Yes.BaylorFTW said:Is that because you don't think it is necessary or stubbornness or just have decided you will accept whatever may come and live as you always have?Midnight Rider said:
Hell, no.
How have you changed your life because of the coronavirus if at all?
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How have you changed your life because of the coronavirus if at all?
I'm gonna have to eat more frozen pizza and drink more beer to plow through my stockpile.
Well, ANA cancelled my wife's flight out of Hong Kong, have to go by way of Cathay Airlines through Singapore.Oldbear83 said:
Made plans at work to address potential scenarios.
My wife is coming back from Hong Kong next Thursday, we'll be in precautionary quarantine (working from home) for 2 weeks after that.
Aside from the mob of emotional hysteria by folks who can't understand history or context, no other changes.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
I've had no choice. My employer has just asked all employees to work from home for 2 weeks, cancelled all staff meetings, outside speakers and other events, ordered people to sit 6 feet apart at the few essential meetings, and is taking other actions. That said, I've been listening with irritation to a co-worker with a bad cough who keeps coming to work for 2 weeks now. Her boss urged her to go home; she just kept her office door almost closed. But she uses the same staff kitchen and rest room as everyone else. IMO, someone should have INSISTED she go home.
My husband just went to work full-time for one of his clients after workng for himself for 30 years. His employer just sent out an email asking employees to be prepared to work at home indefinitely if needed.
Both employers are in uncharted territory. They want to keep their employees and customers/clients safe and manage their legal liability, but they also need to keep going. My employer is approaching this with an abundance of caution because we provide healthcare services, which puts you in a whole different level of risk mitigation.
I'd planned a 10-day vacation and am sitting in an airport right now en route to Montana, where my daughter and I will ski at Big Sky. The flight was less full then I'd have expected. One colleague asked me how safe I felt about flying. I feel safer about a week of being outdoors and in a hotel with my daughter than I would at the office, honestly.
I suspect some organizations (like mine) would be taking fewer drastic measures if we'd gotten out in front of this with a clearer plan, but our leadership is murky and hamhanded. If this doesn't lose the election for Trump and other Republicans, shame on us all.
My husband just went to work full-time for one of his clients after workng for himself for 30 years. His employer just sent out an email asking employees to be prepared to work at home indefinitely if needed.
Both employers are in uncharted territory. They want to keep their employees and customers/clients safe and manage their legal liability, but they also need to keep going. My employer is approaching this with an abundance of caution because we provide healthcare services, which puts you in a whole different level of risk mitigation.
I'd planned a 10-day vacation and am sitting in an airport right now en route to Montana, where my daughter and I will ski at Big Sky. The flight was less full then I'd have expected. One colleague asked me how safe I felt about flying. I feel safer about a week of being outdoors and in a hotel with my daughter than I would at the office, honestly.
I suspect some organizations (like mine) would be taking fewer drastic measures if we'd gotten out in front of this with a clearer plan, but our leadership is murky and hamhanded. If this doesn't lose the election for Trump and other Republicans, shame on us all.
Sales is the last great American profession. You either sell or starve. In a country like this one where far too many people like to drop the pencil at the first chance (school closing, work from home ha ha) I wonder how successful Corporate America will be in getting people to return to work. I guess they can say come back or don't get paid.nein51 said:
I havent changed my personal lifestyle at all. However, I think it is about to very clearly change my professional lifestyle quite a bit whether I like it or not. I am face to face with 25-40 people a day on a customer basis and I doubt my company will allow that to continue. I was just discussing with my team that they should be thinking about how to be effective while working from home. That is tough for field sales people.
Somehow I think this is China's revenge for tariffs. IOW we ****ed you.
Has there been a single news item from Russia that has been concerned regarding their virus spread?
The repercussions are going to be huge economically. I booked a hotel we stay at regularly. It's usually around $300/night. It was $93. We are out at dinner downtown. It's usually packed everywhere. There are 3 tables in here right now. There's no way some of these small businesses survive.
It's the best example yet of why tariffs were needed.Aliceinbubbleland said:Somehow I think this is China's revenge for tariffs.nein51 said:
I havent changed my personal lifestyle at all. However, I think it is about to very clearly change my professional lifestyle quite a bit whether I like it or not. I am face to face with 25-40 people a day on a customer basis and I doubt my company will allow that to continue. I was just discussing with my team that they should be thinking about how to be effective while working from home. That is tough for field sales people.
