fadskier said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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What do you expect him to do? Fix your broken pipes?

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Maybe get out in Houston and lead some relief efforts for people who have been w/out water and heat for a long time?

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You don't think public servants should actually lead in serving the public instead of bailing to go on vacation in another country?

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How do you know he hasn't done those things? Do you want pictures? The you'd just accuse him of doing it for political reasons...face it, you'd be angry either way.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Really, really dumb on Cruz's part. He had to have known how bad this would look, and if he didn't, that might be worse. And especially after he had criticized someone for going to Cabo during a pandemic.

But still not as bad as killing nursing home patients and then covering it up, all while getting praise and an award from the left.

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PartyBear said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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bear2be2 said:

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PartyBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Really, really dumb on Cruz's part. He had to have known how bad this would look, and if he didn't, that might be worse. And especially after he had criticized someone for going to Cabo during a pandemic.

But still not as bad as killing nursing home patients and then covering it up, all while getting praise and an award from the left.

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Cuomo's time is coming, and deservedly so.

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Abbott's ' debacle now is even bigger.

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Not really. Cuomo's decisions literally killed thousands of people, and his administration seemingly intentionally covered that up to avoid accountability for those decisions.

Abbott's a ****ty leader, too. But going on Hannity and talking nonsense during a disaster isn't nearly as bad as sending COVID patients back into nursing homes and then doctoring the death numbers to hide the impact of that decision.

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Can they impeach a governor? What Cuomo did would certainly be grounds for it.

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I'm certain without having read all 50 state constitutions, that each one having been modeled after the US Constitution has similar language as the US Constitution pertaining to impeachment of elected officials.

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Doc Holliday said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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What do you expect him to do? Fix your broken pipes?

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Maybe get out in Houston and lead some relief efforts for people who have been w/out water and heat for a long time?

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You don't think public servants should actually lead in serving the public instead of bailing to go on vacation in another country?

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It would be better if you just skipped to the part where you tell us you want to generate faux outrage in order to remove him from office or kill his political career. All while you don't give a sh*T about the dozen or so elected officials who took vacations after ordering lockdowns.

I already know you'll respond that those politicians should be held accountable too...yet you said nothing about them.

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J.B.Katz said:

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fadskier said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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What do you expect him to do? Fix your broken pipes?

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Maybe get out in Houston and lead some relief efforts for people who have been w/out water and heat for a long time?

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You don't think public servants should actually lead in serving the public instead of bailing to go on vacation in another country?

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How do you know he hasn't done those things? Do you want pictures? The you'd just accuse him of doing it for political reasons...face it, you'd be angry either way.

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Links showing Ted did do any of these things?

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PartyBear said:

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I actually do not know the full allegations. If he lied or broke the law yes. Do you think Abbott should resign or be impeached?

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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You might want to reread this thread. I've made my thoughts on Cuomo very clear.

I don't post in a lot of threads on this board. That doesn't mean I don't have thoughts on those topics. I'm just more inclined to respond to the things said here I disagree with, so I tend to ignore those threads in which I'm part of a broad consensus. When you can find an instance of me defending any of those scumbags out of tribal allegiance, let me know. Otherwise, my silence can often be interpreted as agreement -- though likely to a more moderated degree.

And I have stronger thoughts on Ted Cruz than some others because he is my senator. His bull**** impacts me on a more local level.

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PartyBear said:

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Obviously that is the difference between you and I. I just finished telling you Cuomo should resign or be impeached if he broke the law. Again I have been busy. I haven't followed the NY situation entirely as I said. You will not take that position about any Republican and on top of that you get upset at people for calling out Republicans who have done terribly.

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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You might want to reread this thread. I've made my thoughts on Cuomo very clear.

I don't post in a lot of threads on this board. That doesn't mean I don't have thoughts on those topics. I'm just more inclined to respond to the things said here I disagree with, so I tend to ignore those threads in which I'm part of a broad consensus. When you can find an instance of me defending any of those scumbags out of tribal allegiance, let me know. Otherwise, my silence can often be interpreted as agreement -- though likely to a more moderated degree.

And I have stronger thoughts on Ted Cruz than some others because he is my senator. His bull**** impacts me on a more local level.

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If I missed your post on Cuomo, please direct me to it. I would think your outrage at what he did would be far greater than Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

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Mothra said:

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PartyBear said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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bear2be2 said:

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PartyBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Really, really dumb on Cruz's part. He had to have known how bad this would look, and if he didn't, that might be worse. And especially after he had criticized someone for going to Cabo during a pandemic.

