Somebody get POTUS a Constitution.

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bubbadog
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Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Somehow, it's reassuring to see that you have extended your impeccable track record of not knowing what the **** you're talking about.
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
fadskier
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Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
CNN doesn't get it

https://www.dailywire.com/news/30490/watch-cnn-attacks-trump-he-greets-freed-american-ryan-saavedra
Booray
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Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
fadskier
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Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.

riflebear
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Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
LOL - 3 of the 4 things you mention are literally false. Again, u all need to quit watching MSNBC & CNN.

Oh, and please list what the other 1000 things have been?

And lets not get into what Obama & Hillary lied about or we will be here all day.
J.R.
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Booray said:

Trump is just trolling us again. His worst nightmare is the day CNN/MSNBC/MSM stops paying attention to him.

As to the constitutional question, I would guess this would be the argument: There is likely no right of access to the White House in a general sense, otherwise every two-bit reporter from Peoria can come to the press briefing. Instead, it is a privilege to have WH press credentials. Once the government undertakes to provide a privilege, however, due process and equal protection compel the government to distribute the limited credentials on a rational basis. Eliminating a media organization based solely on the organization's perceived political bias is not a rational basis for making the selection of who gets in and who does not.
Sorry, pal. make too much sense. get that out of here
fadskier
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riflebear said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
LOL - 3 of the 4 things you mention are literally false. Again, u all need to quit watching MSNBC & CNN.

Oh, and please list what the other 1000 things have been?

And lets not get into what Obama & Hillary lied about or we will be here all day.
Rifle with the touchdown!
bubbadog
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fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
Booray
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riflebear said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
LOL - 3 of the 4 things you mention are literally false. Again, u all need to quit watching MSNBC & CNN.

Oh, and please list what the other 1000 things have been?

And lets not get into what Obama & Hillary lied about or we will be here all day.
Which 3?
Canada2017
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J.R. said:

Canada2017 said:

J.R. said:

fadskier said:

quash said:

His attacks on the media, and threats to revoke credentials are counter to the First Amendment.

Some in the media think tbey have more First Amendment rights than individuals. They're wrong. But these authoritarian attacks on our civic institutions are damaging to democracy.
The media does not have a right to attend a press conference or enter the White House.
Stalin says hi. This guy is out of control.


( sigh ) How old are you ?

Stalin executed hundreds of thousands of his own people while his collective farm policy resulted in the starvation of millions more.

Trump has merely 'triggered' a few of the 'sacred' members of the press who have been bashing him viciously since he entered the Republican primary .
52... you



62 .....wondering why a 52 year old uses ridiculous hyperbole on a regular basis .
fadskier
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bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
fadskier
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bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Serious question. Was Obama lying when he to,d us that we could keep our doctor?
bubbadog
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fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
fadskier
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bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
Yes, he initially said that. It was later clarified. In your reasoning, anyone who ever clarified or changes an original statement, is lying. That's fine for you. I'm more forgiving.
J.R.
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Canada2017 said:

J.R. said:

Canada2017 said:

J.R. said:

fadskier said:

quash said:

His attacks on the media, and threats to revoke credentials are counter to the First Amendment.

Some in the media think tbey have more First Amendment rights than individuals. They're wrong. But these authoritarian attacks on our civic institutions are damaging to democracy.
The media does not have a right to attend a press conference or enter the White House.
Stalin says hi. This guy is out of control.


( sigh ) How old are you ?

Stalin executed hundreds of thousands of his own people while his collective farm policy resulted in the starvation of millions more.

