Mueller/Barr Letter and Riff

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Doc Holliday
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.

The legalese behind these claims are garbage.

Why didn't Mueller charge?
Doc Holliday
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You stupid leftists don't care about foreign interference.

Dianne Feinstein had a Chinese spy working for her for 20 years we found out about in 2018 and most of you don't even know about it.
JusHappy2BeHere
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Doc Holliday said:

You Democrats are at ROCK BOTTOM.

All you have left is a hopeless attempt at removing a duly elected President.
You just downgraded to congress who really has no power.

Your policies, ideas, thoughts are not resonating with sane Americans.

I actually feel sorry for you, but you deserve to lose for the rest of your life and you will.
oh no we're doomed

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
JusHappy2BeHere
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Doc Holliday said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.

The legalese behind these claims are garbage.

Why didn't Mueller charge?
DOJ policy
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Doc Holliday
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.

The legalese behind these claims are garbage.

Why didn't Mueller charge?
DOJ policy
Nope. Mueller/Weissman were trying to make an obstruction case based on a charge that Weismman tried to use back in his Enron days in which he was overturned by the SCOTUS 9-0 and publicly humiliated for even trying.

It has nothing to do with corruption and everything to do with being a weak case.
Johnny Bear
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Doc Holliday said:

You Democrats are at ROCK BOTTOM.

All you have left is a hopeless attempt at removing a duly elected President.
You just downgraded to congress who really has no power.

Your policies, ideas, thoughts are not resonating with sane Americans.

I actually feel sorry for you, but you deserve to lose for the rest of your life and you will.
I'm well into my 6th decade on this earth and I don't think I've ever seen a more extreme example of desperately "grasping at straws" as this whole sorry attempted persecution of a duly and fairly elected POTUS has become.

As far as your last sentence goes, I hope you are right, but don't discount the fact that there are a LOT of voters and future voters out there that fall into or will fall into one or more of the following categories:

-Ignorant and uninformed.
-Brainwashed by years of unchallenged liberal indoctrination in public schools, colleges, and universities.
-People that believe the main purpose of government is to "take care of them" from cradle to grave.

And sadly their numbers are growing.
GoneGirl
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Johnny Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

You Democrats are at ROCK BOTTOM.

All you have left is a hopeless attempt at removing a duly elected President.
You just downgraded to congress who really has no power.

Your policies, ideas, thoughts are not resonating with sane Americans.

I actually feel sorry for you, but you deserve to lose for the rest of your life and you will.
I'm well into my 6th decade on this earth and I don't think I've ever seen a more extreme example of desperately "grasping at straws" as this whole sorry attempted persecution of a duly and fairly elected POTUS has become.

As far as your last sentence goes, I hope you are right, but don't discount the fact that there are a LOT of voters and future voters out there that fall into or will fall into one or more of the following categories:

-Ignorant and uninformed.
-Brainwashed by years of unchallenged liberal indoctrination in public schools, colleges, and universities.
-People that believe the main purpose of government is to "take care of them" from cradle to grave.

And sadly their numbers are growing.
Between the Russians, Comey and GOP efforts at voter supression in many states, I have serious questions about "duly and fairly elected POTUS."

And this isn't the first time the GOP has benefitted from a suspect electoral process. SCOTUS elected our president in 2000.

We're about the same age, so we're old enough to remember Watergate. REPUBLICANS helped hold Nixon accountable. I certainly can't see that happening in today's hyperpartisan atmosphere.

I can also assure you that, in the event that Democrats gain control of Senate, Congress and win the presidency, I will then do everything in my power to make sure they respect the rule of law. You may disagree with their policies, but I will not tolerate policies enacted by lies (like asylum seekers are bringing a deluge of drugs across the border when most drugs are coming through airports and other legal entry points), obstruction (like what McConnell did to Merrick Garland), PR (Kavanaugh hired a PR agency that helped save his candidacy) or an attempt to bend over backwards to accommodate the chosen nominee of a party (Biden bent over backwards to be "fair" to Clarence Thomas, and now everyone openly acknowledges we have a guy who sexually harrassed his employees on SCOTUS).
riflebear
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Sam Lowry
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It's ironic that Mueller went to such spectacular lengths to avoid making substantive conclusions and is now complaining that Barr failed to capture the substance of his conclusions.
Johnny Bear
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Jinx 2 said:

Johnny Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

You Democrats are at ROCK BOTTOM.

All you have left is a hopeless attempt at removing a duly elected President.
You just downgraded to congress who really has no power.

Your policies, ideas, thoughts are not resonating with sane Americans.

