Forget the Alamo!

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Waco1947
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The battle was stupid militarily. Travis should have left and joined Houston.
Bowie was a pure evil racist not interested in "freedom."
Travis was a clown who also was all about slavery.
Crockett was ... well a has been.
Austin was a slaver.
Mexico had banned slavery and the Texians needed slavery for cotton production.
The Alamo was not about "freedom" because blacks would not know freedom nor Indians.
The US wanted Texas to enter the union to add another slave state and Andrew Jackson might have allowed US soldiers to cross from Louisiana to fight..
Santa Anna and Cos butchered people and gave the war cry to Texians "Remember the Alamo" and motivation for revenge.
Tejanos contribution are ignored and treated badly in the new country.
The Texas Rangers terrorized the border Mexican Americans and slaughtered uncountably people.
Forget the Alamo and your flawed 7th grade Texas History class.
A summary of the book "Forget the Alamo."
Waco1947
Sam Lowry
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F*** off.
ATL Bear
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What? No crowded elevators around to fart in?
Malbec
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That's one way to do it. Here is another...
Johnny Bear
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How about we just forget Waco1947 instead.
Doc Holliday
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"Forget the Alamo"

*Proceeds to discuss the Alamo*
EatMoreSalmon
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Too many beavers died in order to print that book.
Too many birds died to "cleanly" power the ebook version.
And I have wasted 3 sentences on it.
Redbrickbear
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Leftist critical theory comes for Texas history.

You knew it was coming.
Redbrickbear
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"Jason Stanford was the communications director for Austin Mayor Steve Adler.

He grew up in the Portland area."

Carpet baggers are an eternal curse.

Whiskey Pete
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Don't you have some black people you need to visit with, you know, to apologize for being white?
ShooterTX
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If that's the kind of book you read... well... I'm just not surprised in the least.
ShooterTX
Redbrickbear
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ShooterTX said:

If that's the kind of book you read... well... I'm just not surprised in the least.


NPR was drooling all over the book....and putting some other bodily fluids on it that we will not mention.
SIC EM 94
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You need to be exposed to this so-called "church" you claim to lead. You are one clueless SOB.
Canon
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Remember the Alamo because Mexico is a complete s*** hole and Texans fought to escape that corrupt culture and turn Texas into the greatest nation on earth.

"You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas." Davy Crockett
GrowlTowel
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No abortions to promote today 47?
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Robert Wilson
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Yeah, we'd be better off as part of Mexico.
Proud 1992 Alum
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Why post something that inflammatory just to piss people off? And don't respond that you are trying to educate the people on here. If that were the case, the tone of the post would be very different. Congratulations on being one of the 5 worst posters on SicEm365.
whitetrash
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Canada2017
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Waco1947 said:

The battle was stupid militarily. Travis should have left and joined Houston.
Bowie was a pure evil racist not interested in "freedom."
Travis was a clown who also was all about slavery.
Crockett was ... well a has been.
Austin was a slaver.
Mexico had banned slavery and the Texians needed slavery for cotton production.
The Alamo was not about "freedom" because blacks would not know freedom nor Indians.
The US wanted Texas to enter the union to add another slave state and Andrew Jackson might have allowed US soldiers to cross from Louisiana to fight..
Santa Anna and Cos butchered people and gave the war cry to Texians "Remember the Alamo" and motivation for revenge.
Tejanos contribution are ignored and treated badly in the new country.
The Texas Rangers terrorized the border Mexican Americans and slaughtered uncountably people.
Forget the Alamo and your flawed 7th grade Texas History class.
A summary of the book "Forget the Alamo."
Chuckle....night nurse not giving you your evening cookie old fella ?

You seem more desperate for attention than ever .
ilbb990912
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Mexico enslaved and abused indigenous Indians to Mexico for multiple centuries..they would have done the same to indigenous Texas Indians but for the "combativeness" of the Comanche, Kiowa, and Apache. Hence the invitation to American settlers to Texas to act as buffers to the raids of these tribes into Mexico.
Doc Holliday
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The Aztecs performed human sacrifices, which is worse than anything related to the Alamo.

