Why do you pray?

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Waco1947
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jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
See right there is the game. It's built in. God can't lose when the system is rigged no matter what.
It isn't about winning and losing. God doesn't play games.

Don't worry El. God is too loving to force you into his presence for eternity against your wishes.
Oh but it is--if I don't follow the rules--I lose my chance at eternity.

Let me ask you a serious, off topic question: when you die--where do you go? Are you immediately called up to heaven or do you have to linger in the ground for the rapture?
Again, God will not force you to be with him for eternity. There are no rules to follow. You simply have to decide that you want to spend eternity with God.

I do not know if I go straight there or not. I also don't care. It doesn't matter to me at all because I get to spen eternity with my FATHER. Humans care about time and space. When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.

God does not force you but there is hell to pay if you don't. Pun intended
jstins
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TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
Where is your evidence of this extraordinary claim?
I have already given an example of evidence. My evidence has been replicated millions of times all over the world.


Where is your evidence for dark matter?
I guess I missed your posted evidence. Please redirect me.

Observed structures formed within the universe are more advanced than would be without the gravitational effects dark matter.
Optical observations of X-ray emission and gravitational lensing in colliding galaxies indicates the presence of dark matter.
Rotation velocity of stars near the center to the outer edges of galaxies are essentially constant.
The amount of baryonic matter observed in the universe is not sufficient to account for the observed effects of gravity.
Observations of dense regions in the Cosmic Microwave Background indicates the presence of dark matter.

Evidence of dark matter is observed. Evidence for answered prayer is anecdotal.
I watched the same BS TV swoh about dark matter you did. "I can't explain something so it has to be dark matter." It takes more faith to believe in dark matter than it does to believe in God. Science contradicts itself all the time, but I guess you already know that.
jstins
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TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:



I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
See right there is the game. It's built in. God can't lose when the system is rigged no matter what.
It isn't about winning and losing. God doesn't play games.

Don't worry El. God is too loving to force you into his presence for eternity against your wishes.
Oh but it is--if I don't follow the rules--I lose my chance at eternity.

Let me ask you a serious, off topic question: when you die--where do you go? Are you immediately called up to heaven or do you have to linger in the ground for the rapture?
Again, God will not force you to be with him for eternity. There are no rules to follow. You simply have to decide that you want to spend eternity with God.

I do not know if I go straight there or not. I also don't care. It doesn't matter to me at all because I get to spen eternity with my FATHER. Humans care about time and space. When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.

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When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.
You got that part right. Make your mark for good while you can, because our time is limited.
What is "good"?
noun
[ol]
1. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil"synonyms:virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude[/ol][ol]
2. benefit or advantage to someone or something."he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind"synonyms:benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being[/ol]
What it "morally right"?
1. The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
2. A system or collection of ideas of right and wrong conduct
3. Virtuous conduct:
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character
What is the standard you judge right, good, or moral against?

There is no morallity without God.
bubbadog
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jstins said:

What is the standard you judge right, good, or moral against?

There is no morallity without God.
Would you consider Buddhists to be amoral?
"Free your ass and your mind will follow." -- George Clinton
TexasScientist
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jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:



I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
See right there is the game. It's built in. God can't lose when the system is rigged no matter what.
It isn't about winning and losing. God doesn't play games.

Don't worry El. God is too loving to force you into his presence for eternity against your wishes.
Oh but it is--if I don't follow the rules--I lose my chance at eternity.

Let me ask you a serious, off topic question: when you die--where do you go? Are you immediately called up to heaven or do you have to linger in the ground for the rapture?
Again, God will not force you to be with him for eternity. There are no rules to follow. You simply have to decide that you want to spend eternity with God.

I do not know if I go straight there or not. I also don't care. It doesn't matter to me at all because I get to spen eternity with my FATHER. Humans care about time and space. When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.

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When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.
You got that part right. Make your mark for good while you can, because our time is limited.
What is "good"?
noun
[ol]
1. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil"synonyms:virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude[/ol][ol]
2. benefit or advantage to someone or something."he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind"synonyms:benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being[/ol]
What it "morally right"?
1. The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
2. A system or collection of ideas of right and wrong conduct
3. Virtuous conduct:
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character
What is the standard you judge right, good, or moral against?

There is no morallity without God.
The Golden Rule is a good start.
Sure there is morality without God. The basic laws of our country our rooted in the morals of our society. God's laws are hardly a testament to morality - just read the laws given by Moses from "God."
All societies determine what they deem as moral and acceptable behavior, whether it is based upon humanistic or religious values.
TexasScientist
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jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
Where is your evidence of this extraordinary claim?
I have already given an example of evidence. My evidence has been replicated millions of times all over the world.


Where is your evidence for dark matter?
I guess I missed your posted evidence. Please redirect me.

