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Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)

Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.

Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.

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Another shut down is necessary.

Too many morons taking chances .

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JMHO...

I much prefer a targeted shut down. People in the at risk need to remain on self-imposed lockdown. Nursing homes have to be protected. People under 50 that are healthy and skinny won't need many ICU beds so they can determine their need to pull back. People need to make money to house and feed families and not all people are at the same risk level, so we don't need the same level of lockdown for all people. The protests were super spreader events like Mardi Gras was. No more of that for a while out of self preservation please.

Somebody in charge should level with Texans and tell the truth about the peril associated with indoor group gatherings where physical distancing cannot be guaranteed. If widespread infections are a certainty, they should be disallowed.

Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

Starting to hit judges and court staff.

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Bloomberg Markets Live Blog: Stocks leaped into the green in the last hour of trading after fluctuating throughout the session as Covid-19 continues to spread nationwide. The late surge appeared to be tied to big buy programs that kicked in after encouraging comments from Houston hospital executives about the city's treatment capacity after the state's governor halted efforts to reopen. Meanwhile,

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https://www.hellowoodlands.com/houston-hospitals-share-joint-statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-executive-order/

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On Thursday, June 25, 2020, the following joint statement was shared from St. Luke's Health, Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System & Texas Children's Hospital regarding Houston hospital capacity and executive order.

CEOs across the Texas Medical Center have monitored the ongoing transmission of COVID-19 in our community and across the state since the earliest days of this pandemic. In response to the recent increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, we want to reassure the public that this pandemic is not eclipsing our capabilities. Our hospitals have the ICU capacity, staff and supplies to meet the healthcare needs of our community. In addition, Texas hospitals continue to reserve 15 percent of capacity for COVID-19 patients and medical care continues to be routinely provided in inpatient and outpatient settings without taxing the overall hospitalization capacity.

We realize that the letter issued by the Texas Medical Center yesterday afternoon caused unnecessary alarm. Our intent was to educate Houstonians and not alarm them about capacity, which is not an immediate concern.
This morning, the governor issued an executive order restricting elective surgeries across several Texas counties, including Harris County. We respect what the governor is doing to fight this terrible virus and we will continue to work with him and local officials to care for our community.

It is our hope that the executive order will only be in place for a short period of time, as it is critically important that we continue to meet the health needs of our community.


Each hospital system has prepared for months to address the anticipated needs of this pandemic and has surge plans in place to successfully manage its own capacity to continue treating COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. Additionally, our hospitals are working together to manage capacity levels and ensure the highest quality care for all who need it. We will continue to work closely with state leadership and public health experts to help maintain statewide visibility on acute capacity issues and other critical concerns.

While this pandemic is unprecedented, our hospital systems have learned a lot, very quickly, and our coordinated efforts have allowed us to nimbly respond to this fluid situation. As leaders, we can attest to the heft, might, devotion and compassion of our workforce in caring for those with COVID-19 and those who arrive at our doors seeking care for other urgent medical needs. We are ready to serve the community and will do so in the safest way and environment possible. Through enhanced testing efforts, strict screening procedures and dedicated units to separate potentially infectious patients from the general population, hospital care is safe, ready and available for those who need it.

As we continue to navigate this pandemic, the public plays an essential role in helping preserve hospital capacity. It is critical to wear a mask or face covering anytime you leave your home, practice appropriate social distancing by avoiding large crowds and gatherings, wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds, and avoid touching your face.

Responding to emergencies with precision is a hallmark of Texas hospitals. Our mission and responsibility is to provide the care our community needs. We must maintain a thoughtful balance between caring for those impacted by COVID-19 and addressing all other healthcare needs of our community, including critical surgeries and procedures. We stand ready and committed to providing you and your family with the health care you need.

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Read that statement and then tell me what it means substantively.

People are being paid a lot of money to write that stuff

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Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)

Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.

Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.

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Another shut down is necessary.

Too many morons taking chances .

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JMHO...

I much prefer a targeted shut down. People in the at risk need to remain on self-imposed lockdown. Nursing homes have to be protected. People under 50 that are healthy and skinny won't need many ICU beds so they can determine their need to pull back. People need to make money to house and feed families and not all people are at the same risk level, so we don't need the same level of lockdown for all people. The protests were super spreader events like Mardi Gras was. No more of that for a while out of self preservation please.

