bularry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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bularry said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Joe Biden had better get a clue and figure out very quickly that his biggest adversary in the short term in NOT Donald Trump, but his own party. The Neo Socialist Democrats are going to eat him alive.

Believe it or not, had Biden been the Democratic nominee in the last election, my wife and I would have voted for him. Looking back, thank God that didn't happen. Trump is an arrogant ass but so far has been a pretty damn good President.

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No idea why you think he's been good.

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I like Americans having jobs.

I like effective action against ISIS.

I like judges who follow the Constitution.

Just for starters.

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Judges who follow the Constitution is nonsensical

Effective action against ISIS? By ceding all influence in Middle East to Russia? That's his big win?

Trump hasn't done anything to help jobs. Presidents don't control the economy

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^^^ Democrat anyone???

LOL

Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

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If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

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Funny you should mention that. There are actually several monuments to Arnold, although the name has been removed from each. The problem is that while Arnold was undeniably a traitor, he was also a hero and almost single-handedly won the battle at Saratoga.

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Attacking the USA is treasonous according to the Constitution.

Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

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If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

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Funny you should mention that. There are actually several monuments to Arnold, although the name has been removed from each. The problem is that while Arnold was undeniably a traitor, he was also a hero and almost single-handedly won the battle at Saratoga.

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Attacking the USA is treasonous according to the Constitution.

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Which is what democrats and obama appointees in our intelligence have done to our president and anyone associated with him

Agree?

Waco1947 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

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If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

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Funny you should mention that. There are actually several monuments to Arnold, although the name has been removed from each. The problem is that while Arnold was undeniably a traitor, he was also a hero and almost single-handedly won the battle at Saratoga.

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Attacking the USA is treasonous according to the Constitution.

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Not defending Gen. Arnold, but two points -

What Arnold did at Saratoga is literally legend; and

You do understand that the Constitution was written a while after the Revolutionary War ended, and therefore Arnold's actions are separate from anything written in the Constitution, right?

A much more thoughtful discussion on college debt.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/26/dear-elizabeth-warren-dont-make-people-pay-off-student-loans/

Let Trump be Trump

fadskier said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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fadskier said:

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So far, it's going to be Trump again for me. This "government pay for everything" is crap and stupid crap at that...

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Agree with you Sir. Trump is an arrogant, narcissistic, womanizing ass. But he is by far a better choice than anyone in the New Far Left Democratic Party. I don't have to like him to vote for him.

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He'd win my vote hands down if he'd disengage his Twitter.

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You must be the passive type that allows others to attack your integrity in all ways without defending yourself in any way at all?

Must be hard to sleep?

I can't live like that and look myself in mirror

bularry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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bularry said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Joe Biden had better get a clue and figure out very quickly that his biggest adversary in the short term in NOT Donald Trump, but his own party. The Neo Socialist Democrats are going to eat him alive.

Believe it or not, had Biden been the Democratic nominee in the last election, my wife and I would have voted for him. Looking back, thank God that didn't happen. Trump is an arrogant ass but so far has been a pretty damn good President.

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No idea why you think he's been good.

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I like Americans having jobs.

I like effective action against ISIS.

I like judges who follow the Constitution.

Just for starters.

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Trump hasn't done anything to help jobs. Presidents don't control the economy

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Post of the month .

Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

Canada2017 said:

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bularry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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bularry said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Joe Biden had better get a clue and figure out very quickly that his biggest adversary in the short term in NOT Donald Trump, but his own party. The Neo Socialist Democrats are going to eat him alive.

Believe it or not, had Biden been the Democratic nominee in the last election, my wife and I would have voted for him. Looking back, thank God that didn't happen. Trump is an arrogant ass but so far has been a pretty damn good President.

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No idea why you think he's been good.

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I like Americans having jobs.

I like effective action against ISIS.

I like judges who follow the Constitution.

Just for starters.

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Trump hasn't done anything to help jobs. Presidents don't control the economy

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Post of the month .

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Yep

Sky screaming TDS is diagnosis for bularry

Trust baby that isn't effected by economy

Florda_mike said:

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fadskier said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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fadskier said:

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So far, it's going to be Trump again for me. This "government pay for everything" is crap and stupid crap at that...

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Agree with you Sir. Trump is an arrogant, narcissistic, womanizing ass. But he is by far a better choice than anyone in the New Far Left Democratic Party. I don't have to like him to vote for him.

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He'd win my vote hands down if he'd disengage his Twitter.

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You must be the passive type that allows others to attack your integrity in all ways without defending yourself in any way at all?