Trump has merely 'triggered' a few of the 'sacred' members of the press who have been bashing him viciously since he entered the Republican primary .
52... you



62 .....wondering why a 52 year old uses ridiculous hyperbole on a regular basis .
wondering why a carpet bagger Aggie isn't smarter.
bubbadog
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fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
Yes, he initially said that. It was later clarified. In your reasoning, anyone who ever clarified or changes an original statement, is lying. That's fine for you. I'm more forgiving.
Yeah, they "clarified" it, in an act of damage control, after two days of doubling down on the lie. It wasn't like clarifying one misstatement. It became a story because Trump kept repeating it and then made Sean Spicer go out and make a big deal out of it. By then, the damage was already done, and everyone who didn't have his head up Trump's ass saw the "clarification" for what it was. Where is your head these days?
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bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

:enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
Yes, he initially said that. It was later clarified. In your reasoning, anyone who ever clarified or changes an original statement, is lying. That's fine for you. I'm more forgiving.
Yeah, they "clarified" it, in an act of damage control, after two days of doubling down on the lie. It wasn't like clarifying one misstatement. It became a story because Trump kept repeating it and then made Sean Spicer go out and make a big deal out of it. By then, the damage was already done, and everyone who didn't have his head up Trump's ass saw the "clarification" for what it was. Where is your head these days?
Did Obama lie when he said we could keep our doctor?


Damage? Even if he did lie about crowd size, who cares? It's not like it was about emails, Benghazi, wire tapping, IRS targeting or keeping doctors.
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Some of you are just amazing. Is there anything that you won't complain about when it comes to Trump? This is the equivalent of a 6 year-old constantly running into the street, and her mom saying, "What do I have to do to keep you from running in the street, lock you in your room?" She's not going to lock the kid in the room. Trump is just saying, "What do I have to do to get you to act like a professional journalist? Take away your White House credentials?" He's not threatening to suspend the First Amendment. Holy cripes! He just wants to stop having to tell kids to quit running into the street when they should know better by now.

This, "Oh my God! Trump wants to end First Amendment rights!" is exactly the crap he is complaining about. Get a grip and be an adult.
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fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

:enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
Yes, he initially said that. It was later clarified. In your reasoning, anyone who ever clarified or changes an original statement, is lying. That's fine for you. I'm more forgiving.
Yeah, they "clarified" it, in an act of damage control, after two days of doubling down on the lie. It wasn't like clarifying one misstatement. It became a story because Trump kept repeating it and then made Sean Spicer go out and make a big deal out of it. By then, the damage was already done, and everyone who didn't have his head up Trump's ass saw the "clarification" for what it was. Where is your head these days?
Did Obama lie when he said we could keep our doctor?


Damage? Even if he did lie about crowd size, who cares? It's not like it was about emails, Benghazi, wire tapping, IRS targeting or keeping doctors.
There's no real point in trying to argue an issue with someone who's always going to play their whataboutism card.

But you know one thing about playing the whataboutism card: It means you're conceding that the guy whose behavior you attack is no better than the guy whose behavior you're defending.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/justice-departments-scrutiny-of-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-in-leak-case-draws-fire/2013/05/20/c6289eba-c162-11e2-8bd8-2788030e6b44_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c574d11162b6

Justice Department's scrutiny of Fox News reporter James Rosen in leak case draws fire
Journalists, First Amendment watchdogs and government transparency advocates reacted with outrage Monday to the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks.

Critics said the government's suggestion that James Rosen, Fox News's chief Washington correspondent, was a "co-conspirator" for soliciting classified information threatened to criminalize press freedoms protected by the First Amendment. Others also suggested that the Justice Department's claim in pursuing an alleged leak from the State Department was little more than pretext to seize his e-mails to build their case against the suspected leaker.

"It is downright chilling," Fox News executive Michael Clemente said in a statement. "We will unequivocally defend [Rosen's] right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, said, "Asking for information has never been deemed a crime."

The reactions followed a Washington Post report on the inner workings of a Justice Department investigation into a possible leak of classified information about North Korea.

The case centers on Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former State Department arms expert accused of passing details to Rosen from a classified report within hours of its release to a small circle within the intelligence community. Investigators also targeted Rosen, calling him a co-conspirator in an affidavit seeking a search warrant for Rosen's personal e-mails.