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Fair enough .....now convince the virus .

Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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For example, up to 40 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 to 39 are obese, which may place them at increased risk for complications for COVID-19, he said.

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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I think it is true. Do you?

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Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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For example, up to 40 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 to 39 are obese, which may place them at increased risk for complications for COVID-19, he said.

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Nine of the top 10 hotspots in Texas are prisons/jails. High odds they were initially infected by staff. Real high.

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Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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For example, up to 40 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 to 39 are obese, which may place them at increased risk for complications for COVID-19, he said.

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Nine of the top 10 hotspots in Texas are prisons/jails. High odds they were initially infected by staff. Real high.

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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I think it is true. Do you?

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That gathering in large and often angry crowds (read: exhaling forcefully) with no social distancing will likely spread a respiratory infection? No ***** It's so blatantly obvious as to not be worth discussing with anyone blind enough to claim otherwise.

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Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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For example, up to 40 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 to 39 are obese, which may place them at increased risk for complications for COVID-19, he said.

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Nine of the top 10 hotspots in Texas are prisons/jails. High odds they were initially infected by staff. Real high.

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I suppose family members that came in for visitation would be a second way to get it unless they are limited to talking on a phone thru a plexiglass window.

UK 24 June 2020 9:30pm

Schools to scrap social distancing in September

Pupils will return to classes after summer in larger 'bubbles' without having to stay one metre apart

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/24/schools-scrap-social-distancing-september/

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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Its not inexplicable and it will be the GOPs narrative in the fall campaign: The resurgent virus is the fault of leftist protesters.

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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Its not inexplicable and it will be the GOPs narrative in the fall campaign: The resurgent virus is the fault of leftist protesters.

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FM's screen name is pretty ironic. Or just poorly chosen.

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Sure this is fake news .... you have to be a pretty closed-minded bigot to think the virus magically does not spread during close contact if you're protesting, looting, or rioting. I mean, this is in no way controversial. Sometimes digging in makes you look foolish.


https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066

Increasing numbers of Houston residents have reportedly been diagnosed with COVID-19 after attending protests against the death of George Floyd.

Large protests began in the city days after the death of Houston native Floyd, an unarmed black man who died while police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota on May 25. Texas has been experiencing a surge of new COVID-19 cases. Harris County, which encompasses Houston, has been adding hundreds of new cases each day to the more than 17,000 total confirmed cases reported as of Monday.

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Who here tried to convince you that protests weren't threats to spread COVID-19? You keep talking about these people like there were a bunch of them. From what I've seen, most on this board acknowledged the risk, weighed it against the legitimacy of the cause and formed their opinions accordingly.

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He's been inexplicably stuck on this for quite some time. It's his new talking point.

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Its not inexplicable and it will be the GOPs narrative in the fall campaign: The resurgent virus is the fault of leftist protesters.

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You believe the protests didn't spread the disease?

For those that are going to the gym

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/health/coronavirus-gyms-fitness.html

In Norway, Gymgoers Avoid Infections as Virus Recedes

In an unusual experiment, researchers found no coronavirus infections among thousands of people allowed to return to their gyms.

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The resolution on my computer won't allow me to read the last graph/time line you posted. Is there a link?

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The resolution on my computer won't allow me to read the last graph/time line you posted. Is there a link?

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If you click on the picture is should go full screen,. It does for me. When I post a link it turns it into the same imgae you see. Basically a chart of Austin that links the protests to the case increase. Chart of the obvious

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The resolution on my computer won't allow me to read the last graph/time line you posted. Is there a link?

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If you click on the picture is should go full screen,. It does for me. When I post a link it turns it into the same imgae you see. Basically a chart of Austin that links the protests to the case increase. Chart of the obvious

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Thanks. It worked

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The resolution on my computer won't allow me to read the last graph/time line you posted. Is there a link?

