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Kavanaugh may indeed be a highly qualified judge, a bright and respected professional and a solid family man.

But I've been struck by his arrogance and lack of empathy for the people who will be affected by his decisions--specifically, the teenager fleeing abuse who was seeking an abortion. Kavanaugh's decisions would have delayed her access to the procedure until it was no longer possible, forcing a young, unmarried woman fleeing parental abuse to become a mother as a teen in a country where we currently have so little respect for immigrant families that we are kidnapping the children of refugees seeking asylum at our southern border and then losing them in a bureaucracy.

I have no doubt the victim's story is true.

I also believe Kavanaugh--that he has no memory of the incident. What, for him, was a drunken youthful indiscretion that meant so little to him that he has no recollection of it was, for the victim, a frightening sexual assault that her assailants were too drunk to even register.

My mother always told me to trust my gut. This woman's gut told her she was in grave danger, and I believe her.

My gut also tells me that Max Boot is right--Kavanaugh will apply his own narrow definitions of justice to his decisions in court with little or no empathy or sympathy for those who will literally bear the consequences.

I hope he isn't confirmed.

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Jinx 2 said:

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Ruth Marcus has this right:

...There must be a full investigation, beginning with FBI interviews of both Christine Blasey Ford, who made the accusation, and Kavanaugh himself, likely followed by some form of hearing. Though I would put nothing past the people who stole a Supreme Court seat from Merrick Garland, even this crew of Senate Republicans cannot muscle through the nomination, bleating about the unfairness of 11th-hour complaints.

The urgency is to investigate, not to rush to confirm a lifetime appointment. Surely a few Republican senators retain enough sense of institutional responsibility to insist on that if not because it is clearly the right thing to do, because in the era of #MeToo, their female constituents will not tolerate such rug-sweeping.

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Such a swearing contest would raise questions about both the standard of proof the Senate should require in such a case (preponderance of evidence? Clear and convincing?) and who bears the burden of proof (Ford or Kavanaugh?).

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Booray said:

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There is nothing to indicate Feinstein sought this information out-it did not even come to her office. She has tried to avoid publicizing it. What exactly should she have done with the letter if it contains an allegation that a potential SCOTUS justice had committed serious crimes?

What would you have done if you were in her shoes?

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I agree. What should she do?

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With a letter about high school? "Throwing it in the trash" comes to mind,

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riflebear said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Ruth Marcus has this right:

...There must be a full investigation, beginning with FBI interviews of both Christine Blasey Ford, who made the accusation, and Kavanaugh himself, likely followed by some form of hearing. Though I would put nothing past the people who stole a Supreme Court seat from Merrick Garland, even this crew of Senate Republicans cannot muscle through the nomination, bleating about the unfairness of 11th-hour complaints.

The urgency is to investigate, not to rush to confirm a lifetime appointment. Surely a few Republican senators retain enough sense of institutional responsibility to insist on that if not because it is clearly the right thing to do, because in the era of #MeToo, their female constituents will not tolerate such rug-sweeping.

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Exactly what is there to investigate?

- Nothing sexual happened.
- How can u investigate something 30 yrs ago when there was not sexual assault or murder?
- she admitted she didn't know where she was or how she got there but she remembers him?
- this was so serious Feinstein sat on it for 2 months. How is that caring for a woman?
- this lady is also a Democrat fundraiser, u all don't think this was all planned for her to come out a few days before?
- but don't worry, it's over. Republicans will fall for it again and give in.
- if true a drunken act (where there was no crime) in high school should wipe away 30 yrs of one of the brightest careers in our history?

Republicans if they fall for this haven't learned anything since 2016. But I have to hand it to Dems. It's a win/win for them. Even if he is confirmed they get to trash GOP for not caring about woman and 'assault' and it will work when voting happens. Dirty little Dems win again.

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ABC BEAR said:

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If the dems are going to use a surprise witness, they need to find someone a bit more cocksure.

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Canada2017 said:

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Yes....dump it. The whole thing is manufactured.

Serious crimes don't take 35 years to report .

Really think the timing is an accident ?

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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This garbage WORKED in Alabama.....just through enough crap and see what gives .

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These situations are not remotely similar.

Kavanaugh was a minor, was drunk and it never happened again, whatever "it" was.

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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About that...

This is just a really misleading headline. Politico was unable to contact many. 2 refused to comment & 24 did not immediately respond. So of the 4 they actually contacted, 2 stood by the letter & 2 refused to comment.

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HuMcK said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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About that...

