cowboycwr said:
Thee University said:
clubhi said:
last time it happened the confederacy got smashed
Really?
360K union soldiers killed by Lincoln. 258K confederate soldiers killed by Lincoln. It took 2.1 million Yankess to squeak by 1.1 million Confederates.
The Confederacy was kicking the Yankee's a$$e$ until Lincoln hoodwinked 180K Irish right off the boats to fight.
The only smashing of the confederacy was during Lincoln's "Reconstruction"
Horribly flawed, wrong and revisionist history.
Lincoln didn't start the war. The slave owners did.
The slave owners killed those union soldiers.
The suave owners killed those mostly poor southerners who fought so the shave owners could keep slaves.
Lincoln was dead during reconstruction.
Everything you posted was absolute garbage and not true.
Here is more truth for your idiotic lies above:
Soon after Jefferson Davis became the first president of the CSA, he dispatched a commission to Washington, DC to negotiate a treaty and an offer to pay for all Federal property in the South. But Lincoln refused to meet with the emissaries, believing acknowledgment would discredit his position that secession was illegal.
And that thinking also thwarted the final attempt to resolve the dilemma through peaceful means.
At the time Southern states began seceding, many of the Union forts within their borders were abandoned, save a few. Consider that the US Military (and government) at the start of the Civil War resembled little like what we have today. The United States had a standing army of about sixteen thousand men in 1861, most of whom served in poorly equipped outposts.
Fort Sumter, a sparsely populated duty collection point in Charleston harbor, was one of the few forts where Union personnel remained. As was evident from Lincoln's contemporaries, an attempt to send Union troops into any of the Confederate states would provoke a war.
Lincoln knew that if South Carolina and the Confederacy allowed the fort to be provisioned, it would make a mockery of their sovereignty. And if the Confederacy fired on the Union ships, it would have been the Confederacy, not Lincoln who fired the first shots of the war.
"He was a master of the situation," wrote Lincoln's private secretaries John G. Nicolay and John Hay.
"Master if the rebels hesitated or repented, because they would thereby forfeit their prestige with the South; master if they persisted, for he would then command a united North." Lincoln knew what he was doing when he ordered Fort Sumter to be resupplied. He was a cunning politician and Fort Sumter was his opportunity. He seized it believing it would be a short war. He couldn't have been more wrong.
Viewing the Civil War as a crusade to end slavery is simply not correct; abolitionists never accounted for more than a sizeable minority in the North. The cause of war in 1861 wasn't slavery.
It was about the loss of millions in tax revenues.The Confederate states had no aspirations to rule the Union any more than George Washington sought control over Great Britain in 1776. In both the American Revolutionary War and the "Civil War," independence was the goal.
The idea that the Civil War was some sort of a morality play about freeing Southern slaves is an ideological distortion that obfuscates many of the atrocities that occurred during and after the war.
But if we accept the idea that Lincoln was waging war to free the slaves, it helps justify the loss of over 600,000 American lives. Not to mention the financial cost of the war, which many historians believe could have been avoided.
From all outward accounts, Lincoln wanted a war with the South some might say he needed it and that's what he got. The loss of tax revenues from the Southern ports would not go unpunished as he promised in his inaugural address.But after more than a year at war, the Union's prospects for victory were in doubt.
Losses to the Army in significant battles had the Union mired in a bloody quagmire. Moreover, Britain and France were considering support for the Confederacy by recognizing it as a sovereign country, which could have concretized secession and put Lincoln's forces at risk of having to fight against Confederate allies from Europe.
It's important to recognize that up until September 1862, the stated purpose of the war had been to preserve the Union. With the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln sought to change the focus of the war.
But the Emancipation Proclamation freed no one. Not a single slave.
"The education of a man is never completed until he dies." - General Robert E. Lee