I actually feel sorry for you, but you deserve to lose for the rest of your life and you will.
I'm well into my 6th decade on this earth and I don't think I've ever seen a more extreme example of desperately "grasping at straws" as this whole sorry attempted persecution of a duly and fairly elected POTUS has become.

As far as your last sentence goes, I hope you are right, but don't discount the fact that there are a LOT of voters and future voters out there that fall into or will fall into one or more of the following categories:

-Ignorant and uninformed.
-Brainwashed by years of unchallenged liberal indoctrination in public schools, colleges, and universities.
-People that believe the main purpose of government is to "take care of them" from cradle to grave.

And sadly their numbers are growing.
Between the Russians, Comey and GOP efforts at voter supression in many states, I have serious questions about "duly and fairly elected POTUS."

And this isn't the first time the GOP has benefitted from a suspect electoral process. SCOTUS elected our president in 2000.

We're about the same age, so we're old enough to remember Watergate. REPUBLICANS helped hold Nixon accountable. I certainly can't see that happening in today's hyperpartisan atmosphere.

I can also assure you that, in the event that Democrats gain control of Senate, Congress and win the presidency, I will then do everything in my power to make sure they respect the rule of law. You may disagree with their policies, but I will not tolerate policies enacted by lies (like asylum seekers are bringing a deluge of drugs across the border when most drugs are coming through airports and other legal entry points), obstruction (like what McConnell did to Merrick Garland), PR (Kavanaugh hired a PR agency that helped save his candidacy) or an attempt to bend over backwards to accommodate the chosen nominee of a party (Biden bent over backwards to be "fair" to Clarence Thomas, and now everyone openly acknowledges we have a guy who sexually harrassed his employees on SCOTUS).
Keep grasping at straws and "having serious questions" all you want, but after exhaustive and thorough attempts over two years to find any shred of wrong doing on the part of Trump, his campaign, or his administration, your side has found zip, zero, notta. You've got nothing other than a desire to destroy a Presidency because you didn't like the winner.

Granted, I was a kid and an early adolescent, but I'm also old enough to recall how the DEMOCRATS (or for that matter the Republicans too) didn't hold JFK and LBJ accountable for doing things like using the IRS to target and destroy political enemies and having multiple affairs (as sitting Presidents). In JFK's case the affairs included a mafia boss's mistress and previously as a Senator, an East German spy. These two made Nixon look like a piker, but of course a double standard was in play from both the DEMOCRATS and the media. So don't give me this garbage about DEMOCRATS "respecting the rule of law".

And NO......"everybody" doesn't agree that Clarence Thomas sexually harassed his employees. Geez, what planet do you live on??

What you are ultimately doing is supporting an effort to disenfranchise the votes of 63 million Americans, so you can also forget about your ridiculous "voter suppression" nonsense as well. You are worse than a fan of a team that lost the Super Bowl by 3 touchdowns saying "it was the refs fault!!".
GoneGirl
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Hope they play this at Barr's testimony.
GoneGirl
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Johnny Bear said:


Geez, what planet do you live on??

The one that's getting warmer while Republicans wallow in the Trump trough.
Golem
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Sam Lowry said:

It's ironic that Mueller went to such spectacular lengths to avoid making substantive conclusions and is now complaining that Barr failed to capture the substance of his conclusions.


Mueller issues:

1. Barr was completely accurate in his characterization of the report
2. Barr didn't prosecute because there was not evidence to do so
3. Barr didn't say that Trump was a mean mean dooodiehead who was mean and a doodiehead and you should know he was mean.
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Jinx you are usually better than this.....

So far you have brought in a laundry list of complaints about Trump and McConnell that are off topic. If there are emmoulent violations it has nothing to do with the Mueller probe. McConnel stiffing Garland has nothing to do with the Mueller probe, global warming has nothing to do with the Mueller probe; I could go on and on.

If Mueller felt strongly, he should have recommended DOJ prosecute on said violations. Instead he said no collusion and deferred obstruction to the DOJ. It sounds like, despite not disputing the Barr summary, he's upset with how it was received.

In any case that matters not with the report out there for public consumption.

For me I'm upset that a presidential campaign was spied upon (through a variety of means) by the opposition party. The grounds for said spying was all smoke and mirrors. The Mueller report proves that.
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BearFan33 said:

Jinx you are usually better than this.....

So far you have brought in a laundry list of complaints about Trump and McConnell that are off topic. If there are emmoulent violations it has nothing to do with the Mueller probe. McConnel stiffing Garland has nothing to do with the Mueller probe, global warming has nothing to do with the Mueller probe; I could go on and on.

