So now the WNBA has to define woman otherwise anyone claiming to be a woman can declare and ENTER the draft.
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

LOL.

Yes they do. To define him as a man means they have to define what a man is..... which means they have to define what the opposite is... hence a woman.

You cannot define one and not the other.

It is the same argument that has existed for 50 years (roughly) about abortion about when life begins. By defining life it is essentially defining what not alive means/what is a clump of a cells and what is a living being.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

What tort has been committed?


He (they) have caused intentional reputational (defamation) harm to the WNBA.

He knows he is not a woman. He continues to falsely affirm he will declare for the draft at their expense.

Defamation requires a false statement and the statement must be sufficiently factual to be susceptible of being proved objectively true or false as contrasted from a purely subjective assertion.

If the league cannot define a woman, league cannot prove their declarations objectively true or false.

Case dismissed.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

Stop playing lawyer.

If the WNBA wanted to be a basketball league, it would focus on basketball and not politics.
Danielsjackson114
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Dude is just digging his own grave
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I'm pretty sure he's trolling y'all
Danielsjackson114
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That's all you can do with a indefensible position

Flunaticbear like the argue the same way knowing he is going to take an L
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cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

LOL.

Yes they do. To define him as a man means they have to define what a man is..... which means they have to define what the opposite is... hence a woman.

You cannot define one and not the other.

It is the same argument that has existed for 50 years (roughly) about abortion about when life begins. By defining life it is essentially defining what not alive means/what is a clump of a cells and what is a living being.


They don't have to define him as a man. He is a man. And he's trolling their league causing harm.

All the machinations don't change that. What you trying to do is have it both ways. You know he's a man. I know he's a man. I don't think it's hard to find 12 others to know that's a man.

You want a jury to delve into the troll. They won't. As Aerosmith said "Dude looks like a dude".

That's true regardless of all the nuances the internet tries to present.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

LOL.

Yes they do. To define him as a man means they have to define what a man is..... which means they have to define what the opposite is... hence a woman.

You cannot define one and not the other.

It is the same argument that has existed for 50 years (roughly) about abortion about when life begins. By defining life it is essentially defining what not alive means/what is a clump of a cells and what is a living being.


They don't have to define him as a man. He is a man. And he's trolling their league causing harm.

All the machinations don't change that. What you trying to do is have it both ways. You know he's a man. I know he's a man. I don't think it's hard to find 12 others to know that's a man.

You want a jury to delve into the troll. They won't. As Aerosmith said "Dude looks like a dude".

That's true regardless of all the nuances the internet tries to present.


You sort of gloss over the fact you cannot define what is a man or what is a woman. You claim she's trolling but as usual you have zero evidence.
historian
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The WNBA caused that damage themselves with their aversion to truth and their misogyny.
historian
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The WNBA cannot prove that Kanter & White are men without defining "man" and "woman".
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Quite possible!
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

LOL.

Yes they do. To define him as a man means they have to define what a man is..... which means they have to define what the opposite is... hence a woman.

You cannot define one and not the other.

It is the same argument that has existed for 50 years (roughly) about abortion about when life begins. By defining life it is essentially defining what not alive means/what is a clump of a cells and what is a living being.


They don't have to define him as a man. He is a man. And he's trolling their league causing harm.

All the machinations don't change that. What you trying to do is have it both ways. You know he's a man. I know he's a man. I don't think it's hard to find 12 others to know that's a man.

You want a jury to delve into the troll. They won't. As Aerosmith said "Dude looks like a dude".

That's true regardless of all the nuances the internet tries to present.

You haven't seen White all dolled up. WNBA preserve your records!

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/preserve-records-royce-white-lawyer-163025276.html

The heated trans-athlete debate continues to swarm the WNBA. In a season that had the potential to show growth in league support, criticism has taken over.

After former NBA players Enes Kanter and Royce White announced that they identify as women, the duo declared intentions to enter the 2027 WNBA draft.

Their efforts were to challenge the league's current eligibility rules, but this stunt has raised even more questions than before.

