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Gameday: Baylor vs. SMU

September 10, 2016
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The Baylor Bears (1-0) will take on the SMU Mustangs (1-0) on Saturday afternoon at 2:30 p.m. CT in a game at McLane Stadium in Waco which will be televised nationally on FS1. The Bears defeated the Mustangs last fall with a final score of 56-21. 

Baylor-SMU Series History

  • Baylor and SMU meet for the 82nd-time Saturday. The Bears lead the all-time series, 38-36-7 and 19-18-3 in Waco.
  • Last year, Baylor produced a 56-21 victory over the Mustangs in Dallas in the season-opener. BU held SMU scoreless in the second half.
  • The last time in Waco, the two teams met to open the 2014 season as well with BU shutting out SMU, 45-0, in the inaugural game at McLane Stadium.
  • The Bears have won each of the last 12 meetings dating back to 1986.
  • The previous four series meetings have all been the season opener for both teams (BU also won, 28-23, in 2005 & 59-24 in 2012).
  • The Bears and Mustangs first met on Oct. 7, 1916, with Baylor dominating in a 62-0 rout in Dallas.
  • Starting with the first meeting in 1916, the teams met each season (with the exception of World War II) through 1986, a span of 70 years. NCAA sanctions forced the cancellation of SMU’s 1987 season and University officials cancelled the Mustangs’ 1988 campaign. The teams then picked up their Southwest Conference rivalry in 1989, playing yearly until Baylor joined the Big 12 to start the 1996 season.
  • Since moving into the Big 12 Conference in 1996, Baylor is 9-0 in non-conference games against former Southwestern Conference (non-Big 12) rivals -- 5-0 vs. SMU and 4-0 vs. Rice.
  • Defensive coordinator Phil Bennett will be facing his former team during Saturday’s game. Bennett was the head coach at SMU from 2002-07.

Gameday Thread: Baylor vs. SMU

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GoldMind
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6:17p, 9/10/16
I'm watching the best team in the big 12 stomp a geographically large mudhole in SMU back. What are y'all seeing?
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In reply to Bears8375 • 6:18p, 9/10/16
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Well had the worst QB I've ever seen since I've been associated with Baylor...


Did you start your association with Baylor this season?
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In reply to RedBear07 • 6:18p, 9/10/16
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This team lost its swag. It's obvious the current coaching staff is only doing the minimum required. This game will most likely be a win but the mood throughout the stadium and field seems like a loss


That's always been my fear.
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6:18p, 9/10/16
Kd Cannon never really developed into the receiver we thought he would
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In reply to SoTexBear • 6:18p, 9/10/16
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Well had the worst QB I've ever seen since I've been associated with Baylor...


Did you start your association with Baylor this season?
I meant QB performance. And no, 2010.
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6:18p, 9/10/16
Special teams gets an A+ even with the missed pat
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In reply to Hob Howelll • 6:19p, 9/10/16
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Kd Cannon never really developed into the receiver we thought he would
I truly think this year, he won't go 100% full speed to avoid getting injured for the NFL.
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In reply to Bears8375 • 6:20p, 9/10/16
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Kd Cannon never really developed into the receiver we thought he would
I truly think this year, he won't go 100% full speed to avoid getting injured for the NFL.

He has shown nothing that is going to get him drafted this season. In fact he has looked like crap.

If the plan is to jump he is going to have to produce.
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6:20p, 9/10/16
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In reply to Bears8375 • 6:21p, 9/10/16
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Well had the worst QB I've ever seen since I've been associated with Baylor...


Did you start your association with Baylor this season?
I meant QB performance. And no, 2010.


Seriously, did you already forget last year?!?
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6:21p, 9/10/16
Art had Trevor White starting over Tony Nichaloson on punt return this spring?
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6:22p, 9/10/16
Sometimes you take a win and you smile because it's better than a loss but we are nowhere near as good as we have been.

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6:22p, 9/10/16
Some of y'all need to put the meth puffer away. We didn't hang 80 on SMU so we have no QB and no receivers? No o line?