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If you click on the picture is should go full screen,. It does for me. When I post a link it turns it into the same imgae you see. Basically a chart of Austin that links the protests to the case increase. Chart of the obvious

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Thanks. It worked

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Tighter restrictions are going to translate into more job losses and layoffs. Some of the Care Act/ unemployment benefits expire the end of July. People are going to start running out of money and food. This coupled with the Left's nationwide war on law enforcement may cause crime to go through the roof. People should be prepared and protect themselves. Might be time to buy a little extra toilet paper and ammunition. We just gotta make it until November 3rd. Until then, anarchy and domestic terrorism are going to rule the day.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/news-from-the-non-lockdown-states-11592954700?fbclid=IwAR180LKwP7iB_1VtY3l_Xe71WMGAzDRm-7uLt2LXSjg03gyFh8ds4ntFQhM

A new analysis by The Sentinel, a Kansas nonprofit, compares the 42 states that shut down most of their economies with the eight that did not. The latter group includes mostly rural states with some small metropolitan areas: North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming and Utah. Private employment on average fell by 7.8% between May 2019 and May 2020 in these states while plunging 13.2% in the others.

Rural state economies generally rely more on "essential" services like agriculture and food production, and some industries like energy and hospitality would have shed jobs regardless of the lockdowns. Still, private job losses were higher in states that locked down like Colorado (9.5%) compared to economically similar ones that didn't like Utah (4.6%).

Yet per-capita Covid fatalities in states that stayed open were on average about 75% lower than those that locked down. One reason is that deaths in most states, regardless of whether they locked down, have been concentrated in nursing home facilities and minority communities that have higher rates of underlying health conditions and multigenerational housing.

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Another way of saying this is that per capita Covid deaths were less in states where social distancing is a way of life.

I am sure the rural countes in New York had much lower COvid per capita deaths than did NYC even though both suffered shut downs..

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The averages also obscure the fact that the non-lockdown states are spread across the lower half of the scale, while a few densely populated states are concentrated at the top. Iowa even edges its way into the upper half. So for every non-lockdown state with a supposedly low death rate, there are multiple lockdown states that did better.

As Jerry Springer said, "Take care of yourself, and each other."

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For those that are going to the gym

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/health/coronavirus-gyms-fitness.html

In Norway, Gymgoers Avoid Infections as Virus Recedes

In an unusual experiment, researchers found no coronavirus infections among thousands of people allowed to return to their gyms.

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These results are so qualified as to be almost meaningless. It sounds like they're designing other studies that may tell us more.

Shltting and Shooting

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Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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For example, up to 40 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 to 39 are obese, which may place them at increased risk for complications for COVID-19, he said.

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Nine of the top 10 hotspots in Texas are prisons/jails. High odds they were initially infected by staff. Real high.

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I suppose prisoners have been locked down

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I suppose family members that came in for visitation would be a second way to get it unless they are limited to talking on a phone thru a plexiglass window.

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Every jail I've ever been in, with one unusual exception. The women's jail for McLennan Co. allows you in the same room, but not until the prisoner has been handcuffed to the table.

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Southern states are at least smarter than NY NJ CA etc. and don't force COVID into nursing homes.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/06/25/COVID-19-outbreaks-in-South-significant-may-be-less-deadly-CDC-says/1501593100903/

COVID-19 outbreaks in South 'significant,' may be less deadly, CDC says

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June 25 (UPI) -- Ongoing outbreaks of COVID-19 in Arizona, California, Florida and Texas are "significant," but the younger average age of confirmed cases in these states might mean the "consequences" will be less severe, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention officials said Thursday.

Although California reported more than 7,000 new cases Wednesday, while Florida and Texas each added more than 5,000 and Arizona added 3,000, data from each of those states suggests that more than half of the new infections are in younger adults aged 20 to 49 years.

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Nine of the top 10 hotspots in Texas are prisons/jails. High odds they were initially infected by staff. Real high.

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I suppose prisoners have been locked down

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I suppose family members that came in for visitation would be a second way to get it unless they are limited to talking on a phone thru a plexiglass window.

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Every jail I've ever been in, with one unusual exception. The women's jail for McLennan Co. allows you in the same room, but not until the prisoner has been handcuffed to the table.

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Harwell (I believe) on HWY 6 allows it (used to be a privately owned jail)