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Whew, TS, you've got way too much time

Who do I need to talk to to recommend you get your science grant so you can get off unemployment?

You're overachieving with your TDS threads around here

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Not eligible for either one. Thank you though. I'm just doing my part to enlighten the Trump Cult with facts.

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" Dreadfully bored, so I enjoy presenting my opinions as facts on an internet message board . "

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LOL FIFY - " Dreadfully bored, so I enjoy presenting my opinions and facts on an internet message board . "

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My posts are perfection personified ....and as such are beyond the abilities of mere mortals to FIFY.

Superior talents acquired during my tenure as a research SCIENTIST........... decades ago.

You are now allowed to kiss my ring and depart.

Sin no more .

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From the time of day on your post, it appears you got a jump start on happy hour.

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There you go....still sinning .

This know all...see all ...former SCIENTIST ( genuflect now sinner ) doesn't drink .

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Don't you worry my friend. I've got your back. I drink enough for the both of us.

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Knew I could count on you to take up the slack !

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I'm behind on my slang, is "the slack" a beer, whiskey, or something else?

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The only other legal "slack" in Colorado is leafy and green. Hmmm??

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I really would not recommend smoking anything while this virus is a threat.

My country of about 600,000 has 55 cases (1 death) so far.

Texas continues to be behind, so OP was spot on: 4,669 cases. Continues to trail states with much smaller populations such as Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Mass..

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Texas still behind Florida, Louisiana, Michigan, Illinois, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania in addition to the biggies.

I guess the OP is right - we are behind.

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We're behind in testing, we're behind in knowing the true extent and distribution of the virus, and we're behind in preparedness. We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. We'll eventually catch up in numbers.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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My local hospital.

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At 2500 cases and 34 deaths in Texas, you'd think there would be some praise on how it has been handled.

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That's about where New York was 12 days ago, except they had half as many deaths.

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A city like New York is prime for a virus spread. People living on top of each other reliant upon public transportation. I'm willing to bet Texas won't get nearly as bad given measures taken thus far, and that infected people won't be crammed on buses and subways on their way to and from the hospital.

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It has flummoxed me that cities will not shut down public transportation. I am not a clinician, but that seems like a pretty significant means to spread any virus, especially one that can live outside the body on metal surfaces. Worse too, it de-localizes the spread. Most people usually go out close to home, but public transportation spreads it across the entire region. Dallas for example is still running DART, which means an infected person in South Dallas and spread it to Plano and vice versa.

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It's because for many without cars, it's the way we get around. If you shut down public transportation you also prevent first responders from getting to work. You stop the poor from accessing groceries. You cut off access If the essential worker to the essential work.

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I understand, but there seems to be tension being serious about fighting the spread of the virus. A true effort requires pain and inconvenience across the board, and closing it down seems like the right thing to do. Yes, it stinks - but all of this stinks.

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You can't fight this with 50% of the staff.

What is suggestion on how to get the $12 an hour hospital staff to work? They're unseen but they clean the rooms, wash the soiled sheets, turn the beds, sanitize the equipment. If you cut public transportation and in effect increase the number of people who call out (along with those who get sick), we all lose.

We agree we need to stop the non complainant from mucking you the gears.

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For hospital workers, school buses and PPE to and from work. Getting food to people without cars is a logistical challenge, but might be possible with some creative thinking.

To really contain this, we need massive, mandatory testing of asymptomatic people, followed by forced isolation of all who test positive. However, we don't have the testing capacity that would take.

TexasScientist said:

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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My local hospital.

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Yeah sure

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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You know answer to that don't you?

Rush said today there's about 20 patients on the NY giant Red Cross ship and few more on the California one

This is backdoor socialism scam

Stimulus money baby

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

For the first time Friday, Gov. Greg Abbott described the state's ventilator and hospital bed capacity in detail after fielding frequent questions in recent weeks about how Texas would manage a surge in COVID-19 cases.