In the affidavit, FBI agent Reginald Reyes said Rosen "asked, solicited and encouraged Mr. Kim to disclose sensitive United States internal documents and intelligence information." He added, "The reporter did so by employing flattery and playing to Mr. Kim's vanity and ego."

That detail particularly irked media lawyers and transparency experts, who said the Justice Department had crossed a line by equating routine reporting practices with possible criminal activity.

"Neither flattery nor an insistent tone rises to the level of a criminal offense," Aftergood said.

Investigators pulled Rosen's security badge records, phone logs and his personal e-mails, but they never charged him with a crime. No reporter has ever been prosecuted for seeking classified information.

Kim was accused in 2010 of disclosing national defense information; his trial could begin in 2014.

In response to questions about how Rosen was characterized in the affidavit, the Justice Department said in a statement Monday: "Saying that there is probable cause to believe that someone has committed a crime and charging the person with that crime are two different things."

"No reporter has been charged in this case," the statement added. "And, at this time we do not anticipate bringing additional charges against anyone."

The investigation brought another controversy to the doorstep of the White House, where press secretary Jay Carney on Monday was besieged during his daily briefing with questions on whether President Obama believes it is ever a crime for reporters to solicit information from a source.

The Obama administration has pursued more leak investigations under the 1917 Espionage Act than all previous administrations combined; it was criticized last week by the Associated Press for a sweeping search of the news agency's phone records as part of one ongoing probe. The case against Kim does not include allegations of spying or that he gave any documents to the media. It appears to charge him for having conversations with reporters, something his attorneys have said was part of his job and part of the normal course of business in Washington.

Citing the ongoing criminal investigation, Carney refused to answer most questions about the Kim case. He said that the president "believes very strongly in the need for reporters to be able to pursue investigative journalism" but that he "also has to be mindful of the need to protect classified information because of our national security interests."

First Amendment advocates are closely watching whether the government will prosecute the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks as a co-conspirator in the case of Army Pfc. Bradley Manning. The case, advocates say, could set a dangerous precedent that applies to mainstream media outlets and potentially criminalizes the practice of investigative journalism. Manning, who is facing a court-martial in connection with the leaking of 700,000 documents and other materials to WikiLeaks, pleaded guilty this year.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. told the House Judiciary Committee last week that prosecuting the press for disclosing classified material is not "wise policy."

"The focus should be on those people who break their oath and put the American people at risk, not the reporters who gather the information," he said in response to questions about the investigation involving the AP, which reported on a foiled plot involving the al-Qaeda affiliate in Yemen.

The office of the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Ronald Machen, who is involved in both the AP and Kim cases, said it had "exhausted all non-media alternatives for collecting this evidence" before seeking Rosen's personal e-mails.

A U.S. magistrate judge, Alan Kay, signed off on the search for two days' worth of Rosen's personal e-mails and all of his correspondence with Kim in May 2010. The warrant was unsealed in 2011, but a Fox executive confirmed that the network was not aware of the characterization of Rosen as a co-conspirator until Monday.

The Justice Department was not required to inform Rosen that his personal e-mails would be seized, according to an opinion by U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth in 2010.

Brit Hume, a senior political analyst on Fox, said on the air Monday that the Justice Department had crossed a "clear bright line" when it seized the records on what he called "the pretext that this activity was criminal."

"The Obama-Holder Justice Department is now prepared to treat the ordinary newsgathering activities of reporters, trying to seek information from government officials, as a possible crime," he said. "I can't think of a case in which that's happened before."
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bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

bubbadog said:

fadskier said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

bubbadog said:

:enying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.
Might as well call CNN 'Redacted news network' or 'Clinton News network'. The media is the enemy of the people. Left news especially tries to make people feel like victims and all conservatives look like backwoods bible thumpers who hate everyone.

