The Republic States of America vs. The Socialist States of America.

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BikerBear said:

So I would propose that us Socialist States stop providing Social Security and Medicare to the Republic states, cause after all, they don't want any of that socialism stuff. :-)
When you get a job, or if you get a job you'll think differently about Social Security and Medicare if and when you start paying for it.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Is it time for us to seriously have this discussion? Yes, it is time. We no longer have that much in common. Let's have a peaceful and amicable divorce. Go our separate ways. It is time.
I think you exaggerate our differences.

Some Democrats are socialists, but they're a small minority.

I think it's time for us find common ground and work together instead of talking about division.

We're stuck with each other so we're going to have to learn to get along.
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blackie said:

Actually the problem is not so much state vs. state in most of the country. It is urban center vs. rural / other. Just look at the blue-red election maps and see the blue counties in overwhelming (in land area) red states. If you did such a thing you would have to change the capitals of the states of the "republic states". They typically are blue.
I think you're on to something important here.

There's definitely a huge urban-rural divide.

For example, in Texas you have blue islands in your major cities. So to divide, states would have to divide within themselves.

The simple answer would be that rural areas are more conservative. But why is that and how do we bridge the gap?
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George Truett said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Is it time for us to seriously have this discussion? Yes, it is time. We no longer have that much in common. Let's have a peaceful and amicable divorce. Go our separate ways. It is time.
I think you exaggerate our differences.

Some Democrats are socialists, but they're a small minority.

I think it's time for us find common ground and work together instead of talking about division.

We're stuck with each other so we're going to have to learn to get along.
You people have picked a guy with Dementia to run the country. I am trying to reconcile that. Like Joe Biden said (probably not his words), please be patient.

Thank you.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Gold Tron said:

Texas and who ever wants to come with us.
Florida, Arkansas, and Oklahoma are with us. For sure.

North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming are welcome for sure. w T F happened to Nebraska? Scratching my M Fing head. They can hug their Liberal friends. They are out.
So are your going to expel Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, and El Paso from Texas?

Biden handily carried Dallas, Harris, Bexar, Travis, and El Paso counties.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

George Truett said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Is it time for us to seriously have this discussion? Yes, it is time. We no longer have that much in common. Let's have a peaceful and amicable divorce. Go our separate ways. It is time.
I think you exaggerate our differences.

Some Democrats are socialists, but they're a small minority.

I think it's time for us find common ground and work together instead of talking about division.

We're stuck with each other so we're going to have to learn to get along.
You people have picked a guy with Dementia to run the country. I am trying to reconcile that. Like Joe Biden said (probably not his words), please be patient.

Thank you.
It's going to take a lot of patience all around!
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George Truett said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Gold Tron said:

Texas and who ever wants to come with us.
Florida, Arkansas, and Oklahoma are with us. For sure.

North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming are welcome for sure. w T F happened to Nebraska? Scratching my M Fing head. They can hug their Liberal friends. They are out.
So are your going to expel Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, and El Paso from Texas?

Biden handily carried Dallas, Harris, Bexar, Travis, and El Paso counties.
Yes. These folks should find a warmer and fuzzier state. We should give them tax incentives to leave and find a more compatible state. We should pay them to go away. I have no doubt most will take the money. Win/ Win.
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Wow

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George Truett said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Gold Tron said:

Texas and who ever wants to come with us.
Florida, Arkansas, and Oklahoma are with us. For sure.

North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming are welcome for sure. w T F happened to Nebraska? Scratching my M Fing head. They can hug their Liberal friends. They are out.
So are your going to expel Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, and El Paso from Texas?

Biden handily carried Dallas, Harris, Bexar, Travis, and El Paso counties.
well not that much because we are a red state!
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TexasScientist said:

Osodecentx said:

TexasScientist said:

Osodecentx said:

TexasScientist said:

Osodecentx said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Dammit!! I just discovered we were burglarized last night and all of our firearms were stolen. Not sure if I will make a police report or not. I am sad. Guess we will take the loss and move on.
Don't report. Just live and learn. (and document the date)

Sure hope they turn up

Yep. Documented and dated. When Beto comes to take them I will just simply have to tell him they are gone.
They won't believe you. You'll have to prove it or go to the pokey.
How do I prove it if they are gone? The burglars did not leave a forwarding address!
You have evidence of your claim with a police report. No report, no belief. Better come up with some suspects to be safe.
What is the standard of proof that would satisfy Beto? Link?
I don't think Beto can be satisfied short of recovery of the stolen firearms. Better be prepared for an extensive search and ongoing surveillance. Beto seems tenacious.
Hypothetically speaking, If a person filed a false report, it might be a problem legally.
If a person filed a false insurance claim, it is a problem.