Observed structures formed within the universe are more advanced than would be without the gravitational effects dark matter.
Optical observations of X-ray emission and gravitational lensing in colliding galaxies indicates the presence of dark matter.
Rotation velocity of stars near the center to the outer edges of galaxies are essentially constant.
The amount of baryonic matter observed in the universe is not sufficient to account for the observed effects of gravity.
Observations of dense regions in the Cosmic Microwave Background indicates the presence of dark matter.

Evidence of dark matter is observed. Evidence for answered prayer is anecdotal.
I watched the same BS TV swoh about dark matter you did. "I can't explain something so it has to be dark matter." It takes more faith to believe in dark matter than it does to believe in God. Science contradicts itself all the time, but I guess you already know that.
I watch TV sometimes, but my profession requires that I read peer reviewed scientific publications. I can assure you there is more evidence of dark matter, than there is of God.
jstins
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TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

TexasScientist said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:

jstins said:

El Oso said:



I guess when you grow up doing it 5-10 times a day everyday--old habits die hard.

It doesn't work.

Let me amend that. It only works in the mind of the prayer--and if that's enough to get you through whatever you need it to get you through--then good for you.
God always answers all prayers. The answer may not be what you want it to be, but the answer will always glorify or strengthen HIS kingdom.
See right there is the game. It's built in. God can't lose when the system is rigged no matter what.
It isn't about winning and losing. God doesn't play games.

Don't worry El. God is too loving to force you into his presence for eternity against your wishes.
Oh but it is--if I don't follow the rules--I lose my chance at eternity.

Let me ask you a serious, off topic question: when you die--where do you go? Are you immediately called up to heaven or do you have to linger in the ground for the rapture?
Again, God will not force you to be with him for eternity. There are no rules to follow. You simply have to decide that you want to spend eternity with God.

I do not know if I go straight there or not. I also don't care. It doesn't matter to me at all because I get to spen eternity with my FATHER. Humans care about time and space. When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.

Quote:

When I die, I leave humanity behind and things like time no longer apply.
You got that part right. Make your mark for good while you can, because our time is limited.
What is "good"?
noun
[ol]
1. that which is morally right; righteousness."a mysterious balance of good and evil"synonyms:virtue, righteousness, goodness, morality, integrity, rectitude[/ol][ol]
2. benefit or advantage to someone or something."he convinces his father to use his genius for the good of mankind"synonyms:benefit, advantage, profit, gain, interest, welfare, well-being[/ol]
What it "morally right"?
1. The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
2. A system or collection of ideas of right and wrong conduct
3. Virtuous conduct:
1. conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct.
2. moral quality or character
What is the standard you judge right, good, or moral against?

There is no morallity without God.
The Golden Rule is a good start.
Sure there is morality without God. The basic laws of our country our rooted in the morals of our society. God's laws are hardly a testament to morality - just read the laws given by Moses from "God."
All societies determine what they deem as moral and acceptable behavior, whether it is based upon humanistic or religious values.
The golden rule is biblical. You speak in tautologies just like most astrophysicists.

I get it. You hate religion and are determined to let every Christian know that they are stupid. You are like that because for all of your book smarts, your social intelligence didn't evolve past junior high. One day you will realize that you are very very wrong, and I hope it is not to late.
fadskier
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I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.
cinque
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fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
fadskier
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cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...
cinque
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fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
fadskier
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cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?
Golem
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fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


I'll guess, Satan.
cinque
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fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
fadskier
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cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
Based on what? Who describes your observation as keen?
cinque
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fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
Based on what? Who describes your observation as keen?

I don't understand the question.
fadskier
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cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
Based on what? Who describes your observation as keen?

I don't understand the question.
I guess you're not that keen after all.
Coke Bear
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fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.
fadskier,

Let me back up the bus a bit on this one ... to answer your question, (If you're married with or without kids) I'll ask you to contemplate what your relationship would be like with them if you NEVER talked to them. Would your wife and kids know that you love them? Would they know if you cared about them? Would they know how your doing? How would your relationship with them be after a month of not talking to them? I can only assume that it would deteriorate quickly.

God wants us to pray to Him so that we can have a relationship with Him. He doesn't need us, but we need Him. He wants to hear from us in both good and bad times. We shouldn't treat Him like some divide sugar daddy that we only call when we need something. He wants us to have a relationship with Him.

That's why we should pray to Him.

We could get into the whole faith vs. works issue, but now doesn't seem like the right place. (I'll give you a hint, though, it's both.)
Sam Lowry
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TexasScientist said:


Which is more logical? Belief in something for which there is no objective empirical evidence, or disbelief in something for which there is no objective empirical evidence.
Logical reasoning always starts with a premise. What's logical depends on what your assumptions are. But if you don't recognize them as assumptions, you're just spinning your wheels.
cinque
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fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
Based on what? Who describes your observation as keen?