Studies show most news is 90% negative towards Trump.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/8/donald-trumps-polls-improve-despite-90-negative-co/
Its not left/right; this is a war between the media and a personality. That personality has a propensity to lie in ways that the press is not use to. So Trump lies about the size of inauguration crowd; the illegal votes cast against him; Obama bugging Trump Tower; paying off a porn star and literally 1,000 other things. The press reports the fact that it was a lie. Trump complains about negative press coverage.

Maybe if he did not publicly lie all the time, his press coverage would be more favorable?
inauguration crowd? That was explained but the press can't let go. Apparently, Obama did bug Trump Tower (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-04-way-beyond-watergate-obama-bugged-trump-tower.html#) Maybe if the press didn't try to convince everyone that everything is a lie, they would be believed more.

Watch this, it might help.


You post a story from some jackleg source called naturalnews.com and then complain about unprofessional, unaccountable media? That's a strong effort, but you're gonna have to come stronger than that if you're gonna break my Florida Mike-grade Iron-o-Meter.

Inaugural crowd? Yes, it was explained to the satisfaction of people who would invest in a degree from Trump University. To a person capable of looking clear-eyed at the evidence? Not so much. The crowd was smaller. It wouldn't have been a big deal at all except that Trump made it one by repeatedly lying about it and insisting that his press secretary lie about it. He just couldn't admit to himself or anyone else that Obama's was bigger.

When a guy feels compelled in a national candidate debate to respond to an opponent's insinuation that his dick is small by saying his dick isn't small, you can reliably bet your paycheck that his dick is small.
Obama's was not bigger. Trump had the most watched inauguration.
Most viewers on TV isn't remotely the same as the inaugural crowd, nor would any reasonable person believe so. The argument wasn't whether Trump had more viewers. And that wasn't what Trump initially claimed, either. He claimed that the crowd physically on the Washington Mall was bigger. It clearly was not.
Yes, he initially said that. It was later clarified. In your reasoning, anyone who ever clarified or changes an original statement, is lying. That's fine for you. I'm more forgiving.
Yeah, they "clarified" it, in an act of damage control, after two days of doubling down on the lie. It wasn't like clarifying one misstatement. It became a story because Trump kept repeating it and then made Sean Spicer go out and make a big deal out of it. By then, the damage was already done, and everyone who didn't have his head up Trump's ass saw the "clarification" for what it was. Where is your head these days?
Did Obama lie when he said we could keep our doctor?


Damage? Even if he did lie about crowd size, who cares? It's not like it was about emails, Benghazi, wire tapping, IRS targeting or keeping doctors.
There's no real point in trying to argue an issue with someone who's always going to play their whataboutism card.

But you know one thing about playing the whataboutism card: It means you're conceding that the guy whose behavior you attack is no better than the guy whose behavior you're defending.
No, my question is sincere. I don't think Obama was lying. What do you think?

Btw whataboutism is a weak and loser argument .
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J.R. said:

Booray said:

Trump is just trolling us again. His worst nightmare is the day CNN/MSNBC/MSM stops paying attention to him.

As to the constitutional question, I would guess this would be the argument: There is likely no right of access to the White House in a general sense, otherwise every two-bit reporter from Peoria can come to the press briefing. Instead, it is a privilege to have WH press credentials. Once the government undertakes to provide a privilege, however, due process and equal protection compel the government to distribute the limited credentials on a rational basis. Eliminating a media organization based solely on the organization's perceived political bias is not a rational basis for making the selection of who gets in and who does not.
Sorry, pal. make too much sense. get that out of here

Except that is what every single administration has done since there has been a press corps.
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Malbec said:

J.R. said:

Booray said:

Trump is just trolling us again. His worst nightmare is the day CNN/MSNBC/MSM stops paying attention to him.

As to the constitutional question, I would guess this would be the argument: There is likely no right of access to the White House in a general sense, otherwise every two-bit reporter from Peoria can come to the press briefing. Instead, it is a privilege to have WH press credentials. Once the government undertakes to provide a privilege, however, due process and equal protection compel the government to distribute the limited credentials on a rational basis. Eliminating a media organization based solely on the organization's perceived political bias is not a rational basis for making the selection of who gets in and who does not.
Sorry, pal. make too much sense. get that out of here

Except that is what every single administration has done since there has been a press corps.