We have to work our asses off to make sure this thing doesn't blow up, and the reward we get from people like you when we're successful is never a thanks but a "see it was never that bad to begin with"
F off Charlatan
F off Charlatan
Singapore Wins Praise For Its COVID-19 Strategy. The U.S. Does Not
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"Our response is much, much worse than almost any other country that's been affected," Ashish Jha, the head of Harvard Global Health Institute, said of the U.S. efforts to combat coronavirus.
He used "fiasco" and "mind-blowing" to describe how bad it is.
Hong Kong and Singapore were hit early with the coronavirus. But each now has fewer than 200 cases, while France, Germany and Spain, which were hit late, all have more than 10 times that number.
Three weeks ago, Italy had only three cases. Now it has more than 10,000.
These dramatic differences show that how governments respond to this virus matters, says Mike Ryan, the World Health Organization's head of emergencies.
"Hope is not a strategy," says Ryan, who is an epidemiologist. "We are still very much in the up cycle of this epidemic."
yawn
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Singapore is an island and maybe half the size of Tarrant county.
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
PartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
If you're going to work and the grocery store you might as well go wherever you want. If you're going to infect someone it would just as easy to do that at work or the grocery store as it would be at the mall.
I'm sure his point was that we should limit the number of times we go out, not where we go, in order to reduce the chances of exposure or transmission; so limit them for only the essentials.nein51 said:PartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
If you're going to work and the grocery store you might as well go wherever you want. If you're going to infect someone it would just as easy to do that at work or the grocery store as it would be at the mall.
If you're going to play roulette with one bullet you might as well play with six. If you're going to shoot someone it's just as easy from one chamber as it would be from another.nein51 said:PartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
If you're going to work and the grocery store you might as well go wherever you want. If you're going to infect someone it would just as easy to do that at work or the grocery store as it would be at the mall.
Except you wouldn't be exposing yourself to as many people if you limit your trips in public. In addition, if you aren't sick, by limiting where you go, you are also limiting your risk of encountering someone who is sick.nein51 said:PartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
If you're going to work and the grocery store you might as well go wherever you want. If you're going to infect someone it would just as easy to do that at work or the grocery store as it would be at the mall.
I think people are making the right decision to self quarantine when they can. I have seen schools and churches do this and think it sets a good example for the time being. Also, a number of companies have sent people home also and will have them work from home when possible.
Yeah, comparing reasonable caution to 'russian roulette" is soooo not buying into hysteria.Sam Lowry said:If you're going to play roulette with one bullet you might as well play with six. If you're going to shoot someone it's just as easy from one chamber as it would be from another.nein51 said:PartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
If you're going to work and the grocery store you might as well go wherever you want. If you're going to infect someone it would just as easy to do that at work or the grocery store as it would be at the mall.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
All courts in Travis and Williamson counties have closed until April at least, so that's a pretty big change from my usual routines.
My sex club closed for the next two weeks...that is really going impact my weekend plans.
nein51 said:
More time at the sex club. The way I see it, Corona Virus is the least of all of the viruses I am concerned about contracting there. Feels like a safe space really.
Slow clap...
Russia handled this better than any country. They completely closed their borders when the first outbreak happened in China. They had only a handful of cases.Aliceinbubbleland said:Sales is the last great American profession. You either sell or starve. In a country like this one where far too many people like to drop the pencil at the first chance (school closing, work from home ha ha) I wonder how successful Corporate America will be in getting people to return to work. I guess they can say come back or don't get paid.nein51 said:
I havent changed my personal lifestyle at all. However, I think it is about to very clearly change my professional lifestyle quite a bit whether I like it or not. I am face to face with 25-40 people a day on a customer basis and I doubt my company will allow that to continue. I was just discussing with my team that they should be thinking about how to be effective while working from home. That is tough for field sales people.
Somehow I think this is China's revenge for tariffs. IOW we ****ed you.
Has there been a single news item from Russia that has been concerned regarding their virus spread?
