Sam Lowry said:It's hard to take seriously under the circumstances. What was the officer going to do -- wait for the entrance to be breached, wave her on, and have the rest of the rioters pass through in single file so he could stop and frisk them? Meanwhile they're free to assault and beat the legislators within an inch of their lives as long as they do it unarmed and mostly peacefully?Mothra said:Like I said, it raises questions regarding whether the use of deadly force was justified. Indeed it does.Sam Lowry said:It may typically involve a belief that the suspect is armed; it certainly does not require any such belief. The video also shows that others were armed, at least with blunt weapons.Mothra said:The video raises serious doubts about whether the officer had probable cause to believe Babbit posed an imminent threat of serious bodily harm. Typically, that requires a belief that the suspect is armed. Officers are encouraged to use less than deadly force, such as stun guns and pepper spray, when they don't know that a suspect is armed and poses a risk of serious bodily harm. We know that wasn't done here.Sam Lowry said:What are they?Mothra said:There are serious questions as to whether the killing of Babbit was justified.BearTruth13 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Wow. I have you pegged perfect!y.BearTruth13 said:
Didn't peg you for a cop hater.
I support law enforcement. Babbit made stupid choices, put herself in a stupid and bad situation and paid for it.
It's a shame you don't.
Another problem is that because these proceedings have been kept secret, we are largely in the dark. If this had been a police officer who had used deadly force on say a BLM protestor, his name would be splashed across the news and the findings of the investigation made public. That of course never happened here. The same level of scrutiny has not been applied.
It was his job to protect them. If nothing else, he probably kept a lot more rioters from dying if they'd gotten through.
But no, you weren't arguing above the shooting was justified. Not at all.