Must be hard to sleep?

I can't live like that and look myself in mirror

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It's just never-ending. Sometimes I wish he'd take the high road. But I do like him defending himself...just not on every single thing. He needs a thicker skin.

fadskier said:

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Florda_mike said:

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fadskier said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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fadskier said:

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So far, it's going to be Trump again for me. This "government pay for everything" is crap and stupid crap at that...

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Agree with you Sir. Trump is an arrogant, narcissistic, womanizing ass. But he is by far a better choice than anyone in the New Far Left Democratic Party. I don't have to like him to vote for him.

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He'd win my vote hands down if he'd disengage his Twitter.

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You must be the passive type that allows others to attack your integrity in all ways without defending yourself in any way at all?

Must be hard to sleep?

I can't live like that and look myself in mirror

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It's just never-ending. Sometimes I wish he'd take the high road. But I do like him defending himself...just not on every single thing. He needs a thicker skin.

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YES! He needs to better pick and choose his battles. Especially when it comes to some of these jackleg celebrities.

Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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You appear to be glossing over the difference between parents spending money they earned and own, and people demanding someone be forced to pay for what they want.

And yes, anyone demanding someone else be forced to pay for a choice they freely made on their own, lacks anything like an ethical or responsible character.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

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So you have your own fire department?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

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At what age are your children adults? And at what age are they responsible for their own success?

Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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You appear to be glossing over the difference between parents spending money they earned and own, and people demanding someone be forced to pay for what they want.

And yes, anyone demanding someone else be forced to pay for a choice they freely made on their own, lacks anything like an ethical or responsible character.

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Education is not a want. It's a necessity for a republic to have educated voters. Aristocrats thought once as you do.

Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

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If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

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So when you imply that Trump hates black people, what you really mean is that you hate Robert E. Lee. Thanks for clearing that up!

Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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You appear to be glossing over the difference between parents spending money they earned and own, and people demanding someone be forced to pay for what they want.

And yes, anyone demanding someone else be forced to pay for a choice they freely made on their own, lacks anything like an ethical or responsible character.

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Education is not a want. It's a necessity for a republic to have educated voters. Aristocrats thought once as you do.

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Education is a fact of life, boyo. If you take advantage of your opportunities and work hard in school, all kinds of opportunities come your way. But college is not for everyone, in fact some people are learning that a productive trade is more satisfying and more financially rewarding than a generic degree from college. Becoming a plumber regularly means a six-figure salary, and a contractor can make a half-million in a year if he builds a name for good work. Compare that to state college grads who can do no better than working barista jobs or retail for the Gap.

Those life decisions are the responsibility of the kids making the choices. And yes, having good parents helps but it still comes down to making the decision to carry your own weight.

Demanding someone else pay for your college is the selfish, lazy attitude of the person who can't bother to study or work hard, the kind of person who blames others for his own poor decisions.

And your line about how aristocrats think makes me wonder if you slept through History. The problem with Aristocrats was not that they supported education or not, it's that they blundered in thinking the world needed them. In the real world, you make your own future, whatever your beginnings, and the ones who succeed bust their butt to create their dreams; they don't sit around whining how someone else "owes" them a future..

All my stars RD2.

Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

---

If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

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So when you imply that Trump hates black people, what you really mean is that you hate Robert E. Lee. Thanks for clearing that up!

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I am a southern. I believe he was a great general I don't hate him but I don't honor him or salute him. He was a traitor and yes dt hates all kinds of skin except white.

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

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I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

Waco1947 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

---

If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

---

So when you imply that Trump hates black people, what you really mean is that you hate Robert E. Lee. Thanks for clearing that up!

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I am a southern. I believe he was a great general I don't hate him but I don't honor him or salute him. He was a traitor and yes dt hates all kinds of skin except white.

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You hate white people more than anyone else on this board. At this point I am ready to trade you for Al Sharpton.

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

Waco1947 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

---

If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

---

So when you imply that Trump hates black people, what you really mean is that you hate Robert E. Lee. Thanks for clearing that up!

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I am a southern. I believe he was a great general I don't hate him but I don't honor him or salute him. He was a traitor and yes dt hates all kinds of skin except white.

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Nope. Poor Waco, so poor in his education, turns out he's as poor at History as he is in Theology.

Oldbear83 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Calling people names, lying, good people among white supremacists, calling a dictator a good guy.
That's inspiring?

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A lot of good people don't want statues of Robt E Lee removed. They aren't white supremacists.