I'm sitting this out in Missoula, Montana. My daughter is in grad school at U of M, and I flew out Friday (the 13th, a harbinger), which may have been the last day airport/air travel was somewhat normal (= low-level misery starting with the line at the bag check kiosk, continuing through the line at TSA and the airport striptease, where you get to strip off our shoes next to the socks-and-crocs guy who is removing his belt, and then to the crowded bus-terminal seating, the constant blatting of announcements and TV screens, and then planes with seats specifically designed to spread communicable diseases).
We'd planned to spend this week at Big Sky after skiing at Discovery, a great family area near MIssoula where my daughter works weekends as a ski instructor. I skied at Discovery Saturday, took a day of rest Sunday and Big Sky notified us they were closing for the season and refunded our entire reservation at about 10 a.m. Sunday morning. Discovery doesn't depend on lodging and restaurants--it's a day trip area, but they do cater to weekday school groups, and that's no longer happening. But the area is still open, and if that holds, we will ski there and take some day hikes.
My employer had already asked that everyone who could work remotely until March 27, when they will reassess. By sheer accident, I've ended up in a good place to hunker down and sit this out.
Please, everyone, be safe.
We'd planned to spend this week at Big Sky after skiing at Discovery, a great family area near MIssoula where my daughter works weekends as a ski instructor. I skied at Discovery Saturday, took a day of rest Sunday and Big Sky notified us they were closing for the season and refunded our entire reservation at about 10 a.m. Sunday morning. Discovery doesn't depend on lodging and restaurants--it's a day trip area, but they do cater to weekday school groups, and that's no longer happening. But the area is still open, and if that holds, we will ski there and take some day hikes.
My employer had already asked that everyone who could work remotely until March 27, when they will reassess. By sheer accident, I've ended up in a good place to hunker down and sit this out.
Please, everyone, be safe.
Stay away from grandparentsPartyBear said:
I would encourage everyone to somewhat self quarantine except for work or grocery runs. You may be young and healthy and have it and never have a symptom and it goes away but you can give it to someone vulnerable to it being very serious even terminal.
Self quarantined at an undisclosed location
Hasn't happened yet, but I foresee most at my employer working remotely very soon.
Just had a difficult meeting with the boss. Talking about who to lay off.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:
Just had a difficult meeting with the boss. Talking about who to lay off.
The largest events planning company in Cleveland just laid off its entire staff. Think 2-300 people. We are still ok at the wife's business but I don't know how long we can go with 0 business. 90-120 we are probably ok because of prior obligations from customers (payments coming in).
At my job we are having a meeting at 5:30 where I suspect they will take us all out of the field until further notice.
Wife gets extra week of spring break. Visited two museums in KC (since games were cancelled) enjoyed meals out with friends at KC Joes BBQ and Bristol and two trips to Stroud. Drove over to Omaha to take 1L daughter to lunch. Drive back to Dallas (casinos in OK and Buc-ees doing booming business). Church on Sunday- congregants spread over several rooms to comply with directive. Worked out at gym this morning and now attempting to drum up work as my main source of income (sports) is on hold.
Ohio just announced closure of gyms, fitness centers, water parks...
I hope when this is all done there are businesses to come back to.
I hope when this is all done there are businesses to come back to.
The good ones, prudently managed and not overleveraged, will ride this out.nein51 said:
Ohio just announced closure of gyms, fitness centers, water parks...
I hope when this is all done there are businesses to come back to.
Jinx 2 said:The good ones, prudently managed and not overleveraged, will ride this out.nein51 said:
Ohio just announced closure of gyms, fitness centers, water parks...
I hope when this is all done there are businesses to come back to.
You manage about 30 franchisees and we deal with hundreds of service suppliers per week per franchise. I'm here to tell you that the vast majority of business owners in our sector that I come in contact with (and it's probably 30+ a day) are over leveraged and under capitalized. There is no doubt our customer base will shrink by 10-20% and it could be much greater than that depending on how long we quarantine. Today alone I had multiple 10k sales that didn't close from customers who want the product but refuse to invest right now.
Size matters. Small businesses cannot just "ride this out".Jinx 2 said:The good ones, prudently managed and not overleveraged, will ride this out.nein51 said:
Ohio just announced closure of gyms, fitness centers, water parks...
I hope when this is all done there are businesses to come back to.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
nein51 said:
More time at the sex club.
Is that what you call the "bathroom"? So, that's what all the toilet paper stockpiling is for!