Question For Those That Voted For Joe Biden

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OsoCoreyell
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TWD 74 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

When Joe Biden is removed from office by the Democratic Party (I predict around 6/1/2021), how will you feel? Will you be shocked? Betrayed? Angry? Will you have buyer's remorse concerning your 2020 Election vote? I am fascinated to see how many here will fall into the "I am shocked and never saw this coming" category.

Biden will be removed by his own party either through the 25th amendment or will be forced to resign due to proof of his past misdeeds, but the reason given in his resignation speech will be "health reasons."



I would point out that all of the dire predictions from conservatives for the next 4 years, do not come close to the calamity the Liberals predicted at this time 4 years ago. I am reminded of what Democratic Congresswoman Barbara Jordan said about the pending Reagan Administration in 1980: "The Republic will survive."


I agree, because the Senate will remain in Republican hands, and because Biden is starting out hard left, there is a very real possibility that the Dems lose the House in the mid-term elections in 2022.

I'll give the Dem's one piece of free advice - Get control of the "protests" (read: riots) in the cities ASAP and you can probably make a contest of it. Nothing killed Democratic votes like the riots and and "Defund the Police." No one thinks "The Republic will survive" if the cities are literally not in the control of the civil authorities, and people will vote against that nonsense.
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Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
Booray
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OsoCoreyell said:

TWD 74 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

When Joe Biden is removed from office by the Democratic Party (I predict around 6/1/2021), how will you feel? Will you be shocked? Betrayed? Angry? Will you have buyer's remorse concerning your 2020 Election vote? I am fascinated to see how many here will fall into the "I am shocked and never saw this coming" category.

Biden will be removed by his own party either through the 25th amendment or will be forced to resign due to proof of his past misdeeds, but the reason given in his resignation speech will be "health reasons."



I would point out that all of the dire predictions from conservatives for the next 4 years, do not come close to the calamity the Liberals predicted at this time 4 years ago. I am reminded of what Democratic Congresswoman Barbara Jordan said about the pending Reagan Administration in 1980: "The Republic will survive."


I agree, because the Senate will remain in Republican hands, and because Biden is starting out hard left, there is a very real possibility that the Dems lose the House in the mid-term elections in 2022.

I'll give the Dem's one piece of free advice - Get control of the "protests" (read: riots) in the cities ASAP and you can probably make a contest of it. Nothing killed Democratic votes like the riots and and "Defund the Police." No one thinks "The Republic will survive" if the cities are literally not in the control of the civil authorities, and people will vote against that nonsense.


The national security team announced yesterday is not "hard left" or anywhere close.
Doc Holliday
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Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
Eh, saying 'roaches' mid sentence isn't stuttering. There's something going on that's much worse unfortunately.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

John Kerry is going to be the special envoy for climate.

I'm all for having clean air and less pollution, but we're seriously going to spend hundreds of billions for decades, while China, India and other countries are the biggest problem? The effort is pointless without them and this is no beacon to the rest of the world considering this is in the best financial interests of those outside of the west.

Lefties...we're going to run out of money for your other expensive ideas regardless of your virtue. This should ALARM you.
How do we "run out of money"? Trump spent like a drunken sailor, we found money for all that.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

John Kerry is going to be the special envoy for climate.

I'm all for having clean air and less pollution, but we're seriously going to spend hundreds of billions for decades, while China, India and other countries are the biggest problem? The effort is pointless without them and this is no beacon to the rest of the world considering this is in the best financial interests of those outside of the west.

Lefties...we're going to run out of money for your other expensive ideas regardless of your virtue. This should ALARM you.
How do we "run out of money"? Trump spent like a drunken sailor, we found money for all that.
No, DC spent like a drunken sailor and Trump stupidly went along with it.

We didn't find money. We printed it.
Mothra
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Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Depends on the method used. I agree under an actuary life table, he should have a number of years left.
Mothra
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Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
Doc Holliday
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Mothra said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
Another issue is these moderate Democrats like Booray think they can fight the radical left when they're watching us lose to them.

When the time comes, they won't be able to put up a fight, and they know it.
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I think Biden genuinely wants to unite Americans, and I hope he succeeds. But he is and always has been a weather-vane. It's not hard to see which way the wind is blowing in the Democratic Party.
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hey, look at those cool socks!