Should we forget the Aztecs?
Porteroso
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Impressively stupid post. The men in the Alamo were certainly not perfect, and a few may have been true monsters. But there were 189 Texans that gave their lives to fight for what they considered freedom.

Remembering their heroism isn't the same as condoning their individual actions throughout their lives. Nothing more than trash cancel culture.
Thee University
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Robert Wilson said:

Yeah, we'd be better off as part of Mexico.
We already are!
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
Thee University
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Porteroso said:

Remembering their heroism isn't the same as condoning their individual actions throughout their lives. Nothing more than trash cancel culture.
Can you say the same for all of the Confederate leaders who have had their statues destroyed and torn down?

Columbus?
Washington?
Grant?
Francis Scott Key?
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee
Porteroso
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Thee University said:

Porteroso said:

Remembering their heroism isn't the same as condoning their individual actions throughout their lives. Nothing more than trash cancel culture.
Can you say the same for all of the Confederate leaders who have had their statues destroyed and torn down?

Columbus?
Washington?
Grant?
Francis Scott Key?

Telling people to forget history is a far cry from not glorifying individuals with statues and monuments. Removing a statue of a KKK leader from public property to a Confederate cemetery isn't the same as canceling the Alamo.
4th and Inches
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The "americans" that moved to Texas were mexican citizens. The problems started when Mexico's republic government which made certain promises to the Texas region of Mexico changed its ruling processes when the political leadership and style of govt changed.

Heros like Bowie married a local Mexican woman and had children. There is a statue of Juan Seguin at the Alamo. The locals were not marginalized. The sacrifices made by the men and women who fought for independence at Goliad, Gonzalez, Refurio, the Alamo, and San Jacinto should not be marginalized by idiots who havent taken the time to read the letters and journals to get to the internal thoughts and feelings of those who were there

The US didnt want another slave state, Texas was a republic for years before becoming a state.

Everything about this book appears to be bias slanted trash having little to do with the truth of what happened.
redfish961
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4th and Inches said:

The "americans" that moved to Texas were mexican citizens. The problems started when Mexico's republic government which made certain promises to the Texas region of Mexico changed its ruling processes when the political leadership and style of govt changed.

Heros like Bowie married a local Mexican woman and had children. There is a statue of Juan Seguin at the Alamo. The locals were not marginalized. The sacrifices made by the men and women who fought for independence at Goliad, Gonzalez, Refurio, the Alamo, and San Jacinto should not be marginalized by idiots who havent taken the time to read the letters and journals to get to the internal thoughts and feelings of those who were there

The US didnt want another slave state, Texas was a republic for years before becoming a state.

Everything about this book appears to be bias slanted trash having little to do with the truth of what happened.
There is an obvious pattern here.

Never let the truth stand in the way of a good diatribe.

BusyTarpDuster2017
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You'd think lefties would NEVER want to forget the Alamo. A bunch of white rednecks with guns defending a Christian church getting smacked down by brown people? This is literally their wet dream.
CammoTX
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Waco1947 said:

The battle was stupid militarily. Travis should have left and joined Houston.
Bowie was a pure evil racist not interested in "freedom."
Travis was a clown who also was all about slavery.
Crockett was ... well a has been.
Austin was a slaver.
Mexico had banned slavery and the Texians needed slavery for cotton production.
The Alamo was not about "freedom" because blacks would not know freedom nor Indians.
The US wanted Texas to enter the union to add another slave state and Andrew Jackson might have allowed US soldiers to cross from Louisiana to fight..
Santa Anna and Cos butchered people and gave the war cry to Texians "Remember the Alamo" and motivation for revenge.
Tejanos contribution are ignored and treated badly in the new country.
The Texas Rangers terrorized the border Mexican Americans and slaughtered uncountably people.
Forget the Alamo and your flawed 7th grade Texas History class.
A summary of the book "Forget the Alamo."


Or, this is just another part of the (complicated) story.

History is not black and white. You can take the contrarian point of view, but that doesn't mean that you can just write off the old way of looking at it.

But I'll wait for you to tell me how morally righteous and progressive Santa Ana and Mexico was. Surely they always did things the "right way" and never oppressed anyone

OsoCoreyell
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I often hear complaints about how folks on the right are "living on outrage" or "addicted to indignation."