Hypothetically, If a person claims his guns were stolen ten years ago, it's not a problem. If it is Beto's SS gun police who have come to pick up guns purchased years ago and the target claims the guns were stolen 10 years ago, the burden of proof is on Beto to show that is untrue. (At least it is on Beto with this supreme court)

It is not the target's burden of proof to prove the guns were stolen. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

The target could also claim to have sold the guns in a private sale

Somehow, I think if Beto is in charge of the SS, the SCOTUS won't be the same nor upon whom the burden of proof rests.
What about the Trump Accountability Program being runout of the Capitol? Should I be worried?
Only if AOC is appointed head of Homeland Security.
I know one BU alum who has her slated for DoEnergy.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Is it time for us to seriously have this discussion? Yes, it is time. We no longer have that much in common. Let's have a peaceful and amicable divorce. Go our separate ways. It is time.
I'd be onboard. I have no desire to tell blue states how to live. Unfortunately the feeling isn't mutual
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Don't know whether to laugh or cry...


BrooksBearLives
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year?

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it?

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.
Oldbear83
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About as trustworthy as "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

About as trustworthy as "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"
That was true for 98% of Americans. The only ones who it wasn't true for were those whose "insurance" wasn't really even insurance. They were coupon programs.

God, y'all really love yourselves a BS soundbite, don't you?
Doc Holliday
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Ridiculous people that screech about fascism and then turn around and pretend you're being outrageous are unbelievably tone deaf.
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BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Whatever Dude. Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
Oldbear83
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"That was true for 98% of Americans"

No, it was not.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
You are probably right.

The best analogy I can come up with is that this election can be best compared to the New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings NFL playoff game last January 2019 to where a Viking defender blatantly committed pass interference on a Saints receiver that was not called it changed the outcome of the game. The play could not be reviewed and the ref's bad all cost the Saints their season. The NFL admitted they were wrong and screwed up. The final outcome was upheld. Will be the same way with this election. It will be determined that many thousands of votes were cast illegally (which includes thousands of dead people), but the courts will not overturn the "decision." The decision was made by the media and NOT the states.

The NFL fixed this non-reviewable pass interference problem by allowing such a play to be reviewed going forward to ensure the same thing won't happen again. Will the Republicans do the same? I hope we can continue to decide elections at the ballot box. If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner. No more. I am hopeful for a peaceful resolution but am ready for either one.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
You are probably right.

The best analogy I can come up with is that this election can be best compared to the New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings NFL playoff game last January 2019 to where a Viking defender blatantly committed pass interference on a Saints receiver that was not called it changed the outcome of the game. The play could not be reviewed and the ref's bad all cost the Saints their season. The NFL admitted they were wrong and screwed up. The final outcome was upheld. Will be the same way with this election. It will be determined that many thousands of votes were cast illegally (which includes thousands of dead people), but the courts will not overturn the "decision." The decision was made by the media and NOT the states.

The NFL fixed this non-reviewable pass interference problem by allowing such a play to be reviewed going forward to ensure the same thing won't happen again. Will the Republicans do the same? I hope we can continue to decide elections at the ballot box. If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner. No more. I am hopeful for a peaceful resolution but am ready for either one.
There is no credible evidence as of yet there was widespread fraud, or any fraud that was on a scale large enough to overturn the results of any state election. As always, and just like 2016, he couldn't accept he lost the popular vote and he spent taxpayers' dollars on his narcissistic ego by appointing a blue ribbon commission to find evidence to support his claims of millions of fraudulent votes, and they found absolutely nothing. There are plenty of rumors, disinformation, and undocumented anecdotal claims circulating on the internet, on far right broadcasts, and in far right conspiracy corners which Trump is trying to exploit. He's looking for some legal theory he can try to develop and exploit to hold on to power. At the end of the day, he'll get his chance to try to prove his claims in court if there is anything legitimate to them.