Was not aware of that. I am talking about official White House press credentials. How did the Clinton administration change the way it gave out those credentials; what about 41 & 43?
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Booray said:

Malbec said:

J.R. said:

Booray said:

Trump is just trolling us again. His worst nightmare is the day CNN/MSNBC/MSM stops paying attention to him.

As to the constitutional question, I would guess this would be the argument: There is likely no right of access to the White House in a general sense, otherwise every two-bit reporter from Peoria can come to the press briefing. Instead, it is a privilege to have WH press credentials. Once the government undertakes to provide a privilege, however, due process and equal protection compel the government to distribute the limited credentials on a rational basis. Eliminating a media organization based solely on the organization's perceived political bias is not a rational basis for making the selection of who gets in and who does not.
Sorry, pal. make too much sense. get that out of here

Except that is what every single administration has done since there has been a press corps.


Was not aware of that. I am talking about official White House press credentials. How did the Clinton administration change the way it gave out those credentials; what about 41 & 43?
Yeah, they've all played games with the press corps. Whether it was with access, positioning, priority, notification and the like. Friendlies got the perks, hostiles got frostbite.
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Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.

Agreed. Add his tax threats to Amazon because Bezos owns media.
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Some of you are just amazing. Is there anything that you won't complain about when it comes to Trump? This is the equivalent of a 6 year-old constantly running into the street, and her mom saying, "What do I have to do to keep you from running in the street, lock you in your room?" She's not going to lock the kid in the room. Trump is just saying, "What do I have to do to get you to act like a professional journalist? Take away your White House credentials?" He's not threatening to suspend the First Amendment. Holy cripes! He just wants to stop having to tell kids to quit running into the street when they should know better by now.

This, "Oh my God! Trump wants to end First Amendment rights!" is exactly the crap he is complaining about. Get a grip and be an adult.

I never said his actions were unconstitutional.

Trump's authoritarian attacks on the press are damaging to our country. A better understanding of the First Amendment would go a long way.

Add the threats to change libel laws. Of course to Trump any criticism is libelous.
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Oh look another thread by quash bashing trump.... but he called me a liar for saying he does this....

Cue a personal attack from q in 3, 2, 1.....
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He is incredibly weak. He is a threat to nothing.
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quash said:

Malbec said:

Some of you are just amazing. Is there anything that you won't complain about when it comes to Trump? This is the equivalent of a 6 year-old constantly running into the street, and her mom saying, "What do I have to do to keep you from running in the street, lock you in your room?" She's not going to lock the kid in the room. Trump is just saying, "What do I have to do to get you to act like a professional journalist? Take away your White House credentials?" He's not threatening to suspend the First Amendment. Holy cripes! He just wants to stop having to tell kids to quit running into the street when they should know better by now.

This, "Oh my God! Trump wants to end First Amendment rights!" is exactly the crap he is complaining about. Get a grip and be an adult.

I never said his actions were unconstitutional.

Trump's authoritarian attacks on the press are damaging to our country. A better understanding of the First Amendment would go a long way.

Add the threats to change libel laws. Of course to Trump any criticism is libelous.


Umm have you checked the fairness of the press to Trump and anything to do with republicans?

What about Trump and other republicans 1st Amendment rights to free speech? Can't give rights only to a leftist dominated press and not give it to republicans in order to defend themselves from the abuse!

Grow some
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quash said:

Malbec said:

Some of you are just amazing. Is there anything that you won't complain about when it comes to Trump? This is the equivalent of a 6 year-old constantly running into the street, and her mom saying, "What do I have to do to keep you from running in the street, lock you in your room?" She's not going to lock the kid in the room. Trump is just saying, "What do I have to do to get you to act like a professional journalist? Take away your White House credentials?" He's not threatening to suspend the First Amendment. Holy cripes! He just wants to stop having to tell kids to quit running into the street when they should know better by now.