Abbott said the state has 8,741 ventilators as well as 19,695 hospital beds available, up from Sunday when he'd said there were about 16,000 on hand. The nearly 20,000 beds represents about 41 percent of Texas' overall capacity of 47,585. In intensive care units, 2,107 beds are available statewide, he said.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/houston-hasn-t-reported-surge-coronavirus-cases-its-hospitals-tell-n1175291

Any more questions?
Time to stop pretending this isn't real and really bad.

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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From someone that works the ER in a local hospital. There are just over twice the number in just this one hospital to what is being reported for this community by the state. The lag appears about 4 -5 days behind.

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For the first time Friday, Gov. Greg Abbott described the state's ventilator and hospital bed capacity in detail after fielding frequent questions in recent weeks about how Texas would manage a surge in COVID-19 cases.

Abbott said the state has 8,741 ventilators as well as 19,695 hospital beds available, up from Sunday when he'd said there were about 16,000 on hand. The nearly 20,000 beds represents about 41 percent of Texas' overall capacity of 47,585. In intensive care units, 2,107 beds are available statewide, he said.

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The model then uses the best current estimates of how long someone is infectious (14 days); how many new cases each infected person causes (called the effective reproduction number, it's about 2.5); the percentage of Covid-19 patients who need to be hospitalized (5%, reflecting the fact that most people have only mild or moderate illness); the percentage who need to be in an ICU (2%) or on a ventilator (1%); and the length of stay for each of these three.

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With the percent needing a ventilator being 1%. And with the assumption there are 10X the cases as there are confirmed.

If Texas reaches confirmed active cases of 87,000 at some point, which with 29 million people is possible, we would start being neear having a shortage of ventilators. If NY needs some of them, when we reach capacity, that number could even be lower.

New York right now has 91,000+ active cases so it's possible.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

Here's quote from D.C. Bear's link posted above:
"Texas has ramped up testing in recent weeks, but it still lags behind nearly every other state in the country. On a per capita basis, New York state has tested residents at a rate seven times greater than Texas, according to an analysis of coronavirus testing figures and U.S. census data. Lengthy delays getting results have further slowed the process in Texas, forcing government officials to make decisions based on incomplete and outdated information."

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

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I take it in line with your other pronouncements, TS.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Same here.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

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I believe it, since it is assumed there are 10X as many cases as have been confirmed, there are a lot more people also in the Hospital from this than have been confirmed to have it.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Source please?

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

Here's quote from D.C. Bear's link posted above:
"Texas has ramped up testing in recent weeks, but it still lags behind nearly every other state in the country. On a per capita basis, New York state has tested residents at a rate seven times greater than Texas, according to an analysis of coronavirus testing figures and U.S. census data. Lengthy delays getting results have further slowed the process in Texas, forcing government officials to make decisions based on incomplete and outdated information."

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For someone purporting to be a scientist, you post more unverified, qualitative emotion outside of anyone not named Jinx or Waco47.

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Interestingly, you think everything I post purports or should purport to be scientifically proven. I post my opinions, I post others opinions, and I sometimes post scientific facts. I try to post in a manner where one can distinguish between them. You should learn to read a little more closely to make the distinction. I'd compare the accuracy and verifiability of my posts to yours anytime.

Lots of suspected cases in my area that have come back negative. So there is that as well. Case counts are confirmed cases only, and testing still takes awhile.

Tests are still running at 85% negative. That's still high and is proving to be a drain on resources. I do understand there's a redundant aspect to overall tests as some healthcare workers are getting tested multiple times as a safety precaution, but for comparison Flu and strep testing runs at a 50% or less negative outcome. We still need better screening.

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At 2500 cases and 34 deaths in Texas, you'd think there would be some praise on how it has been handled.

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That's about where New York was 12 days ago, except they had half as many deaths.