Royce White's Lawyer Slaps WNBA With Litigation Threat
As reported by lawyer and former U.S. representative Matt Gaetz via X, the WNBA has yet to decide on White's draft eligibility.

"The @WNBA has not notified Royce White or our legal team of any decision on draft eligibility, as is their standard practice and policy," he wrote. "The WNBA should preserve all records in anticipation of litigation."


The intensifying debate in the WNBA was sparked by Sophie Cunningham expressing her opinion on the matter.

Back in July, per Hallie Grossman of ESPN, the Indiana Fever guard stated, "I think that I am here to extend love. But I also think with that love is truth, being honest. And I want to protect young girls in a locker room, or young girls in sport who shouldn't have to go against biological men."

As for White's dilemma, many are calling his situation a publicity stunt. However, it does point to potential loopholes within the league that need clarity. The whole premise of the argument is whether athletes assigned male at birth who later transition should be able to participate in women's sports.

However, there are some gray areas; the league does not go into detail about gender identity, nor does it provide strict guidelines.

White, now 35, played in the NBA for one season. He was a forward for the Sacramento Kings and appeared in three games. Instead of being known for his basketball career, he is now known for his controversial stunt.


This is only the beginning of a long-standing debate in the WNBA and women's professional sports across the board. But the debate doesn't end there it has remained a hot topic in high school and college sports over the years.

The WNBA isn't alone in the chaos, but this particular quarrel has sparked more outrage among fans than it has in the past. Until clear guidelines are put into place, fans shouldn't expect this debate to be put to rest quickly.
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WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER GO WOKE GO BROKE EXAMPLE # 976764
historian
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Nobody is "assigned a sex at birth". They are born either male or female. That's it. This is reality and "reality is not optional."
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Gender is determined at the exact moment of conception.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

90sBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8vdhxPq/

As this person has XY chromosomes and has an SRY gene, this makes them genetically male.

As such they should not be eligible to compete as a woman in any organization that divides men and women and has a strict definition of what a woman is.

Does that suck for that person? Yes!

Does it make me want to change my views on fair play and athletics opportunities for women? Absolutely not.


That's my definition of why White and Kanter can't play in WNBA.

That they have XY chromosomes and an SRY gene? Awesome. Now just get the WNBA to officially adopt that policy and all of this will go away.


The CBA doesn't have ambiguity. It clearly states only women are eligible to play in the WNBA. Not identify as women.

This is all performative garbage. I'm mad for the WNBA. I hope they sue White and Kanter.

To sue they have to define what a woman is.

Then again even if they did they would have to show that these two have done something worthy of suing over, which they have not.


They don't. They have to show he is man AND has caused them harm for his benefit.

He had to show he believes himself to be a woman and his actions were based on that belief. We know that isn't true.

You're arguing the "culture war" argument. WNBA hasn't agreed to any of the culture arguments. They're a basketball league.

LOL.

Yes they do. To define him as a man means they have to define what a man is..... which means they have to define what the opposite is... hence a woman.

You cannot define one and not the other.

It is the same argument that has existed for 50 years (roughly) about abortion about when life begins. By defining life it is essentially defining what not alive means/what is a clump of a cells and what is a living being.


They don't have to define him as a man. He is a man. And he's trolling their league causing harm.

All the machinations don't change that. What you trying to do is have it both ways. You know he's a man. I know he's a man. I don't think it's hard to find 12 others to know that's a man.

You want a jury to delve into the troll. They won't. As Aerosmith said "Dude looks like a dude".

That's true regardless of all the nuances the internet tries to present.

The fact that you're going to run and hide just gives truth to the lie ... here are specifics you and other regressives always from because it actually requires brain power ....

1. How do you know he is a man? What is the definition?
2. Why do you know he's trolling? What determines if one of these trainies is trolling or not?
3. What does "looks like a dude" mean? Is that a standard for determining what trainey is legit or not?

We know you cannot answer and no matter how many times your crap is exposed you still will live in make-believe land.
 
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