But that is just it...to read some media opinions it is like CAB is a registered sex offender or something and you are allowing him to work in your day care. The amount of hate based on willful ignorance is astounding.Forest Bueller said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:That's true.riflebear said:Briles is the best thing to happen to Tracey. No one would know about her nor would she have a 'career' in what she's doing w/out him. The more she can drag this out the better it is for her pocket book. As many have said, he's not part of their program, he just stopped by like any other parent of a player or coach would. This is why 95% of the media has zero respect anymore.PartyBear said:
Who is Brenda Tracey that UH has to reassure her an individual won't be around their program or school? Why does she think she is so important that UH or any other school has to do what she wants or answer to her? That is pretty narcissistic.
She lost big yesterday, her peers on the media just yawned and the leadership at UH isn't budging.
Now here's the part I find interesting. the UH president is female.
https://www.uh.edu/president/about/
Brenda doesn't seem to want that fight.
And why did the media yawn?
A father simply dropped by to see his son at work, and spend a little time talking and socializing,
Are those idiots really so inhumane that they would have issue with that. Are they that big a morons.
They may well be, but aside Brenda they are smart enough to keep their mouth shut.
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Gruvin said:
didnt Major dip his applewhite in a student trainer at UT?
Also curious how a guy visits his son at practice is having anything to do with the program. My family stop by my work from time to time and nobody tweets about it.
#realfakenews
#snowflakenews
FIFY
This is the sports media. So...yes.Forest Bueller said:
Are those idiots really so inhumane that they would have issue with that. Are they that big a morons.
This site leaks private information to Baylor Regents and Administration
My gawd you can't read. Please tell me you didn't attend Baylor.PartyBear said:
NoBSU do you really think two convictions warrants Briles being harrassed?
We we talking about firing.
You missed a part.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So which part was funny? The beating UT and OU regularly or the harassment of Art Briles coming to an end?NoBSU said:LOLcanoso said:He did beat UT and OU regularly. But, the harassment is coming to an end. Could be sooner than any of us thinks.GhettoHEBear said:
This ongoing harassment of Briles is unbelievable
"... coming to an end. Could be sooner than any of us thinks."
It's called Critical Theory. Read about the Frankfort School folks.Eball said:But that is just it...to read some media opinions it is like CAB is a registered sex offender or something and you are allowing him to work in your day care. The amount of hate based on willful ignorance is astounding.Forest Bueller said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:That's true.riflebear said:Briles is the best thing to happen to Tracey. No one would know about her nor would she have a 'career' in what she's doing w/out him. The more she can drag this out the better it is for her pocket book. As many have said, he's not part of their program, he just stopped by like any other parent of a player or coach would. This is why 95% of the media has zero respect anymore.PartyBear said:
Who is Brenda Tracey that UH has to reassure her an individual won't be around their program or school? Why does she think she is so important that UH or any other school has to do what she wants or answer to her? That is pretty narcissistic.
She lost big yesterday, her peers on the media just yawned and the leadership at UH isn't budging.
Now here's the part I find interesting. the UH president is female.
https://www.uh.edu/president/about/
Brenda doesn't seem to want that fight.
And why did the media yawn?
A father simply dropped by to see his son at work, and spend a little time talking and socializing,
Are those idiots really so inhumane that they would have issue with that. Are they that big a morons.
They may well be, but aside Brenda they are smart enough to keep their mouth shut.
They just attack, attack, attack. Criticize, criticize, criticize.
It matters not if what they're saying is true. Indeed, they know that most of their accusations and claims, if not all their accusations and claims, are not true. It matters not to them if their attacks are based on truth.
In fact, they seem to prefer that their accusations not be based on truth.
The point of the attack is to stifle you and to down right scare you into being silent through fear of mob mentality.
In CAB's case: you support CAB, you fear being labeled as a 'rape apologist'.
If that doesn't work, they will quell any and all who question by force.
