The Supreme Court denied Trump's request to block access to his tax records without comment.
Agreed. This was an attempt to damage Trump politically under the guise that it had some criminal implications. Trump may not have paid much in taxes, but I guarantee you everything he filed was kosher.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Mothra said:Agreed. This was an attempt to damage Trump politically under the guise that it had some criminal implications. Trump may not have paid much in taxes, but I guarantee you everything he filed was kosher.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Should Trump be locked up in prison for the rest of his life?HuMcK said:Mothra said:Agreed. This was an attempt to damage Trump politically under the guise that it had some criminal implications. Trump may not have paid much in taxes, but I guarantee you everything he filed was kosher.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Michael Cohen kind of already told us what they are looking at, he has one set of books for insurance, one set for lending institutions, and another for the IRS (probably the one he was most honest in), the implication being that he committed fraud with one or all of those different sets of books. If the property values he reported on his tax filings are significantly different (lower) than the valuations he used to get loans and insurance, that's a problem.
Agree. I don't care about your politics..No one is above the law.HuMcK said:
He should face accountability in whatever form or duration it takes.
For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
Mean tweetsDoc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
Wow! That is some earth-shattering stuff. Just imagine if companies and high-net worth individuals kept one set of books to comply with the IRS requirement and then used another set of books to communicate to lenders, analysts, and the public in a format that provides those groups the information they deem most important to them.HuMcK said:Mothra said:Agreed. This was an attempt to damage Trump politically under the guise that it had some criminal implications. Trump may not have paid much in taxes, but I guarantee you everything he filed was kosher.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Michael Cohen kind of already told us what they are looking at, he has one set of books for insurance, one set for lending institutions, and another for the IRS (probably the one he was most honest in), the implication being that he committed fraud with one or all of those different sets of books. If the property values he reported on his tax filings are significantly different (lower) than the valuations he used to get loans and insurance, that's a problem.
Or he has the equivalent of Rudy Giuliani, Mark Cohen, Sydney Powell & jenna Ellis working on his taxes.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Osodecentx said:
Trump is aggressive in most areas of his life. I'm sure pursuing the lowest number on his tax return is included.
Does anyone believe he wouldn't cut corners?
muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
Doc Holliday said:Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
Why is that believed?tommie said:Doc Holliday said:Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
It's believed he keeps two sets of books. Books for the bank and books for the tax man.
The tax man reduces the tax liability. The Bank increases the lendable value of the collateral.
Doc Holliday said:Why is that believed?tommie said:Doc Holliday said:Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
It's believed he keeps two sets of books. Books for the bank and books for the tax man.
The tax man reduces the tax liability. The Bank increases the lendable value of the collateral.
Did you demand that your accountant take marginal deductions that were legally marginal?Canada2017 said:Osodecentx said:
Trump is aggressive in most areas of his life. I'm sure pursuing the lowest number on his tax return is included.
Does anyone believe he wouldn't cut corners?
If my accountant didn't take ever possible deduction I would hire a different accountant.
The Big Firms aren't intersted in working with crime bosses. And they like to get paid.tommie said:muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
KPMG ain't ****ing with him and he would t be willing to pay those fees.
Is it a criminal act to take "marginal" deductions?Osodecentx said:Did you demand that your accountant take marginal deductions that were legally marginal?Canada2017 said:Osodecentx said:
Trump is aggressive in most areas of his life. I'm sure pursuing the lowest number on his tax return is included.
Does anyone believe he wouldn't cut corners?
If my accountant didn't take ever possible deduction I would hire a different accountant.
Man I would not want to end up in divorce court opposite a federal prosecter. Or even in an argument over the kitchen table.tommie said:Doc Holliday said:Why is that believed?tommie said:Doc Holliday said:Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
It's believed he keeps two sets of books. Books for the bank and books for the tax man.
The tax man reduces the tax liability. The Bank increases the lendable value of the collateral.
Likely because they have evidence. They have info from Cohen. They have his loan records from the bank. They have the appraisal and the property records.
Young me dated a Federal prosecutor. My experience with them people is they don't waste their time if they don't think I they have the goods.
They're treating this as they did the mafia.
Don't know. I'm not following it closely because (a) my life won't change one bit based on this and (b) grand jury proceedings being secret and whatnot, it's kind of hard to really know much.Doc Holliday said:Ok, what crimes do you think he will be convicted of?fubar said:For whatever crimes he is convicted of.Doc Holliday said:For what crimes?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No. He should get the same thing anyone else would.
This really isn't that difficult.
Osodecentx said:Did you demand that your accountant take marginal deductions that were legally marginal?Canada2017 said:Osodecentx said:
Trump is aggressive in most areas of his life. I'm sure pursuing the lowest number on his tax return is included.
Does anyone believe he wouldn't cut corners?
If my accountant didn't take ever possible deduction I would hire a different accountant.
Values in tax returns aren't used to determine loan eligibility.HuMcK said:Mothra said:Agreed. This was an attempt to damage Trump politically under the guise that it had some criminal implications. Trump may not have paid much in taxes, but I guarantee you everything he filed was kosher.muddybrazos said:
Do people really think that Trump is doing his own taxes and trying to cheat or something? He probably has 30 accountants at KPMG working on his stuff and a whole team of tax attorneys. This will end up being another nothing burger then on to the next gotcha thing on Trump that will be another nothing.
Michael Cohen kind of already told us what they are looking at, he has one set of books for insurance, one set for lending institutions, and another for the IRS (probably the one he was most honest in), the implication being that he committed fraud with one or all of those different sets of books. If the property values he reported on his tax filings are significantly different (lower) than the valuations he used to get loans and insurance, that's a problem.