If Mueller felt strongly, he should have recommended DOJ prosecute on said violations. Instead he said no collusion and deferred obstruction to the DOJ. It sounds like, despite not disputing the Barr summary, he's upset with how it was received.

In any case that matters not with the report out there for public consumption.

For me I'm upset that a presidential campaign was spied upon (through a variety of means) by the opposition party. The grounds for said spying was all smoke and mirrors. The Mueller report proves that.
Well said.
redfish961
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."
Took the time time watch a couple of hours of CNN/MSNBC, my goodness the poison you are filled with if you watch those all the time.

They have one objective, get the Trumps.
It's insane right?!

They're so unhinged that they don't realize they're crazy.

Unhinged is actually an understatement, it's just hour after hour of it. Yes, they are crazy, you can see the mindset in real time that has to be present in totalitarian regimes. They have no anchor.
good thing those that watch Fox aren't like that
I split my time between both to try to get a balanced view because both are biased.

That being said, CNN is heavily biased and Fox, not near as much.

CNN is a nonstop Democratic Party outlet and very anti-Trump/Republican everytime, all the time.

Fox is definitely Republican biased, but the spin is nowhere near as heavy...At least they do allow other opinions without attacks at times and they aren't always Pro Trump/Republican.
Johnny Bear
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redfish961 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

Forest Bueller said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."
Took the time time watch a couple of hours of CNN/MSNBC, my goodness the poison you are filled with if you watch those all the time.

They have one objective, get the Trumps.
It's insane right?!

They're so unhinged that they don't realize they're crazy.

Unhinged is actually an understatement, it's just hour after hour of it. Yes, they are crazy, you can see the mindset in real time that has to be present in totalitarian regimes. They have no anchor.
good thing those that watch Fox aren't like that
I split my time between both to try to get a balanced view because both are biased.

That being said, CNN is heavily biased and Fox, not near as much.

CNN is a nonstop Democratic Party outlet and very anti-Trump/Republican everytime, all the time.

Fox is definitely Republican biased, but the spin is nowhere near as heavy...At least they do allow other opinions without attacks at times and they aren't always Pro Trump/Republican.
Exactly - especially on their non-opinion news side. People who think that the liberal viewpoint doesn't get presented on Fox News - and presented often - are people that don't watch Fox News beyond occasional sound bites (that are often taken out of context). The difference is Fox News also (obviously) allows the conservative viewpoint to be presented often as well - without getting shouted down or viciously attacked - and when that happens the liberal viewpoint usually gets exposed as the 100% emotion based and otherwise impractical position that it is.
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I just watched Barr's interaction with Sheldon Whitehouse and Barr is a badass. That guy just does not get rattled about anything and he makes his interrogators look like idiots. If I were the dems, I think I'd not spar with Barr.
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(DOJ/FBI/State Department/Whitehouse) attempted to use Joseph Misfud, while posing as a Russian spy(He wasn't) to PLANT information on a young Trump aide for the sole purpose of extracting that information from him later simply to create a case.

The operation positioned Joseph Mifsud as a Russian spy; has him plant information on George Papadopoulos; then uses U.S. and AU operatives to withdraw the information; thereby giving the appearance that a Trump campaign official, Papadopoulos, was receiving and passing-on Russian intelligence. This is the CIA justification for creating the EC. This is the CIA cover story.
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Well done Cruz. Mocking the Dems for the absurdity they are.
There are actually some 2020 Dom candidates calling for impeachment over this. They are so unhinged and desperate they don't even see how stupid they are. They know their voters will believe what they say which is even worse.



Osodecentx
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Jinx 2 said:

That's a question for Congress. Which should have access to the full report, with no redactions.
0.1 of 1% was redacted
Forest Bueller
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If the dems want to go totally clown show they should send out AOC and Omar for follow up questioning.

AOC can tell him how "tough" she is because she "grew up" in the Bronx and Omar can let him know in no uncertain terms, this is no country for white people. Then they can both "clap back" into the air, and complain about other things that they have made up in their heads.
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Jinx 2 said:



I can also assure you that, in the event that Democrats gain control of Senate, Congress and win the presidency, I will then do everything in my power to make sure they respect the rule of law.
Eric Holder and Lois Lerner say hi.
redfish961
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Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

That's a question for Congress. Which should have access to the full report, with no redactions.
0.1 of 1% was redacted
To me, who cares?

Redacted/Unredacted, still the same conclusion.