So far everything from a dead voter who turned out to be the son with the same name and address, to a video of ballot boxes being struffed turning out to be a Russian video, have been thrown out. They even haven't been able to produce the documents they claimed to have in their possession. All dismissed in court.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:




If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.
It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:


If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.
It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches.
Don't discount the Wuzzybear Rosebud Militia (AKA Unite the Right, Lightfoot Brotherhood, Wolverine Watchmen, Proud Boys, Boogaloo Bois). They're organized into 'batallions' of couch sitters waiting for Wuzzy's call to mobilize. But, I guess them getting off the couch has to happen too, before it happened at all.
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
You are probably right.

The best analogy I can come up with is that this election can be best compared to the New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings NFL playoff game last January 2019 to where a Viking defender blatantly committed pass interference on a Saints receiver that was not called it changed the outcome of the game. The play could not be reviewed and the ref's bad all cost the Saints their season. The NFL admitted they were wrong and screwed up. The final outcome was upheld. Will be the same way with this election. It will be determined that many thousands of votes were cast illegally (which includes thousands of dead people), but the courts will not overturn the "decision." The decision was made by the media and NOT the states.

The NFL fixed this non-reviewable pass interference problem by allowing such a play to be reviewed going forward to ensure the same thing won't happen again. Will the Republicans do the same? I hope we can continue to decide elections at the ballot box. If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner. No more. I am hopeful for a peaceful resolution but am ready for either one.
There is no credible evidence as of yet there was widespread fraud, or any fraud that was on a scale large enough to overturn the results of any state election. As always, and just like 2016, he couldn't accept he lost the popular vote and he spent taxpayers' dollars on his narcissistic ego by appointing a blue ribbon commission to find evidence to support his claims of millions of fraudulent votes, and they found absolutely nothing. There are plenty of rumors, disinformation, and undocumented anecdotal claims circulating on the internet, on far right broadcasts, and in far right conspiracy corners which Trump is trying to exploit. He's looking for some legal theory he can try to develop and exploit to hold on to power. At the end of the day, he'll get his chance to try to prove his claims in court if there is anything legitimate to them.

So far everything from a dead voter who turned out to be the son with the same name and address, to a video of ballot boxes being struffed turning out to be a Russian video, have been thrown out. They even haven't been able to produce the documents they claimed to have in their possession. All dismissed in court.


You are Fake News.
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1990 Baghdad Bob - there are no Americans in Baghdad

2020 Texas Fake Scientist - there is no evidence of election fraud

So Bob lives on, in spirit.
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quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:


If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.
It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches
We will see what the courts decide. I fully expect a, "yes, there was big time fraud but the election stands.". When that happens, don't expect too many of those of us that love our country to remain on our couches.
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FWBear said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Doc Holliday said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
You are probably right.

The best analogy I can come up with is that this election can be best compared to the New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings NFL playoff game last January 2019 to where a Viking defender blatantly committed pass interference on a Saints receiver that was not called it changed the outcome of the game. The play could not be reviewed and the ref's bad all cost the Saints their season. The NFL admitted they were wrong and screwed up. The final outcome was upheld. Will be the same way with this election. It will be determined that many thousands of votes were cast illegally (which includes thousands of dead people), but the courts will not overturn the "decision." The decision was made by the media and NOT the states.

The NFL fixed this non-reviewable pass interference problem by allowing such a play to be reviewed going forward to ensure the same thing won't happen again. Will the Republicans do the same? I hope we can continue to decide elections at the ballot box. If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner. No more. I am hopeful for a peaceful resolution but am ready for either one.
There is no credible evidence as of yet there was widespread fraud, or any fraud that was on a scale large enough to overturn the results of any state election. As always, and just like 2016, he couldn't accept he lost the popular vote and he spent taxpayers' dollars on his narcissistic ego by appointing a blue ribbon commission to find evidence to support his claims of millions of fraudulent votes, and they found absolutely nothing. There are plenty of rumors, disinformation, and undocumented anecdotal claims circulating on the internet, on far right broadcasts, and in far right conspiracy corners which Trump is trying to exploit. He's looking for some legal theory he can try to develop and exploit to hold on to power. At the end of the day, he'll get his chance to try to prove his claims in court if there is anything legitimate to them.

So far everything from a dead voter who turned out to be the son with the same name and address, to a video of ballot boxes being struffed turning out to be a Russian video, have been thrown out. They even haven't been able to produce the documents they claimed to have in their possession. All dismissed in court.