But still not as bad as killing nursing home patients and then covering it up, all while getting praise and an award from the left.

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Cuomo's time is coming, and deservedly so.

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Abbott's ' debacle now is even bigger.

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Not really. Cuomo's decisions literally killed thousands of people, and his administration seemingly intentionally covered that up to avoid accountability for those decisions.

Abbott's a ****ty leader, too. But going on Hannity and talking nonsense during a disaster isn't nearly as bad as sending COVID patients back into nursing homes and then doctoring the death numbers to hide the impact of that decision.

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Can they impeach a governor? What Cuomo did would certainly be grounds for it.

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I'm certain without having read all 50 state constitutions, that each one having been modeled after the US Constitution has similar language as the US Constitution pertaining to impeachment of elected officials.

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Do you think Cuomo should be impeached?

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Mothra said:

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PartyBear said:

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Obviously that is the difference between you and I. I just finished telling you Cuomo should resign or be impeached if he broke the law. Again I have been busy. I haven't followed the NY situation entirely as I said. You will not take that position about any Republican and on top of that you get upset at people for calling out Republicans who have done terribly.

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Oh, there are many differences between you and I. I am simply amazed at how glib you are on the subject of Cuomo. It's made national news, yet you seem more upset about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

And just to set the record straight, to the extent any politician is guilty of a crime and violates his oath of office, absolutely he should be impeached.

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J.B.Katz said:

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fadskier said:

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HuMcK said:

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Did you catch me defending any of the pols breaking their own lockdown orders? It is beyond inexcusable for Cruz to hightail it to Cancun while the state suffers, so why are you here excusing it?

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Why is it beyond excusable? He doesn't have a weather machine and he doesn't control electricity. He's not breaking my orders like those politicians who violated their own orders.

It's not the same.

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Then keep voting for him. You have low expectations and Ted will be sure to keep meeting them.

I want the senators and House reps we pay our tax dollars to represent us to be public leaders and public servants.

One critical aspect of that role is leading during a crisis and setting a tone that snowstorms and power outages aren't political and we're all in it together so we need to pull together and help each other. By that measure, Mattress Mack is a real leader.

If what's happening in Texas isn't a crisis I don't know what is and Cruz flew away from it.

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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You might want to reread this thread. I've made my thoughts on Cuomo very clear.

I don't post in a lot of threads on this board. That doesn't mean I don't have thoughts on those topics. I'm just more inclined to respond to the things said here I disagree with, so I tend to ignore those threads in which I'm part of a broad consensus. When you can find an instance of me defending any of those scumbags out of tribal allegiance, let me know. Otherwise, my silence can often be interpreted as agreement -- though likely to a more moderated degree.

And I have stronger thoughts on Ted Cruz than some others because he is my senator. His bull**** impacts me on a more local level.

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If I missed your post on Cuomo, please direct me to it. I would think your outrage at what he did would be far greater than Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

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This thread's only four pages long. You can find them (there are multiple).

And I've been unequivocal in my outrage at that situation. Sorry your gotcha attempt didn't work out the way you'd hoped.

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PartyBear said:

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Mothra said:

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PartyBear said:

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Obviously that is the difference between you and I. I just finished telling you Cuomo should resign or be impeached if he broke the law. Again I have been busy. I haven't followed the NY situation entirely as I said. You will not take that position about any Republican and on top of that you get upset at people for calling out Republicans who have done terribly.

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Oh, there are many differences between you and I. I am simply amazed at how glib you are on the subject of Cuomo. It's made national news, yet you seem more upset about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

And just to set the record straight, to the extent any politician is guilty of a crime and violates his oath of office, absolutely he should be impeached.

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Really? I think not and you can't fool anyone here. Where did you call for Trump's resignation or impeachment? You defended those crimes through and through and opposed impeachments didn't you?

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PartyBear said:

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Mothra said:

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PartyBear said:

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Obviously that is the difference between you and I. I just finished telling you Cuomo should resign or be impeached if he broke the law. Again I have been busy. I haven't followed the NY situation entirely as I said. You will not take that position about any Republican and on top of that you get upset at people for calling out Republicans who have done terribly.

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Oh, there are many differences between you and I. I am simply amazed at how glib you are on the subject of Cuomo. It's made national news, yet you seem more upset about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

And just to set the record straight, to the extent any politician is guilty of a crime and violates his oath of office, absolutely he should be impeached.

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Really? I think not and you can't fool anyone here. Where did you call for Trump's resignation or impeachment? You defended those crimes through and through and opposed impeachments didn't you?