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On 29 Mar, Texas had 2552 cases and 34 deaths. Five days later on 3 Apr, Texas has 5330 cases and 90 deaths. Cases increased by 2778 and deaths by 56.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Texas

On 18 Mar, NY had 2480 cases and 16 deaths. Five days later on 23 Mar, NY had 20875 cases and 157 deaths. Cases increased by 18,395 and deaths by 141.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_New_York_(state)

TexasScientist said:

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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To acknowledge the prescient OP, Texas continues to fall behind other, smaller states in terms of cases. Texas accounts for 2.06% of the nation's cases.

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To acknowledge the prescient OP, Texas continues to fall behind other, smaller states in terms of cases. Texas accounts for 2.06% of the nation's cases.

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Unless we are testing widely, we have no earthly idea how many cases we have.

Total Deaths Reported (County)
Harris- 20
Dallas - 18
Bexar - 12
Tarrant - 11

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To acknowledge the prescient OP, Texas continues to fall behind other, smaller states in terms of cases. Texas accounts for 2.06% of the nation's cases.

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Unless we are testing widely, we have no earthly idea how many cases we have.

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That is true - how many tests has Texas done and how does that compare to other states?

Heard today the Dallas County temporary hospital may be re-purposed to another state due to lack of use.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

Here's quote from D.C. Bear's link posted above:
"Texas has ramped up testing in recent weeks, but it still lags behind nearly every other state in the country. On a per capita basis, New York state has tested residents at a rate seven times greater than Texas, according to an analysis of coronavirus testing figures and U.S. census data. Lengthy delays getting results have further slowed the process in Texas, forcing government officials to make decisions based on incomplete and outdated information."

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For someone purporting to be a scientist, you post more unverified, qualitative emotion outside of anyone not named Jinx or Waco47.

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Interestingly, you think everything I post purports or should purport to be scientifically proven. I post my opinions, I post others opinions, and I sometimes post scientific facts. I try to post in a manner where one can distinguish between them. You should learn to read a little more closely to make the distinction. I'd compare the accuracy and verifiability of my posts to yours anytime.

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FWIW, I tend to believe you believe what you say and am perfectly willing to take your word on this. Carry on.

A friend of mine maintains this doc on a daily basis. Interesting data:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1XW18Xbnoyx2sNLdX7tYmVkD1yUqA1DkNwSSJ8HhpDIw/htmlview

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To acknowledge the prescient OP, Texas continues to fall behind other, smaller states in terms of cases. Texas accounts for 2.06% of the nation's cases.

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Unless we are testing widely, we have no earthly idea how many cases we have.

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That is true - how many tests has Texas done and how does that compare to other states?

Heard today the Dallas County temporary hospital may be re-purposed to another state due to lack of use.

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They have over 1,100 confirmed cases in Dallas County now, I would hold off on moving.

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Texas Scientist said: ... We already know that some hospitals have more patients than the State is publishing. ...

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Source please?

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My local hospital.

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Is that a factual statement from your local hospital or a fantasy from hearsay? URL please

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I'm fascinated that he can't even give a real hospital name.

That little effort suggests he's already given up on the claim

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I answered up the thread from here. I don't have any reason to make it up. I'm not going to say where, for the same reasons I don't divulge my personal information or where I live. You don't have to believe me, but I'm just sharing what I know. Take it however you want.

Here's quote from D.C. Bear's link posted above:
"Texas has ramped up testing in recent weeks, but it still lags behind nearly every other state in the country. On a per capita basis, New York state has tested residents at a rate seven times greater than Texas, according to an analysis of coronavirus testing figures and U.S. census data. Lengthy delays getting results have further slowed the process in Texas, forcing government officials to make decisions based on incomplete and outdated information."

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What's the population density of New York compared to Texas? I'd venture to guess its close to or higher than the number of per capita tests done

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To acknowledge the prescient OP, Texas continues to fall behind other, smaller states in terms of cases. Texas accounts for 2.06% of the nation's cases.

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Unless we are testing widely, we have no earthly idea how many cases we have.

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That is true - how many tests has Texas done and how does that compare to other states?

Heard today the Dallas County temporary hospital may be re-purposed to another state due to lack of use.

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They have over 1,100 confirmed cases in Dallas County now, I would hold off on moving.

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