You are Fake News.
Uhm, that would be Trump's far fetched claims.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:


If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.
It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches
We will see what the courts decide. I fully expect a, "yes, there was big time fraud but the election stands.". When that happens, don't expect too many of those of us that love our country to remain on our couches.
If the courts find 'big time fraud' they'll render a judgement if there is enough to overturn an election. They never overturn an election unless there is enough fraudulent activity to affect the outcome.

Those who are on their couches have a unique claim of love for country. What exactly are you going to do if you get up off of your couches?
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If there was "big time fraud" how did Lindsay and Moscow Mitch get reelected.
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robby44 said:

If there was "big time fraud" how did Lindsay and Moscow Mitch get reelected.
Because the target was Trump, and still is.
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

quash said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:


If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.
It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches
We will see what the courts decide. I fully expect a, "yes, there was big time fraud but the election stands.". When that happens, don't expect too many of those of us that love our country to remain on our couches.
If the courts find 'big time fraud' they'll render a judgement if there is enough to overturn an election. They never overturn an election unless there is enough fraudulent activity to affect the outcome.

Those who are on their couches have a unique claim of love for country. What exactly are you going to do if you get up off of your couches?
No Justice. No Peace!!!!
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TexasScientist said:

FWBear said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

Welp. Good to see y'all are handling this so well.

"I love America so much I want to break her apart!"

Yawn. See y'all in 3 years, when all your whining about socialism is still fake, and all your swearing that your guns will be taken away is still fake, along with whatever else you're crying about.

Me? I'm just excited for America to be boring again.
But you want those things...

The Republican Party is now the party of the working class and the Democratic party is now the party of the elite.

Want proof? https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-election-trump-biden-donors/



You are adorable!

Do you get tired of being wrong?
A promise of higher taxes, the elimination of the oil & gas industry, and eliminating the police! What's not to like? Every working man's dream come true! LOL!!!
Do you make more than $400K a year? -That is none of your business

No one is eliminating oil and gas. Jesus. - Biden and Harris have said so on numerous occasions. Their words, - not mine.

And is Joe Biden responsible for all black men in prison? Or is he going to eliminate the police? Which one is it? - He is responsible for many of the "Super predators" still in prison. Once again, his words, not mine.

This is why Trump lost. He couldn't get his lies straight. The reason he got as close as he did is because people like you don't care.- This election was stolen. Life will go on.
Hope you and your ilk sleep well. It is not over.
Yeah, it really is over.
Sorry
You are probably right.

The best analogy I can come up with is that this election can be best compared to the New Orleans Saints vs. Minnesota Vikings NFL playoff game last January 2019 to where a Viking defender blatantly committed pass interference on a Saints receiver that was not called it changed the outcome of the game. The play could not be reviewed and the ref's bad all cost the Saints their season. The NFL admitted they were wrong and screwed up. The final outcome was upheld. Will be the same way with this election. It will be determined that many thousands of votes were cast illegally (which includes thousands of dead people), but the courts will not overturn the "decision." The decision was made by the media and NOT the states.

The NFL fixed this non-reviewable pass interference problem by allowing such a play to be reviewed going forward to ensure the same thing won't happen again. Will the Republicans do the same? I hope we can continue to decide elections at the ballot box. If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner. No more. I am hopeful for a peaceful resolution but am ready for either one.
There is no credible evidence as of yet there was widespread fraud, or any fraud that was on a scale large enough to overturn the results of any state election. As always, and just like 2016, he couldn't accept he lost the popular vote and he spent taxpayers' dollars on his narcissistic ego by appointing a blue ribbon commission to find evidence to support his claims of millions of fraudulent votes, and they found absolutely nothing. There are plenty of rumors, disinformation, and undocumented anecdotal claims circulating on the internet, on far right broadcasts, and in far right conspiracy corners which Trump is trying to exploit. He's looking for some legal theory he can try to develop and exploit to hold on to power. At the end of the day, he'll get his chance to try to prove his claims in court if there is anything legitimate to them.

So far everything from a dead voter who turned out to be the son with the same name and address, to a video of ballot boxes being struffed turning out to be a Russian video, have been thrown out. They even haven't been able to produce the documents they claimed to have in their possession. All dismissed in court.


You are Fake News.
Uhm, that would be Trump's far fetched claims.

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