I watched the hearing and while some asked meaningful questions aimed at gaining information, others went on a tirade ending in requests for recusals and resignation without asking any meaningful question. Instead, they chose to attack and ask the Attorney General about his thoughts and feelings.

He's the Attorney General, he's not supposed to act on thoughts or feelings.

I'm not partisan by any stretch, but geez, some of these clowns are making me turn that way.

I voted for Obama first term, and Trump for this term because of one main reason...I am part of the ABC club...Anyone but Clinton.

That being said, speaking for myself, I wish we would slow these silly hearings that go nowhere down, quit inventing costly investigations, and start putting our Government attention on real problems.

After a couple of years of this crap to get a big nothing burger pretty much pisses me off. If you can't make a determination after that period of time with all of the support one could be given, then I would have to believe, there's not enough there.
ABC BEAR
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I'm glad the regressives can be mesmerized so easily by minutia while Trump's approval numbers soar. The last thing we need are regressives doing their job and tinkering with the economy.
Jack and DP
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Dems, time to own your LOSS and move on.
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.

The legalese behind these claims are garbage.

Why didn't Mueller charge?
DOJ policy


Or, a President cannot "obstruct justice" by using his Article II powers.

I know that is over your head but, sucks to be you.
cinque
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Doc Holliday said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jinx 2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Mueller sent two letters to Barr, and Barr intentionally sat on Mueller's executive summaries, while testifying to Congress that he did not know if Mueller approved of his 4pg "summary". These letters sure make Barr's testimony sound an awful lot like a deliberate lie to Congress.

"When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not but felt that the media coverage of it was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

At first the line was "if Mueller disagrees let him say so", as if Barr citing 1/3 of a single sentence written by Mueller wasn't shady enough, and now we find out that Mueller did speak up to Barr the next day after the Barr letter. When it was originally reported that Mueller's investigators took issue with the Barr letter, y'all whined about anonymous sources. Now, when Mueller actually puts his name to a letter calling Barr out, it's time to trust anonymous sources engaging in CYA maneuvers again. Funny how that works.
You're pushing fake news and you don't even realize it.

How many times are you going to fall for Democrat created narratives?

Mueller wanted the report to be released piecemeal to inflict the most political damage possible, since it contained no actual wrongdoing on the part of the president. This letter is pure politics.

The report was released almost two weeks ago. Very few redactions. Minimal. Only those required by law. Apparently you haven't looked at it.
Trump is your political pope. As long as he advances an agenda you approve of, he can do no wrong. If he flouts, skirts, obstructs or outright violates the law, you'll excuse that because you support him.

If Democrats controlled the media, Hillary would be president right now. The truth is nonpartisan.
Show me where he has broken the law.

YOU CANT.

The legalese behind these claims are garbage.

Why didn't Mueller charge?
You haven't read the report and it shows.
Make Racism Wrong Again
HuMcK
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Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.
Doc Holliday
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HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.
HuMcK
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Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
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redfish961 said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

That's a question for Congress. Which should have access to the full report, with no redactions.
0.1 of 1% was redacted
To me, who cares?

Redacted/Unredacted, still the same conclusion.

I watched the hearing and while some asked meaningful questions aimed at gaining information, others went on a tirade ending in requests for recusals and resignation without asking any meaningful question. Instead, they chose to attack and ask the Attorney General about his thoughts and feelings.

He's the Attorney General, he's not supposed to act on thoughts or feelings.

I'm not partisan by any stretch, but geez, some of these clowns are making me turn that way.

I voted for Obama first term, and Trump for this term because of one main reason...I am part of the ABC club...Anyone but Clinton.

That being said, speaking for myself, I wish we would slow these silly hearings that go nowhere down, quit inventing costly investigations, and start putting our Government attention on real problems.

After a couple of years of this crap to get a big nothing burger pretty much pisses me off. If you can't make a determination after that period of time with all of the support one could be given, then I would have to believe, there's not enough there.

But 4 years on Benghazi was money well spent and totally worthwhile?

btw, the Mueller Investigation at least broke even thanks to Manafort
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Osodecentx
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HuMcK said:

Doc Holliday said:

HuMcK said:

Told y'all he was spooked by the staff counsel questioning plan. Now let's see how far this escalates.

He's not spooked.

Democrats we're being extremely disrespectful and he isn't putting up with it.

Lol sure, that must be why he balked at targeted questioning by a staff counsel instead of the usual grandstanding questions by politicians. Remember when Hillary turned down a Congressional summons during the Benghazi hearings because Republicans were "disrespectful" towards her? Oh wait no that's not right, Hillary wasn't a cowardly little btch like this administration is, so she actually sat for 11hrs of testimony.
I don't remember, but did staff question Clinton?
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

redfish961 said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

That's a question for Congress. Which should have access to the full report, with no redactions.
0.1 of 1% was redacted
To me, who cares?