Lordy
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In reply to nein51 • 6:22p, 9/10/16
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Kd Cannon never really developed into the receiver we thought he would
I truly think this year, he won't go 100% full speed to avoid getting injured for the NFL.

He has shown nothing that is going to get him drafted this season. In fact he has looked like crap.

If the plan is to jump he is going to have to produce.
He is easily going to get drafted in one of the first 3 rounds, most likely 2nd. He has elite of the elite speed, has great strength for his size, and he's extremely talented. Just a hot head and inconsistent.
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6:23p, 9/10/16
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I mean we suck. Fire ALL the coaches.


Why do you react so strongly when somebody doesn't wear green, gold and Art all the time?

The team doesn't suck, there is definitely talent but this game didn't do much to build confidence that these guys are going to do much once the conference schedule rolls around.

I'll be over the moon with happiness if I'm wrong. All I really know how to do is work a channel changer from my chair anyway...so what do I know?
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In reply to SoTexBear • 6:23p, 9/10/16
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Well had the worst QB I've ever seen since I've been associated with Baylor...


Did you start your association with Baylor this season?
I meant QB performance. And no, 2010.


Seriously, did you already forget last year?!?
I'm not counting the games where we had non QB starting.
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In reply to Bears8375 • 6:24p, 9/10/16
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Kd Cannon never really developed into the receiver we thought he would
I truly think this year, he won't go 100% full speed to avoid getting injured for the NFL.

He has shown nothing that is going to get him drafted this season. In fact he has looked like crap.

If the plan is to jump he is going to have to produce.
He is easily going to get drafted in one of the first 3 rounds, most likely 2nd. He has elite of the elite speed, has great strength for his size, and he's extremely talented. Just a hot head and inconsistent.

We can agree to disagree. Right now he isn't getting drafted. Damn sure not that high. He wasn't the best wr on his own field today. Guys that go that high don't have the problem much.
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6:28p, 9/10/16
Good 2nd half by the defense. Only gave up 150 yards to a Chad Morris offense. Got some takeaways. Need to continue to build off of that.
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In reply to RedBear07 • 6:28p, 9/10/16
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I mean we suck. Fire ALL the coaches.


Why do you react so strongly when somebody doesn't wear green, gold and Art all the time?

The team doesn't suck, there is definitely talent but this game didn't do much to build confidence that these guys are going to do much once the conference schedule rolls around.

I'll be over the moon with happiness if I'm wrong. All I really know how to do is work a channel changer from my chair anyway...so what do I know?


You don't know GoldMind too well
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In reply to GoldMind • 6:29p, 9/10/16
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I mean we suck. Fire ALL the coaches.


Why do you react so strongly when somebody doesn't wear green, gold and Art all the time?

The team doesn't suck, there is definitely talent but this game didn't do much to build confidence that these guys are going to do much once the conference schedule rolls around.

I'll be over the moon with happiness if I'm wrong. All I really know how to do is work a channel changer from my chair anyway...so what do I know?


You don't know GoldMind too well


Guess not
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In reply to Bears8375 • 6:33p, 9/10/16
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Well had the worst QB I've ever seen since I've been associated with Baylor...


Did you start your association with Baylor this season?
I meant QB performance. And no, 2010.


Seriously, did you already forget last year?!?
I'm not counting the games where we had non QB starting.


Me neither. Johnson?
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6:36p, 9/10/16
Defense was overall solid. Offense ugly but the last drive with seth was pretty encouraging if we can build off of that.
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6:37p, 9/10/16
Positives:

Impressed by our Defence, Redzone D especially, very encouraging, especially with arguably our best defender (Blanchard) coming back soon and missing our #1 CB for virtually the entire game

Special Teams, its just nice to be competent, it makes such a difference, bar the negated PR and Nicholson nearly muffing a punt, it was excellent, especially our Kick Off coverage, long may it continue

Williams and Hasty began to assert their ability towards the end of the game when we started creating lanes

Negatives:

OL, Pass blocking was ok (I only recall one sack and that was negated due to a penalty i think), Run Blocking was a bomb scare untill SMU got tired and the amount of False starts is just plain ridiculous

Seth, i dont know what is going on, but his Accuracy, especially on deep balls is awful and was in the Northwestern state game too, I know Deep balls arent always going to come off, but apart from the TD to Cannon (which was almost picked off) every single one was wildly under or overthrown and he wasnt under much pressure for most of them, I dont know if its rust or if its something to do with his injury, but i am concerned. On the plus side, it was nice to see him run a bit in the second half.