This behavior and propaganda has been studied and proven in many socialist/communist countries and the U.S. is no stranger to it.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
They had a reason to fire him. They didn't immediately. First they had the Baylor Law School professor look at it. He punted. Why?Eball said:So what is your answer? Is it fair after the fact to come back and offer up the actual convictions of Tevin and Sam themselves and say this is why he had to be let you go? Why did they wait? Clearly. no matter how bad you may think it is these incidents did not move the powers that be to make a change at the time they occurred. So why would you use them now to say the actions to terminate CAB were based on those convictions?NoBSU said:The first valid question that I have read in your posts. Why did we wait?Eball said:That is the Hypocrisy we knew about both convictions as did the world it was public record and we did nothing about it then it was only after an investigation into how BU deals with the victims that suddenly we look back and say well even if he not responsible for title IX and did not specifically cover up SA's then he still should have been fired for the two convictions...well if true why did we wait?NoBSU said:He had two players convicted of sexual assault. You can blame who you want for that. It is a reality. It is serious.Eball said:
It is just sad to see the complete misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what happened at BU and how if any CAB was involved be repeated in the media...it is a complicated issue most of us no matter which side you are on realize that.
As far as college football media goes he is the face of the BU scandal...it is all about him recruiting rapist, protecting rapist and allowing them to prey on the women of BU...
This is why I am so disappointed with BU administration and the BOR and some of our fans we all know he was not what he is being portrayed as, yet we just are to scared to come to his defense for fear of being branded by social media as a rape enabler just like CAB.
Think about this...not fired for cause and paid over 15 million as a buy out, not charged with any crime, not specifically named in the FOF, no other sanctions adjudged against him to date and yet made an absolute pariah by social media...
If you really think about it is scary.
If you take the money and sign the NDA, then you set your path. That is not a path of Tshirt sales and watching games in person. Run silent, run deep (that is a submarine reference in case you were wondering). Briles should fire and never speak to again whoever put him on ESPN so soon and with that message, that prep. Play golf. Fish every day. Travel. Three things that would of had him coaching at an American university today.
Two convictions. That is reality. We knew that two years ago. We know that today.
As bad as I hate to even acknowledge X or that he even posts on this forum he gets it...all about the social media storm...Twitter blows up with folks talking about a bad look hacks from different media outlets start running with opinions instead of facts and then some body worries that their reputation is getting hurt so they cave...which just creates more fodder for later...CAB can't work in Cleveland...CAB cant work in Canada Cab can't work anywhere despite no real info concerning his specific wrong doing just rank speculation. I mean this should be chilling to all...
Except you know what other than the shills and shrill voices screaming on twitter most people could care less and if someone would just say we have done our vetting and we are ok moving forward it dies down...you win games attendance and donations stay up and everybody is happy. Every coach on his staff has gotten other opportunities to coach in college ball...but not CAB. Heck every coach coached at BU after the fact...
The inconsistency in treatment and extreme hate for CAB is just disgusting especially from a lot of folks who cheered him wildly and enjoyed all the success right through it all.
I just think it is gutless for someone at BU to stand up and say we had to make a change for optics but their was showing that CAB did anything wrong in regard to the victims of the SA's. ( oh wait they did that in a letter) but when the letter was attacked and blown off as legal ease they did nothing to say look we paid the guy his buy out if he had done anything so wrong as to justify termination with cause we would have done so.
It would have saved us a ton of money and it would have not insulted the victims to pay the guy most responsible for their pain!
It stinks and is unfair...
Then we brought in outside counsel. Why did the first guy punt? Why did they switch this to work product with PH? Did you read the part of Ian's deposition where the the PH investigators gave Ian three options of their review where the third was a whitewash?
Actually think about this rather than jumping to the letter and scapegoating. Could their be another reason?