---

If one wants a statue of a traitor in a public place one cannot be a good person. Should we have a statue of Benedict Arnold?

---

So when you imply that Trump hates black people, what you really mean is that you hate Robert E. Lee. Thanks for clearing that up!

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I am a southern. I believe he was a great general I don't hate him but I don't honor him or salute him. He was a traitor and yes dt hates all kinds of skin except white.

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Nope. Poor Waco, so poor in his education, turns out he's as poor at History as he is in Theology.

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And it's night and he's drunk again sure as sun rises in the east

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

---

It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

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I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

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How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

---

It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

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I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

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How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

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I buy water every month from a privately owned utility called Spring Hill Water. Why do you ask?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

---

It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

---

I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

---

How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

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I buy water every month from a privately owned utility called Spring Hill Water. Why do you ask?

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Do they get their water from a Corp of Engineers Lake or does it meet Federal or state or local specs for clean water? You are a citizen silly. You sound unpatriotic to me. That's sad.

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

---

It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

---

I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

---

How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

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I buy water every month from a privately owned utility called Spring Hill Water. Why do you ask?

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Do they get their water from a Corp of Engineers Lake or does it meet Federal or state or local specs for clean water? You are a citizen silly. You sound unpatriotic to me. That's sad.

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Wut? I sound unpatriotic because I buy my water from Spring Hill Water? Please elaborate.

Canada2017 said:

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The ' bidding war ' for the votes among the Dem contenders will only intensify in the coming months .

A. ' Free' health care
B. 'Reparations' for blacks ( Indians, Hispanics , vegans, Cleveland Brown fans etc )
C. 'Free' university tuition.
D. Debt forgiveness
E. 'Free monthly stipends for all Americans ( except those who insist on working )

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Wow... it looks even worse when you put it all together like this.
There is no doubt that the democrat party is the party of the lazy, free-loading mooch. Hard-working people of integrity are not welcome anymore.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

---

On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

---

It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

---

So you have your own fire department?

---

I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

---

How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

---

I buy water every month from a privately owned utility called Spring Hill Water. Why do you ask?

---

Do they get their water from a Corp of Engineers Lake or does it meet Federal or state or local specs for clean water? You are a citizen silly. You sound unpatriotic to me. That's sad.

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Wut? I sound unpatriotic because I buy my water from Spring Hill Water? Please elaborate.

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Waco is a Socialist. Free Enterprise bugs the hell into him.

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Buddha Bear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Your kids won the lottery."

Nope, his kids has responsible parents and learned work ethic.

Big difference.

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On one hand people say "you gotta pay for your own way" through school. "Those loans for tuition were your own decision"

On the other hand, some parent's give 18 year old adults a free college education. It may or may not be deserved. Just because the parents have learned work ethic doesn't mean the kids did.

I don't want hear complaints that millennials are wanting "free stuff" if you put your kids through college. That's called free stuff as well. It's nice that you're able to ease that burden, but free stuff is free stuff, even when it came from your parents.

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It is my job to take care of my family, not the government's (taxpayer's) job.

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So you have your own fire department?

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I have some five gallon buckets and a water hose. Does that count? Should my house catch fire, I will probably not sit on my ass waiting for them to get there. That is the difference between you and me.

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How does the water arrive at your home? You have a well?

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I buy water every month from a privately owned utility called Spring Hill Water. Why do you ask?

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Do they get their water from a Corp of Engineers Lake or does it meet Federal or state or local specs for clean water? You are a citizen silly. You sound unpatriotic to me. That's sad.

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I have a well.
My fire dept is a VOLUNTEER FD, not a government run organization.

What do you have to say to me?

And there is a HUGE difference between providing water sources, fire departments, police services,.... and "free" college tuition. All of those other services are necessary to save & sustain life. Higher education is not.
There is also a huge difference between services which are provided on the very local level (police & fire), and anything that the federal government attempts to provide (the VA, immigration cluster****, tax codes that are thousands of pages long). The local level has much more accountability and efficiency. The larger the government entity, the less of both.

College level education was never intended for everyone. We have K-12 for that. The problem is that the leftists have destroyed K-12 over the past 60+ years. We used to turn out HS grads who could do complex math (Algebra, Geometry, and even Trig) with nothing more than a pencil and maybe a slide ruler. Now we have HS grads who can barely read, and many who think our planet will be destroyed in 12 years because the weather keeps changing.

We do not need to extend high school into 4 years of college. The standards in K-12 and in college need to be going up, not down. We need to get government OUT of higher education, not further and further into it.