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Doc Holliday said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I think it's a good illustration of why Democrats get away with hypocrisy in more cases than Republicans.

A dozen or so democrats, including Gavin Newsom, never got the backlash Ted Cruz is receiving right now for ordering businesses to lockdown while they took vacations and dined with dozens of people.

Call it whataboutism all you want, and state you're against hypocrisy, but I guaruntee even YOU won't stand a chance fighting against the leftist dominated media mob if you wanted to. You can't end Democrats for their hypocrisy, but you can with the GOP. These are the rules and you can't even see it.

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Porteroso said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I think it's a good illustration of why Democrats get away with hypocrisy in more cases than Republicans.

A dozen or so democrats, including Gavin Newsom, never got the backlash Ted Cruz is receiving right now for ordering businesses to lockdown while they took vacations and dined with dozens of people.

Call it whataboutism all you want, and state you're against hypocrisy, but I guaruntee even YOU won't stand a chance fighting against the leftist dominated media mob if you wanted to. You can't end Democrats for their hypocrisy, but you can with the GOP. These are the rules and you can't even see it.

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So ridiculous. Newsom might get special electioned out of office dude. He got way worse criticism. Cruz will escape this only scathed by some angry tweets. He doesn't need you to white knight for him, he faces this sort of thing all the time.

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mothra said:

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bear2be2 said:

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fadskier said:

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bear2be2 said:

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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You might want to reread this thread. I've made my thoughts on Cuomo very clear.

I don't post in a lot of threads on this board. That doesn't mean I don't have thoughts on those topics. I'm just more inclined to respond to the things said here I disagree with, so I tend to ignore those threads in which I'm part of a broad consensus. When you can find an instance of me defending any of those scumbags out of tribal allegiance, let me know. Otherwise, my silence can often be interpreted as agreement -- though likely to a more moderated degree.

And I have stronger thoughts on Ted Cruz than some others because he is my senator. His bull**** impacts me on a more local level.

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If I missed your post on Cuomo, please direct me to it. I would think your outrage at what he did would be far greater than Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

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This thread's only four pages long. You can find them (there are multiple).

And I've been unequivocal in my outrage at that situation. Sorry your gotcha attempt didn't work out the way you'd hoped.

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Found them. Glad to hear you seem somewhat upset about that after somebody called you out on it. Interesting how much more outraged you are about the "human scum" Ted Cruz, however.

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fadskier said:

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PartyBear said:

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Mothra said:

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Obviously that is the difference between you and I. I just finished telling you Cuomo should resign or be impeached if he broke the law. Again I have been busy. I haven't followed the NY situation entirely as I said. You will not take that position about any Republican and on top of that you get upset at people for calling out Republicans who have done terribly.

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Oh, there are many differences between you and I. I am simply amazed at how glib you are on the subject of Cuomo. It's made national news, yet you seem more upset about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

And just to set the record straight, to the extent any politician is guilty of a crime and violates his oath of office, absolutely he should be impeached.

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Really? I think not and you can't fool anyone here. Where did you call for Trump's resignation or impeachment? You defended those crimes through and through and opposed impeachments didn't you?

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What crimes did Trump commit? I need a review.

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I think this thread is a pretty good illustration of why Republicans are losing the demographic fight the way they are. In many cases, they -- and their constituents -- have lost or abandoned all sense of shared suffering and community in favor of a brand of individualism that simply manifests itself as selfishness.

You can see that in the number of "So what ..." responses here from hard-core libertarian or conservative types. The "so what" here is that Ted Cruz doesn't feel any real connection to his constituents and is only concerned about himself and his own well-being. Beyond showing an extreme lack of leadership in a time of crisis, this just exposes him for the selfish ******* he is. It's really that simple.

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I haven't noticed that they are losing any demographics. And what do you expect Cruz to do? Our electrical grid is not controlled by the federal or state government (thank goodness)

So you just need the appearance of care and concern? That's where we differ, I don't. I don't need a politician to pretend to care...which is why I thought it stupid for people like Waco47 to get angry when Trump didn't say "nice, hopeful things" when 3,000 people would die of COVID in a day. I don't need Biden to either but for the record Waco47 (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't been angry on this board that Biden hasn't issued any condolences or hopeful sayings when we top 3,000 deaths in a day.

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I expect him -- and everyone else -- to do what little good he can in whatever sphere of influence he has. Go check on a neighbor. Bring them some groceries if they need it. You don't have to publicize it either. Do it because it's the right thing to do.