Same thing that you do on politics. I am a Republican and I think you do thatDoc Holliday said:It's called Critical Theory. Read about the Frankfort School folks.Eball said:But that is just it...to read some media opinions it is like CAB is a registered sex offender or something and you are allowing him to work in your day care. The amount of hate based on willful ignorance is astounding.Forest Bueller said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:That's true.riflebear said:Briles is the best thing to happen to Tracey. No one would know about her nor would she have a 'career' in what she's doing w/out him. The more she can drag this out the better it is for her pocket book. As many have said, he's not part of their program, he just stopped by like any other parent of a player or coach would. This is why 95% of the media has zero respect anymore.PartyBear said:
Who is Brenda Tracey that UH has to reassure her an individual won't be around their program or school? Why does she think she is so important that UH or any other school has to do what she wants or answer to her? That is pretty narcissistic.
She lost big yesterday, her peers on the media just yawned and the leadership at UH isn't budging.
Now here's the part I find interesting. the UH president is female.
https://www.uh.edu/president/about/
Brenda doesn't seem to want that fight.
And why did the media yawn?
A father simply dropped by to see his son at work, and spend a little time talking and socializing,
Are those idiots really so inhumane that they would have issue with that. Are they that big a morons.
They may well be, but aside Brenda they are smart enough to keep their mouth shut.
They just attack, attack, attack. Criticize, criticize, criticize.
It matters not if what they're saying is true. Indeed, they know that most of their accusations and claims, if not all their accusations and claims, are not true. It matters not to them if their attacks are based on truth.
In fact, they seem to prefer that their accusations not be based on truth.
The point of the attack is to stifle you and to down right scare you into being silent through fear of mob mentality.
In CAB's case: you support CAB, you fear being labeled as a 'rape apologist'.
If that doesn't work, they will quell any and all who question by force.
This behavior and propaganda has been studied and proven in many socialist/communist countries and the U.S. is no stranger to it.
I bring truth, facts, data, statistics to back it up.NoBSU said:Same thing that you do on politics. I am a Republican and I think you do thatDoc Holliday said:It's called Critical Theory. Read about the Frankfort School folks.Eball said:But that is just it...to read some media opinions it is like CAB is a registered sex offender or something and you are allowing him to work in your day care. The amount of hate based on willful ignorance is astounding.Forest Bueller said:TellMeYouLoveMe said:That's true.riflebear said:Briles is the best thing to happen to Tracey. No one would know about her nor would she have a 'career' in what she's doing w/out him. The more she can drag this out the better it is for her pocket book. As many have said, he's not part of their program, he just stopped by like any other parent of a player or coach would. This is why 95% of the media has zero respect anymore.PartyBear said:
Who is Brenda Tracey that UH has to reassure her an individual won't be around their program or school? Why does she think she is so important that UH or any other school has to do what she wants or answer to her? That is pretty narcissistic.
She lost big yesterday, her peers on the media just yawned and the leadership at UH isn't budging.
Now here's the part I find interesting. the UH president is female.
https://www.uh.edu/president/about/
Brenda doesn't seem to want that fight.
And why did the media yawn?
A father simply dropped by to see his son at work, and spend a little time talking and socializing,
Are those idiots really so inhumane that they would have issue with that. Are they that big a morons.
They may well be, but aside Brenda they are smart enough to keep their mouth shut.
They just attack, attack, attack. Criticize, criticize, criticize.
It matters not if what they're saying is true. Indeed, they know that most of their accusations and claims, if not all their accusations and claims, are not true. It matters not to them if their attacks are based on truth.
In fact, they seem to prefer that their accusations not be based on truth.
The point of the attack is to stifle you and to down right scare you into being silent through fear of mob mentality.
In CAB's case: you support CAB, you fear being labeled as a 'rape apologist'.
If that doesn't work, they will quell any and all who question by force.
This behavior and propaganda has been studied and proven in many socialist/communist countries and the U.S. is no stranger to it.
That is the difference.
What is absent in the Baylor scandal is truth, facts, data and statistics.
This is the reason why nobody will shut up about it.
No one in their right mind is going to defend a man who they know tolerated rape...the pro CAB group isn't convinced of that because they don't have enough evidence.
The anti CAB group isn't convinced but they feel it is embarrassing to question it so they go along with the mob mentality.
There is also a set of those out of the loop who take it at face value and think we had gang rapes all season long.
