Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
Read my posts here. I have been specific and clear.TexasScientist said:Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
What is your definition of a Darwinist?
For such a good Christian man, you really seem to enjoy calling people names. But, I'll forgive you.Oldbear83 said:Read my posts here. I have been specific and clear.TexasScientist said:Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
What is your definition of a Darwinist?
And yes, you are very much a bigot, just one in deep denial.
I am speaking of your behavior. That's identification, not "name-calling"TexasScientist said:For such a good Christian man, you really seem to enjoy calling people names. But, I'll forgive you.Oldbear83 said:Read my posts here. I have been specific and clear.TexasScientist said:Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
What is your definition of a Darwinist?
And yes, you are very much a bigot, just one in deep denial.
Like I said. I forgive you.Oldbear83 said:I am speaking of your behavior. That's identification, not "name-calling"TexasScientist said:For such a good Christian man, you really seem to enjoy calling people names. But, I'll forgive you.Oldbear83 said:Read my posts here. I have been specific and clear.TexasScientist said:Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
What is your definition of a Darwinist?
And yes, you are very much a bigot, just one in deep denial.
Funny, I thought a scientist would understand the definitions of words better than that, but I expect your bigotry colors your perception.
Kind of like getting absolution from a Kleagle, that.TexasScientist said:Like I said. I forgive you.Oldbear83 said:I am speaking of your behavior. That's identification, not "name-calling"TexasScientist said:For such a good Christian man, you really seem to enjoy calling people names. But, I'll forgive you.Oldbear83 said:Read my posts here. I have been specific and clear.TexasScientist said:Disbelief is not hatred. Debating a differing view is not intolerance or bigotry. I'm no more intolerant or bigoted toward your ideas or beliefs than you are toward mine.Oldbear83 said:
You are a Darwinist who is bigoted against Christianity. I have not missed nor misconveyed what you said, merely exposed your assumptions and hatred.
You need to put away your hate, if you want a clearer understanding of the truth.
What is your definition of a Darwinist?
And yes, you are very much a bigot, just one in deep denial.
Funny, I thought a scientist would understand the definitions of words better than that, but I expect your bigotry colors your perception.
Only as one who has opposed bigots my whole life.TexasScientist said:
I guess you would know.
There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
TS once again betrays both his bigotry and limited scope of education.TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
Both serve valid purposes. Have you considered that ?TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
I have. Science does, and religion doesn't anymore.Oldbear83 said:Both serve valid purposes. Have you considered that ?TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others. Applied religious based morality produces some of the most reprehensible inequities and actions observed in humanity.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
If there is an all powerful god looking out for you with healing power, why would you waist your time relying on the limitations of human derived medical science for your health? Just trust god for the miracle of healing. What better testament to his existence is there?curtpenn said:More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
All truth is God's truth.
If.TexasScientist said:Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
TexasScientist said:If there is an all powerful god looking out for you with healing power, why would you waist your time relying on the limitations of human derived medical science for your health? Just trust god for the miracle of healing. What better testament to his existence is there?curtpenn said:More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
All truth is God's truth.
The evidence of reality is where can find truth.
TexasScientist said:Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others. Applied religious based morality produces some of the most reprehensible inequities and actions observed in humanity.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
Such blindness will only hinder your journeyTexasScientist said:I have. Science does, and religion doesn't anymore.Oldbear83 said:Both serve valid purposes. Have you considered that ?TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
Better than a cleric telling you what is moral or not.Sam Lowry said:If.TexasScientist said:Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
We should trust the makers of Zyklon B and Agent Orange over people who spent their lives considering the consequences of moral decisions?TexasScientist said:Better than a cleric telling you what is moral or not.Sam Lowry said:If.TexasScientist said:Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
If you were created in his image, you would be invisible. Some of his characteristics apparently are really bad, if that's where we get them.curtpenn said:TexasScientist said:If there is an all powerful god looking out for you with healing power, why would you waist your time relying on the limitations of human derived medical science for your health? Just trust god for the miracle of healing. What better testament to his existence is there?curtpenn said:More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
All truth is God's truth.
The evidence of reality is where can find truth.
Almost everything you say is some variant of false dilemma and/or straw man arguments.
We are created in His image and have some of His characteristics. It should come as no surprise that we increase in knowledge and ability. What better testament to His existence is there?
You really project your bias and ignorance when you post about religion, you know ...TexasScientist said:If you were created in his image, you would be invisible. Some of his characteristics apparently are really bad, if that's where we get them.curtpenn said:TexasScientist said:If there is an all powerful god looking out for you with healing power, why would you waist your time relying on the limitations of human derived medical science for your health? Just trust god for the miracle of healing. What better testament to his existence is there?curtpenn said:More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
All truth is God's truth.
The evidence of reality is where can find truth.
Almost everything you say is some variant of false dilemma and/or straw man arguments.
We are created in His image and have some of His characteristics. It should come as no surprise that we increase in knowledge and ability. What better testament to His existence is there?
TexasScientist said:If you were created in his image, you would be invisible. Some of his characteristics apparently are really bad, if that's where we get them.curtpenn said:TexasScientist said:If there is an all powerful god looking out for you with healing power, why would you waist your time relying on the limitations of human derived medical science for your health? Just trust god for the miracle of healing. What better testament to his existence is there?curtpenn said:More false dilemmas.TexasScientist said:Really? Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues, or science as a way of understanding in health issues?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
All truth is God's truth.
The evidence of reality is where can find truth.
Almost everything you say is some variant of false dilemma and/or straw man arguments.
We are created in His image and have some of His characteristics. It should come as no surprise that we increase in knowledge and ability. What better testament to His existence is there?
TexasScientist said:Better than a cleric telling you what is moral or not.Sam Lowry said:If.TexasScientist said:Science can and should be used to determine morality, if your moral goal is determining right and wrong with regard to causing harm to others, and the wellbeing of others.Sam Lowry said:No. That would be as ridiculous as trusting science as a way of understanding moral issues.TexasScientist said:Do you trust religion as a way of understanding in health issues...?curtpenn said:" Religion is derived from lack of understanding."TexasScientist said:And the only thing religion is, is a best guess set of fables consolidated and written down by certain groups of humans, who have pronounced it true, in order to diminish their existential angsts. Science is knowledge derived from testable explanations and predictions. Religion is derived from lack of understanding. I would much rather rely on the science of a parachute, than rely on religion's angels to land safely, notwithstanding any most recent religious best guess work.Oldbear83 said:I used common sense in my last post. Sad if you have not heard of that ...quash said:Science tells us the climate is unaffected by alcohol. Do you have a bible verse to support your odd position? Is this a drunk Noah banging his daughters/world flood thing?Oldbear83 said:Each to his own, but personally I would not start drinking before late afternoon. Bourbon for breakfast leads to unfortunate consequences.quash said:You have completely destroyed my faith in sciencism. As a result your internet will no longer work; x-rays will only be lethal, not diagnostic; when your lost dog is taken to a vet the chip will not be read; Mars has canals again; and Maury Povich can no longer determine who the baby daddies are.Oldbear83 said:There, there, TS. No one is coming to take away your Darwin posters.TexasScientist said:
Zealously no doubt.
Sorry about your dog.
Just an observation based on the climate of your post, quash.
And using 'Science' as some kind of talisman is amusing. Ultimately, all 'Science' is the best, most recent, guess by some human or group of humans, sometimes based on evidence and experience and sometimes based on spitwads and arrogance.
No. Religion is a way of understanding.
Your parachute metaphor presents a false dilemma.