Booray
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Mothra said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Depends on the method used. I agree under an actuary life table, he should have a number of years left.
What other method would you use. Saying American male life expectancy is 78 years old related to a prediction for a person is a prediction for a male newborn, not Joe Biden.
Booray
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Mothra said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
Most of the ones I saw last night served in the Obama administration. If they are left of the Obama administration, there must be some evidence that those people have changed their views. I am not well-versed with them to know that. Do you have examples?
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NeonBU said:

hey, look at those cool socks!


He is not wearing a mask. Eeeeeekkkkk! Is he trying to kill granny?
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Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Depends on the method used. I agree under an actuary life table, he should have a number of years left.
What other method would you use. Saying American male life expectancy is 78 years old related to a prediction for a person is a prediction for a male newborn, not Joe Biden.
I think Joe has already exceeded the life expectancy of a male who was born in 1944.
Porteroso
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Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
quash
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Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

John Kerry is going to be the special envoy for climate.

I'm all for having clean air and less pollution, but we're seriously going to spend hundreds of billions for decades, while China, India and other countries are the biggest problem? The effort is pointless without them and this is no beacon to the rest of the world considering this is in the best financial interests of those outside of the west.

Lefties...we're going to run out of money for your other expensive ideas regardless of your virtue. This should ALARM you.
How do we "run out of money"? Trump spent like a drunken sailor, we found money for all that.
No, DC spent like a drunken sailor and Trump stupidly went along with it.

We didn't find money. We printed it.


And we'll print more, the Too Party demands it.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

quash said:

Doc Holliday said:

John Kerry is going to be the special envoy for climate.

I'm all for having clean air and less pollution, but we're seriously going to spend hundreds of billions for decades, while China, India and other countries are the biggest problem? The effort is pointless without them and this is no beacon to the rest of the world considering this is in the best financial interests of those outside of the west.

Lefties...we're going to run out of money for your other expensive ideas regardless of your virtue. This should ALARM you.
How do we "run out of money"? Trump spent like a drunken sailor, we found money for all that.
No, DC spent like a drunken sailor and Trump stupidly went along with it.

We didn't find money. We printed it.


And we'll print more, the Too Party demands it.
Of course they will.
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Porteroso said:

he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks.



That's a good sign, and good for him.
Doc Holliday
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Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Booray
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Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
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Carlos Safety said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Depends on the method used. I agree under an actuary life table, he should have a number of years left.
What other method would you use. Saying American male life expectancy is 78 years old related to a prediction for a person is a prediction for a male newborn, not Joe Biden.
I think Joe has already exceeded the life expectancy of a male who was born in 1944.
He has. Which has very little to do with predicting how long he will live from this point forward, which was the question.
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Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage.
Is she ever not in a rage?
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Booray said:

Carlos Safety said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Depends on the method used. I agree under an actuary life table, he should have a number of years left.
What other method would you use. Saying American male life expectancy is 78 years old related to a prediction for a person is a prediction for a male newborn, not Joe Biden.
I think Joe has already exceeded the life expectancy of a male who was born in 1944.
He has. Which has very little to do with predicting how long he will live from this point forward, which was the question.
The mean or median age of mortality has nothing to do with how long a particular person might or will live. That goes for everyone (not just Scranton Joe).
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Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
The senate is going to flip.
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Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
The senate is going to flip.
That would be seriously bad for the nation
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Oldbear83 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
The senate is going to flip.
That would be seriously bad for the nation
I firmly believe it's going to happen. Mail in volumes are outrageously high.
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Doc Holliday said:

Oldbear83 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
The senate is going to flip.
That would be seriously bad for the nation
I firmly believe it's going to happen. Mail in volumes are outrageously high.


COVID is going to alter this country dramatically.

And deaths are only a part of it .
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Doc Holliday said:

Oldbear83 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
How is Joe Biden going to unite the country when he wants to take cash out of the hands of the middle class?