That's how this game works.
Truth is all that matters. And the quicker we can get to the truth, the better.
I know that we will never see the truth and the BOR is counting on time and withholding facts to get people disinterested
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
You act as if the investigation was about CAB only and the football program? That is not what the scope was it was our title IX response to victims. None of us and none of the media expected CAB to be fired do you not remember? The bizarre twist is that for whatever reason the BOR decided to terminate CAB the immediate thought by everyone outside was who would be crazy enough to fire the most successful and likely to be the most popular football coach a school like BU ever had. In fact that was some of the first arguments from the BOR supporters oh well there is really horrible stuff or they would not have fired him... now you are trying to say at least in part it was becasue of the convictions of Sam and Tevin but everyone already knew of those.. now you switch gears and say well the investigation was centered on CAB and it wasn't. they just should have told us why he had to go and then we would not be here with the steady drip drip drip.NoBSU said:They had a reason to fire him. They didn't immediately. First they had the Baylor Law School professor look at it. He punted. Why?Eball said:So what is your answer? Is it fair after the fact to come back and offer up the actual convictions of Tevin and Sam themselves and say this is why he had to be let you go? Why did they wait? Clearly. no matter how bad you may think it is these incidents did not move the powers that be to make a change at the time they occurred. So why would you use them now to say the actions to terminate CAB were based on those convictions?NoBSU said:The first valid question that I have read in your posts. Why did we wait?Eball said:That is the Hypocrisy we knew about both convictions as did the world it was public record and we did nothing about it then it was only after an investigation into how BU deals with the victims that suddenly we look back and say well even if he not responsible for title IX and did not specifically cover up SA's then he still should have been fired for the two convictions...well if true why did we wait?NoBSU said:He had two players convicted of sexual assault. You can blame who you want for that. It is a reality. It is serious.Eball said:
It is just sad to see the complete misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what happened at BU and how if any CAB was involved be repeated in the media...it is a complicated issue most of us no matter which side you are on realize that.
As far as college football media goes he is the face of the BU scandal...it is all about him recruiting rapist, protecting rapist and allowing them to prey on the women of BU...
This is why I am so disappointed with BU administration and the BOR and some of our fans we all know he was not what he is being portrayed as, yet we just are to scared to come to his defense for fear of being branded by social media as a rape enabler just like CAB.
Think about this...not fired for cause and paid over 15 million as a buy out, not charged with any crime, not specifically named in the FOF, no other sanctions adjudged against him to date and yet made an absolute pariah by social media...
If you really think about it is scary.
If you take the money and sign the NDA, then you set your path. That is not a path of Tshirt sales and watching games in person. Run silent, run deep (that is a submarine reference in case you were wondering). Briles should fire and never speak to again whoever put him on ESPN so soon and with that message, that prep. Play golf. Fish every day. Travel. Three things that would of had him coaching at an American university today.
Two convictions. That is reality. We knew that two years ago. We know that today.
As bad as I hate to even acknowledge X or that he even posts on this forum he gets it...all about the social media storm...Twitter blows up with folks talking about a bad look hacks from different media outlets start running with opinions instead of facts and then some body worries that their reputation is getting hurt so they cave...which just creates more fodder for later...CAB can't work in Cleveland...CAB cant work in Canada Cab can't work anywhere despite no real info concerning his specific wrong doing just rank speculation. I mean this should be chilling to all...
Except you know what other than the shills and shrill voices screaming on twitter most people could care less and if someone would just say we have done our vetting and we are ok moving forward it dies down...you win games attendance and donations stay up and everybody is happy. Every coach on his staff has gotten other opportunities to coach in college ball...but not CAB. Heck every coach coached at BU after the fact...
The inconsistency in treatment and extreme hate for CAB is just disgusting especially from a lot of folks who cheered him wildly and enjoyed all the success right through it all.