Dropsies, not as bad as NSU, but we had a few of them again, they were tougher catches this game, but Platt dropped a couple he could have done better with

Offensive playcalling was just really strange, I think we had 1 pass to a non-WR all game (which was negated by a penalty, of course), we kept dialling up the deep passes when Seth was clearly having trouble with them, just a really bad game by the Offence in general
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In reply to BaylorVsAll • 6:38p, 9/10/16
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Defense was overall solid. Offense ugly but the last drive with seth was pretty encouraging if we can build off of that.


WE KNOW YOU DONT WANT SONNY DYKES
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6:39p, 9/10/16
Well, we have a complete rebuild on the o line and d line, a distracted staff and team and a QB who,had a terrible game. And still won big against an improving team. Not a great team but an improving one. I am most concerned about staff focus and injuries. I became too optimistic after the NW state game, even though I knew they were terrible. I am glad we have our weak non conf schedule. allows us wins and hopefully some development ....
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In reply to Henry Gondorff • 6:45p, 9/10/16
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Well, we have a complete rebuild on the o line and d line, a distracted staff and team and a QB who,had a terrible game. And still won big against an improving team. Not a great team but an improving one. I am most concerned about staff focus and injuries. I became too optimistic after the NW state game, even though I knew they were terrible. I am glad we have our weak non conf schedule. allows us wins and hopefully some development ....


I was lowering my win totAl expectation down to 6 or 7 at the first half but I saw enough signs of potential to improve that I think we can still be in the 8 win range. 10 wins would require our defense to play lights out and finish close games. I feel good about rice, ku and hopefully isu..osu has its own issues and ksu is not a big scoring threat. All other games will be close in the 4th but thankfully for us the big 12 looks real weak so far
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6:59p, 9/10/16
Based on what I've seen to date, all of CFB looks pretty average this year except for Alabama.
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In reply to BearlyHeardFrom • 7:06p, 9/10/16
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Based on what I've seen to date, all of CFB looks pretty average this year except for Alabama.


Thats the saving grace. Lots of teams struggling that u expect to get it together like clemson. Big 12 looks weak so far so we are not the only ones with problems. I saw enough flashes that there is hope we can significantly improve on offense. Defense I am happy with so far.
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7:07p, 9/10/16
Well I know it wasnt picture perfecto but at least we didnt go all OSU.
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7:21p, 9/10/16
Some things I noticed

Russell looks for Blake Lynch over all others it looked to me? Lynch will be star, already is without results yet

Kendall is depressed and that's a problem. Was worried that could happen with his youth. He needs to blame himself instead of players. He did not have his men prepped at all. The penalties are symptoms. Gonna have to push himself through this, can he? Could Russell's laced performance have been because his coach ain't right?

Frankly I've not ever noticed Russell off like this, not ever even close. I hope he got his bad game out of him!

Young WRs are awesome. Mims looks ready, love Lynch as previously mentioned

DL and OL looked like about what we worried about preseason. We shall see but that worries me now

Opportunistic defense may have returned. May be like the '13 D on turnovers?

Sideline is subdued and we aren't used to that. Briles gave us sideline activity and Grobe is the opposite. Players will have to make the mo happen on the field and that's where it should come from anyway and not the sidelines

We are very disappointed about a 40-13 game and 34(should be 35)-7 second half. This was easily worst game they've played in awhile and it was 40(should be 41)-13 vs a team being mentioned as possible new Big 12 member

D didn't seem to miss Reid too much, if any?

I'm not looking so negative at this unless they look listless vs Ok St

As Goldmine preaches on, this could end up being best team in Big 12 in what appears a down year for all Big 12s so far, save UT

Onward .......
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In reply to beta • 10:09p, 9/10/16
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Interesting TysonBU doesn't post during the games huh?
He's in the stands, not on the sideline.
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