This is just a really misleading headline. Politico was unable to contact many. 2 refused to comment & 24 did not immediately respond. So of the 4 they actually contacted, 2 stood by the letter & 2 refused to comment.

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"Unable to contact". That letter from 65 women was supposedly pulled together within a couple of days right after Republicans learned of the anonymous letter? Interesting that when the GOP "suddenly" learned about an anonymous allegation, those women were all on tap and ready to vouch for the guy, but now they aren't. That leads me to conclude that their silence is a comment itself, and/or maybe the letter wasn't pulled together as quickly as we were told to believe it was.

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HuMcK said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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About that...

This is just a really misleading headline. Politico was unable to contact many. 2 refused to comment & 24 did not immediately respond. So of the 4 they actually contacted, 2 stood by the letter & 2 refused to comment.

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"Unable to contact". That letter from 65 women was supposedly pulled together within a couple of days right after Republicans learned of the anonymous letter? Interesting that when the GOP "suddenly" learned about an anonymous allegation, those women were all on tap and ready to vouch for the guy, but now they aren't. That leads me to conclude that their silence is a comment itself, and/or maybe the letter wasn't pulled together as quickly as we were told to believe it was.

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Or the contact information for all of the people wasn't available to the reporters? Why does it have to be the most nafarious explanation possible. If this involved a democrat, you wouldn't be so quick to come to the same conclusion.

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HuMcK said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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About that...

This is just a really misleading headline. Politico was unable to contact many. 2 refused to comment & 24 did not immediately respond. So of the 4 they actually contacted, 2 stood by the letter & 2 refused to comment.

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"Unable to contact". That letter from 65 women was supposedly pulled together within a couple of days right after Republicans learned of the anonymous letter? Interesting that when the GOP "suddenly" learned about an anonymous allegation, those women were all on tap and ready to vouch for the guy, but now they aren't. That leads me to conclude that their silence is a comment itself, and/or maybe the letter wasn't pulled together as quickly as we were told to believe it was.

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HuMcK said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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65 liberal and democrat woman come out in support of Kav who knew him from high school and on vs 1 girl who is a Democrat fundraiser who can't even remember where she was or what took place. If there were other accusations then fine but Dems are ignoring many liberal woman who have known him for decades.

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About that...

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About that...

This is just a really misleading headline. Politico was unable to contact many. 2 refused to comment & 24 did not immediately respond. So of the 4 they actually contacted, 2 stood by the letter & 2 refused to comment.

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"Unable to contact". That letter from 65 women was supposedly pulled together within a couple of days right after Republicans learned of the anonymous letter? Interesting that when the GOP "suddenly" learned about an anonymous allegation, those women were all on tap and ready to vouch for the guy, but now they aren't. That leads me to conclude that their silence is a comment itself, and/or maybe the letter wasn't pulled together as quickly as we were told to believe it was.

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Ruth Marcus has this right:

...There must be a full investigation, beginning with FBI interviews of both Christine Blasey Ford, who made the accusation, and Kavanaugh himself, likely followed by some form of hearing. Though I would put nothing past the people who stole a Supreme Court seat from Merrick Garland, even this crew of Senate Republicans cannot muscle through the nomination, bleating about the unfairness of 11th-hour complaints.

The urgency is to investigate, not to rush to confirm a lifetime appointment. Surely a few Republican senators retain enough sense of institutional responsibility to insist on that if not because it is clearly the right thing to do, because in the era of #MeToo, their female constituents will not tolerate such rug-sweeping.

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Exactly what is there to investigate?

- Nothing sexual happened.
- How can u investigate something 30 yrs ago when there was not sexual assault or murder?
- she admitted she didn't know where she was or how she got there but she remembers him?
- this was so serious Feinstein sat on it for 2 months. How is that caring for a woman?
- this lady is also a Democrat fundraiser, u all don't think this was all planned for her to come out a few days before?
- but don't worry, it's over. Republicans will fall for it again and give in.
- if true a drunken act (where there was no crime) in high school should wipe away 30 yrs of one of the brightest careers in our history?

Republicans if they fall for this haven't learned anything since 2016. But I have to hand it to Dems. It's a win/win for them. Even if he is confirmed they get to trash GOP for not caring about woman and 'assault' and it will work when voting happens. Dirty little Dems win again.

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There were other qualified names to nominate who almost certainly wouldn't have had this issue in their past, including a woman named Amy Coney Barrett or Baylor's own Don Willett. McConnell even pushed for Trump (through the media) to not pick Kavanaugh, but Trump just had to try and get the "Presidents are above the law and can't be subpoenaed" guy on SCOTUS before his sh/t potentially hits the fan.