I just think it is gutless for someone at BU to stand up and say we had to make a change for optics but their was showing that CAB did anything wrong in regard to the victims of the SA's. ( oh wait they did that in a letter) but when the letter was attacked and blown off as legal ease they did nothing to say look we paid the guy his buy out if he had done anything so wrong as to justify termination with cause we would have done so.
It would have saved us a ton of money and it would have not insulted the victims to pay the guy most responsible for their pain!
It stinks and is unfair...
Then we brought in outside counsel. Why did the first guy punt? Why did they switch this to work product with PH? Did you read the part of Ian's deposition where the the PH investigators gave Ian three options of their review where the third was a whitewash?
Actually think about this rather than jumping to the letter and scapegoating. Could their be another reason?
And you believe that?Eball said:
You act as if the investigation was about CAB only and the football program? That is not what the scope was it was our title IX response to victims. None of us and none of the media expected CAB to be fired do you not remember? The bizarre twist is that for whatever reason the BOR decided to terminate CAB the immediate thought by everyone outside was who would be crazy enough to fire the most successful and likely to be the most popular football coach a school like BU ever had. In fact that was some of the first arguments from the BOR supporters oh well there is really horrible stuff or they would not have fired him... now you are trying to say at least in part it was becasue of the convictions of Sam and Tevin but everyone already knew of those.. now you switch gears and say well the investigation was centered on CAB and it wasn't. they just should have told us why he had to go and then we would not be here with the steady drip drip drip.
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
Eball said:You act as if the investigation was about CAB only and the football program? That is not what the scope was it was our title IX response to victims. None of us and none of the media expected CAB to be fired do you not remember? The bizarre twist is that for whatever reason the BOR decided to terminate CAB the immediate thought by everyone outside was who would be crazy enough to fire the most successful and likely to be the most popular football coach a school like BU ever had. In fact that was some of the first arguments from the BOR supporters oh well there is really horrible stuff or they would not have fired him... now you are trying to say at least in part it was becasue of the convictions of Sam and Tevin but everyone already knew of those.. now you switch gears and say well the investigation was centered on CAB and it wasn't. they just should have told us why he had to go and then we would not be here with the steady drip drip drip.NoBSU said:They had a reason to fire him. They didn't immediately. First they had the Baylor Law School professor look at it. He punted. Why?Eball said:So what is your answer? Is it fair after the fact to come back and offer up the actual convictions of Tevin and Sam themselves and say this is why he had to be let you go? Why did they wait? Clearly. no matter how bad you may think it is these incidents did not move the powers that be to make a change at the time they occurred. So why would you use them now to say the actions to terminate CAB were based on those convictions?NoBSU said:The first valid question that I have read in your posts. Why did we wait?Eball said:That is the Hypocrisy we knew about both convictions as did the world it was public record and we did nothing about it then it was only after an investigation into how BU deals with the victims that suddenly we look back and say well even if he not responsible for title IX and did not specifically cover up SA's then he still should have been fired for the two convictions...well if true why did we wait?NoBSU said:He had two players convicted of sexual assault. You can blame who you want for that. It is a reality. It is serious.Eball said:
It is just sad to see the complete misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what happened at BU and how if any CAB was involved be repeated in the media...it is a complicated issue most of us no matter which side you are on realize that.
As far as college football media goes he is the face of the BU scandal...it is all about him recruiting rapist, protecting rapist and allowing them to prey on the women of BU...
This is why I am so disappointed with BU administration and the BOR and some of our fans we all know he was not what he is being portrayed as, yet we just are to scared to come to his defense for fear of being branded by social media as a rape enabler just like CAB.
Think about this...not fired for cause and paid over 15 million as a buy out, not charged with any crime, not specifically named in the FOF, no other sanctions adjudged against him to date and yet made an absolute pariah by social media...
If you really think about it is scary.
If you take the money and sign the NDA, then you set your path. That is not a path of Tshirt sales and watching games in person. Run silent, run deep (that is a submarine reference in case you were wondering). Briles should fire and never speak to again whoever put him on ESPN so soon and with that message, that prep. Play golf. Fish every day. Travel. Three things that would of had him coaching at an American university today.