I don't understand the question.
I guess you're not that keen after all.

Could be. Especially when it comes to diciphering gibberish.
fadskier
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cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

cinque said:

fadskier said:

|I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.

Not a well developed credo for an adult.
Provide a better one...


It's not my place to craft a credo for you. My job is to observe that you don't have a well developed one.
Who appointed you in that position?


It's not an appointed position. The only requirement is to be a keen observer of credos.
Based on what? Who describes your observation as keen?

I don't understand the question.
I guess you're not that keen after all.

Could be. Especially when it comes to diciphering gibberish.
Trust me. You're not keen.
Waco1947
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fadskier said:

I pray that God will accept me into Heaven. I became a Christian in 5th grade at a revival...I did it as an insurance policy against hell and have never really gotten away from that feeling. I'm sure prayer works, but if God is going to do what He's going to do...why should I pray about it?

I just hope I have the faith to get in.
Probably one of the most honest answers on this thread. Prayer does not change God but prayer changes me
Waco1947
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GrowlTowel said:

To speak with my God.
Great Answer. Prayers keeps the relationship alive
Waco1947
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Good stuff Golem
Waco1947
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Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition
JXL
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Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
TexasScientist
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JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Golem
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TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
TexasScientist
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GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Over dramatization. You can go a long time without prayer. Food, water, shelter not so much.
Golem
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TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Over dramatization. You can go a long time without prayer. Food, water, shelter not so much.
You can go a long time without meeting many needs. It doesn't mean the need isn't just as strong as others. in fact, when psychological discomfort leads some to suicide, as it can and has, it's hardly arguable that it is equally important to a healthy life as food or water.

Now, if you would answer the question: Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
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Habit
The Bible says to pray.

I pray for my kids and their families, my brothers and my parents. I cant remember the last time I prayed for anything for myself. I devote my time in the elevator 6 times a day to prayer. There are 31 floors and 232 people I pray for. It works out perfectly.

I have become a little jaded over some things that have happened to me due to some poor decisions in my past but I find praying for others helps me.

Waco1947
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TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Yes, nobodies denying that but it's spiritual comfort too
Waco1947 ,la
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GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Over dramatization. You can go a long time without prayer. Food, water, shelter not so much.
You can go a long time without meeting many needs. It doesn't mean the need isn't just as strong as others. in fact, when psychological discomfort leads some to suicide, as it can and has, it's hardly arguable that it is equally important to a healthy life as food or water.

Now, if you would answer the question: Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Ok, to answer your question, prayer is a component of religious belief. Many, when faced with their own mortality, insignificance in context of the universe, and the fact that many events and circumstances of life are outside the scope of their control, find comfort in belief in and prayer to the supernatural. They find comfort in believing there is some higher power out there that is looking out for them.
cinque
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TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Over dramatization. You can go a long time without prayer. Food, water, shelter not so much.
You can go a long time without meeting many needs. It doesn't mean the need isn't just as strong as others. in fact, when psychological discomfort leads some to suicide, as it can and has, it's hardly arguable that it is equally important to a healthy life as food or water.

Now, if you would answer the question: Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Ok, to answer your question, prayer is a component of religious belief. Many, when faced with their own mortality, insignificance in context of the universe, and the fact that many events and circumstances of life are outside the scope of their control, find comfort in belief in and prayer to the supernatural. They find comfort in believing there is some higher power out there that is looking out for them.
True. Is this a bad thing?
TexasScientist
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cinque said:

TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

GolemIII said:

TexasScientist said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

Prayers
1) Praise
2) Gratitude
3) Confession/thanksgiving
4) Whining (See Lamentations)
5) commitment (Here am I. Send me)
6) Intercession
7) Petition



Sums it up very well.
Psychological comfort
Only extreme arrogance would lead someone to think this "psychological comfort" is not a universal need. Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Over dramatization. You can go a long time without prayer. Food, water, shelter not so much.
You can go a long time without meeting many needs. It doesn't mean the need isn't just as strong as others. in fact, when psychological discomfort leads some to suicide, as it can and has, it's hardly arguable that it is equally important to a healthy life as food or water.

Now, if you would answer the question: Given that, what about humanity makes this a universal need? Why is this universal need that transcends geography, cultures and times so strong...equal to the need for food, water and shelter?
Ok, to answer your question, prayer is a component of religious belief. Many, when faced with their own mortality, insignificance in context of the universe, and the fact that many events and circumstances of life are outside the scope of their control, find comfort in belief in and prayer to the supernatural. They find comfort in believing there is some higher power out there that is looking out for them.
True. Is this a bad thing?
Yes, when those beliefs are not confined, but are acted upon and relied upon to govern, influence, or control others for conformance and compliance.
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