He's hostile to small businesses and favorable to megacorps.
Would you just chill out? When the man proposes legislation, issues an executive order or nominates someone to serve, comment on the merits of his action. Until then, you will get more sleep if you quit worrying incessantly that Joe Biden is Karl Marx in disguise.
The senate is going to flip.
That would be seriously bad for the nation
I firmly believe it's going to happen. Mail in volumes are outrageously high.
I see that. Once a trick works, they stay with it.
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Porteroso said:

Mothra said:


His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
They're not all moderates, but he's already got AOC in a rage. She's tweeting that he's hurting the progressive movement with his picks. She's mad, and it's because he's not giving in to partisan politics and extremism, he's trying to unify the country.

As an aside topic, I find it hilarious that the very politicians who are the loudest in protesting racial injustice, or protesting that there is no racial injustice, are the very ones seeking to divide the country.

You can put Trump and AOC on opposite ends of the spectrum of politics, but they're very similar in their goals. Win at all costs, even if it ruins the country.
Good post. I agree with much of it. I hope you are right, and he will not succumb to the pressure that's being exerted.

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Sam Lowry said:

I think Biden genuinely wants to unite Americans, and I hope he succeeds. But he is and always has been a weather-vane. It's not hard to see which way the wind is blowing in the Democratic Party.
Good point.
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The Republic is finished. Cause of Death: Mail-In Ballots.
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Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

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Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
Most of the ones I saw last night served in the Obama administration. If they are left of the Obama administration, there must be some evidence that those people have changed their views. I am not well-versed with them to know that. Do you have examples?
Serving as underlings in the Obama admin does not mean they were moderates. Alejandro Mayorkas for Homeland Security and Jake Sullivan are two concerns. There is talk he is looking seriously at appointing Sanders as Labor Secretary as well.

But once again, one need look no further than his platform to see that he's pretty far tot he left of Obama. I guess it's your thought he lied in his stated policy positions, and will govern as a moderate? I hope you are right (though I am not sure what that says about his character).
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Carlos Safety said:

The Republic is finished. Cause of Death: Mail-In Ballots.
By ballot or bullet. This next chapter should be interesting.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
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Mothra said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

Doc Holliday said:

Booray said:

Mothra said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

PartyBear said:

Why havent you asked how we feel about Biden not making it to the debates or Biden not even being on the ballot in the 20 election first?
Yes, I did not think that Biden would participate in any debates. I was wrong. I never once said I did not think Biden would be on the ballot. This post is not about who is right or wrong. It just poses a "what if" question.

Not a single direct response to the original question. It sounds like it is 100 percent unanimous that Joe Biden well not be stepping down in 2021 from all of those that voted for him. Interesting.


Joe Biden will finish his term.


Average life expectancy for men is 78.54 years in this country, so at 78 to begin his term, chances are not on his side.


The life expectancy of a 78-year old man is 9.37 years. So chances are on his side.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
What about with OBVIOUS cognitive issues?


While he is not as sharp as he once was, he also does not have dementia. His lifelong battle with stuttering has more of an impact than many realize.

He handled himself just fine through the campaign and debates. He is making good decisions about dealing with Trump's obstinance and the team he is putting around him. Despite the dire predictions about being a stalking horse for socialism, he is the same slightly center-left Joe Biden he has always been.

He has enough wisdom to make cooling the temperature around our politics his number one priority. That is good enough for me.
His cabinet picks are certainly not all moderates. We will see if he can hold back the Sanders and AOC crowd (throw in Harris as well), but if his stated policies on his campaign website are any indication, this is an administration that has definitely moved pretty far to the left of Obama.
Most of the ones I saw last night served in the Obama administration. If they are left of the Obama administration, there must be some evidence that those people have changed their views. I am not well-versed with them to know that. Do you have examples?
Serving as underlings in the Obama admin does not mean they were moderates. Alejandro Mayorkas for Homeland Security and Jake Sullivan are two concerns. There is talk he is looking seriously at appointing Sanders as Labor Secretary as well.

But once again, one need look no further than his platform to see that he's pretty far tot he left of Obama. I guess it's your thought he lied in his stated policy positions, and will govern as a moderate? I hope you are right (though I am not sure what that says about his character).

Why are they concerns? I don't know anything about either of them.

And platforms have little relevance to governance. Its been that way forever. At this moment he does not have a Senate majority and even if he got one, he would have to worry about several moderate Senators. He is not going to try to pass a radical agenda because he doesn't believe in it and it would be impossible even if he did believe in it.

Judge him on what he does, not what you think he will do.
 
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