How much y'all wanna bet McConnell knew what was coming the same way he knew Roy Moore was a loser with disqualifying behavior in his past? And now here we are with the GOP staring a failed SCOTUS nomination in the face because they insist on nominating political operatives who protect their partisan interests over distinguished jurists.

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contrario said:

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What exactly is he accused of doing? Trying to hook up with a girl at a party? And she said no, so he stopped? What exactly are we talking about here? Are we going to automatically disqualify anyone to any office in DC who tried to hook up with someone else at a party, but stopped? If so, we are going to have a very small pool of people to pick from, and men aren't the only ones that come on to someone at parties while drunk.

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"Anyone who comes forward as Dr. Ford has deserves to be heard, so I will continue working on a way to hear her out in an appropriate, precedented and respectful manner.

"The standard procedure for updates to any nominee's background investigation file is to conduct separate follow-up calls with relevant parties. In this case, that would entail phone calls with at least Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford. Consistent with that practice, I asked Senator Feinstein's office yesterday to join me in scheduling these follow-ups. Thus far, they have refused. But as a necessary step in evaluating these claims, I'll continue working to set them up.

"Unfortunately, committee Republicans have only known this person's identity from news reports for less than 24 hours and known about her allegations for less than a week. Senator Feinstein, on the other hand, has had this information for many weeks and deprived her colleagues of the information necessary to do our jobs. The Minority withheld even the anonymous allegations for six weeks, only to later decide that they were serious enough to investigate on the eve of the committee vote, after the vetting process had been completed.

"It's deeply disturbing that the existence of these allegations were leaked in a way that seemed to preclude Dr. Ford's confidentiality.

"Over my nearly four decades in the Senate I have worked diligently to protect whistleblowers and get to the bottom of any issue. Dr. Ford's attorney could have approached my office, while keeping her client confidential and anonymous, so that these allegations could be thoroughly investigated. Nevertheless, we are working diligently to get to the bottom of these claims."

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Edmond Bear said:

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HuMcK said:

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riflebear said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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Ruth Marcus has this right:

...There must be a full investigation, beginning with FBI interviews of both Christine Blasey Ford, who made the accusation, and Kavanaugh himself, likely followed by some form of hearing. Though I would put nothing past the people who stole a Supreme Court seat from Merrick Garland, even this crew of Senate Republicans cannot muscle through the nomination, bleating about the unfairness of 11th-hour complaints.

The urgency is to investigate, not to rush to confirm a lifetime appointment. Surely a few Republican senators retain enough sense of institutional responsibility to insist on that if not because it is clearly the right thing to do, because in the era of #MeToo, their female constituents will not tolerate such rug-sweeping.

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Exactly what is there to investigate?

- Nothing sexual happened.
- How can u investigate something 30 yrs ago when there was not sexual assault or murder?
- she admitted she didn't know where she was or how she got there but she remembers him?
- this was so serious Feinstein sat on it for 2 months. How is that caring for a woman?
- this lady is also a Democrat fundraiser, u all don't think this was all planned for her to come out a few days before?
- but don't worry, it's over. Republicans will fall for it again and give in.
- if true a drunken act (where there was no crime) in high school should wipe away 30 yrs of one of the brightest careers in our history?

Republicans if they fall for this haven't learned anything since 2016. But I have to hand it to Dems. It's a win/win for them. Even if he is confirmed they get to trash GOP for not caring about woman and 'assault' and it will work when voting happens. Dirty little Dems win again.

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There were other qualified names to nominate who almost certainly wouldn't have had this issue in their past, including a woman named Amy Coney Barrett or Baylor's own Don Willett. McConnell even pushed for Trump (through the media) to not pick Kavanaugh, but Trump just had to try and get the "Presidents are above the law and can't be subpoenaed" guy on SCOTUS before his sh/t potentially hits the fan.

How much y'all wanna bet McConnell knew what was coming the same way he knew Roy Moore was a loser with disqualifying behavior in his past? And now here we are with the GOP staring a failed SCOTUS nomination in the face because they insist on nominating political operatives who protect their partisan interests over distinguished jurists.

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I think what people are trying to show you is that no matter who was put up as the nominee, some last second, half-cocked accusation would have been made by Democrats trying to block nominee X.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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What a bunch of unethical, dishonest, despicable people.

Time to check the "R" box in November and in 2020. I have lost all respect for the Democratic Party.

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