Two convictions. That is reality. We knew that two years ago. We know that today.
As bad as I hate to even acknowledge X or that he even posts on this forum he gets it...all about the social media storm...Twitter blows up with folks talking about a bad look hacks from different media outlets start running with opinions instead of facts and then some body worries that their reputation is getting hurt so they cave...which just creates more fodder for later...CAB can't work in Cleveland...CAB cant work in Canada Cab can't work anywhere despite no real info concerning his specific wrong doing just rank speculation. I mean this should be chilling to all...
Except you know what other than the shills and shrill voices screaming on twitter most people could care less and if someone would just say we have done our vetting and we are ok moving forward it dies down...you win games attendance and donations stay up and everybody is happy. Every coach on his staff has gotten other opportunities to coach in college ball...but not CAB. Heck every coach coached at BU after the fact...
The inconsistency in treatment and extreme hate for CAB is just disgusting especially from a lot of folks who cheered him wildly and enjoyed all the success right through it all.
I just think it is gutless for someone at BU to stand up and say we had to make a change for optics but their was showing that CAB did anything wrong in regard to the victims of the SA's. ( oh wait they did that in a letter) but when the letter was attacked and blown off as legal ease they did nothing to say look we paid the guy his buy out if he had done anything so wrong as to justify termination with cause we would have done so.
It would have saved us a ton of money and it would have not insulted the victims to pay the guy most responsible for their pain!
It stinks and is unfair...
Then we brought in outside counsel. Why did the first guy punt? Why did they switch this to work product with PH? Did you read the part of Ian's deposition where the the PH investigators gave Ian three options of their review where the third was a whitewash?
Actually think about this rather than jumping to the letter and scapegoating. Could their be another reason?
Texas Monthly and ESPN. What was the focus?
I realize that all of this is one issue to you. Then you complain that it is a single issue to the media and the Social Justice Warriors. I am saying that I don't think it is a single issue matter. It isn't just Sexual Assaults. It isn't just Sexual Assaults involving football. It isn't just Title IX policy and training. It isn't just about reporting or not reporting. It isn't just about non-Title IX incidents. It isn't just about ****ts in athketics, administration, and regents. So why do you think the BU law professor punted or the PH investigator told Ian that a whitewash was on the menu?
You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
Because firing him was not some premeditated regent conspiracy but became the conclusion at some point in the investigation.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
Were you in the meeting in Philadelphia?Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
They left me out too, although I was never invited so I didn't get a disinvite like someone else.NoBSU said:Were you in the meeting in Philadelphia?Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do realize you just keep talking in circles don't you? It is this no it is that no it is all of this no it is all of that no it was a singular focus no It was a general focus. Just say what you want say what point are you even trying to make ?
"Remember you told me to tell you when you were acting rudely and insensitively? Remember that? You're doing it right now."
Sure thing. Not being there you don't know the full PH presentation. You are referring to the notes to all the regents. Do we really know why the law professor punted or why whitewash was on the table but not used?Malbec said:They left me out too, although I was never invited so I didn't get a disinvite like someone else.NoBSU said:Were you in the meeting in Philadelphia?Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
Maybe I have learned that playing tic tac toe is useless so how about thinking about this in another way?Malbec said:
"Remember you told me to tell you when you were acting rudely and insensitively? Remember that? You're doing it right now."
Huh-huh. You said, "we-we".NoBSU said:My gawd you can't read. Please tell me you didn't attend Baylor.PartyBear said:
NoBSU do you really think two convictions warrants Briles being harrassed?
We we talking about firing.
I actually keep circling back to the same question with you but you don't seem to be noticing that. Why did the law professor punt and why was whitewash on the table when PH interviewed Ian?Eball said:
You do realize you just keep talking in circles don't you? It is this no it is that no it is all of this no it is all of that no it was a singular focus no It was a general focus. Just say what you want say what point are you even trying to make ?