There is some truth to that, and there are certainly media folks on the right that try to make money off of feeding the outrage machine.

But It's hard to maintain that criticism when the left keeps pumping out garbage like this that is an "outrage" in any objective sense.

'47 knows it. He's just trolling because he's bored.
Redbrickbear
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Porteroso said:

Thee University said:

Porteroso said:

Remembering their heroism isn't the same as condoning their individual actions throughout their lives. Nothing more than trash cancel culture.
Can you say the same for all of the Confederate leaders who have had their statues destroyed and torn down?

Columbus?
Washington?
Grant?
Francis Scott Key?

Telling people to forget history is a far cry from glorifying individuals with statues and monuments. Removing a statue of a KKK leader from public property to a Confederate cemetery isn't the same as canceling the Alamo.
Actually its almost the same. Its condemning men of the past by the standards of the present time period (and through a liberal/leftist social lens)

Very similar to statue destruction in China under Mao....everything before community party must be destroyed.

And the only KKK leader I can think of that had a statue was Gen. Forrest in Memphis. And while he did help found the Klan as a pseudo-Masonic fraternal group....he ordered the Klan disbanded when the Republican governor of Tennessee asked him to do so (because it was becoming a violent organization as its chapters spread). And on his death the local black paper said since the war he had been a good friend of the Memphis black community.

"Forrest also approached the Memphis Board of Aldermen, according to newspaper accounts, and argued that the black citizens could be doctors, clerks, bankers or anything else if given the opportunity and education. He believed that the blacks were a part of the community and should be involved and employed like anyone else."

"As president of the Selma, Marion & Memphis Railroad, he employed former slaves as construction engineers, crew foremen, train engineers and conductors. Blacks were hired as managers, as well as laborers.
In 1875, Forrest was invited to address a meeting of the Independent Order of Pole Bearers, an early black civil rights organization in Memphis, at its Fourth of July barbecue."

http://rutherfordtnhistory.org/remembering-rutherford-forrest-was-postwar-activist-for-black-civil-rights/
LIB,MR BEARS
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Doc Holliday said:

The Aztecs performed human sacrifices, which is worse than anything related to the Alamo.

Should we forget the Aztecs?
Who?
Canada2017
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Thee University said:

Robert Wilson said:

Yeah, we'd be better off as part of Mexico.
We already are!
Not yet....but its going to happen eventually .
Redbrickbear
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Canada2017 said:

Thee University said:

Robert Wilson said:

Yeah, we'd be better off as part of Mexico.
We already are!
Not yet....but its going to happen eventually .
Mexico is a relatively poor semi-narco state......It might implode before the USA empire.

It's central government is incredibly corrupt...and it has a worse oligarchy problem than the USA.

Its nominal GDP is only around $10,000....compared to the USA at $65,000

So its down there with Bulgaria and Kazakhstan in terms of nominal GDP.

It's one saving grace was always its large birth rate that insured future generations of Mexicans...but the nino bank is going broke. Mexico's fertility rate is now 2.14 or barely at replacement level. And its falling fast. By 2050 Mexico will reach its maximum population (150 million) and then start to drop fast after that. By the end of the century Mexico might still be poor and will certainly be de-populating unless it can get its birth rate back to replacement level.

https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2010/04/22/when-the-ninos-run-out

Waco1947
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4th and Inches said:

The "americans" that moved to Texas were mexican citizens. The problems started when Mexico's republic government which made certain promises to the Texas region of Mexico changed its ruling processes when the political leadership and style of govt changed.

Heros like Bowie married a local Mexican woman and had children. There is a statue of Juan Seguin at the Alamo. The locals were not marginalized. The sacrifices made by the men and women who fought for independence at Goliad, Gonzalez, Refurio, the Alamo, and San Jacinto should not be marginalized by idiots who havent taken the time to read the letters and journals to get to the internal thoughts and feelings of those who were there

The US didnt want another slave state, Texas was a republic for years before becoming a state.

Everything about this book appears to be bias slanted trash having little to do with the truth of what happened.
Short sighted reading of San Antonio. Tejanos were marginalized as soon Texians arrived.
Waco1947
 
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