quash said:Oldbear83 said:Are you that dense, or just that bitter? I brought up TPP in a trade discussion to point out that even liberals had problems with it, and because I read more widely than you seem to believe I do. That in no way means, nor did I say or imply, that I wholly agreed with the paper's conclusions. My statements all along have been consistent on the dubious quality of activists' claims and the true nature of the issue, but you were busy looking to argue rather than learn anything.quash said:I don't know or care if it will or won't. I didn't bring the environment into this thread, you did when linked that liberal anti-trade website. Shoulda read before pasting...Oldbear83 said:quash said:Wrong. You cut this part out when you quoted me, but it shows you got my stance exactly backward.Oldbear83 said:And I said at the time that was not my reason for opposing TPP. I don't believe TPP would do a damn thing to stop climate change, so since you brought it up as a way to stop climate change, it's still in your court to say how it does that.quash said:Oldbear83 said:
Quash: "The TPP has already been mentioned"
How, specifically, would a treaty like TPP reduce CO2 emissions?
Beats me. You chose to post opposition to the TPP via a link that said the TPP might increase global warming.
Here's my quote: "Personally, I'm willing to trade a small increase in global warming for the economic benefits of decreased union influence, increased corporate influence (since they are the ones with skin in the game, especially as to IP) and no stifling regulations to protect unions and the environment. Leave those to sovereign nations."
So which of the 6 liberal points in your Roosevelt Institute link were you relying on to oppose the TPP?
Sounds like you are admitting the TPP won't help the environment.
It's blindingly apparent that you don't even have a decent guess about what would really lessen the effects of climate change you obsess on so much, which is consistent with your own habit of flinging things without looking to see what they were first. You have told everyone here much about your thinking style and the character of your argument.
What is your real reason for opposing the TPP?
Why indeed.