This, "Oh my God! Trump wants to end First Amendment rights!" is exactly the crap he is complaining about. Get a grip and be an adult.

I never said his actions were unconstitutional.

Trump's authoritarian attacks on the press are damaging to our country. A better understanding of the First Amendment would go a long way.

Add the threats to change libel laws. Of course to Trump any criticism is libelous.
What?

"His attacks on the media, and threats to revoke credentials are counter to the First Amendment."

"counter to the First Amendment" is the very definition of unconstitutional. Hell, the very title that you used for the thread suggests that you think he is acting in an unconstitutional manner. Come on man, at least stand up and own the trash in your can. Libertarian my rear...web feet, quacking, bill, waddling, feathers...I say duck.
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Malbec said:

Booray said:

Malbec said:

J.R. said:

Booray said:

Trump is just trolling us again. His worst nightmare is the day CNN/MSNBC/MSM stops paying attention to him.

As to the constitutional question, I would guess this would be the argument: There is likely no right of access to the White House in a general sense, otherwise every two-bit reporter from Peoria can come to the press briefing. Instead, it is a privilege to have WH press credentials. Once the government undertakes to provide a privilege, however, due process and equal protection compel the government to distribute the limited credentials on a rational basis. Eliminating a media organization based solely on the organization's perceived political bias is not a rational basis for making the selection of who gets in and who does not.
Sorry, pal. make too much sense. get that out of here

Except that is what every single administration has done since there has been a press corps.


Was not aware of that. I am talking about official White House press credentials. How did the Clinton administration change the way it gave out those credentials; what about 41 & 43?
Yeah, they've all played games with the press corps. Whether it was with access, positioning, priority, notification and the like. Friendlies got the perks, hostiles got frostbite.
Presidents have played favorites. Denying credentials? No.

And I agree it's not unconstitutional.

The problem is not the press briefings or interviews. It's that Trump thinks exists to serve him. Every president I remember since JFK has experienced frustration with the media. Only Trump calls them the enemy of the state.
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
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quash said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.

Agreed. Add his tax threats to Amazon because Bezos owns media.
Yes. He's a bully. And most bullies are chicken****s at heart.
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bubbadog said:

quash said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.

Agreed. Add his tax threats to Amazon because Bezos owns media.
Yes. He's a bully. And most bullies are chicken****s at heart.


Yeah he's 70 and he could probably still kick both your arse simultaneously
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Florda_mike said:

bubbadog said:

quash said:

bubbadog said:

Denying certain media outlets access to press conferences actually bothers me much less than Trump's demagogic attempts to claim that the press is the "enemy of the people." Trump is not even subtle. He loves any media that give him glowing press (Fox & Friends, Hannity); anyone who does straight-up, unbiased reporting that is unfavorable to him is an enemy of the people. And there are still millions of people who he knows he can count on to lap up his bull***** In the, I think that's more dangerous than the lack of access for certain media. The daily press briefings are pretty much useless.

Agreed. Add his tax threats to Amazon because Bezos owns media.
Yes. He's a bully. And most bullies are chicken****s at heart.


Yeah he's 70 and he could probably still kick both your arse simultaneously
He can't even make his wife hold his hand.
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
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fadskier said:

J.R. said:

fadskier said:

quash said:

His attacks on the media, and threats to revoke credentials are counter to the First Amendment.

Some in the media think tbey have more First Amendment rights than individuals. They're wrong. But these authoritarian attacks on our civic institutions are damaging to democracy.
The media does not have a right to attend a press conference or enter the White House.
Stalin says hi. This guy is out of control.
That's just a stupid comparison. Show me where the Constitution states that reporters have a right to attend a press conference?
If reporters aren't there, than who are these "press conferences" for? When I go to baseball games, I expect to see baseball players there.
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