This isn't rocket science. It's being a good neighbor and community member. Hell, it's being a practicing Christian.

Nothing exposes a person's character like adversity. And Ted Cruz has proven yet again that he has none.

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So anyone traveling right now is not a good neighbor nor a Christian?

I agree with you that Cruz is tone deaf, but wow.

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Those who intentionally flee disaster for personal comfort while their neighbors suffer are poor neighbors IMO. And those who do that from leadership positions are particularly ****ty leaders.

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I agree not a good look, but not nearly as big a deal as you are making it.

As up in arms as you are about Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm, I am surprised you didn't post your outrage at Cuomo fudging the numbers on nursing home deaths when there were a couple of threads on that last week. We are literally talking about a guy who has blood on his hands, and not a peep from you.

You choose strange hills to die on.

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You might want to reread this thread. I've made my thoughts on Cuomo very clear.

I don't post in a lot of threads on this board. That doesn't mean I don't have thoughts on those topics. I'm just more inclined to respond to the things said here I disagree with, so I tend to ignore those threads in which I'm part of a broad consensus. When you can find an instance of me defending any of those scumbags out of tribal allegiance, let me know. Otherwise, my silence can often be interpreted as agreement -- though likely to a more moderated degree.

And I have stronger thoughts on Ted Cruz than some others because he is my senator. His bull**** impacts me on a more local level.

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If I missed your post on Cuomo, please direct me to it. I would think your outrage at what he did would be far greater than Cruz taking a vacation during an ice storm.

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This thread's only four pages long. You can find them (there are multiple).

And I've been unequivocal in my outrage at that situation. Sorry your gotcha attempt didn't work out the way you'd hoped.

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Give it up: nothing you do will ever be enough for the Whatabouters.

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LOL. quash to the rescue.

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Really, really dumb on Cruz's part. He had to have known how bad this would look, and if he didn't, that might be worse. And especially after he had criticized someone for going to Cabo during a pandemic.

But still not as bad as killing nursing home patients and then covering it up, all while getting praise and an award from the left.

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Of course, you won't see the resident libs and lib sympathizers complaining about that. Cruz should resign for flying to Cancun, but no mention whatsoever of a guy that literally has blood on his hands (I started a thread on this topic just last week).

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False equivalance and whataboutism.

Cuomo's lying about nursing homes sounds bad. It's totally unrelated to the power grid collapse and winter storm in Texas. It doesn't excuse Abbott's bad response or the fact that the grid had inadequate weather safeguards.

Cuomo should be held responsible for his failures.

So should Abbott and any other Texas official whose actions or inactions resulted in the cold mess of power and water failures across the state.

Newsom was stupid to do exactly what his govt told everybody else in his state not to do. Seems I remember Deborah Birx going to a vacation house with family for Thanksgiving after telling everybody else not to travel for thanksgiving. Do as I say not as I do, is bad leadership.

Next are you boys going to say Antifia and BLM forced Cruz to board that plane and fly to Cancun?

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Really, really dumb on Cruz's part. He had to have known how bad this would look, and if he didn't, that might be worse. And especially after he had criticized someone for going to Cabo during a pandemic.

But still not as bad as killing nursing home patients and then covering it up, all while getting praise and an award from the left.

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Of course, you won't see the resident libs and lib sympathizers complaining about that. Cruz should resign for flying to Cancun, but no mention whatsoever of a guy that literally has blood on his hands (I started a thread on this topic just last week).

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False equivalance and whataboutism.

Cuomo's lying about nursing homes sounds bad. It's totally unrelated to the power grid collapse and winter storm in Texas. It doesn't excuse Abbott's bad response or the fact that the grid had inadequate weather safeguards.

Cuomo should be held responsible for his failures.

So should Abbott and any other Texas official whose actions or inactions resulted in the cold mess of power and water failures across the state.

Newsom was stupid to do exactly what his govt told everybody else in his state not to do. Seems I remember Deborah Birx going to a vacation house with family for Thanksgiving after telling everybody else not to travel for thanksgiving. Do as I say not as I do, is bad leadership.

Next are you boys going to say Antifia and BLM forced Cruz to board that plane and fly to Cancun?

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If I was making a comparison of the two actions, you might have a point. Instead, however, I was comparing the outrage by our resident lefties at Cruz for taking a vacation during an ice storm while recognizing they've been mostly silent about something that is actually far worse. We've seen him called "human scum," been told he's not a Christian, and that he should resign. And these same posters have said barely a peep about a governor in New York who literally has blood on his hands.

It's interesting the things people choose to get outraged about.

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