A presentation in Philly is not what got people fired. It was one in Waco. They may have game-planned the presentation in Philly, but they executed it in Waco. You didn't have to be in the room to know what people said and wrote. They put it on tape and in writing.
https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-smith-sex-toys-ohio-state-offices-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/
This should go over well.
This site leaks private information to Baylor Regents and Administration
Lol. It should have been We were.Dungeon Athletics said:Huh-huh. You said, "we-we".NoBSU said:My gawd you can't read. Please tell me you didn't attend Baylor.PartyBear said:
NoBSU do you really think two convictions warrants Briles being harrassed?
We we talking about firing.
PH told Ian they thought whitewash could be an outcome. So at some point it focused a different way. I wonder what turned up that focused on another of the three options?Malbec said:
A presentation in Philly is not what got people fired. It was one in Waco. They may have game-planned the presentation in Philly, but they executed it in Waco. You didn't have to be in the room to know what people said and wrote. They put it on tape and in writing.
Do you think Richard Willis reads that story and tells an assistant to get Smith on the Pharmaca mailing list?TellMeYouLoveMe said:
https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-smith-sex-toys-ohio-state-offices-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/
This should go over well.
hahaha! golden!NoBSU said:Do you think Richard Willis reads that story and tells an assistant to get Smith on the Pharmaca mailing list?TellMeYouLoveMe said:
https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-smith-sex-toys-ohio-state-offices-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/
This should go over well.
I imagine he looks over at the monster product on his desk and wonders if he can put an Ohio State logo on it without being sued.
Dick Willis, Entrepreneur.
This site leaks private information to Baylor Regents and Administration
Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do if you know what outcome you want before you start
TellMeYouLoveMe said:hahaha! golden!NoBSU said:Do you think Richard Willis reads that story and tells an assistant to get Smith on the Pharmaca mailing list?TellMeYouLoveMe said:
https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-smith-sex-toys-ohio-state-offices-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/
This should go over well.
I imagine he looks over at the monster product on his desk and wonders if he can put an Ohio State log on it without being sued.
Dick Willis, Entrepreneur.
Willis might have a new customer!
Let's see. You have two convictions of sexual assault of football players. Where to take a look? Where to take a look? I know, BUGWB. You need me to explain to you what that is?REX said:Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do if you know what outcome you want before you start
NoBSU said:Let's see. You have two convictions of sexual assault of football players. Where to take a look? Where to take a look? I know, BUGWB. You need me to explain to you what that is?REX said:Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do if you know what outcome you want before you start
Was Sam already convicted ? I'm really not sure on the time line. Were there any other sexual assault convictions of Baylor students in the last 5 years or only these two? Just curious
NoBSU said:Let's see. You have two convictions of sexual assault of football players. Where to take a look? Where to take a look? I know, BUGWB. You need me to explain to you what that is?REX said:Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do if you know what outcome you want before you start
If you remember sam conviction brought the spotlight but not exactly the way you think. It was because our investigation JA/title IX clearled him. Our jA officer McGraw got killed by asst DA in trial and in press. It was how we treated the victims that was causing the heat on school. It got the pub because of football.
Sam's conviction set off the Texas Monthly article which started everything with press outside Waco.REX said:NoBSU said:Let's see. You have two convictions of sexual assault of football players. Where to take a look? Where to take a look? I know, BUGWB. You need me to explain to you what that is?REX said:Malbec said:You don't have a "campus-wide" investigation, then only present cases to the Board that involve football players, then issue statements of particulars with numbers only of football players, then produce a findings document that only offers details about cases that involve football players.Eball said:
Good point but that is what they said it was. It was all very strange. So why did they not just say we suspending CAB until investigation complete if it was about CAB all along ?
You do if you know what outcome you want before you start
Was Sam already convicted ? I'm really not sure on the time line. Were there any other sexual assault convictions of Baylor students in the last 5 years or only these two? Just curious
I think the frat president investigation was public sometime around then but not sure if that indictment came before or after Texas Monthly. No other SA convictions that I know of but Elliot and SamU. Nor have I heard of any plea deals to lesser charges. Somebody around here will know if they exist.