Redacted/Unredacted, still the same conclusion.

I watched the hearing and while some asked meaningful questions aimed at gaining information, others went on a tirade ending in requests for recusals and resignation without asking any meaningful question. Instead, they chose to attack and ask the Attorney General about his thoughts and feelings.

He's the Attorney General, he's not supposed to act on thoughts or feelings.

I'm not partisan by any stretch, but geez, some of these clowns are making me turn that way.

I voted for Obama first term, and Trump for this term because of one main reason...I am part of the ABC club...Anyone but Clinton.

That being said, speaking for myself, I wish we would slow these silly hearings that go nowhere down, quit inventing costly investigations, and start putting our Government attention on real problems.

After a couple of years of this crap to get a big nothing burger pretty much pisses me off. If you can't make a determination after that period of time with all of the support one could be given, then I would have to believe, there's not enough there.

But 4 years on Benghazi was money well spent and totally worthwhile?

btw, the Mueller Investigation at least broke even thanks to Manafort

I'm not talking about Benghazi and I think that's part of the problem.

We always want to revert to some event in the past in order to attempt to justify the present actions. All in an effort to support ones "party", no matter what and no matter right or wrong.

That sword cuts both ways and is done by both party's supporters. It seriously impedes progress.

All one has to do is watch the hearing and it's pretty obvious who is there to get information and who is there to spend their entire allotted time to berate and insult while gaining zero information or even attempting to gain information.

A couple of Senators really stood out and it's the usual ones who are just there to bicker. Blumenthal and Hinoso (sp?) were way over the top and a disgrace.

Others like Kamala Harris and Booker actually did what they were supposed to be doing and did gain some input.

I can understand being aggressive and sometimes that is necessary, but those 2 clowns and their tactics were useless and a waste of time.

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redfish961 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

redfish961 said:

Osodecentx said:

Jinx 2 said:

That's a question for Congress. Which should have access to the full report, with no redactions.
0.1 of 1% was redacted
To me, who cares?

Redacted/Unredacted, still the same conclusion.

I watched the hearing and while some asked meaningful questions aimed at gaining information, others went on a tirade ending in requests for recusals and resignation without asking any meaningful question. Instead, they chose to attack and ask the Attorney General about his thoughts and feelings.

He's the Attorney General, he's not supposed to act on thoughts or feelings.

I'm not partisan by any stretch, but geez, some of these clowns are making me turn that way.

I voted for Obama first term, and Trump for this term because of one main reason...I am part of the ABC club...Anyone but Clinton.

That being said, speaking for myself, I wish we would slow these silly hearings that go nowhere down, quit inventing costly investigations, and start putting our Government attention on real problems.

After a couple of years of this crap to get a big nothing burger pretty much pisses me off. If you can't make a determination after that period of time with all of the support one could be given, then I would have to believe, there's not enough there.

But 4 years on Benghazi was money well spent and totally worthwhile?

btw, the Mueller Investigation at least broke even thanks to Manafort

I'm not talking about Benghazi and I think that's part of the problem.

We always want to revert to some event in the past in order to attempt to justify the present actions. All in an effort to support ones "party", no matter what and no matter right or wrong.

That sword cuts both ways and is done by both party's supporters. It seriously impedes progress.

All one has to do is watch the hearing and it's pretty obvious who is there to get information and who is there to spend their entire allotted time to berate and insult while gaining zero information or even attempting to gain information.

A couple of Senators really stood out and it's the usual ones who are just there to bicker. Blumenthal and Hinoso (sp?) were way over the top and a disgrace.

Others like Kamala Harris and Booker actually did what they were supposed to be doing and did gain some input.

I can understand being aggressive and sometimes that is necessary, but those 2 clowns and their tactics were useless and a waste of time.


and the GOP has gotten away with being partisan *******s for years and counted on the Democrats always being the better people and not paying it back.... At least this investigation paid for itself and put people in prison....

and I'm not saying this is you, but it does ring hollow when years of investigations that turned up nothing are just fine, but this one that ends in 200 indictments and or guilty pleas is a waste of time....

If Blumenthal and Hinoso were out of bounds then they may pay a price for that in the long run.... or not.... I'm guessing they did it because it plays well with their base back home and helps them get re-elected.... see GOP examples like Jordan, Olson, Ghomert, King, Grassley, Cruz, Johnson, and the Spineless Lindsey Graham....
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
 
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